I smurfed to show why smurfs always win (while being griefed)

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  • čas přidán 3. 06. 2024
  • I'm an 8K MMR Player who got a chance to play in an in-house league where the average mmr is between 2k to 5k, so I'm kind of legally smurfing there. This is an educational video and my thought process as to how I 1v9 as a carry.
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    Timestamps:
    00:00 Intro
    00:15 Early Itemization
    03:00 Laning Phase
    20:00 Mid-Game
    32:06 Late-Game
    #dota2 #carry #smurf #educational #immortal #2k #guide #paindota
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Komentáře • 115

  • @Fatma-gq4cf
    @Fatma-gq4cf Před 2 měsíci +47

    More educational smurf video like this please 🔥

  • @CardCaptor32584
    @CardCaptor32584 Před 2 měsíci +15

    That OD astral made me LOL. My coworkers were all looking at me weird. Damn that's funny.

  • @keensanitygaming8329
    @keensanitygaming8329 Před 2 měsíci +13

    im a follower for like around 3 months and your videos helped me a lot. not to brag but I managed to reach immortal rank 5673mmr from ancient 1 since then. the details that im ignoring before, i started to take note of each of them and started getting +mmr. Thank you.

  • @YugenDota
    @YugenDota Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the guide. I learned a lot from it. It's not every day you get to hear high MMR players explain their perspective on the game.

  • @Panflap
    @Panflap Před 2 měsíci +5

    Terrific video. Really nice way to tie together all your previous lessons in one awesome application. Keep em coming.

  • @PajamaSam81
    @PajamaSam81 Před 2 měsíci +1

    You break down why u do stuff really well keep up the videos

  • @gamdanyunizar7849
    @gamdanyunizar7849 Před 2 měsíci

    I'm curious if it's still the same if you play support rather than core? Is it possible to climb mmr to immortal by playing support?

  • @SupremeInfinity19
    @SupremeInfinity19 Před měsícem +1

    16:23 Literally made me laugh how He also didnt know why it didnt pull the creeps🤣

  • @dynatrixx2000
    @dynatrixx2000 Před 2 měsíci

    Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge, I appreciate you, subscribed!

  • @villarantejhunnar8761
    @villarantejhunnar8761 Před 2 měsíci

    I'm a huge fan.
    Love from ph bro! Keep it up please upload more educational content

  • @The01Arsenal
    @The01Arsenal Před 2 měsíci

    18min could have casted the shield. Or did yiu not cast it to get the attack in to chance stun and win?

  • @tuankhanhvu7836
    @tuankhanhvu7836 Před 2 měsíci

    Very detail video. Thank you!

  • @madpear
    @madpear Před 2 měsíci +3

    Herald through Archon (vast majority of players), the supports do such worse griefing: wandering off and let carry be right-clicked by enemy offlane duo, taking your CS, pulling at bad times or not at all, picking heroes like sniper as pos5, the list goes on. I can appreciate that folks like you and BSJ are at a high level, so you might call the slightest misplay a grief. But generally speaking these "griefed" videos demonstrate mid to upper tier support behavior for Archon and below. A typical grief for < 3500MMR presents a significantly harder challenge to overcome. What's worse for climbing in MMR, you're going to see one on your team nearly every other game. I really want to see a video showcasing strategies for a significantly worse grief or early game start for a team.

    • @brenorp95
      @brenorp95 Před 2 měsíci

      While I agree with you (currently struggling with low legend and I experience almost everything you mentioned regularly), this kind if video is still valuable for the insights on some of the decision making (like showing vs not showing and why, for example). Even if in lane is generally worse and in a gank situation your support probably won't have a force staff to save you because they want to build something greedy, in ranked their carry is likeky to have similar issues so the player that makes the least amount of mistakes should be getting more mmr over time

  • @user-li7kw3oq1q
    @user-li7kw3oq1q Před 2 měsíci

    how can I explain my feeling that this video is very very useful for me, it doesn't matter this is Smurf game but the detail of every single minute is valuable

  • @kanjii7641
    @kanjii7641 Před 2 měsíci +2

    bro what is your video setting

  • @jlfotoyvideo9030
    @jlfotoyvideo9030 Před 2 měsíci

    on the 16:23 the pull cancel itself. Why this happen? i have the same issue and i dont know what to do to avoid this

    • @sc9433
      @sc9433 Před 2 měsíci

      He "A" clicked his own creeps accidentally. "A" clicking ur own creeps drops aggros.

