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I love shaq but he is completely clueless at times. He didnt even bother to look at jordans stats. His best statistical seasons were 87-89.
Word shaq talks about respecting the game, but at times he doesnt even know certain players, that are starters.
Shaq is insufferable
Shaq played basketball clueless. He was just big. Dude couldn’t even make free throws consistently.
Yea, but his stats didn’t drastically go down. It’s not like he went from 32 to 25 a game.
Shaq is unscientific and is fond of the "appeal to authority" fallacy. Chuck's smarter, clear at exposition, and is much more scientific in his thinking. Shaq argues from feelings, not science. I think Kobe was also more analytically-minded, like Chuck, maybe that's why he didn't get on so great with Shaq.
Chuck is absolutely right. Luka is on pace to follow harden, not Jordan
@@MichaelJordanGoat2324 how a 8th seed a MVP 😂
@@MichaelJordanGoat2324lmao jokic or sga are daylight ahead of him
Luka on pace to follow both Westbrook and harden. Big stats, no team success
@@jacksonberry8467Giannis also
go look at lukas averages in the playoffs and look at hardens , it's not even close
Shaq’s wrong, when Jordan had bad teammates, he had his highest scoring seasons because he was just getting everything for the bulls, once pipped, grant etc came onto the scene his average dropped and he didn’t have to carry the entire offensive load because he had a couple teammates able to go out and get 20 ppg and 30 if needed
Funny part is Jordan scoring went down but he still led the league in scoring lol. That's how great he was
Phil Jackson: MICHAEL, you cant lead the league in scoring & win a NBA championship! / JORDAN: phil! 32ppg is a easy 8pts per quarter 🤨
@@kidck Yeah thats the funny part Shaq kept saying he was the leading score. Yeah you can be the leading scorer and have your scoring stats go down at the same time....Shaq seems to fail at basic logic at times to make sure he doesnt sound wrong but it only highlights how wrong he is.
@@nickrowe4584 yeah I think it's hard for him to look at another perspective outside of how he did it.
Pippen and Grant were on that team for 2 years before Phil Jackson changed the system to triangle offense. It's not that "Jordan got better teammates", it's that the coach SHOWED him the way to play and win. And I think it's obvious the guy is the best ever, but it's not like he hasn't had troubles in his career.
The problem is Kidd can't coach, no plays, don't talk, not instructions, his plan is Luka and Kiry save the game, that's all Kidd do, he just stay there watching the team lose.
Exactly!! Kidd has to be creative offensively.
That's why the last coach left the Mavs u can't tell Luka nothing
@@chopfreddy6463last coach disrespect Luka teammate Dennis smith jr in front of everyone and he got outed
Ya but, LEADERSHIP! That's an old joke from back when he was still playing 😄
You don't know all that
It doesn’t help that Kidd is an awful coach. He’d rather play Kleber over Gafford for some reason
In love with the 3 ball
Kleber ain't even a bad player TF. Chuck is absolutely right here and 2 things can be true. If Kidd's a good coach he would've said this obvious stuff that's just said by Chuck to Luka directly instead of saying in a very bragging tone that 'Luka is the system' 😂🤣🤣
Wtf does that have to do wit the point Chuck wuz making. I been sayin for years Luka is a ball hog. Hes extremely good. Hes proven that. But thats not how u win chips
@@judyclarkson5887because a coach can tell a player to pass the ball more?
@@ItsYuhBoyyyystar players do what they want
Kobe Bryant became a complete player in 07-08. The year before, they barely made the playoffs and lost 4-1 to the Suns with him just constantly taking shot after shot. Going into the 07-08 season, the only roster changes were bringing back Fisher and signing DJ Mbenga. They traded for Ariza in late November, but barely played him (and he only played 8 games in the playoffs). Before Gasol ever played for the Lakers, they were 35-20 and were the 1 seed. All because Kobe had changed his game. Adding Gasol only put them over the edge. Kobe was always the most qualified person to speak on this playstyle not being winning basketball because he lived it and corrected it before it was too late.
no he didnt..he got lucky that GASOL was leading the LAKERS in winshares...without GASOL those lakers were 5 wins and 5 losses
GASOL missed 10 games and LAKERS were 5 wins and 5 losses..and those LAKERS were loaded compared to this MAVS...
and went right back to it after Gasol left.
You didn’t read the 35-20 before Gasol? I remember they rolling before also. Pau was the cherry on top.
