Is the Ford Raptor R the MOST Insane Supertruck? We Tow & Hit the Ice, Mud & Water to Find Out!
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- čas přidán 30. 11. 2022
- We take the 2023 Ford Raptor R to our test course to find out if this supertruck is really better than its main rival from Ram. With a new 5.2-liter supercharged V8 this Ford Raptor R packs 700 horsepower of ground pounding power, the most ponies Ford has ever put in a Raptor.
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No left hook ? On the raptor
Learn how to drive
Screw 1990 Depressing Grey or Death Black interior colors from 1990.
One of the best raptor R reviews
My favorite part of these videos is the actual offroad testing.
So few reviews of off-road oriented trucks include muddy, rutted, snow and ice covered trails, like we encounter here in Canada so thank you guys for doing what nobody else is willing to do with a $150k truck! Cheers boys!
Those prices are just stupid!
You Ain't Got No Reason To Pay $150,000 In A Truck Like That.
Just thank your worthless democrat.
@@brandonmcfarland5200 people with money will buy it
@@JamesThomas-dn6ee And that’s the problem😒, just because the 15% of the country that can afford it will buy it means that prices for hard working Americans that could possibly save up for their favorite truck won’t be able to get one because prices keep rising and rising far beyond how much wages are rising………it’s not even close!😕🤷🏽♂️
Robert M You mean to tell me you don’t have an extra 150k plus mark ups and taxes so probably 180k to throw around on a Baja truck that 99% of them will never see the Baja desert but just be driven around as status symbols 🫣…….yeah the prices of all these new cool toys are just stupid unfortunately. 🤦🏽♂️
Considering all the power upgrades I'm extremely disappointed that they didn't upgrade the brakes.
like the TRX, they are very limited on the size of Brakes they can use due to the small diameter wheels. If you look on You Tube you will see a TRX Brembo upgrade BUT.........has to be out fitted with bigger wheels and skinnier tires to fit the Brake rotors/calipers in wheel
Great point!
@@twinturbo3470 and the downside to that is worse off-road performance, so it's generally a bad trade. The stock brakes are adequate if you are driving what you can see.
Same with the teslas. They upgrade the power to make it supercar level at the lower speeds but because it regenerative breaks they slack so all models have the same brakes no matter how much more money you spend. Usually it doesn't matter unless you hit the track but shoot bro if my supertruck or Tesla cost 150k I just might! Then again, it is primarily an offroading vehicle, so is there an offroading disadvantage to bigger brakes?
17" wheels murder the ability for actual brakes...my 14 SVT has better brakes than my 17 did...and with MORE power you NEED to at least offer a 20" wheel package so that you can have real brakes.
At least the TRX has 18" wheels and I LOVE my Brakes compared to the Raptor.
I love it. Ppl asked for an over the top super off rd performance Raptor..& Ford trucks DELIVERED! Thankyou Ford!
I think someone that’s doing this test should put 37” on the TRX or 35” on the RaptorR and then race them. 37” tire add a lot of weight
True, I was thinking the same thing. That's not an insignificant detail. It also takes more torque to turn a bigger diameter tire/wheel. Definitely important in acceleration and deceleration. Both should have same setup in order to do an accurate test
Steve & Howard thanks for this fun review & also for putting it up on ramp ! I've been wanting to add a transmission & cat. shield to my 2022 5.0 XL FX4 SC 6.5 box & after seeing this I'm going after this steel OEM part. Hey you guys got time for a Moab trip with this machine ! Would love watching that episode.
Best part of the video besides the hydroline is the underneath part. Always nice to see what's underneath the skin. Thanks TK!
There is a secondary point to this discussion - the regular Raptor is actually surprisingly fuel efficient, and with a 140 liter tank it has really good range for overlanding. The V8 isn't able to do that. Then again, it's not built for that either ;) I'll be keeping my 2020 I reckon - an upgrade to a 2023 with 37's is tempting but not tempting enough to make me swap!
The HO 3.5 is really the ideal engine for the Raptor, with plenty of low end torque, great fuel efficiency, and lighter weight up front so you don't pogo as much on hard hits off-road. The TRX is a lot slower bajaing because they added a lot of weight up front without beefing up the shocks.
