Highland TARGE (Shield)- History, How it Was Made, Combat and Battlefield Application
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Very nice video, thank you for making It.
Hi, Metatron was just watching a vid of yours earlier today. Good taste in CZcamsrs, I see you everywhere in comments sections.
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_Using Whisky barrel lids to make a shield must be the most Scottish thing i ever heard..._
A lot of whiskey must be drained before the mass production of Targes. Not a problem for Scottish warriors lol
The smell would last for a loooong time.
Thats encouragement !
Great video, informative and interesting. fascinating to see how shields continued to be used widely after the medieval period.
Hey Sir Jason, big fan
Now it makes perfect sense of why shooting targets are flat and round. It probably started with someone using an old shield as target practice
They are indeed directly linked, yes, though perhaps not quite that blatantly
Probably not. A circle has an exact radius from center, so it didnt forgive you for near misses when you'd hit a corner instead of the center. You need to be consistent when training for archery, so no cheats are allowed
Someone buy targes from this guy. He has beautiful work and desperately needs a new camera
Another awesome episode. I ve done martial arts for most of my life and am so glad to see historical European martial arts start to gain more in popularity and to see historical context with it makes it even better. There needs to be more channels like yours sir.
Yeeeees, more sword brothers!
Rob Roy MacGregor, His life and times by WH Murray, an historically accurate account of Highlander life in 1700's Scotland.
MacGregor is one of my family names on moms side, I better check that out! Thanks
@@twolilfishies I got my copy, used but good condition, off ebay for under a fiver, its an excellent and very interesting read.
hahaha i just looked up so much and had to laugh, as i dated a campbell 😆 clan enemies . my greatgreat pops r screaming from the graves
@@twolilfishies if you want to learn more about the MacGregor history, search for "the clan Gregor society."
Agreed. Outstanding book.
Amazingly similar to Plains Native American sheilds, usually made from bison hump rawhide and shrunk using heat and steam. These are reputed to have stopped bullets as well as arrows and spears.
Hi Tom great stuff as always. Something you alluded to is how the targe might date back to as early as the medieval period. The origin of the type of targe you show in this video is something I've tried to research for many years, and from what I can see the evidence for this type of targe only goes back to the 16th century. Now lots of people will cite a couple of 15th century laws which state that those who cannot shoot a bow should equip themselves with an axe and a targe of leather or of board. When people nowadays see the word targe they instantly think of the kind of shield you show, but in the medieval period targe was just a synonym for shield and could mean anything from a buckler to a pavise. We don't know what kind of shield was meant by these 15th century laws, but the fact that they were made out of leather or board (presumably plain timber) makes it unlikely that they were anything like that lovely piece which Alba Targes made for you. Also strangely there is some evidence to suggest that the axes to be paired with these targes were of the large two handed veriety, though how this worked is a mystery to me.
I've heard folk stories about warriors of the Fyne using the tartans of slain enemies or a scrap of a uniform jacket taken of dead soldiers to line the inside of their targe to show their martial prowess.
Videos like this are why I love CZcams.
As an American, when cattle rustling is mentioned, sixgun wielding desperados in Stetson hats astride galloping steeds come to mind. Now I'll have to remember that broadsword and targe toting grimfaced Scotsmen were doing their own version long before.
Not a coincidence that most cowboys in the south of the USA are of Scottish ancestry I'll wager.
It seems that the Scots and Irish immigrants sought out the wilder areas to settle. The Appalachians during the late colonial through the infancy of the United States periods was where a large number initially settled (through a good many Germans in for good measure) here in the South. It would be natural to assume that some would seek the freedom of the newer western territories as they were opened up during the 1840's after the Mexican American war. My mother's family hails from the North Georgia portion of the Appalachians and are of Scottish and German decent. They are fiercely independent minded (some would say stubborn) folk and I'm sure that comes from the Scottish blood in their veins.
Hey Greg, cattle raiding is a "classic" in world history. In Europe the ancient Greeks did it as well as the Celts, the Massai in East Africa, the Zulu in South Africa, I bet. In the Middle East people have been stealing each others livestock since livestock was invented, daughters too ocasionally.
Matt 'context' Eastern might have a rival . . . ;-)
Came looking how to make a targe, found an entire awesome channel.
I think you might be in the market for a pack goat soon with all your gear. I love the series, looking forward to what you do next.
Interlacing information, visiual examples, and action makes your work educational as well as fun to watch. I never realized the detail that went into the weaponry of, basically, the poorest of the population, who had to defend their immediate lands. This video is fantastic, or should I say it's fanbadi dozi!
Targe vs. Scottish midges: I'm betting on the midges.
What do the Midges eat when they can't get Highlanders?
