Making a Highland Longbow (and a wee bit of history)

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  • čas přidán 27. 12. 2018
  • Archery was a big part of the Highland warrior culture and bows were used in the Highlands up to the 1690's. Now, I'm a beginner to bow making, but in this video I try to make a longbow from the materials that might have been available to someone in the 17th century Scottish Highlands.
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Komentáře • 585

  • @FireCreekForge
    @FireCreekForge Před 5 lety +324

    I am liking the historic bent of the channel. Everybody does "bushcraft" videos, but the history and getting and idea of some ancestral connection / history is cool.

  • @MrTacklebury
    @MrTacklebury Před 5 lety +84

    For future projects, please for your own sake, use a mask when working with deer antler. I have a close friend who was making knife scales from antler and didn't use any protection. It can cause a major issue in the lungs and as he found out, even occasional use can cause the damage. He's only got one lung now and it's a transplanted lung. He has nearly died many times, so anyone working with antler, do it in a well ventilated area and use at least a paper mask to keep the dust out of your airway. Same goes for napping flint if you try that.

    • @ShadeSlayer1911
      @ShadeSlayer1911 Před 2 lety +2

      Oh jeez, thanks for the warning.

    • @codymarkley8372
      @codymarkley8372 Před 2 lety +1

      Why what did it do to his lung

    • @MrTacklebury
      @MrTacklebury Před 2 lety +5

      @@codymarkley8372 fibrotic lung disease which also leads to mesothelioma cancer

    • @garymccallum667
      @garymccallum667 Před rokem +2

      Wow..
      I wish I'd heard that when I was a wee boy as I used to go hunting for old antlers and either selling them for pennies or drilling & sanding them down for specific purposes
      Usually letter openers & handle grips

    • @christianbowyer7812
      @christianbowyer7812 Před rokem +1

      Not only Antler dust isn’t healthy - yew wood is toxic, too.
      So good ventilation and if not possible, a pretty FFP2 mask ist advised.
      Nonetheless your successful attempt to make a longbow out of this knotty stave shows quite a bit of craftsmanship. Congratulations! Also the bits of historic research you pass on is quite interesting. Thank you very much - by the way a nice remembrance of of a vacation my wife and I had in the highlands in 2006 😉

  • @KrawllUnchained
    @KrawllUnchained Před 5 lety +115

    beginner to making bows maybe .... but that bow shoots real straight and real fast so regardless of the mistakes you may or may not have made and regardless of the criticism you may get from any bow making experts out there, that bow works and it's powerful so you still get a lot of credit for being the one to make it :-D

  • @michaelharris2640
    @michaelharris2640 Před 4 lety +8

    who else is here to learn the process so you too can honour your ancestors? I am going to use mine for sport, highland games, hunting and fishing #ScottishPride
    For @Fandabi Dozi you have done a wonderful job on your weapon. Your family and ancestors are proud for keeping our culture alive.

  • @magicdaveable
    @magicdaveable Před 5 lety +71

    I started building bows in the early 1950's as a youngster. It took me about 10 attempts to get one that gave me a modicum of satisfaction.

  • @screamingnighthog7155
    @screamingnighthog7155 Před 5 lety +29

    As a individual with both Scottish and Native American ancestry this video on longbow making appealed to me on two levels. You do a good job of making history come alive.

    • @JoeyGee1000
      @JoeyGee1000 Před 5 lety +9

      European peoples had similar lifestyles to those of American Indians, it was just much farther back in the past.

    • @mahaliathompson3639
      @mahaliathompson3639 Před 2 lety +1

      @@AudioJeep it’s interesting to hear you feel this way towards native culture. I have ancestry to both Scotland and Native American, but I only grew up exposed to the Native American side. Hearing you talk about native culture, I could say all the same things about what im learning in Scottish culture, at least how cool I think it all is, and often take growing up learning native ways for granted.
      Hope this helps you appreciate your Scottish heritage more

    • @tonystone3397
      @tonystone3397 Před rokem

      Och aye the noo Jimmy!

  • @jessicaservello6833
    @jessicaservello6833 Před 5 lety +11

    Absolutely loving these historical videos. Side note: I could listen to you talk all day everyday, I absolutely love your accent.