@@T4nkcommander Raptor R is way over priced and not a massive improvement in performance over the HO 3.5 yet you give up a lot to get the V8. For $50-80k more when you consider ADM on R over standard raptor and 5mpg hit and forced premium fuel...not worth it.
i say the same. with a tune a regular raptor is damn near putting out similar power with less weight. The way i see it. if you want power and speed buy a mustang. if you want a fast truck buy a v8 f150 awd starting at 35k single cab short bed or more for a cheap or loaded 4 dr. I tell people for under 100k you can build either a 8 sec 1/4 mile street truck or with some offroad suspension still under 90k including mods. Coyote v8 can handle up to 1200whp or a good daily 950whp with boost and a fuel system. no heads no cams no pistons no rods. stock sealed motor. go built motor and Coyote can handle up to 2000hp. Youwant the fast truck build a fast f150 or mustamg gt for 55k 60k awd f150+ turbo or supercharger
I don’t think people know how hard I’ve makes mudding. It really impressed me through that deep one!
Truck King finally make a come back with a great TRUCK content, with the greatest TRUCK, thank you guys... Good luck with the snow in the meantime, all the best.
What a beautiful truck. Don’t have the money but if I did, I would spring for the R just to say I had one. Sweet sounds of a Supercharged V8 is the best sound a vehicle can make. Keep up the good work. Oh btw, I didn’t see a jump? Let’s go!!!
Nope, the best sound a vehicle can make is when you hear all 4 bbl's of a carburetor open at full throttle. There's nothing like it.
@@Blueknight1960 All 4 bbl’s? How about dual 4 bbls. The old Pontiac 421 Super Duty was something to hear.
Great video and what a great truck. I have the TRX and love it but would like to add this the the garage! Price is crazy but compared to a 2023 TRX equally loaded not out of range.
The truck price is one thing, I daily drive mine, so the fuel bill passes the payment right up!
Excellent video review! Pushing through that ice was amazing and bombing down the farm road was the best!!
My daughter has a 21 Raptor she uses for hot shot in Alberta. Those roads look like a lot of the oilfield and mining roads she delivers on. 225,000 plus kms. of trouble free use so far. The 3.5 Ecoboost is more than enough in that truck.
Agree I’ve been in a tremor 2021 and it tackles All that we do I can’t even imagine what the Raptor R can do
The 3.5 really is the ideal engine for the Raptor IMO. Great low end torque, solid fuel efficiency, and lighter weight meaning better high-speed off-road performance. The shocks still pogo bad enough up front as is, I have seen TRXs in action and it completely kills their momentum.
I'm a bit envious of the roads she gets to travel as my favorite (and only close) off-road track just closed down.
@@T4nkcommander It's a neat job for sure. She has driven from Houston to the Arctic ocean at Inuvik. The truck is amazing.
Always fun to watch these extreme trucks. Going out to get my lotto tickets.
Never disappointed on this channel!!!!!…… thanks guys💪💪💪
Great video !!! I did have a question, I was wondering with all the tech in the new vehicles which truck in your opinion does best in cold weather situations. Specifically starting and running -15 degrees Celsius.
I see a new video from Truck King, I know I won't be disappointed. Greetings from Poland
We are lucky to be alive in the golden age of ICE vehicles. Re: towing, you’ve really got to put weight distribution bars on with that much weight. You could keep it close to level and tow 7k safely. You covered that in the video but you should have had those on! Great video, thanks!
No, we passed the golden years of the internal combustion engine back in the late 60's to early 70's. Yes they have some good engines these days but you damn near need a collage degree to work on them because of all the electronics.
Also more of a drop hitch then what they used. 4-6" drop REALLY will more gooder then that 1-1.5" drop they used. But hey, they Canadian...
Great review! Thank you Guys 👍
Awesome video info guys!
And the Oscar goes, TRUCK 👑
Great review, I love how you put these trucks to the test and don't worry about every little think that might happen. But this is obviously a big toy. I don't feel like it is something people are wondering if they should buy it, if you can you will - price is no object kind of decision. It's a pissing match between Ford and RAM and they just charge so much to cover their costs of building something nobody can really afford to prove a point. That's all good, But what I would do is buy a used Raptor from a few years ago and get 80-90% of the fun with less than half the money.