Kobe's my favorite player of all time, but even in 07-08 he was not much different. The Lakers were different, injuries matter. Playing with a healthy Andrew Bynum instead of Kwame Brown & Smush Parker mattered. Derek Fisher was getting people involved. Kobe was averaging 4 or 5 assists per game, not 10.
Comparing what Luka's doing to Kobe's offense is silly.
Shaq with the fake news
Nah, let's not forget luka averaging 10 assist per game. Both chuck and shaq are right.
@@thialhoinj1971inflated stats. Luka Westbrook trajectory.
more shaq hate
Jason Kidd deserves blame too not just Luka
Bro, yall love to blame everything on the coach. It is 90% Luka's fault dude. You don't need a coach to baby you into telling you that your usage is too high. If people on CZcams comments know that, then Luka definitely knows that.
@@Lee-ic8ln "Luka is the game system" "our offense is our defense" nah the coach is the problem
@@Lee-ic8lnAnd you love to blame the superstar even tho he is playing the best bball of his career 🤡
@mirkecWii fr there's a reason the bucks got so much better after getting rid of him lmao
Chuck is a 1000% correct the team needs balance. Its luka and kyrie offense and maybe another player with 15.
There are Mavs players who can easily average 15 with ball movement. PJ and Exum. THJ is already averaging inefficient 16 pts a game.
@@bimalpudasaini3576that one livley dude seems pretty good Maybe not I'm not a basketball fanatic
@@bimalpudasaini3576 Exum is the most efficient out there. THJ minutes need to drop to zero imo
thj can't create nothing and his a bad ball handler and he is not even efficient, he is actually hurting you, Pj can but he is really incosistent and his 3p is not falling...@@bimalpudasaini3576 even said that you are talking like if luka is not passing the ball, the dude average nearly 10 assist...
@@ericcartmansfatroll1635 Hes good hes got all star center potential, and THJ needs to have less minutes
How u averaging 38 wit Kyrie on the team. Shi dont even make basketball sense
😂😂
Nah rs tho
Chuck is right on this one. Shaq did not bring the ball up, his teammates got him the ball to the post to score and pass and as per Luka, he starts the possessions with the ball in his hand and has not played enough off the ball to get easier baskets.
Nope Chucks wrong here, its a silly Black and White thinking to say Luka should pass more not considering the teammates hes playing with mostly suck
@@readmycomment3707 It's not about passing more. It's about learning to play without the ball. There's a lot of ways to draw defenders away from teammates and create open looks for people other than yourself when you don't have the ball. Also, Doncic is a huge defensive liability, no one mentions this. He needs to be extra efficient on offense to make up for it. Every time he goes down into the paint to score a nifty post move it puts him out of position to do the thing that's in a point guard's name: guard the point.
@@jakestine4753 Steph was never a great defender either, didnt stop him
Steph is also still a better defender (even considering his lack of size), and has also been a much better offensive player through out his career. If anything he proves the point that you need to be a better offensive player to make up for weaknesses in defense.
steph is not a better offensive player than luka... he just had way more and better help... steph has klay, luka has thj as 'the shooter', where is the DPOY level defender that Draymond is for gsw on the mavs?? not even mentioning kevin durant... or iguodala...@@jakestine4753
Shaq is living in his own world...
Blows my mind! None of them have been watching mavs games and you can tell by their entire statement. Luka has been trying to get everyone involved but others haven’t been knocking down shots.
Facts
Honestly
Always giving him apass.. cuban stopped believing why he sold the team
Luka gets people involved only if he is making the pass. No screen setting, no setting hockey assist.
Tell me this. When the last time Luka has made a back door cut lol?
@@wisethabrain1100 jordan had no kyrie
It’s the lack of coaching from Kidd and no commitment to defense.
luka is a ball hog
Barkley farted at 5:52
Isn’t this like virtually the same thing Harden was doing in Houston his last couple of years? He was unbelievably ball dominant, did almost nothing else on offense and played construction cone defense. Racked up meaningless stats and then got ousted in the playoffs. We’ve seen how this style of basketball plays out…
It's 1000% the same. Just like everyone got on Harden and said he wouldn't win it all playing that style, it's the same for Luka.
but that houston team are winning in the regular seasons
Luka is Harden 2.0.. immaculate with the ball in his hands but brings nothing else to the table. Luka will never win anything until he becomes the 3rd or 4th scorer just like Harden. Lukas points don't amount to wins even with the more talent they put around him. He's not even going to make the playoffs again..
