Yamaha Tenere 700 World Raid | First Impressions
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
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Got my leg over the Yamaha Tenere 700 World Raid thanks for Cully's Yamaha. Definitely a middleweight worthy of consideration. Love the addition of the big tanks and the steering dampener. A lot of people are going to be thankful for the suspension upgrade as well. Here are my thoughts overall.
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It's definately a great improvement over the standard T7, but essentially it cost as much as a KTM 890 R, Africa Twin 1100 or a Desert X. I don't think we will see many of them on the road.
no, it isn't
I love the looks but at 26k it is a bit of a bad joke if you ask me. Great video mate, hope the baby is going well!
Thanks mate, fam is doing well thanks💪
I bought the world raid, money wasn’t an issue and I just liked. After owning it for a while now I find it awesome, wouldn’t change anything 👍🏻
I'm starting a petition, Honda put the CB500X 500cc twin in the 300 Rally body, perfect "lightweight" dualie
Or at least the 450 single with more oil capacity. Unless I’m missing something, this is a no brainer.
@@bosoceansport2068 yeah I live in the states and to get to some spots where I ride I got to jump on an interstate or highway for a few exits and with the trucks all doing 70/75 a single just don't cut it
I think a 450-500 cc 150 kg twin will end up all the problem but the manufacturers want no happy end.
I'm in! This would go a long way to make the bike a unicorn.😎
I agree with you on the price point. I have a Tenere 660 and would love to own a T7 but like one of the other viewers mentioned, its now up there with KTM and Ducati. I do love the idea of the World Raid with the big 23 liter tank like my 660. So nice to fuel up and go and be less concerned about range.
Mine is really Great. Bought 4 months ago in NW Italy keeps the promises of the design. Range is more than 450 kms on blue roads. Light and well driveable in and off road in spite of its shape. The châssis and the forks call for additional 10 hp over the 74 it has. This is my only point.
I live in USA. World raid is out of question now and maybe two years from now. USA models are slated to be produced in Japan. That production line isn't running now. However I have a 2022 model T700. I got it early. It has taken most of a year to get all the suspension and other components together to bring it up to what I consider a competent RTW motorcycle. That is my opinion and many others differ. That's ok with me. A lot of time effort money and research went into my purchases. It is mine with the components tailored for me. That's what I want. To do that it has cost me as much as the motorcycle did or more and I do all my own work. You get a great base machine but kind of a generic weak suspension nut for average use it would be ok. For a good price, about 12,000USD. I added factory luggage, centerstand, radiator guard, rear rack on mine. These items should have been on the bike to start with except luggage. The Raid is slated to cost about 18,000 USD when it comes available. we've only gotten 4 batches of T700 sent here in what 4 years.. Sad. Sure there will be plenty of Honda Transalps when they come available, fully equipped from the factory. I would take a Raid, maybe sell or trade mine but I doubt it. Mine is mine. It is a competitive market with newer machines available for the same money which are as capable out of the box if not more so.
Really great review. I feel the same way about the prices, I paid 17k flat, ride away for my T7, and I thought that was about right.
Thanks mate
Nice one Solid! Totally agree, love the T7 and would buy one except for the ridiculous price. Hoping the Transalp will help Yammie to revise their pricing strategy. A basic “peoples champion” T7, I’m in. 😎 For now I continue to love my 300 Rally which is much better priced and just as capable be it a bit less aggressive 👍
Pricing of the world raid I can sort of understand, it has better parts so more premium and in the same ballpark as KTM 890/Desert X. You’d go ktm/Ducati for performance or Yamaha reliability. The stock T7 price creep has to be due to its market demographic, middle aged/aging buyers so have cash to buy an adv bike to drop off-road and latest klim suit. Compare the stock T7 to a MT09 SP which is 18k ride away, the MT09 sp is a lot more bike than a T7 even though different categories. MT09 sp has Ohlins shock, adjustable KYB front suspension, cruise control, 6 axis imu, amazing engine, probably the best value bike in that segment. The mt09 market likely a lot younger than most greying adv riders so have less money to spare which has kept the price competitive.
Solid, I still like the standard better. An Acerbis tank and a good bash plate and you're ready. My son only weighs 130 lbs (59k) so the suspension is not a problem for him. Also that twin tank takes another fuel pump (I believe) so another potential problem.
Last, the price. My son got his new in 2021 so at the original price. Yes, I understand costs and inflation but unless you are a hardcore T7 fan they have priced themselves just about out of the market IMO. People that want no electronic frills also expect no frill pricing.
Good report as always.
All great points mate. Price is the big stopper for me.
Vstrom 800DE for me. And my DR650 will always be forever bike.
Thanks for a great and honest review; As I am a short person, 5' 6" in the old money, no bloody way can I have a Tenere, I would but not going to happen. Talking about Factory Disappointments; Manufacturers FAIL to accommodate a wider range of people, very few have lower seat/bike options, in this modern age its a bloody failure; David....Adelaide/Kilburn.....Tiger 900GT Low & Scrambler.......