Just got my raptor 2022 37, 5 months ago, I’ll get raptor R in the next 2-3 years. Love it!
One thing I can recommend is when you have an amazing engine like that don't play music over the best part.. that exhaust note! The intro with the truck would have rocked if it was just that V8 screaming
Always a great review- love Howards perspective! When you reviewed the regular raptor you seemed impressed with its towing and how little it compromised. Would you say its a better tow vehicle than the R?
Its not better than the super cool ford transit e350 van.
Definitely an awesome truck! I'll stick with my '14 Raptor 6.2L for now. Half the cost and just as much fun.
how would you know by not driving it?
So...Love the Raptor..Love the V6..love the V8...Love FORD..Owned a 2013 Raptor. Drove it 113K miles...zero issues..until a patrol car T-Boned me.....Mudding? Awesome..will that truck ever be clean again underneath after mudding? Damn...Ordering the 2024 R in September...Gotta Love FORD!
I've got a '22 37 Raptor with the stage 1 Whipple from Ken Grody down here in SoCal and i love it but i have to admit, i am taking it back at the end of the year and getting that Raptor R. This is my 4th off road truck, from old team chase truck's to a tacoma 7X fully caged and my 37 kills them FAR and AWAY but i gotta have that V8. Love your guys review, great job!
Good job old man for getting Steve dirty 🤣.. finally a video showing what the Raptor R is all about .. for the V8 take my money ..
Awesome truck. Awesome video. Good job guys!!👍👍
Great Video! Beast of a Truck!
Nice review..I’m still gonna be holding on my 2021 raptor v6 it’s my weekend toy hauler
Turn the tires towards the wall of the ditch. Of course its going to just slide.
Ikr???
Right on!! Howard drives it like a Boss !!...The Elmer course isn't easy..Awesome testing grounds!! Enjoy the day guys!!
"The back end squats and it looks funny" hilarious because some people want this look with the truck unloaded lmao
Man as a ford man currently l drive 2017 ford 150 but c certainly l plan to buy the raptor you have just driven and that's the first time l come across the mosyer raptor. Lots of thanks .
I love how the old man uses the mirrors and his neck when backing up instead of the 12 cameras available to him! lol.
I wouldn’t mind paying for that monster! Love it!!
Great video you showed how most would use this Raptor.
Nicely done Ford. Thank you RAM for pushing the limits for others to follow. Now will a mfr make it affordable. TRX and Raptor-R are collectibles.
Ron, in all fairness, Ford's been pushing the envelope for decades. Dodge wasn't around when the F150 lightning came out. Dodge wasn't around when ford came out with the Original raptor Over a decade ago. The TRX is an insanely capable and quick vehicle. I think if the raptor never existed, neither would the TRX. Just my opinion.
@@RidersInBlack as a TRX owner I believe you sir are correct. You assessment is spot on. Too many people get caught up in the weeds of bickering due to brand loyalty. I for one am glad these exist and I can tell you the Ram is a blast and the Raptor is the reason.
@@RidersInBlack All true. I like that RAM put that Demon/RedEye engine in everything. I really like the V8in the Raptor-R, V6 not so much . Thanks 👍
@@PatriotJK1776 so glad you enjoy your truck brother! One day I'll have the pleasure of taking one out for a spin. If I can get my hands on one! Lol
Ford had a big displacement V8 in an off-road truck. They decided to push the Ecoboost and made it the only option for the Raptor. A V6 in an off road truck makes a lot more sense due to the lighter weight but let's be honest most Raptors and TRX's will not even see a washboard road let alone go off road.
I may be old by the time i hit the lottery but i will one day get a Raptor such an amazing truck and thank you both for taking the time to make this and have fun doing it stay blessed and humble 👊🙏😎
I hope you get that Ford Raptor bro 😎
@@BruceDragon-sf1tr Thanks my friend I hope you have or will have everything you ever wanted we will pray for you either way I appreciate your kind thought's💪🔥🙏😎
Awesome video 👏👏👏👏
I would love a truck like this parked in my driveway, but I'll settle for a regular f150 with the Lariat 502a package as that what I have already
But an awesome review truck King
Awesome video fellas. Merry Christmas
Same to you
Great videos everyone. One thing to note as different is definitely the 37" Tires but it comes with 2WD compatible!? Yes, that's right the TRX is only offered in AWD locked all time
What's the problem?