  • @t0mskyyyyy
    @t0mskyyyyy Před 2 měsíci +1

    I would suggest educational smurf videos in different bracket to know the differences in term of mechanic, itemization & decision making.

  • @biggooba6706
    @biggooba6706 Před 2 měsíci

    how does you lvl look like that?

  • @MC-nt7jz
    @MC-nt7jz Před 2 měsíci

    Can you do this as offlaner?

  • @nightcoreplanet8965
    @nightcoreplanet8965 Před 2 měsíci

    Can you create a content for mid laner?

  • @jjjjj506
    @jjjjj506 Před 2 měsíci

    czcams.com/video/yLFE5IZwpJA/video.html Is going back the right play when you can see enemies mid/top or should you have farmed the next wave and the ancients near Dire's wisdom rune (and pick it up at 14min)?

  • @TheHandsomeDevil223
    @TheHandsomeDevil223 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I love how this guy says he got griefed. He clearly has no idea what actual 3k position 5 supports do when you play void. Try playing a game where your position 5 feeds the offlane off respawn, never pulls, never blocks, and then come back and tell me how to win those kinds of games.

    • @abhisheklama1393
      @abhisheklama1393 Před 2 měsíci

      Furthermore, these guys play on 30 ping with 200+ FPS so the game is buttery smooth and responsive for them whilst most of us are playing on 100 ping with barely 90 FPS systems.
      If you could play on 30 ping with 200+ FPS you would automatically get good within a few months without any tips/help at all.

    • @BoblbzmwVomca
      @BoblbzmwVomca Před 2 měsíci

      Lol archons

    • @yasirelec
      @yasirelec Před měsícem

      Is that happening to you in EVERY game? Some games of course you’ll lose due to poor teammates but you can win 7/10 games if you improve your style and climb. Still there are going to be those 3 losses but you’ll climb.
      If it’s happening to you in 5/10 games, then you’re in your bracket and things won’t improve for you

  • @chhangtemawitea7185
    @chhangtemawitea7185 Před měsícem

    very helpful thankyou for making this video

  • @Ph3oh
    @Ph3oh Před měsícem

    That "important" at 10:54 was really telling. :))

  • @ayerat9174
    @ayerat9174 Před 2 měsíci

    Hi, can you please do morphling.. i been playing dota for 20 years, but i cant win using morph, i really like to learn how to play morph and what mind set should i have while playing it.

    • @bendanglcr17
      @bendanglcr17 Před 2 měsíci

      U must need talent to not learn a hero after playing for 20 years

  • @12MYCRYL17
    @12MYCRYL17 Před 2 měsíci +1

    educational and ethical smurf like the godgamer AdmiralBulldog

  • @ivoschottner5362
    @ivoschottner5362 Před 2 měsíci

    Could you also please make a video on how to carry the game with PL? PL is out of the meta and I feel it is not that ez to win as PL anymore... Please . Thx

  • @kdb5972
    @kdb5972 Před 2 měsíci +1

    how to aggro pull creeps without putting the mouse on the enemy or the portrait?

    • @t0mskyyyyy
      @t0mskyyyyy Před 2 měsíci

      Press A (attack command) to an enemy hero. But make sure the creeps have vision on you. Drag the creeps back to your range creeps.

    • @kdb5972
      @kdb5972 Před 2 měsíci

      @@t0mskyyyyy Look closely, 0.25 speed early game he is not clicking on enemy heroes.

    • @user-zj3dt2wh9q
      @user-zj3dt2wh9q Před 2 měsíci +1

      he watching replay not from a player view, so it's just his mouse, not void's

  • @ttextinction7273
    @ttextinction7273 Před 2 měsíci

    Faceless Void is one of the strongest late game heroes with double chronos. this hero can carry and turn most games around.

  • @alessioNY
    @alessioNY Před 2 měsíci

    Lol, I've been doing that. As a divine 5 pos 3, I can literally 1v5 the other team as bristleback, as long as there aren't too many hard counters. It's funny when my team flames me early on before I carry.

  • @hurryhurry9723
    @hurryhurry9723 Před 2 měsíci +1

    u didn't bought stick vs tiny mirana lineup

  • @MIGUELLLLLLLLLAAAAAA
    @MIGUELLLLLLLLLAAAAAA Před 2 měsíci +1

    Moral of the video is that you need to play like a smurf to barely win these games

  • @just_ralle7688
    @just_ralle7688 Před měsícem

    the amount of "I just play around my team" actually triggers me, when can you trust you're team to do anything below 5k mmr, the only thing I found helpful was the minions aggro strats the rest of the game was a cakewalk, didn't even see a griefer O.o

  • @mrockTROLLIN
    @mrockTROLLIN Před 2 měsíci

    Hold on -- can someone explain why he drops his band?