  • @gordonlawrence4749
    @gordonlawrence4749 Před 4 lety +69

    Jack Churchill was still using a longbow in WWII so if you count that then the Scottish longbow was still in use to 1945.

    • @harkonen1000000
      @harkonen1000000 Před 4 lety +2

      He was captured in 1944, and he got too late to the Pacific theater to do anything there.

    • @skeltonslay8er781
      @skeltonslay8er781 Před 4 lety

      He also used a long sword if I’m not mistaken

    • @ignacejespers8201
      @ignacejespers8201 Před 4 lety +4

      @@skeltonslay8er781 broadsword

    • @sethbennett617
      @sethbennett617 Před 4 lety +6

      He was from shrilanka, his parents were english. He only played the bagpipes because of the military traditions. in shrilanka. His longbow was english, as are almost all longbows. The "scottish" longbow only exists because the scots knicked it from the english.

    • @Dante2099demon
      @Dante2099demon Před 3 lety +1

      I think he use a English long bow aka a warbow

  • @america8706
    @america8706 Před 5 lety +5

    Now I want an authentic Scottish RPG in the vein of KCD. Man that would potentially be really cool.

  • @kaibrinkley6
    @kaibrinkley6 Před 4 lety +6

    I love how much history you include in your videos (I'm a major history buff). I really want to visit Scotland and get more hands-on research.

  • @anonymousthesneaky220
    @anonymousthesneaky220 Před 16 dny +1

    In the Americas bows were sometimes sealed with birch tar, which leaves a really pretty finish.

  • @NotAnAngryLesbian
    @NotAnAngryLesbian Před 5 lety +3

    I made a NA bow. I really like making things. That bow, hands down, was the physically hardest thing I have ever crafted. The tools used were remarkably simple which I felt was encouraging because anyone with access to a junk store could gather the needed supplies minus the wood and cord.
    After bow making, a friend let me use his atlatl. I really preferred it to my bow. I could throw very accurately and it it simply made me feel like a kid again. Now making the arrows....thats another endeavor.

  • @Tesshier
    @Tesshier Před 5 lety +42

    Running all the way from so far.. I thought you'll just say : It's... (cue the Flying Circus intro)

    • @eldorados_lost_searcher
      @eldorados_lost_searcher Před 3 lety +1

      He'd have to be out of breath for that.

    • @OldNavajoTricks
      @OldNavajoTricks Před 2 lety +1

      "And now for something completely different..."
      Fits his videos perfectly as an intro lol.

  • @WickedKingLycoan
    @WickedKingLycoan Před 4 lety +5

    You did a damned fine job! Keep doing these videos, and keep working your hand at perfecting the bow! I have a feeling that you will perfect it!

  • @Gillian1746
    @Gillian1746 Před 5 lety +5

    Amazed at how fast the fleche actually travells once fired. Well done. Very interesting and exciting to watch you make the long bow.

  • @andydavidson4108
    @andydavidson4108 Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks for the video and the history. Like the kilt. Went out last Friday with a piper friend (where we live in Mt. Horeb, WI) and had a Wee deoch n doris of Glenlivet. Both parents were born in Scotland and still remember my dad singing the old songs.

  • @Stephenrsm7600
    @Stephenrsm7600 Před 5 lety +26

    I applaude your effort in making a long bow!!! Great job at finding and explaining the history of Scotish long bow use!!! Thank you SO very much for your education!!!!

  • @MasterMichelleFL
    @MasterMichelleFL Před 5 lety +3

    I KNOW it's not the same, but I'm learning Irish (Gaeilge), and I also like Jas. Townsend and Son (American frontier historian and reliving history guru).
    These videos are like the Townsend's...Brilliant, and combine cool cultural history, skills and life. Except this stuff pre dates American settlers skills.
    It's fun to realize where American skills came from.
    ALL over. 💚
    I adore your channel.
    Thanks!💚

  • @hfrendal5374
    @hfrendal5374 Před 5 lety +2

    I am an archer and I have never made my own bow, but I know a small things about it anyway. Blood was often used on the bows as a coating, I think ötzi had a bow covered in blood and test shows its not a bad options. Your option is probably as good as that for all I know. By the looks of the arrow impacts your bow seems to shoot straight and the arrows are well made. The crack you discovered and tried to fix will have made this your every day bow since it will eventually break, back then someone would start up making a perfect one pretty fast. Since this is your second bow and you did not have a teacher I think you did really good.