@@chadd587 Towing. A 2WD setting is drastically preferable when you’re towing.
@@sethrich5998 Take the hitch off. Problem solved.
Bad ass truck for sure! I would never be able to beat a truck this expensive off-road though. I’ve got dirt bikes and side by sides for that.
I have a black 2017 I special ordered. I absolutely love my truck but it can be miserable sometimes trying to keep it looking nice while also having fun with it
Crazy how well the TRX did with the 0 to 60 with 7000lbs compared to the Raptor R but then again those hellcat engines have a lot of bottom end where the Raptor R is more top end
Peak torque comes in lower on the Ford.
@@AK_Ray don't you think if the predator engine had more torque it would have a better 0 to 60 time than the TRX?
@@dor1tomcswagger69 I mean the obvious answer is yes, of course it would but as it sits with only a 10 lb ft difference between the two you have to look at other variables. I think if they would have made it a little more equal, by putting the raptor in 4A, it would have been pretty much equal.
@@dor1tomcswagger69 but then again maybe not, I mean the raptor is pushing way more tire mass. I've never driven either so all I can really speak for is from what I've seen on videos like this and reading the spec sheets
@@dor1tomcswagger69 it on 37 inch tires
Always great videos thanks for going over all the aspects of the vehicles. Raptor R is sick!!!
Nice review keep up the good work truck king
Thanks, will do!
That thing is bad ass... Sounds proper and did not slow for any of the obstacles. I would pay what they are asking for sure.
Interesting the auto park feature when booking up. How did it know you were perfectly aligned and didn’t need to adjust?
What was it booking? A hotel room?
I have my Raptor R on order. I was told it is built & waiting on a fuel system update. I should have the truck in hand by the 1st week of Jan. I’ll just drive my 2022 Raptor until it arrives!
I just keep getting emails from Ford saying still waiting on parts.
Nice! Love the V8 rumble! Totally impractical for truck needs but soooo much fun!
I’m a v8 lover for sure and I have no doubt it will never end, where they are people to buy something there will be someone to make it.
Most exspensive truck and ford still can give u a rear-end with no rust. Anyways id save my money buy a new truck build it buy a beater like an older tacoma drive that until the build is done and then build the tacoma and still have money left over after the ridiculous mark up every raptor will get
I own a tacoma and have driven several raptors... you're comparing apples and giraffes.
to modify a tacoma to perform like a raptor it would probably be cheaper to just buy a raptor LOL
Awesome video, just one question which one has to detail the truck before you give it back 😂
14:55 only using the mirrors, like a boss.
Bad ass truck for sure. I would take any of them. Nothing better then truck talk with your dad. I’ll keep saying they. As much as I love my dad , I never got a chance to talk trucks and cars.
I love Raptors, but that’s an absurd price. Just get a F150 tremor with a 5.0L and put a Whipple on it.
Then you’d have a Tremor with more power, but not the offroad prowess this has.
@@ALMX5DP I no but how many people are actually going to off-road a Raptor R hard? Not to many I’d be willing to guess.
@@Matts000 same could be said of a Tremor no? I’m perfectly happy with my base F-150 5.0 4wd, not even an FX4. But I’d still rock a Raptor R if given the opportunity, can’t deny the cool factor.
@@ALMX5DP that’s true the street presence would be insane, there’s no denying that. Lol good point.
@@ALMX5DP a regular f150 4x4 has plenty of off road prowess. With good tires. If you know how to drive can go through everything off road on this video no problem. Which is all you need in a daily driver anyway.
Look at how much rust underneath already, Jeeez
last time i asked about the TRX with one dealer in Toronto, the price is close 15k for 2022 model. So the pirce to Raprtor R is same
For your magnet test on the skid plates. Magnets will not stick to 300 series stainless steel. Not saying that the raptor's front skid plate isn't aluminum, just something to know if you are checking to see if it is steel.
I love my 2022 6.2 trail boss custom.
New subscriber here from dawson creek bc Canada, this is a sweet truck then you hit the price and think I need to be in the patch to own this thing lol. Great work guys.