Got a good laugh outta me mate
them two ladies in hijabs with swords look pretty mean too ;)
Scottish midges are a bit like a Chinese finger trap. It shows that no matter how much force you have, sometimes you must outsmart your opponent rather than fight it
Always bet on the lowly midge...I've see grown men with tears in their eyes because of them.
AND,they never got the fish !
Here because I’m about to make my first targe! We haven’t had anyone make a new one in our group in years now.
Since watching this when it was first uploaded, I've finally been able to order a paperback version of school of the moon, for its original price, so very happy about that! Also plan to purchase an Irish targe sometime in the future. Keep it up!
Great video. Love the historical educational aspect as you present it. Have you ever thought about doing some segments on the Scottish and picti? Your presentation in costume rather than as only a narrator makes it much more lively.
Thanks.
Absolutely love learning more about my ancestors history with you, you're a legend. Stay safe my man.
Watching this really made me want to write a script for a historical piece on the highland clans of the 18th Century, there’s so Much potential (I’m an aspiring filmmaker, going to film school this year)
Shields are underrated and overlooked.
Against knife attacks and stones during riots. Yeah, I like the light round ones in police use
"As in something to be aimed at" - wow. You deliver historical insights with such concision. That's a whole history of the dynamics between two peoples - target. Thank you
I've made one of these myself to use in HEMA for targe and baskethilt (at Stoccata). Did a 50cm diameter to match the one in the Met Musuem.
Fancy seeing you here ;) I'd love to see that sometime
Your videos are always educational and well done. I appreciate the care you put in to them and any information you can pass on, regardless of the time period from which it's based. I look forward to your next installment. Keep up the good work.
Halò Tom! Tapadh leat so much for your videos, is toil leam iad!
I also really appreciate that you often involve the Gàidhlig words for the things that you show :)
Given the recent news about the risk of Gàidhlig going extinct in the next 10 years, I would love to see you use even more of the native language as I think it is important to shine a light on it wherever we can and encourage others to use the Gàidhlig words as much as possible!
Whether you do or don't add more Scottish Gaelic into your videos, keep doing what you are doing, and I will keep watching!
Very interesting video! Looking forward for the follow up! Far to less attention is payed to traveling/marching was one with weapons and other gear. The combat is interesting off course, both from the individual perspective of soldiers/warriors aswell as on a tactical and strategic level. However actual combat was a fairly small part of a war compared to the time spent on the march or in encampments.
Honestly that was the best youtube video I've watched in a year. Thank you bro for making banging content
This is such a well done professional video, im super impressed at the quality of this channel. Enjoyed it thoroughly. It was only after the video ended that i realized i just spent 16 minutes watching a video about highland targes
Great presentation Tom. You might want to think about editing your highlander videos into a presentation for schools history lessons.
Thanks mate. Always a joy to watch. God bless you
Thank you so much Dozi. Keep straightforward!
Awesome mate, really enjoy learning about your passion and having Scottish blood myself it's really cool learning about my ancestors and their way of life. Keep it up, cheers from Australia
Thank you for being so informative. Your channel has been so helpful in my research, very much appreciated.
Love watching your videos. I am learning about some of my ancestors.
Good stuff Tom, thanks. Collaborations really add value and interest to your channel and take nothing away. More please.
SWEET! I was looking forward to this video!
Very informative.
I've only ever seen the front face of Prince Charlie's targe in the National museum, so it was really interesting to see the rear and how they are constructed.
Keep up the good work!
You may be the only surviving Targe humorist. Well done sir.
This was wonderfully informative, and great to learn more about the targe and some historical accurate information about👍
Great video bro! One of my favourite channels on CZcams.
Thanks for that - very enjoyable and clearly put.
Fantastic! Another home run Tom!
In a visit to edinburgh a guide explained to us that this shield was small but light and also when fire weapons appeared a person could wear the shield and use a gun. Very useful tool.
I've always wanted a targe. That one is beautiful! Thanks
Love your work man
A beautifully crafted shield!
Absolutely awesome video , great content and awesome sparring in this historic content , thanks for sharing. 👍
OK this one was AMAZING.
Once again well done!
Always enjoy the content.
Very well done and fascinating video, learned so much!
Awesome vid, Tom! Love getting into the martial culture info. Cheers, Mike from Oregon :)
Great video Tom i love all the content you post , it was very informing of how life must of been way back when. How clever these guys were with their war tactics and evolving their skills in combat all those centuries ago :-)
Kinda interested - Targe also looks like a perfect partner for a short spear. Wasn‘t that a thing in Scotland?
Great video, thanks 👏👏👏
Love the channel! Gorgeous Baldric and Frog
Great Video as always!
I have learnt loads from ur channel
Great stuff brother! Thanks for sharing!
that the guards that they use in sparring are similar to sword and buckler guards, thats pretty cool
I love your channel bro. All the best.