  • @scottishcanaltrash7067
    @scottishcanaltrash7067 Před 5 lety +7

    In a Jacobite society myself, and just loving your bow. Also have spent the night wrapped in my plaid on Culloden moor. Keep up your excellent informative work

    • @likejohnnyandjune2024
      @likejohnnyandjune2024 Před 4 lety +1

      American here. So are you a Jacobite or a Jacobite historian? It's be cool to think the Jacobites are still an active group

    • @scottishcanaltrash7067
      @scottishcanaltrash7067 Před 4 lety

      @@likejohnnyandjune2024 In a Jacobite society which does commemorative events . We used to do battle exhibition but it became too tied up in red tape etc.

    • @bencameron539
      @bencameron539 Před 3 lety

      @@scottishcanaltrash7067 how dae yi join wan ae them sounds class

  • @haroldellis9721
    @haroldellis9721 Před 5 lety +6

    Props for getting stuck in. How many years have I had the same book, and talked of making a bow? I rather not say.

  • @jackdorsey4734
    @jackdorsey4734 Před 3 lety

    With the exception of your torch I like that you did most of the work by hand

  • @feralgrandad4429
    @feralgrandad4429 Před 4 lety +2

    Tom, im an Archer as well as a "Bushcrafter" that is an awesome video! Top, top job. I also think that the bow stayed popular was because (sometimes) the ammunition was reusable and of course it was quite. Which im sure a Highland raider would appreciate. Great upload, one of my favourites. Thanks for sharing :-)

  • @Detrucci
    @Detrucci Před 5 lety +4

    This looks like so much fun, I have always loved archers and bows and your one shoots so fast!

  • @stellarguymk
    @stellarguymk Před 5 lety +47

    Dude! Idk if you can tell, but your scottish accent is very mild. I'm from the US, North Carolina, most of us here are descendants of Scottish people, at least where I live. It's crazy, because some of the words you say, I can hear a North Carolina/Appalachian accent in your voice. I enjoy your videos dude!

    • @jasonkraus2831
      @jasonkraus2831 Před 5 lety +10

      That's where the southern accent comes from! It's a rhotic English/Scottish accent that eventually turned into what you hear now. The proper/posh English accent is typically non-rhotic and didn't start coming to the fore until the mid 1700's. There's some fascinating stuff out there about the connection between the Britain, immigration, and the US's Southern accents.

    • @phdotsco
      @phdotsco Před 5 lety +6

      His accents extremely common for anyone living in central Scotland.

    • @MasterMichelleFL
      @MasterMichelleFL Před 5 lety +1

      I noticed that first when watching Diane Jennings (an awesomely sweet and fun Irish CZcamsr, if you don't know...).
      I completely understand what you mean!
      There are lots of Irish, in my research of family lineage and the areas my ancestors settled (Cades Cove, for one...Shady Grove, Florida for another). I heard vocal attributes of the Irish folks I hear, and my family's "accent".💚🇺🇸

    • @stellarguymk
      @stellarguymk Před 5 lety +4

      @@MasterMichelleFL oh I love Cades Cove! My family used to take trips to Eastern Tennessee all the time. That's where you're talking about right?
      I loved the slow meandering drive through the park and all the nature and animals we got to see. And then stopping off at those old cabins and houses and churches. Such good memories 😊

    • @MasterMichelleFL
      @MasterMichelleFL Před 5 lety +4

      @@stellarguymk YES! I am a direct descendant of the Olivers... John and Lucretia, and others in the area. They were the first white settlers, had to leave when the government stole all the land, sent native people and friendly settlers off the land they worked so hard to survive, on...😥
      You saw their cabin, and others, probably. ❤
      The descriptions make it sound like they left voluntarily. They didn't, according to family history.