    • @kylek762
      @kylek762 Před 2 měsíci

      So that his Venge can bring it to him off her TP. Basically an instant courier since level 3 courier is very slow.

  • @rainbowpew
    @rainbowpew Před 2 měsíci

    More moreeee with all that carry tips

  • @HomuraCh
    @HomuraCh Před 2 měsíci

    try to win a griefing team where at minute one someone already fed 5 times because someone picked offlane PL and at minute 12 the player already fed 0-12 xD

  • @noelnemenjo1242
    @noelnemenjo1242 Před 2 měsíci

    100% pure useful content

  • @thenorthmen3148
    @thenorthmen3148 Před 2 měsíci

    Great video and I love your stuff.. but id love to see you Smurf in a lower bracket and not 5k and have it be a pub, not in house. Where nothing is controlled ha and you’re support 5 doesn’t do what he’s supposed to do at all. (No pulls, no range creep secure, no hard camp deward) legend bracket is so incredibly hard to come back from when you’re behind so hard. I think there’s a large gap in skill when it comes to 3k-5k. I feel more than half of my games I’m having to do a majority of the support stuff as I’m carry. Or I have to leave to jungle way earlier than I need to

  • @ghostwarrior4761
    @ghostwarrior4761 Před 2 měsíci

    Awesome skills you new one subscriber

  • @RefalaStas
    @RefalaStas Před 2 měsíci

    do the mid plz! (blood seeker if possible)

  • @karntkarunnvudthioey9707
    @karntkarunnvudthioey9707 Před 2 měsíci

    I think the difference is being able to overcome your own mental state.
    (After OD Astral for Fun make lose over 10k networth)
    But we have to control ourselves to carry the game forward.
    xd

  • @rhysgriffiths9675
    @rhysgriffiths9675 Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks for the video.
    Would love to see a video where you’re playing a real game, your teammates don’t know you’re a smurf, and you’re playing a support hero. I’ve seen BSJ do videos like these too, but when your teammates know you’re smurfing they are not going to grief, they’re going to play more coordinated, they’re going to pick good heroes (probably their best ones), they’re going to go out of their way to assist you and listen to your calls. So you’re smurfing, but you’re playing under ideal circumstances, which is not the typical griefers/weird hero picks/lack of coordination that people struggle most to deal with.

  • @iordanstefan1
    @iordanstefan1 Před 2 měsíci

    The tortelini guide :>

  • @mafioso4152
    @mafioso4152 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Dota become terrible place. I dont have my main account anymore i forgot everything idk how. So i opened new acc and started playin, yesterday i got banned till 2038… like cmon thats my only acc and i want to get rank and u ban me? Okay i umderstand that is smurfing but u accuse me that i am using third party program without one proof, thats so bad now i cant play dota and i know everytime i open new acc i will get banned… what to do?

  • @nomedeuusuario
    @nomedeuusuario Před 2 měsíci

    Me looking a guy SMURFING in 5k
    - im 3k....

  • @udatchi
    @udatchi Před 2 měsíci +1

    Bruh ur draft is insanely good and their draft is omega terrible thats a hard game to lose unless u actually get griefed

  • @abirjubayer6410
    @abirjubayer6410 Před 2 měsíci +1

    how u get 400 fps bro

    • @NhatNguyen-577
      @NhatNguyen-577 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Unlock fps using console. But anything above 150 is pretty much useless. Also it depends on your CPU/GPU as well.

    • @abirjubayer6410
      @abirjubayer6410 Před 2 měsíci

      i hv 180 hz monitor. early game i get 240 fps but after 20min or 30min it drps at 120 or lower, but my cpu and gpu is not using .how to fix it
      @@NhatNguyen-577

  • @bendixtrinity
    @bendixtrinity Před 2 měsíci +2

    am sorry but thats not griefing in low mmr. thats normal😂😂😂
    griefing in low mmr is the intentional feeding or denying farms and runes and it goes on for the whole game not one instance. SEA server btw😂

  • @randomhandle721
    @randomhandle721 Před 2 měsíci

    Well played.