@@MichaelJordanGoat2324at least Lebron has a ring
Difference is Luka doesn’t flame out in the playoffs instead he produces at the same level as Micheal Jordan performance wise
Chuck hit the nail on the head right here, man 🎯
Right away you can notice that Chuck didn't watch any of the last 5-6 mavs games (same goes for the bunch of people who are just jumping on the same bandwagon) team has been playing awful, missing open layouts, free throws, and the worst thing they are being horribly coached, they lost last five games in exactly the same way...they got killed from a 3-point line and coach did nothing to change this, instead of his forcing to play guys like hardaway jr who averages 25 minutes a game and in last 10 games he was 31-94 on FT,and 23-58 on 3s and that's your elite scorer?!? On top of it you have Maxi Kleber who also averages 25 minutes and he's 13-39 on FT and 7-26 on 3s... I mean it came so bad that you depend on Luka to score 30 on a halftime just to keep you in-game.
Thanks for noticing it is a team sport!
@Lazar_ have you nothing to do with your time or what.
Im sure you are in every single Luca relaited comment section.
Get a life.
Charles exactly right i don't know what the hell Shaq talking about 😂
As much as i love Luka he is from my country..but yea Charles is right
The problem is Luka passes the ball but his teammates are bricking especially THJ
because they can't get into a rhythm. Look at the warriors that is the ideal style of basketball movement. Steph curry could have easily averaged 40 a night but he plays a lot of off ball. I agree though THJ is a fucking brick.
@@ADK117He is off ball because he was never Pg but SG...
Indeed.
Mavs Vs.Heat, PJ 4/12 FG, THJ 3/11 FG, Kyrie 9/19 etc. What is Luka supposed to do? Pass even more so the supporting cast can brick even more shots?
@@denizg2653 Pass it to Exum and stop passing it to THJ
There's a difference between passing for assists and allowing other guys to be creators. It doesn't help that he is such a lousy off ball player, practically playing 4 on 5 if he's not the handler because he gives a poor effort. He needs to do more things that don't show up on the stat sheet.
Chuck makes a good point here
Nope
He actually doesn't watch BB and talking to spike controversy. He doesn't criticise black players, this is his problem.
@nikolayjerev9285 lol not the race card.. Chuck has never bit his tongue about any player. LeBron wouldn't come on TNT for many years because of Chuck's criticism. The truth hurts sometimes.
One of the biggest problems the Mavs have (aside from not playing defense), is that their third leading scorer is Tim Hardaway Jr. who comes off of the bench. You cannot win a championship with that formula.
i feel u but I think them being a jumpshooting team hurts ... u gotta use ur young bigs
And Hardaway tends to go iso when he has the ball ... so have 3 iso guys in Dallas.
I dont think people realize how bad Tims been
@@randygraham926 Hes not really an iso guy, he gets a lot of open looks and still misses. Hes more of a volume shooter, problem is he plays 0 D and hes streaky so he goes ice cold and hes useless
Bro THJ has been ass for the past 3 months.
Doesn't help that he's the worst defender on the team, which is damning considering Luka and Powell are on the roster
IT IS NOT LUKA. Kidd plays bad rotations, bad defensive schemes, too much Hardaway, no adjustments. Shaq is right.
Too much Maxi and (hopefully not again) Dwight Powell at the 5
Once again chuck is correct.
That’s why he should stick to basketball, not politics
LUKA is number 1 in creating open shoots for his teammates...
EMBIID and GIANNIS have the ball all the time stat padding and not making any real assists...
@@onlyfacts3178bro get Luka meat out ya mouth I seen you everywhere else , bro is statpadder numbers don’t hold no calories, and finna play in play in 2 years in row lol
"Check the records" Kenny 😅😅😅😅
That was my tweet 🤣🤣
It's not the players. It's the coaching...
I mean Jason Kidd is spectating just like the rest of us
Whatever you have to say to excuse Luka, mf never gets criticized
no its both
@@SaulFavela-ld8ktHe gets criticized probably the most out of any NBA player...
@@SaulFavela-ld8kt Many Mavs fans slammed Luka for his whining to the refs and his lazy defense.. Lol.
Charles is such a great analyst. His humor sometimes overshadows his immaculate analysis
Luka is too ball-dominant. Doesn’t allow anyone else to create and doesn’t move enough without the ball.