I would have to agree that Yamaha have pretty much priced this and the other T7 out from the everyday person. I have a CRF 300 Rally and a Mazda CX30 and a home loan and a gf and a 19 teenager so it’s good to dream. My next plan mostly revolves around retirement in 8 years a 2nd VW Krafter fit out and two CRF I. The back.
You had me excited about the dual gas tanks, after conversion it appears to be a 6 gallon tank, which is a big reason why I like KLR over the T7, .. and then I found out that the "**World** Raid" model isn't being sold **World**wide.
I just want a dual sport/adv bike that is 6-700cc and has a 6+ gallon guel tank stock.
KTM 690 or Husky 701 LR
@PeterR0035 or just KLR650 with a 6 gallon tank and a reliable engine.
Shit, even the CRF300L (and/or Rally) can have a 2nd tank in form of a Camel Tank.
Absolutely a masterpiece of equipment...well done 👍 Yamaha! In my opinion, $15k USD are quiet for this model, I have to check if we are gonna pay this price in PR. If it's more than that, too pricey. For a new updated bike new year, should be accessible for every motorcycle enthusiast. I know inflation and everything, raw materials but it doesn't have to be expensive. It will make us move to other direction. Honda is getting an outstanding response from the public with the new Transalp 750, and quite a good price. But there are different pockets so we have to settle for the best vike, and that doesn't means always the bigger price. Godspeed.
I’ve been on my new World Raid in Australia for two weeks and I’ve done 1200km. Compared to my original T7 its a heaps better bike. The weight balance is much better than the standard bike, the lower tank actually makes the bike feel smaller than the original. Suspension is alot better too. Yes it’s more expensive but you missed many of the upgrades Yamaha made to this bike compared to standard bike and to me it’s 100% worth it.
They are NOT 'upgrades', they are how the bike should have been in the first place! It's just a marketing ploy to get more money 💰 If you put anything else but 1 naked rider on the first original bike, the suspension would bottom out. That is NOT normal!
@@PeterR0035 whatever you reckon mate…Stay angry dude
@@occyman 🙂I'm happy mate, it's your money for an overpriced bike🙂
@@PeterR0035 lol.. poor men like you worry about small things.
Upgrading gas tanks is a nightmare with most bikes, the wider range and also better weather protection of the big tank is a big deal though it's a high cost for it. If you aren't a very solid bike mechanic, the dollars are well spent for what comes on this, including the suspension improvements. The costs add up fast with aftermarket.
not really - longer travel suspension and steering stabilizer were added only to compensate much heavier weight in front. With World Raid we got elephant in the room, stick with standard version if you want to go off-road.
So that is 21,784 canadian price not including tax no thanks . I love that bike i was thinking about till the price no thanks . You did a awesome on your review thanks !!
solid is gold.
Euro Spec bikes (standard and WR) have all had the catalytic converter in that position for a couple of years already, so there are a lot of bashplates available, not all of them fit with the wr fuel tanks though, so be aware of that.
At this moment there are 39 2nd hand T7’s for sale,starting from approx $15,000. Many with lots of accessories. No need to complain about high priced new bikes, just buy 2nd hand. The World Raid model has naturally succumbed to the usual disease, namely increased weight and a higher seat. Just what you don’t want for a desert crossing.
Yamaha Oz got way too Covid greedy when they decided to raise the Std T7 price and announce the WR price. I grabbed a 2nd hand std with $2k of accessories for $15k. Let's face it the warranty benefits when buying new don't really apply to a T7 because nothing will go wrong!
Man, how bout a new dual sport? Adv bikes are so overrated.
You need a big expensive bike to go down the urban jungle to get your latte! That's what 1200 GS owners tell me.
As always spledid review! Love your style & info!
@ that price no cruise control?? For me at that price kind of a deal breaker!?
Did they had info about after market cruise control???
I don't believe it comes with CC which was surprise for the price. Will double check with Yam tomorrow and let you no if otherwise.
Yeah, no cruise control. Still has a cable throttle.
Nice bike and nice Speedmaster 😉
Many owners say Standard T7 is top heavy. Is this new one with bigger tanks even more top heavy? Cheers
Didn't have a full tank so cannot say with authority. Felt the same as the standard with a 1/4 tank.
Next year we will meet with explorer and extreme models variations of T7
I have only seen 1 T700 since the bike came out, in the States where I live. It looks like a a great bike in both forms, but it must not have sold well here, or maybe just lack of availability.
Give us a T9 World Raid Yamaha!
It's so wide that it's leaning into off road cruiser rather than dirt basher.
It’s a nice one.
The price will be the thing that turns people away from this bike, I hope yamaha will update the pricing to a more competitive price
Still no world raids in Japan. No launch date…
Do the awesome eyebrows come attached to the hat😉
😅
Eyebrows this impressive are obviously extra 😉
World raid is 2k euros (here in Europe) more expensive than standard 2023 T7?
