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Di Marzio Ultra Jazz DP149 vs Model J DP123
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- čas přidán 3. 08. 2024
- Sound comparison between the Di Marzio Ultra Jazz DP149 and Model J DP123 pickups. The Model Js sound fuller and punchier, but also darker compared to the Ultra Jazz, which have more clarity and articulation.
Volume pots are CTS 500k and tone is CTS 250k
Strings are Rotosound RS66LF 45-105
00:00 Di Marzio Ultra Jazz
00:20 Di Marzio Model J
00:40 Ultra Jazz VT Bass
01:00 Model J VT Bass
01:20 Neck Pickup
02:09 Both Pickups
02:55 Bridge Pickup
04:14 Slap
04:41 Neck VT Bass
05:32 Both VT Bass
06:20 Bridge VT Bass
07:38 Slap VT Bass
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I like the Model J pickups. They have a fuller sound. It's easier for a sound engineer to reduce certain frequencies, and harder to add frequencies that are not present.
This demo was outstanding and truly helpful on my decision. Will listen a couple more times. Leaning towards the Model J so far.
I like the bite and growl that the Ultra Jazz pickups offer!!!! I'm seriously considering replacing the pickups in my Sire V7 5 with these!!! Thank you for a great comparison video!!!
The model J wins hands down to me. Way punchier thank the Ultra J. Glad I heard this as I was gonna pick up a Ultra J but now I'll get the Model J , thanks !!
I got the Ultra Jazz in my ‘78 Jazz Bass … I like how it cuts through clearly.
Choice is easy. Ultra jazz sounds like single coil jazz pickups, model j sounds like P pickups. You like j or p?
I would love to see you do a relentless jazz set compared to these
Wow, that Model J neck pickup has such a wonderful punch. Perfect for when you want to emulate a P Bass. I have Kloppmanns in my 60s JB but I kinda want that now. 😅
I picked up a Waterstone Jazz Bass (Korean-built, based and set up in Nashville) about 15 years ago. At times I thought about selling it, as it never quite moved me sonically. I finally got around to modding it, replacing the bridge, doing a CTS rewire, and dropped in a pair of DiMarzio DP123 pickups. What a difference. I can't imagine parting with it - it sounds great. So glad I held onto it and so glad I got the DiMarzio 123s. I like that fuller-leaning tone and they get bright enough for my liking.
Great comparison video, done well with excellent editing.
Many CZcamsrs could learn a lot from your productions.
Both pickups sound great, but the Ultra Jazz sounds a little fuller in the bridge position.
I've had the Model J's for a long time. They are really excellent. *** Don't overlook the ability to adjust the pole height with a hex key (same size as for bridge adjustment). *** The Ultra Jazz don't have this. It allows you to get the volume of each string the same regardless of the action height of each string. The face of the pickup body is linear, but the fretboard (and therefore my string height) is along an arc. Another thing is, this lets you have a "hot" tone even if you play with a higher action. I notice Oliver has an impossibly low action! Very cool. But I play much higher (I really don't like fret buzz) and so the Ultra Jazz would have nowhere near the signal level that I can get with the Model J / DP123s. Thanks for this well-produced video, Oliver.
Check out new DIMARZIO Sixties J and new Relentless J. I designed them with an arch to imp}ove the problem that you mentioned..
Great comment, thanks!
great demo!
Both are excellent. Great video.
Great demo, I have the Model J DP123's installed on my '78 J and I love them. They give it much more of a classic precision sound and fill in the low end in a way that normally takes preamps and other electronics to achieve with the standard pickups.
Ted, how did you wire them, series or parallel?
@@franksteinmiller1738 I had it done at a local guitar shop so I don't know. I just know they sound awesome.
I love the Ultra Jazz. They've got a little extra sumthin sumthin!
Laura Lee of Khruangbin 👩🏻plays the Ultras in her SX Jazz Bass 🎸 with Dimarzio Chrome Flatwounds. Cuts easily through the mix.