Also, their defense is putrid.
Finally, can the NBA stop giving Jason Kidd head coaching jobs?
Alot of it is rotations. When kids put out him exum and kyrie, it looked a lot better.
@@KingOfTheDungle Yeah but Exum has always been inconsistent and had injury problems so I never really expected him to be a long-term fix to anything. He's always better in theory than in practice.
finally someone who actually watches mavs lol. Luka needs a coach who can put him in his place whom he would actually listen to. make him play more off-ball, make him stop whining on every "bad/non" call and stop playing thj unless he's hot from the get-go.
Chuck is right. Luka doesn’t or can’t play offball. If you look at
Jokic, he is constantly moving or setting screens. Cutting. Etc. Luka is playing Harden ball from Houston days. Those assists are to spot up shooters or a lob after he’s been dribbling for almost 20 seconds.
Jokic can’t play like Luka which is why he simply sets picks and hands the ball off. Anyone who has ever watched a full Mavs game knows that only Kyrie and Luka can handle the ball. Every other player is afraid to dribble because they will turn it over. Doncic is a playmaker, whereas Jokic is a great player operating in a system with 5 or 6 other good players. All Jokic has to do is hand it off at the top of the key, to either Murray, Porter J or KCP, or a rim running Gordon. Jokic gets most of his assists by handing it to very good players.
Doncic plays with a starting lineup and bench that could not play for the Nuggets (except Irving).
What Chuck misses and does not make sense is Luka needs to play off the ball. What does that even mean? Luka does play off the ball, and is then passed the ball because no one else can create or score. He is averaging more assists than normal because Washington is a better finisher than they have had this year, but the other players are still shooting horribly. If Luka was on Denver, he would be averaging another 6 or 7 assists per game.
@@look4fax63 then issue when ur best scorer also is ur point guard ... kurie isnt a traditional type pg either which makes it worse. all dallas bigs become jumpshooters or rebounders... get those young athletic bigs 18 to 20 points a piece but they stuck watchin iso ball all game
Great great points by everyone here. The team set around Luka isn’t beneficial to winning. Luka and Kyrie won’t make teammates better. Luka dribbles too much and Kyrie isn’t a playmaker like Brunson was. You have two ball dominant guards who prefer to score first. At least Brunson made the right play. Get rid of Kyrie and hardaway Jr and get 3 and D players, with lively and gafford at center
And Jokic always changes his game based on what the defense is trying to do to stop him. He isn't ROTE. And as you say, he MOVES without the ball. And sets picks constantly.
@@look4fax63 I think that's the craziest take I've read here. Yes, Luka would average 35 points, 15 assists and 10 rebounds if he played in Denver. Hahaha.
The disrespect to Dallas players is sad. Denver wouldn't score 10 wins playing the same style as Dallas.
chunk is on point man
I have a friend just like Shaq. It’s like damn you dumb 🤦♂️ “ight you right” 😆
The Luka hate out of nowhere is insane 😂😂😂
Bro i been saying this about dude. Hes extremely good. Hes proven that. But he be stat padding and showing off instead of trying to win. Its obvious
Meanwhile, the Mavs ARE ahead of the Lakers in the standings. Imagine them bashing Lebron.
a valid criticism is not hate
@@ADK117You can do it but they never mention the head coaches, they talk only individuals like it's their fault that their head coach is really bad.
Kidd doesn't have an actual game plan. That's why. He just gives the ball to Luka and prays
Actual Kidd quote, "Luka is the game plan"
You actually watch Mavs games?
"That was him, Ty." 😆
Egocentric shaq.
Defense is their main problem as a collective. Luka smart he knows when to step back and when to take over.
Yup, if his guys are struggling he needs to take over to some extent.
Kenny always talking about himself lol
He does lol
Why is it a bad thing? That's why he's there - he has experience on the court, he provides his perspective on the issue. Shaq and Chuck always talk about themselves too and there's nothing wrong with that. They were all long-time NBA players with a lot of experience and different viewpoints.
This was a great example tho
@@TrykusMykus this is true, in fact Kenny is the only “other” on the panel cause Shaq and Chuck were the stars so his perspective is the only one on the panel u can get from this view.