Welcome!
@@TruckKing ty my only truck is a 85 dodge shortbox pickup, I have a few cats tho lol.
Nothing beats a v8 sound!! You keep you EV
I’ve owned three raptors and sadly this truck is way to expensive!! I will keep my 2019 802 A package with recaro seats and tech package….. raptor is king though
DAMN!! My 2007 chevy tahoe 5.3L tows 8200 max....love that they put the V8 back in the Raptor though! Probably would buy that over the TRX...
I do have the money, and a Gen 2 Raptor. Not really interested in the R. Like you mentioned it just doesn't offer a significantly better experience over the regular Raptor. I live near a desert playground (Northern NV) and get to open mine up very regularly. I would do more suspension before more power as the 450 HP is not limiting things. On towing, there is a case to be made in towing a travel trailer so you can go set up a base camp near the trails, dunes, beach, etc. you want to run. I used a true tow WDH/Leveling hitch with a 5k lb travel trailer, got the truck level and hit the road. Tows like a champ, 400 mile range, 70+ mph uphill passing slow traffic. Get to the campsite, unhook the trailer, air down and hit the dunes. It'll never be an HD tow pig but it does tow well if you just level it.
If i had the money it would be a class A towing a 392 Jeep thing . or a Bronco R .
@@rodgood I've actually thought about just selling the Raptor, picking up an F250 Tremor and a side by side. ;)
Spitting facts. Nobody mentioning the added weight of the predator, which makes the front end pogo even worse
@@T4nkcommander That's been the issue with the TRX as well. A friend of mine sold his Gen2 raptor for one and said he loves it on the street but the weight in the front makes it not nearly as good on trail.
@@bigslacker666 I was saying the TRX would be worse off-road way before it came out for exactly that reason. Sure enough, seen it many times in person and on CZcams - TRX can't keep up off-road because of the weight and relatively small shocks.
CANT WAIT FOR YOU GUYS TO REALLY TEST THE TREMOR MAVERICK
I'm a GM guy but I have to say this has my attention. I won't get out of retirement to afford $110,000.
A Fantastic job your dad did driving the Raptor R. But for the money if I could afford a new truck I would go for the Ram Power wagon and if I hit the lottery I would go for the TRX!
He was clueless in the ruts!!
Get a Ford or Chevy, Dodge trucks are junk after 6 years
great show
Proper assessment sirs
best real testing!!
I think something that would look good on the Raptor would be a ram bar but Ford and a tire carrier in the back with 2 tire like a hummer and remove spare tire underneath
bfg at k03s are terrible mud tires in the sticky stuff. been stuck deep in the east texas forests a few times and i switched to koyo mts. havent been stuck since switching to mts and ive been through much much worse stuff since then
You rock your dad's world !!!!,😂😂😂 Funny guy son .
People are living in fantasy land if they think gas and diesel vehicles will go away. Reality will sink in at some point that it's just not possible. Our economy will collapse if we keep pushing this insanity. EVs have their place,but it's not goin to happen overnight. I see no reason why we can't have both. Most people don't like this shoved down our throats.Just my opinion. Love the Raptor R. I wish I could afford one. I was glad that Ram built the TRX because I figured Ford would counter it by putting in a V8. I would like to see the godzilla in it though. Ford needs to put that pushrod engine in more of their vehicles,not just the super dutys. Learn from gm with the LS. Flood the market with this engine so they'll be less expensive to purchase in the future.
Did yous air down at all, or were yous at full road psi for all the tests?
truly a golden era for big power and capability. the modern power era in American V8s to me goes back to the Terminator mustangs. the Cyclone and Lightning to a lesser extent. the 80s and 90s were mostly a lull for mainstream big power from the factory.
Good job boss thought never get that out there 😢
Thanks Steve and Howard. I like the Ford but would buy the TRX at the lower price.
Yes.....that will be how it is with many folks.
Not only that, the TRX beers the R from a dig
@@joemomma707
True.... but the RaptorR is pulling those 37's vs 35 inch tires. It makes a bit of difference. The TRX does have nice lower end torque.