Awesome vid
I appreciate that the cure is often an example
Lookin like I might have to put some Ultras on my Sire v5!! But dang that model j neck pup is so good with a pick!!
The Ultras have that crispness and twang I cannot tolerate. It even creeps up with the tone down. Model J all the way!
Model J seems to have a little more pronounced midrange, Ultras more scooped with brighter top end. Ultras great for bedroom but I’d take the Model J for band setting
Both sound great, I do notice like the Model J. DiMarzio pickups all sound great when cranked or pushed.
Dimarzio needs to hire you bro. Model J's all the way! Has that Grrr and grunt.Bar room brawler. The Ultra Jazz are like a lightweight 120 pound guy doing Tai Chi. Both are cool sounding, jack relax, the Model J gonna kick some serious gluteus max. lol thanks
The Model J pickups are my favorites.
How do you ha e yours wired, series or parallel? From the videos, series sounds better.
@@franksteinmiller1738 series! You can wire them to do both with a push pull switch
Hi, i have sx sjb62 jazz bass, dimarzio ultra jazz 149 set seems to fit but i want to make sure before order. Sx’s bridge pickup slot is slightly longer than the neck pickup btw.
Your comparison videos are great!
Could you make a video of stock pickups and branded ones combined?
Ex: Fender Stock P + Ultra Jazz / Model J
It would be a big help to Bassplayers.
Great idea. Any PJ bass such as a Yamaha TRBX174 would work.
Keep the very good sounding P neck pickup, but replace only the noisy single coil J bridge pickup with one of these in this video.
A Seymour Duncan Hot Stack Noiseless Jazz Pickup would be another great test in the bridge position.
Nice demo!
Now, how about an Ultra Jazz on the neck position and the Model J on the bridge?
Besides OCD issues about the "mismatch", I think it would be a nice mix!
Ugh! Not sure about that. Might work, might not. Output is slightly different, but you could compensate by adjusting the height. Would be a cool experiment
Yep, i've got an Ultra Jazz (creme) on the neck and a Model J on the bridge (black). It works well for me. I wanted to have that smoothness on the bridge, and that thickness on the neck. Best of the both world. I can design my sound as I want.
The Dp123 sounded louder. But I set the bridge pick up lower (the tiny things, not the whole pick up). And it's the same volume now.
I didn't set the 500k capacitor, i will do soon. To get the full potential of my instrument.
I was thinking similarly, but the other way around. Getting the punch of Model J at the neck and sizzle of the Ultra Jazz at the bridge.
Would the model J work in a Ricky style positioning? Thinking Dave Meros style bass set up but more modern tone
I’ve been waiting for this comparison as I’m on the fence between these exact pickup models. Completely different to each other. I have no idea which ones to buy, haha…
I went with aguilar
Who is your favorite band / bassist? Give them a quick listen on a decent sound system which reproduces low end. Then just look for the pickup that helps deliver the same tone.
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Olá, o que acha dos captadores schaller JBX dos anos 80"? Dizem que são semelhantes ao Dimarzio DP123. Também são bons captadores?
Menurutmu, antara SD Apollo dengan DM Model J dan DM Ultra yang mana karakternya hampir mendekati DM Model P diantara 3 PU tersebut mr.? Please tell me the detail, thx before.
Hi, what is a song from 3:45? knowing it, but cannot remember. Thankso for the demonstration.
Hey there, thanks for watching! It's Seemann by Rammstein
I watch again and figure it might be about what you want to do. Model J thumps like a Precision. Ultra Jazz is more hifi and would be a good choice for slap.
What a great audition for both of these Jazz pups. I put the 149's in my 78'. Whats nerve wracking about this compason is that either of these is a significant improvement over stock Fender pickups. I am thinking of buying another Jazz just so I can have both. The 145s are my favorite because of the instantaneous response and punch but maybe lean toward a jazz-rock fusion style with an especially sharp pick attack.