Trying to explain to someone who probably can't tie their shoe is pointless@@TrykusMykus
I think the root of the problem is related to the offensive fluidity. If Luka is getting his shots in any given night... Can any other guys get enough tread to get into a rhythm? Its clear the rest of the team needs more touches but if they're not executing then you cant blame Luka for taking those shots. Its a good problem to have, especially with the expertise of Kyrie Irving. I hope they figure out their offensive game plan
Kenny head tattoo is wild
Nah I can’t believe we let him get away with that one😂
Yall want Luka to get rid of the ball but he is the point guard. The point guard brings the ball down the floor. Also he has had 10+ assists in these last 5 games. I agree that Luka needs to develop his off the ball game, but this Mavs offense is not the issue for this team its the defense. Chuck says that Luka doesn't make players around him better but look at Dante Exum, he was out of the league last year and now he is a proficient 3rd ball handler on this team. Another player in Reggie Bullock, who averaged 8 in the regular season, and 10+ in the 2022 playoffs, and now as a Rocket is a benchwarmer. Also, everyone is saying let kyrie bring the ball up the floor, Kyrie LOVES moving off the ball. When the guard rotation does not involve Luka (Exum and Irving) Kyrie plays as the shooting guard off the ball in 85% of the possessions. Again, I get what Chuck is getting at here, but saying Luka doesn't get his teammates involved is garbage.
having 10 assist doesn't mean your not ball dominant and nor does it mean you're not taking your teammates out of rhythm by the lack of ball movement.
@@erroneouse1929 I never said that Luka isn't ball dominant. Luka and Kyries gravity is what makes our offense work so well and is what allows Luka and Kyrie to find the open man most of the time. Mavs went from the slowest team in pace last year to 7th this year so rhythm and speed isn't really an issue for this team.
I get sick of people pretending Jordan Bird Magic won with players like Pj Washington n Daniel Gafford
Those Bird Celtics teams were stacked.
Stafford 🤣
@@iarebaboon84 lol see how regular he is
It doesn't matter honestly Luka's shooting is way too good to have that low of an fg%, hes forcing bad shots like he doesn't trust his teammates other than Kyrie
@@neeltrip2443 like I said Mj..Bird..Magic..Kobe..all had better to work with
Luka style of play won't win chips. He turns good players into spot up shooters. Everybody just stands around watching Luka have fun.
Exactly- you can’t win averaging 35/10/10 💀 James Harden was gettin 30/8/8 and did NOT win. Case in point. LeBron’s scoring went from 29-30 PPG to 26-27 PPG and win back-to-back Finals MVPs.
Lebron went from the cavs to the heat then got a normal kyrie and Kevin love then a great ad luka ain’t never had any teammates like lebron so please don’t say lebron
@@PrinceSlade22 Did you not listen to Shaq? Jordan literally won averaging 35. Its called having a good roster and good coach
@@xCzarlyMavs don't have a Kevin Love, nor the defensive role players that the Cavs had.
@@Paulafan5 that what I just said🤦🏻♂️
I saw this segment live and I think Shaq and Chuck lowkey saying the same thing. But Chuck is right, we know Luka is capable of dropping 30-35 PTS a game but there are other prolific scorers that can do the same thing like Kobe, Curry, Bron, and the list goes on but there is no reason why the Mavs in most NBA talk isn't considered a top contender and it starts with the heliocentric offense. Even though I hate the comparison but this is gives prime James Harden/Russell Westbrook vibes. But Shaq is right that to be one of the greatest you should be able to put up those numbers, when it's neccesary. Even though Jokic is better, his numbers are "down" in terms of scoring but you can see the differences in his and Luka's TDBs and DDBs.
It gives Harden vibes because Westbrook plays great defense while neither Harden or Doncic play good defense, they just do barely enough.
The Mavs team are full of bums that’s just it
Thats funny I dont remember them saying Embid should share the ball more when he was averaging 35, sounds like they just dont like the fact a "White boy" is the scoring leader
@@readmycomment3707 wow racism again? Its not about the fact he scores alot its the fact he does that and facilitates their whole offense which is terrible way to play a team game. He needs to score less if he is to be a primary playmaker.
Doncic is not westbrook and harden at his prime becouse harden has post season melt down and westbrook becomes westbrick
Chuck just described what is happening to Jayson Tatum this season. He gives the ball up all game especially at the start of them. His numbers are down but he’s on a first seed for the first time in his career at a record pace
I completely disagree. How many of the people in the comments consistently watch the Mavs? They have a decent roster at best on paper, but nobody is consistent except Luka. The Indiana game the other night, it was pretty obvious that Luka was going to have to score 50 to even have a chance to win that game bc nobody could knock down shots. For gods sake he basically had a 40 point triple double and get blown out by 20. What else does he have to do?