  • @singa-el9952
    @singa-el9952 Před 2 měsíci

    dude doom was doing good

  • @abbas3662
    @abbas3662 Před měsícem

    Thats how i am gonna crono whole Two heros 😂

  • @mozinha
    @mozinha Před 2 měsíci +1

    Can you just play the video while explaining? I’ve been staring on same pixel in the first 2 mins

  • @AndreasKurz
    @AndreasKurz Před 2 měsíci

    The skill difference between servers must be HUUUGE... I west EU as soon as there is an invisible hero there is a good chance that at least one is carring dust / sentries in huge amounts. I am one of those people (especially as carry) and I am not that high. It is even pinged out that we carry dust around.

  • @PureMathGuy
    @PureMathGuy Před 2 měsíci

    M loving it !

  • @derbestimmer1148
    @derbestimmer1148 Před 2 měsíci

    Simply not true that creep aggro is not applied in low Elo. Actual low Elo players may not know how to do it. But thete are enough players in low Elo, that creep aggro the hell out of you.
    Can you do such an example when your lane opponents are also Smurfs and your Support is afk at the tower and occasionally feeds into the enemy landers?

  • @STOICedie1201
    @STOICedie1201 Před 2 měsíci

    World revolves around OD

  • @timothyc3602
    @timothyc3602 Před 18 dny

    500 fps??

  • @eveningswan4491
    @eveningswan4491 Před 2 měsíci

    This doesn't tell us anything. This is hardly smurfing mmr isn't that far from your normal rank. Do this in like a average 2k with 2 greifers

  • @HavaN5rus
    @HavaN5rus Před 2 měsíci

    If I really want to grief, there is no chance you win🤣

  • @shurhongukire4306
    @shurhongukire4306 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Please share game ID

  • @macratak
    @macratak Před 2 měsíci

    good content

  • @markoilic8375
    @markoilic8375 Před 2 měsíci +1

    that venge is smurf also, so it was 2 smurfs in 1 game, on top of that your whole team is playing well for that mmr. Im not saying that your are not playing great, butt man you are going to lose 30% games+ even as smurf coz rigged matchmaking.

    • @itbelowky4373
      @itbelowky4373 Před 2 měsíci

      so hes going to win 70% of his games? seems good to me

    • @markoilic8375
      @markoilic8375 Před 2 měsíci

      @@itbelowky4373 but not in higher ranks

  • @nuketurnal2
    @nuketurnal2 Před 2 měsíci

    Very informative. However, i dont agree that you ALWAYS win. This game could have been anyones game before that AM kill
    Subbed

  • @DannTeBg
    @DannTeBg Před 2 měsíci

    Sorry, but this wasnt griefing, you had amazing team.

  • @whcre-2776
    @whcre-2776 Před 2 měsíci

    if i smurf and my team is griefing(real griefing) i won't play the game lul idgaf about mmr when i enter my smurf

  • @dac19xx
    @dac19xx Před 2 měsíci +2

    Finally someone that i can listen to.. those BSJS MJS or whatever jenkins just make me punch the monitor.

    • @AzimsLives
      @AzimsLives Před 2 měsíci +3

      tell me you're a toxic player without telling me you're a toxic player

    • @dac19xx
      @dac19xx Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@AzimsLives tell me you are emotional lgbt member without telling me.

    • @AzimsLives
      @AzimsLives Před 2 měsíci

      @@dac19xx lol. where that came from? I have no idea

    • @dac19xx
      @dac19xx Před 2 měsíci

      @@AzimsLives Thanks for your guitar song man! u helped me to take a $h1t after 1 week!

    • @deadvedev3817
      @deadvedev3817 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@AzimsLiveshe destroyed u bro. You talking to a dota all chat god

  • @TheDuckSquash
    @TheDuckSquash Před 2 měsíci

    So you got a free lane versing a weak combo of tiny and mirana and snowballed so you called that "smurfs always win"

    • @ralphED93
      @ralphED93 Před 2 měsíci

      its a 42 min video... kinda pity you 😢😢😢

  • @atillafatihunver617
    @atillafatihunver617 Před 2 měsíci

    you call that a grief :SSDD

  • @aelx1645
    @aelx1645 Před 2 měsíci

    Drow next

  • @wiizardx
    @wiizardx Před 2 měsíci

    my only comment is bring your own dust.