How is the real world output on these? The numbers on the DiMazio website list output at 250 (ultra Jazz) vs 150 (Model J). In the video they seem to be both the same volume. Was it like that in your room?
Great question. Different output volume?
I had set of model J's in my jazz, I found they were dull and muddy muddier than my P bass and thunderbird.
Does a 500K pot give it more bite or is it just louder.
Just more bite, they are quite dark pickups and need the extra help
Ultra Jass is more stereotypical of a Jazz bass with a lot of top end bite. Model J is way more hot and in your face with that midrange punch. they both sound very nice.
Do you have a wiring for how you wired them together in series and to the pots in regular parralel
Each pickup has four wires, two for each coil: white and green, red and black
Series: white and black together, not connected to anything. Green to ground, red to volume pot
Parallel: Green and black together to ground, Red and white together to volume pot
Squire or fender?
O Model J , você os conectou em série ou paralelo?
Qual é a marca das cordas que estão nesse contrabaixo???
Rotosound RS66LF
@@OliverTobyn bacana. Muito obrigado.
Which one is louder?
The gain levels were both exactly the same, and even the pickup height was the same. The Model J sounded slightly hotter to me
@@OliverTobyn I expected the UltraJ to be louder, thanks for the info.
this model j are similars to seymour duncan hot stack stk j2?
Not quite, the hot stack has two coils stacked on top of each other. The model J has two coils beside each other, just like a Split P pickup, but inside a Jazz Bass pickup enclosure
@@OliverTobyn Hello Oliver, thanks for answering me friend, can you help me? In this video here: czcams.com/video/4Ti_7d-ZDKk/video.html the bassist is using a Seymour Duncan Hot Stack STKJ2, but I live in Brazil and here you can only find the Seymour Duncan SJB3 line, the pickups are similar ? do they have the same tones? Can I get the tone of this Gibson RD bass with the SJB3 or Fender Noiseless?, thanks!
@@gomes-fonseca Mh the SJB3 pickups are different, they are very loud, have a lot of output, but are cool pickups nonetheless. The STKJ2 are noiseless, and have a lower output compared to the SJB3. I've made a couple of videos on those ones as well, check them out!
so let me get this clear, the pickups wiring is in series because both sets are noiseless anyway right?
Yep, you can wire them either way, they're still noiseless
@@OliverTobyn kinda hate the scoop from parallel, so I'll go with series on mine! Thank you so much for all these videos!
@@enriquekikzdelapazbichain1126 yeah parallel mode is more similar to a traditional single coil Jazz bass pickup, whereas the series more is more like a split P pickup. You're welcome and thanks for watching!
@@OliverTobyn I am building a 35.5 scale P bass with a Jaguar Body... To play low low tunings on it, just got the relentless P and a Swamp ash body, it's gonna be nice! I am a P sound kinda guy and i want that modern extra long scale intonation capability with the P sound quality, it's gonna be good 😊 again thanks for all that you do man!
Model J all the way!
I have a model j in a pj setup 70's position. Might switch out the pot to 500k.
I just bought some 500k pots, as dimarzio recommends. Did you do it? Are you pleased with the results?
@@CulDorcha1 I did but went back as the p didn't sound right. Mine has volume, tone, 3way switch. If it was volume, volume, tone it might have worked. The 500k made the p pickup really bright.
Thanks for response. I will leave my Tony Franklin PJ as is, but attempt 500k with Jazz bass. Cheers.
@@CulDorcha1 same bass!
@@CulDorcha1 The Jazz bass is already bright. 250k pots are probably the best for it.
What do you preffer?
Hard to pick. The Model Js sound great the way they are with no extra tweaking (maybe a little), at least to my taste. The Ultra Jazz have a nice base sound which can be modelled into different things. I feel a good preamp is needed to bring out the full potential of these pickups
Model J. No brainer.