They haven't watched any Mavs games. Otherwise they'd know this is a Coaching issue, not a Luka issue
Jason Kidd just gives the ball to Luka and prays. No actual schemes lmao
Doesn't help that THJ has been colder than a Yeti's ballsack for the past 3 months. Yet Kidd keeps giving him 20+ minutes, until last night thankfully
@@toob_noob4381exactly. All you have to do is watch them play without Luka or Kyrie on the floor. They’re so good they pretty much disguise the obvious blemishes of the coaching. Without them on the floor it’s a big ass mess.
Chuck is absolutely right
MJ was averaging 38 before he became a champion. He was 30 or around that during his championship years.
Luka needs his Scottie Pippen. Kyrie isn't it.
@@Paulafan5 no, he needs to not be so ball dominant, move the ball, even MJ did that
I love this damn show so much
Chuck is spot on! I've been saying this about Luka for years.
He averages 10 assists too
How much do you want him to do
Play defense?
He going to if he has the ball all the time
Stat padding
A well balanced team with a player that has a killer mentality is the key recipe to win a championship
Shaq just speaks from a dominant big man perspective every time that they talk about a guard🤣
Luka, Harden, Russ, all guys with similar play styles, haven’t won anything
Luka can change, he's effective and he doesn't need the ball as much as people think, he needs a new team though, a strong defense team
Lukas definitely is a stronger player. I think he will figure it out.
Russ atleast makes effort on defense, not fat
@@JohnnytNaturalluka can't be part of a a great defensive team because every time would just attack luka.
Luka is clutch tho. We already seen him turning up in the playoffs against so called favorites.
the luka hate is crazy
Funny how valid criticisms are seen as hate!
He has to carry hot and cold Ky. You never know what to get from kyrie. That's a difficult thing to do
He’s avg 26 wdym 💀
Charles with some real good analysis. Impressive
If Shaq wasn’t Shaq, he would’ve been off this show after his first year, his takes are horrific 😞
Chuck is 100% correct, when they won 7games in a row he avg around 32%usage rate. but 1 thing they are not saying is Luka's usage rate is actually lower this year!! the main problem in Dallas is they forgot how to play defense after the all star break.
Oooo
First time seeing Shaq and Charles having a discussion and one of them ending up agreeing to one’s opinion cordially
It's up to everyone on the team gosh darn it
Mindsets: Chuck's a scientist. Shaq's a humanities guy.
LOL! Clueless. If you watched the Neil DeGrasse Tyson interview with Chuck, Chuck is unable to grasp concepts that NDT explains like how he would to his grandmother. He is street smart and he’s speaking from experience rather than using information to formulate concepts and draw conclusions. Maybe to you he’s smart, but trust me. He is not a scientist 😂
@@iwishiwasthomasshelby ahh, so you’re another humanities guy.
Do you know what the words “literal” and “simile” mean? Ok, well the original comment was NOT being literal, he was making a simile. I doubt he actually considers Chuck a scientist
@@drewf6063 I can’t fix what you have 🤦♂️
@@iwishiwasthomasshelby bro, if I had any type of issue, I would know you can’t help. You don’t have the capacity to, and I wouldn’t trust you to try.
@@iwishiwasthomasshelby if i did have a problem, I wouldn’t allow you to try. No trust in you
Chuck: "Shaq it do go down!" -- iykyk
The Mavs are easily the scariest team outside of the top 3. This team can get hot and blow out anyone when those 3s from the rest of the team start falling. Luka is a walking 35-40 a night come playoff time, and he can easily find shooters when the defense tries to zero in. Plus, Kyrie is very skilled and can get his own shot. This team will be a very tough out, even for the likes of Denver and the Clippers
just think to recently with golden state, kd and stephs numbers went down but it definitely became a lot easier and team orientated resulting in wins, that's what chuck is getting at
Luka a much better and more willing passer than all of them ever were. lol
thats not that point dummy.. he passes to get assists and never moves off-ball.. more points and assists ≠ better impact.. he is very talented not taking anything away from him but he has to develop that part of his game bc you cant win playing heliocentric ball
Heliocentric style of play has never produced a championship ever! Iverson, Nash, Harden, Russ all of these have not won anything because come playoff time they are too predictable caus eof their point of attack. If Luka slightly change his playstyle and not ballhog and play off the ball then it might have a chance.