  • @merricevans1341
    @merricevans1341 Před 2 lety

    I’m in North America of Chickasaw-Choctaw and Henry clan Scottish… I have spent a lot of my life learning the “old ways” but have no exposure to the indigenous knowledge of my European ancestors
    This is really changing my life

  • @iainooooo
    @iainooooo Před 5 lety +5

    Fantastic video! Facinating to see how the highlanders lived and what they used in the harsh terrain. Amazing power and strengh in that bow! Very good shooting.

  • @lonniecrook1684
    @lonniecrook1684 Před 4 lety +1

    Great video and great job on your first bow! Keep up the good work! Loved the history lesson!

  • @andrewdesroches8669
    @andrewdesroches8669 Před 3 lety

    For an amateur bowyer from western canada where we have no yew or oak that stave looks beautiful. Great video.

  • @jamescooper2618
    @jamescooper2618 Před 5 lety +3

    Great video! You know, if you're not making any mistakes, you're not getting anything done! Well done making the bow. I especially liked the view of the arrows coming at the camera. That was a good idea!

  • @cameronhall4593
    @cameronhall4593 Před 5 lety +1

    Your videos make me so proud of our Scottish heritage

  • @williammccaslin8527
    @williammccaslin8527 Před 5 lety +4

    It looks like the first time out you already have a winner, good job lad.

  • @congdaniel7796
    @congdaniel7796 Před 4 lety +1

    I like your bow so much! Greeting from Vietnam.

  • @Labroidas
    @Labroidas Před rokem +2

    Fun fact: the european yew, once a very common tree, has become extremely rare in the wild. The reason for that is that they were systematically cut down and exported to England for making English long bows. By 1568 there was according to Duke Albrecht no "yew worth cutting down anymore" in all of Bavaria. It's extremely rare that you will come across a true european yew (other species of yew are being grown in cities) by chance in the wild. That's a shame, because yew trees are extremely slow-growing and long-lived, and could potentially live up to 2000 years, though no tree of that age has survived to our knowledge. So to anybody from Europe who wants to make longbows themselves: please consider making your bow out of ash or oak wood, or use imported wood from other yew species♥don't go into the forest and cut down a yew tree.

  • @Merlin1
    @Merlin1 Před 4 lety

    That bow is of such pure beauty that it literally touches me.

  • @archONtour
    @archONtour Před 2 lety

    Sympathic guy. Easy to watch and highly appreciated thanks

  • @jasonconnor576
    @jasonconnor576 Před 3 lety

    Outstanding! I appreciate how you are not afraid to dive into a project, and I like the historical aspect of your videos.

  • @turtlewolfpack6061
    @turtlewolfpack6061 Před 5 lety +3

    Nicely done! The longbow in one form or another is a pretty useful and simple tool.

  • @foxglove8836
    @foxglove8836 Před 5 lety +1

    Got some power :-) Good for your second time making one, I used to have a long bow just loved it.

  • @AbbieBarnesWILD
    @AbbieBarnesWILD Před 5 lety

    This is brilliant. Educational. Inspiring. Skilful. Love your passion!

  • @ericruss4189
    @ericruss4189 Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks for the video. Keep the Highlander videos coming.

  • @cdbc4023
    @cdbc4023 Před 5 lety +1

    Super Vid. Go back a wee bit to Bannockburn 1314. Scottish archers confounded the English by using triangular formations on the flanks of the Scots to drive the English into the centre of the Scottish formation. The fabled Shiltron of the Scots. Edward the 3rd (son of the defeated Edward the 2nd - English King at Bannockburn) was so impressed (and very, very, angry) he adopted and improved the tactics of the Scots. Have you heard of Crecy? Humm! How History Flows!Very Much looking forward to all of your videos. Thanks.

  • @terrybtk1
    @terrybtk1 Před 5 lety +1

    This was really well done. Thanks for sharing.

  • @WiltshireMan
    @WiltshireMan Před 5 lety

    Very enjoyable watch. Thanks.
    Sandy

  • @peterlawrence3152
    @peterlawrence3152 Před 3 lety

    Brilliant work with the bow.

  • @alistairdunlop9174
    @alistairdunlop9174 Před 5 lety +4

    Great job! Looks brilliant. I'm really enjoying this channel.