  • @sodcio
    @sodcio Před 2 měsíci +1

    Smurfing is not good

  • @NewsforThought-English
    @NewsforThought-English Před 2 měsíci

    ok now show when you have no lane, for example vs a razor, and your team 4 man feeds while you wait for your chrono cd and never together when you do have it. thnx

  • @FreshBrothersCZ
    @FreshBrothersCZ Před 2 měsíci

    Sorry that i dont care about a game too much BUT HOW THE HELL YOU HAVE 400+ FPS????? xdd

  • @a1uca
    @a1uca Před 2 měsíci

    just look at the laning phase man, this is peak manipulation and logic that you can't do in league or any other moba and for that reason simply uncomparable.

  • @papasam5053
    @papasam5053 Před 8 dny

    Yeah, good luck smurfing as hard support. Dota does not recognise good in-game behaviour when you win your lane, provide excellent support, and so on. It kinda obligates me to take carry roles and basically carry the game.

  • @OvEn599
    @OvEn599 Před 2 měsíci

    Can't really relate with some of your team communication since some of your calls can not be done by chatwheel. In a real pub situation you're not gonna use Text/voice Chat. Unless ur a masochist 😂

  • @fernandonunesg
    @fernandonunesg Před 2 měsíci

    Clearly a 2k game

  • @vegetadragonbz7824
    @vegetadragonbz7824 Před 2 měsíci +1

    idk how u and the viewers see this as a 1 v 9 carry game.. okay let's start with the Lanning phase ... the enemy Mirana did a little close to no harass on u he started hitting u on min 3 and a half, which made this lane easier for u, support giving u tangos, and a support that saves u from tiny Mirana combo, and a support that makes stacks and communicate with u on the lane, I didn't even continue this video but at the very first couple of minutes i figured out that u don't have any clue of what 1 v 9 means, and yea i almost forgot OD came and ganked tiny, try to have a REAL griefers, support not pulling, not giving tangos, mid afk farming, pos 4 attacking the hell out of u, then win and type 1 v 9
    and i'm pretty sure u gonna delete my comment
    😂😂😂😂

    • @SatomLu
      @SatomLu Před 2 měsíci +1

      also he said the storm is 10k hahaha with 9 deaths at 30 min vs a 300 ping 7k OD :D maybe he meant behaviour score

    • @vegetadragonbz7824
      @vegetadragonbz7824 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@SatomLu hahaha i liked the behaviour score thing hahahaha, the problem is i see no comments but us that realized that, is it that we are the only smart ppl here or what hahaha

    • @vegetadragonbz7824
      @vegetadragonbz7824 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Mike-wu7ie yea bro he didn't give credict to anyone, and no one said anything to him but us, but in other hand like this player czcams.com/video/0oTqTY2ELUQ/video.htmlsi=u_7ocjESMXYo5wsL ... he gave alot of credit to his support dazzle in the video and didnt say 1 v 9 at all

  • @lilvegee
    @lilvegee Před 2 měsíci

    bros playing faceless void ofc he can win solo

  • @zoaiceberg2871
    @zoaiceberg2871 Před měsícem

    400+ fps ... i will reach immortal within a year 😂😂😂

  • @spongebob93190
    @spongebob93190 Před 2 měsíci

    Bro stop lying, smurf and take P5 you will not win all games. I'm 8k+ & supporting low player = non capacity to control the game.

  • @valentines92
    @valentines92 Před 2 měsíci

  • @user-th5vl6ef1l
    @user-th5vl6ef1l Před 2 měsíci

    Void with madness what a noob. haha was jk Nice video

  • @athenaallen6119
    @athenaallen6119 Před 2 měsíci

    now try this with a griefing support in your lane who ruins the pull and doesnt even do what this VS does. i can guarantee you, youd probably be pulling a hair by now. Smurfing at 5k is different than doing it in the 2-3k bracket. you get punished way more for players who straight up have no idea what they are doing.
    your videos work in concept and execution but you fail to take into consideration for the amount of toxic players you get, especially in SEA servers and at the 2-4k bracket. your average VS wont stun nor right click on enemy when they contest you for range creeps. your agro wont work if your VS chooses to leave your lane early on.
    What you described in this video is probably 1/5 of the 2-4k bracket games where players are decent. but the other 4/5 games.... no chance you're getting a SP like this VS to even win your lane

  • @SmolderingSilver
    @SmolderingSilver Před 2 měsíci

    record and nariate these live

  • @vegetadragonbz7824
    @vegetadragonbz7824 Před 2 měsíci

    As a support player I love carries like this one in this video, czcams.com/video/0oTqTY2ELUQ/video.htmlsi=u_7ocjESMXYo5wsL . not like this delusional Void carry players that think that they are everything in the game lol

  • @shurhongukire4306
    @shurhongukire4306 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Nice information