Nash was anything but heliocentric, wth are you talking about?
@@capcomfan303 somebody is not paying attention. Every possession those suns have nash touched the ball and often initiates it. Check his time of possession during those years and you would get embarrased to find out.
@@LLDRv Nash was a Pass first pg fool, he only scored when it was needed. The problem was never his style of play it was D'Antoni's philosophy of play. It only worked until he faced a coach who outschemed him Ala Pop and Phil Jackson
@@LLDRv Luka and Nash are two different styles of players, so your comparison is horrible
@@capcomfan303 my point still stands. The offense was based on a single player thus him having the ball all of the damn time. Yes, he a pass-first guy but because of that he had the ball all of the time making him predictable. Do you not get the point? If not, give an example of a player who won a title by having the ball every possession?
Kenny was voted in MVP race Higher than Hakeem in his first season with Rockets. He isnot a scrub LOL.
This is the best i ever seen from kenny, i really didn’t know shot attempts you were fouled on didn’t count towards actual fg attempts
Has anyone ever seen Luka set a pick? 😂 He's a guard but I've seen Curry set picks -- and then cut to the basket without the ball. Luka stands around when he doesn't have the ball. He's a great talent but there's things he could do without the ball. And Kidd shows no sign of anything imaginative as a coach. 🙂
He's terrible on defense, takes terrible shots and turns the ball over WAY to much. Hes not an MVP.
@@MichaelJordanGoat2324lebron used to have good defense, we aren’t saying it’s good anymore
@@MichaelJordanGoat2324I’d like to see Luka clamp Kawhi for an entire 4th quarter like Bron did a week ago. You’re smoking crack
Chuck has a point he’s great but Luka should utilize His Teammates more PJ Washington is really good and his teammates are really solid
I love Chuck and Kenny because Chuck didn't have any significant accomplishments as shaq and Kenny is just a role player back then. They were not flexing achievements so they were so natural in their opinions. Shaq is so driven by his accomplishments to the point where he doesn't know what his saying and tunneled his vision in his opinions.
Buddy averages a triple double and they saying he don’t evolve people 🤣🤣🤣
If you look at the box score, that’s all you’d discern. But truthfully watching the games, the game isn’t any easier for him or the other guys on the team tbh. Quality of shots isn’t there.
They said the same about russ
They're right, Luka fanboys just can't handle the truth about their hero 🤷♂
Do more than box score watch. Dude plays ABSOLUTELY NO DEFENSE. DOES NOTHING OFF BALL. He just wants the ball 100% of the time.
@@nikithkadambi4208And they were right about Russ. Russ ain’t winning a chip averaging a triple double. Now his coming off the bench and has the best chance to win one.
Telling the #4 player in A/G in the entire league he is to blame for not sharing the ball and getting his team mates involved has to be the highest level of stupidity
Not even a single mention of the coaching staff, of course, or the fact that Ky was injuried and for the biggest part of the season they didn't have PJ, Lively or Gafford 😂
ESPN for ya
Exactly. They are desperately trying to discredit Doncic as a player, similarly to what happened to Jokic. Double digit iq commentators @ ESPN, single digit here on youtube.
@@cunninglinguist900 They aren't wrong. Luka is a great player, no one said otherwise. But Luka has to involve others. If that's the coach who has to make it happen, the so be it.
Do you even watch these games? How does he "not involve others"?@@user-ky7le9bf2m
Ernie's ability to hold this all together is amazing. Going to sad to see him gone someday
It's hard arguing against Chuck... dude has the knowledge and backs his arguments..
completely disagree with Chuck, and I know he doesn't watch the games by what he is saying. Luka is constanlty passing and getting others involved. Once again, they arent making shots, just like before they had talent. Luka is simply still making his shots. Kyrie's been mid lately, and Hardaway has been horrendous the passed few games. The defense has actually been decent to really good in some games. Just soooo many missed shots. Hopefully that was just a slump and we can pull through.
Luka leading league scorer & no.3 in assists thus far... what more does he have to do?
Watched the last 9 mavs games (not a regular watcher) & have to agree - shot % fell off
Spot on
Chuck's not simply saying that people have to get more shots. He's saying the ball needs to touch more hands, move more to help create more/better shots for the team.
when they went on a 7 game win streak, luka's usage rate was the lowest it's been all season. he needs to move the ball more.