@@joemomma707 but on a roll it pulls away from trx . Mine is kn order and I worked my ass off to get it with help from wifey but I will admit it will never see anything like that in its life 🤷🏾
@@randyjr3479
It cost more
No launch control
Smaller engine
Less hp
Less tq
The only thing it has going for it is that it looks better.
It barely beats the TRX from a roll. Barley.
Ford fucked up
They should have made sure the R murders the the TRX. Just like Dodge made sure the TRX would murder the Raptor, and it did. That’s why Dodge clowned Ford by having the TRX eat a Raptor. Ford had time to make it happen but failed. And what’s up with all the v8 graphics videos it should have always been a fuckin v8.
Where I'm from, some Creeks and muddy ruts are already Frozen solid
Best channel on CZcams
Wow wow awesome RapTR 👍
When are you testing the 0-60 MPH time for the Ford Lightning while towing this 7k lb. trailer. And just curious why you did this test on a curved road?
We will be doing the Lightning 0-60 in mid-January. As for the curved road - that day it was where we got the strongest WiFi signal.
Thank u for the proper testing guys 😂
Great 👍 review and show ! Lol my regular F150 with a 5.0 V8 can tackle most terrain but she would definitely have it's limits compared to the Raptor .
Off road a regular F150 doesn't compete with the Tremor let alone a Raptor R.
@@davidporter7051 calm down
@@leonseed4464 please post a logical reply.
@@davidporter7051 kind of hard seeing as you think fords trim lines offer that much of an advantage off road an f150 with a 5.0 is just fine and will have no issue keeping up with a tremor as for the R well that’s what boost is for also what 5.0 engines like but go on
@@leonseed4464 you really posted nonsense. And no the F150 stinks off road. TFL and Edmunds demonstrated how inadequate the regular F150 is.
That’s a nice trail for that.
A very cool truck 🚚
Nice guys these two. Dad says, “everything begins, everything ends” (referring to ICE engines). That said, these two need to end dinner time early. Damn. Good review.
Howie, you're great, you remind me of my dad in the best possible way. More videos where Steve giggles like a giddy schoolgirl!
The launch control on the trx is what makes it so quick
$110k for an f150? That's insane. No one is going to be buying that and then dare to take it in mud. I'd like to see this channel have this raptor or trx go off road and then have a base model ram or f150 with some aggressive tires on and see how it compares. Whether all these cameras and features and fancy color combinations make a difference. An $80k difference that is
I think it's a bargain (admittedly I am not in the market for a super truck) - if you were to attempt to build one of these from a stock F150 you would likely spend upwards of $200K and have a hatchet job of a truck when done. This thing is insane and completely drivable, it would probably go 150K miles before needing major service (assuming you don't go crazy off road).
you can punch a Ram 1500 5.7 Limited over 6 figures, a TRX seems like a bargain. Same with the F-150; it's not hard to get a Limited that high.
edit: i know this because a hockey buddy was in a motorcycle wreck and used his insurance money to buy a Ram Limited, when he said the price I thought he got a TRX, he did not.
@hissinggoose right, but all I'm saying is I drive a 17 big horn I bought for 23k. I have Goodyear wranglers on them and while I don't do extreme off roading, I've never worried about snow or the muddy road we live on after it rains. Just curious to see how it would stack up on a course they took this truck through.
Its all SALE HYPE. Its all bs. A base truck 4x4 with good tires right driver is just as capable. All these special off road packages are grossly overrated and stupidly overpriced. Its for rich kids who shouldn't have $$$ they have, to make it easier for them to drive off road bc they can't otherwise, and as status symbol.
110K is for a TRX
Woah thing just started crab 🦀 walking
The consumers need to stop playing the dealer markup game. After a month or two when dealers realize consumers wont purchase markup vehicles they will sell at msrp or less. The market controls prices!🤷🏽♂️
except they are all limited in production numbers. Did the Ford GT go down or up up up in every generation?
great video and feedback. So true ...V8 is V8
The best truck channel on CZcams hands down.
Like the other f150's that axel gets rusty as shit pretty quick.
I’m glad I’m not the only who noticed that. For the price that should not be happening. My TRX doesn’t look like that and I’ve had it a year and a half. I’ve took it off road many times, never had rust. They should try to remedy that regardless if it has no effect on anything, it looks like crap.
Raptor R the R stands for rust
Beautiful 🤩👊