I mean...You can get and mount a LOT of goodies for 2k euros :)
Im in a market for a Tenere, but cannot decide between Standard T7, World Rally and WOrld Raid...
Standard T7---11500E
Rally Edition---13000
World Raid---13400
There is also an option for World Rally but at 15000E price tag its just a hard pass tho....
Would appritiate any input. :D
Two corrections: 1, The origianl T7 cost over $17K new, ride away, in 2020, in fact I paid $17,300 in September that year, it was never under $16K, unless they had some pre release special discount in Australia like they did in parts of Europe, though I don't remember that happening. The low 17K price was the norm until the world went a bit funny. And 2, Although this version has better suspension the original T7 does also have fully adjustable suspension, F&R, always did.
Now, with nearly 30K on my bike, would I upgrade it for the World Raid? No way, the standard bike is a gem and i'm keeping mine though at some stage I will have to put $$ into a suspension upgrade. If I were buying one new today,. which one would I get? Tough call.
We got the T7 in 2019 and as stated was sold at $15499 RRP www.yamaha-motor.com.au/discover/news-and-events/news/motorcycle/2019/march/tenere-700-arrival-confirmed and I was under the impression that the standard T7 didn’t have spring preload but I could be wrong on that one ☝️
@@chroniclesofsolid Sorry, my bad, standard T7 certainly doesn't have preload adjustment at the front. Seniors moment on my part. Carry on as you were with your great vids.
@MotoShaneGame No worries 😉 I can’t always be right and questions keep me on my game and honest 👍
King of the middleweights?😮
Don't know why they called it the world raid. It isn't available in North America.
Same 2 problems as earlier; too much weight too high. Without comparing to other bikes i wouldn't mind the World Raid. But... there are other models...
I notice the coolant reservoir is down behind the sump guard too... potentially a little bit vulnerable without a beefier bash plate?
Yup, definitely exposed there. In the Aussie bush a stick is going straight through that.
Is the seat comfier than the standard?i ride a standard once and really could stand the seat
Here in North Florida USA I have been to about ten different Yamaha dealerships in the last year I have yet to see even a single T7 here. (sad) I'm still riding my 15 year old KLR650 for trail riding. I did buy a '22 Yamaha MT09-SP last December. Yamaha should make a T9
Hey waiting for your review on honda translap 750. Take care 🙏
Noted 👍
Still no chain guide. Thrown chain and smashed cases ready and waiting.
25 grand??? Ok.. yeah nah.. off my list. Even the normal Tenere 700 at 20 grand is a rip off. Heaps of better bikes for 25 grand. Good video btw, I used to live in W.A and was spending more time having a squize at the places you was riding..I think you actually rode near my old place near Wanneroo rd via the Mirrabooka bus station. I kind of have a idea where you live now.. not that I want to stalk. I'm in the East Coast right now and have no plans on going back to Perth :D
Tenere 700 is not a LAMS approved bike so I wouldn't recommend one for a learner
welcome to the aussie 60c to the USD economy...but at 26k you esentially have 5 used dr650s
Smart thing to do is to buy slightly used Tenere from someone who overpayed for World Raid.
Over specced for 689cc
I can see debri being flicked up by the front wheel and puncturing that coolant overflow bottle in the position its located in. Not a very Good design at all.
Can’t believe it…. The standard bike costs more than the Honda transalp!
Yes it's built in China and yes it has a reputation for reliability issues, but it's a sad day when a 790R is cheaper than a T7...
Agreed
Thr pricing is delusional. Rather throw that cash at a AT, or a transalp.
The world raid is literally a CRF1100 with same travel, 6kgs less weight, a higher seat, with a load less power and torque.
Only advantage is the ABS button.
over 180 cm is definitely not average height
It looks like Japanese motorcycle brand have gone a bit out there lately. Not only them but I got a feeling that this whole covid situations has damaged peoples brains. Especially Honda, the quality of the components has gone way down and price way up. Perfect example new Transalp. Motorcycle with road bias yet using tubed tires, shitty rubber brake lines, non adjustable windscreen, not even hand guards.... yet asking price is in UK £ 10 000.... I mean wtf
Just to show some bike pricing in UK
Tenere 700 world raid = £12 000
F850GS Adventure = £12 000
Tuareg 660 = £ 10 000
890 Adventure (base model) = £ 12 000
Steering dampener 😄
I always bugger that one up!🙃
We should all just say “stabilizer”, because we all get the other wrong 😂
What's with the prison-like knuckle tattoos at 0:30?
Sexy Wr700...goood! Sorry, only 75 Hp... no goood 2023
Its not a difficult question: 1 of 100 people need more suspension or fuel. O yes, and the posers 🤪
To heavy compare with the standard
500km outta 23lit tank on a T7... LOL
way over priced!