Chuck saying the same thing most of us Mavs fan been saying. Luka a damn ball hog.
Lmao you are not a Mavs fan... Without Luka Dallas is a lottery team
@@Vini7034 that may be true. I’m not saying get rid of him. But I’m not a fanboy who acts like he can do no wrong. He has to get his teammates involved if they are going to win 🏆 if not, he can keep piling up empty stats, obviously that impresses you. 😒
You are not a mavs fan. You are pretending to be one. During minutes when luka sits out for even a minute, they lose 10 to 15 point lead instantly.
@@edwardlasker0821 that may be true, but that doesn’t mean Luka needs to get it all back by himself. Y’all don’t wanna win. Just wanna glaze your favorite player for some damn stats
@TrevStoker good luck to your mavs, every team has a rough patch
Shaq always misses the easiest points
Chuck is right. Luka should have spent more time watching Jordan than LeBron or Harden.
Thats funny I dont remember them saying Embid should share the ball more when he was averaging 35, sounds like they just dont like the fact a "White boy" is the scoring leader
Bullshit
Simple, luka hogs the ball to get his 36 while his teammates wait for a pass while players who played with Shaq/Embiid tries to find them in their spots.
Harden, a black player, similarly got crucified for his playing style in Houston. So what are you on about?
@@symbiosis5095 Hes averaging nearly 10 assists a game punk
@@symbiosis5095Embiid has higher usage than Luka 🤡
Not a single color related comment anywhere in the TNT crew, not one.
LUKA Shooting over 50% so its his fault that KYRIE is shooting 19 times to get just 23 points ahahahha
RACIST NBA MEDIA
with a great team, his ppg and rebounds should go down but is assists, efficiency and maybe even defense stats should go up.
When one of your "shooters" (THJ) is shooting worse than me is hard to distribute the ball... the last few game I watched Luka pass to an wide open THJ (after Luka drew the double) and miss badly. After two or three of these kind of attempts you can see Luka go "f-it I'm going to do it myself" and goes and gets a bucket. Every quarter the same story... Also when he's not in the game they seam lost. Like they see the ball for the first time - forced shots, actions going nowhere... I don't know if this is the players fault or the coaches...
Let’s go my heats 🙏🏼🤞🏼 best of luck
I agree, if he's really wanted to win, he would make PJ and Gafford look like borderline all stars. He's been pampered too much with Mavs.
Luka needs to get guys going early and then take over. Plus play defense like he did the 2nd half tonight.
Shaqs numbers were way higher in Orlando than in LA. Chuck is right. Kenny get these guys some water 😂
The Mavs would benefit from a system offense that creates some structure and rules for Luka as opposed to hero ball.
Shaq got absolutely schooled on this one. Abd he seems to get schooled regularly 😂😂😂
Chuck is right, luka needs to get rid of the ball a little more but I also think that the bench haven't been consistent the whole season. THJ can make 30+ one night but the next ten games he'll make 8 ppg, also they need to have more energy on the defense.
Dude averaging 37 WITH 11 assists since all-star break & they want him to pass more?? They want him averaging 15 assists? Tf it's not like he not passing obviously
Like Washington and Gafford are such a game changers, better move would be to get rid of J kidd, Hardaway, Powell....
As a die hard Mavs fan I always agree with Chuck and this is definitely no different. Luka still needs to delegate quicker.
The problem is playing Maxi/Dwight at the 5 in key situations and playing Hardaway when his shots are not falling.
Shaq can clown Barkley because of "no rings" and "Auburn education" all he wants, but when it's time to analyze a player or a team, Chuck is on another level.
No other players bring the ball up. THJ and Green miss wide open shots. These factors restrict Luka's willingness to bring down the usage.
Although I agree with Chuck. Shaq makes a good point. He can still average his 37 and get others involved. It’s about picking your spots and your timing. Joker get’s his, but is also a facilitator. Takes what the defense gives him. This is why his team wins games, and reigning NBA champ
Chuck is so right... Just from a overarching numbers perspective not getting into strategy if Luka scaled back to 28-29ppg and got some more touches for others it would be a gamechanger. The problem is one of those guys THJ is completely bipolar lol. The Mavs really really missed out on bringing Dinwiddie back. It may seem trivial but he would make a huge difference.
Charles is on point.
I will take no rings and basket ball logic over 4 rings and no logic🏀
Too bad you don’t have either