  • @michael.bombadil9984
    @michael.bombadil9984 Před 4 lety

    Short and sweet, well done.

  • @DamonHowattHunter
    @DamonHowattHunter Před 5 lety

    That bow has an impressive amount of cast to it. Very nicely done!

  • @yarinya13
    @yarinya13 Před 5 lety +2

    This is great and really informative. Thanks for sharing it!

  • @sawahtb
    @sawahtb Před 5 lety

    I enjoy your amateur approach and enthusiasm. You are trying to learn and experiment and aren't afraid to risk the consequences.

  • @paulevans4334
    @paulevans4334 Před 4 lety

    Excellent job.

  • @hydroxide5507
    @hydroxide5507 Před 5 lety +3

    Very cool! I really like the antler knock

  • @omid-nasi
    @omid-nasi Před 5 lety +3

    Just wanted to say much respect to your culture and you for sharing it with us, I appreciate learning more about it. You deserve more subscribes and likes. Great job! Keep it up please. :)

  • @masonmason22
    @masonmason22 Před 5 lety

    Nice video. Love the scenery outdoors, too.

  • @bobdoodle6527
    @bobdoodle6527 Před 5 lety

    Beautiful bow and impressive bow, good job!

  • @kanwaljheinga4739
    @kanwaljheinga4739 Před 5 lety

    Well done. Great job

  • @snorkherder
    @snorkherder Před 5 lety +1

    Excellent work on the Bow, Impressive for a first build. Thanks for sharing :) ATB.

  • @nm-ge4tb
    @nm-ge4tb Před 5 lety +1

    👍The channel has grown , an it is fresh , always good ideas , brilliant👍

  • @MissMarinaCapri
    @MissMarinaCapri Před 5 lety

    I started using a bow as a child. I found your bow making video interesting and engaging.
    Thanks for sharing

  • @lukebell9945
    @lukebell9945 Před 4 lety

    I've been a bowyer for about a year. My first bow was made of PVC and fiber glass rods so it was easy. It still sucked real bad. For this being your second attempt I gotta give you props because this bow kicks ass. Sent those arrows fast and straight. Good job man

  • @gregkral4467
    @gregkral4467 Před 5 lety

    Well done, that bow is working great.

  • @G60J60F80
    @G60J60F80 Před 5 lety

    You have fantastic aim!

  • @pdavis7537
    @pdavis7537 Před 5 lety

    Very well done for a first ever bow! You are a good shot with it as well!

    • @FandabiDozi
      @FandabiDozi  Před 5 lety

      Thanks buddy! I have made quick bows lots of times before but this was the first "proper" one. Where I took the time to season the wood etc. :)

  • @chrisjensen8369
    @chrisjensen8369 Před 5 lety

    I enjoy your channel. It's much more personable than just reading a book. And, you put a lot of enthusiastic energy into your presentations. I chuckled when I noticed you use a Black & Decker Workmate. It looks like a twin to the one I've used for over 40 years, even to the moveable orange stops.

  • @arcana830
    @arcana830 Před 5 lety

    Awesome work.

  • @handiman5
    @handiman5 Před 5 lety +4

    Is there no end to your talent? I really enjoy learning from your videos. Great job, keep up the good work.

  • @Maxtcc
    @Maxtcc Před 5 lety

    Well done I appreciate your efforts. Thank you

  • @nightwolf1592
    @nightwolf1592 Před 5 lety

    Yew is a beautiful wood. Well done, fully working and functional bow. Great enthusiasm and energy in your presentation. Great action shots of arrows flying too !

  • @steveqhanson6835
    @steveqhanson6835 Před 5 lety

    Excellent bow! thanks for sharing this

  • @brucemcnally3924
    @brucemcnally3924 Před 5 lety

    I love your video! That is a serious bow you made, you've inspired me to make one. Thank you.

  • @thewildpanda6836
    @thewildpanda6836 Před 5 lety

    I love Scotland and I love bows
    I love this video

  • @murkydepths181
    @murkydepths181 Před 4 lety

    Love what this guy does ..