A lovely tutorial
Really enjoyed this! Great video brother! 👊
Really enjoyed this, interesting, and educational. Cheers
Excellent video
Charging into battle... Sword, targe, and staff-slingshot in hand.
Great video and channel, mate
Fantastic man! Really interesting information, Amazing craftsmanship in that too! 😁🤜🏻
Thanks you.
Great video!
fantastic video! very informative!!
thank yew.
Thought I recognised the work of Alba Targe. Great video...
The idea of a wicker targe appeals to me.
Wicker shields were common to folk who were fighting on the "occasional" basis.
If you've got a good source of willow,I don't see a 20" disc taking a while to construct.
2 of them,sandwiched together,would be very light and surprisingly strong AND resilient.
A leather cover,fire-hardened and you'd be sorted.
First 👍 good video as usual bud
I really enjoyed this video. I think I'm going to try making myself a targe. I'll use modern plywood, though.
Really interesting vid , thx
bloody good video, laddie.
Love the channel and the name
Trop stylé le bouclier.
That is a lovely example of a targe.
Lovely. I cant wait to buy me a great kilt.
Would be cool to see you do a bushcraft camping trip carrying the sword like Rob Roy did
I feel like a good punch with the edge of this shield will totally knock someone out if it hits in the right spot like behind the ear or on the chin. Perfect weight and size for a quick attack like that.
When I was in Edinburgh back in 87, I went to a museum that had three or four Targe's that all had musket balls embedded in them. that must have been some wallop for the guy holding the Targe. So when I returned home, I decided to make my own. Now I know how to make a proper one. Thanks for the information. Oh, how thick was the wood that was used?
The wood is generally right under an inch thick, sometimes, 3/4 and about an inch overall with the hide added. The designs and builds vary alot but the "standard" is about 19 inches wide, 1 inch thick.
I wonder which one was better the Targe or the Viking shield?
Neither. They were designed for different things in different time periods.
I once read that "never borrow a Scotsman's shield" used to be a euphemism along the lines of getting oneself out of one's depth.
As a Border Reiver, my ancestors were known to ‘borrow’ their fair share of cattle too, on the odd occasion. 😉
As were mine! Such a source of pride.
Great video lad! Just be careful if you get to try a hike with the sword and targe. A man got arrested by the police in the Highlands because he was camping and he had brought a knife with him. Just be careful. 🙂
How much does the kilt wiegh,is there a demonstration of the close up,front line engagement, excellent work, thank you .
Like it very much.Have to many work with appeltrees,vegetabels and hunting.
Looks so greate
Tilting the targe before the impact is quite clever. Very simular to slanted tank armor. It creates a thicker section for the ball to pass
Yep, people in the past used the same principle for making plate armour
Im from the innes clan of Moray County in the Scottish Highland and my Scottish warrior Ancestors were Jacobites and i never knew the Targe was bulletproof 😊😊😊
I'd been wondering for some time now why in the world the Highland folk would have used a strapped shield of all things, when a center-grip shield with a center boss was superior in nearly every conceivable way for traditional combat. Ultimately, this is what lead me to watch your video, and I was not disappointed. With a shield being as weighty as the targe evidently was (something I'd never heard of previously, presumably because this period in time seems to just be neglected save for some romanticization) in an effort to protect against firearms (something else I'd never before heard of), it suddenly becomes clear why they would eschew center-grips which were both older and more practical for past shields. Encumbrance.
Thank you for everything that you provide with this channel, Tom. Frandabi Dozi serves as a means of illuminating Celtic past, reconstructing and building our understanding of these cultures, and dispelling the nonsense that has been built up over many, many generations of foreign rule and systematic erosion of those cultures. As Celtic diaspora, I do believe that this information is invaluable, although some might gawk at the notion. Our heritage and our culture is a cumulative understanding of the world around us, and when we uproot ourselves and settle in another place (as many Celts have unfortunately found it necessary to do over the last few hundred years), we are disrupting this line. Even if it was done to save ourselves, we often can do little to stop the gradual loss of our identity over time due to the lack of exposure to what once was.
Rediscovering this, and relearning it, is what will most directly help us understand ourselves. There is something powerful, and animal, about blood, and by taking the time to know our past, we can truly move ahead into the future. Or something like that.
So I’m here cuz I watched a tutorial on making bulletproof armor that stops a .50 cal pistol by using mild plate steel and rubber horse mats, seriously! I thought that would make a bit heavy but great targe for home defense!
Good video.
nice
armourclass do some amazing swords and do a lot of re-enactment fairs when they are on. i plan at some point to pick up one of their swords for re-enactment to go alongside a musket and targe and hopefully dirk. I love the martial scottish techniques they are awesome. its a shame we havent kept those skills from the times before culloden.