  • @skirkpatrick7280
    @skirkpatrick7280 Před 5 lety +1

    Another Great video. Keep them coming please.

  • @francesbehr8082
    @francesbehr8082 Před 4 lety

    Still made it really well, and I liked the information.

  • @LonnieD-jq9rt
    @LonnieD-jq9rt Před 4 lety

    I actually just found your channel yesterday while sitting in my hospital room. Your videos are awesome I love this kind of content.

  • @eetadakimasu
    @eetadakimasu Před 5 lety

    That's fantastic! Great job!

  • @auldashy
    @auldashy Před 5 lety

    Awesome job!

  • @alexwat5433
    @alexwat5433 Před 5 lety

    It looks pretty nice!

  • @Gee-Man-Adventures
    @Gee-Man-Adventures Před 5 lety +3

    Well done Tom, it's not easy to make a decent bow from native yew. You did yourself proud there. Love the channel. Keep it up.

  • @irishcoffee6894
    @irishcoffee6894 Před 5 lety

    Well done.
    It looks amazing.
    Best of luck with it

  • @IsaacNewton1966
    @IsaacNewton1966 Před 4 lety

    Beautiful!

  • @Musketman84th
    @Musketman84th Před 5 lety +1

    Very cool...cheers from New Scotland 👍 never really even thought about bows in Scotland.

  • @sapperinitiative4773
    @sapperinitiative4773 Před 5 lety

    Well done. Art at its best.

  • @kathmandu1575
    @kathmandu1575 Před rokem

    Great work!

  • @mbsnmisc
    @mbsnmisc Před 5 lety

    Great job.

  • @slingshotwarrrior8105
    @slingshotwarrrior8105 Před 5 lety

    Fine craftsmanship bro!

  • @thearchersparadox3292
    @thearchersparadox3292 Před 5 lety +1

    Really enjoyed watching this, well done.

  • @jacobdad2742
    @jacobdad2742 Před 5 lety

    Beautiful bow and great video. 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @tsavage4185
    @tsavage4185 Před 5 lety

    Great video. I really enjoyed the way you presented the history of the longbow in both Scotland and England. The process in th bow making was very well done and interesting. Cheers

  • @thechosenonesk
    @thechosenonesk Před 5 lety

    Looks good, shoots well, good work!

  • @levisweet979
    @levisweet979 Před 2 lety

    You can see the energy in you placed arrows, that will take large game or people. Way better than my first bows

  • @kalikopa
    @kalikopa Před 5 lety +3

    Sweet second bow!

  • @davidhussell8581
    @davidhussell8581 Před 5 lety

    You've made a very useful and good bow, first time too - well done !
    I used to shoot in English longbows, up to 80 llbs force. Now as I'm much older, I shoot Nottingham Forest made, laminated American style flat bows which give very good accurate shots and flat trajectories for very low poundages. Simple, bare bow archery is great fun and pretty cheap to do.

  • @bulow453
    @bulow453 Před 5 lety

    Pretty good looking bow.

  • @paulbernard2647
    @paulbernard2647 Před 5 lety +3

    Wow! You could really put someone’s eye out with that! Good stuff! 😉👍

    • @MasterMichelleFL
      @MasterMichelleFL Před 5 lety

      LMAO
      American joke?

    • @MasterMichelleFL
      @MasterMichelleFL Před 4 lety

      @None of Yourbusiness oooh...LMAO
      I missed that reference, thanks!
      BB guns are dangerous!!!🤣🤣🤣💚

  • @aquamarine9568
    @aquamarine9568 Před 5 lety

    Gorgeous and wow!

  • @francisreidjr3788
    @francisreidjr3788 Před 5 lety

    Great videos, nice use for the old fishbox!

  • @williamjhunter5714
    @williamjhunter5714 Před 2 lety

    Real nice bow and video. I made the Yew bows for Hunterston Castle in West Kilbride, Scotland. A #120 war bow, #65 long bow and #35 target bow.

  • @charlesdriggers199
    @charlesdriggers199 Před 4 lety

    For your first bow, you did excellent.

  • @Taitg1
    @Taitg1 Před 4 lety

    Very cool mate. Inspiring work...