Genesis: Worst to Best Albums
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- Happy Valentine's Day (if that's your thing). As a love letter to my favourite band, here's my Worst to Best of Genesis Albums!
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Dat "Up" vinyl
I would go
1 A Trick of the Tail
2 Wind and Wuthering
3 Foxtrot
4 Selling England
5 And then there were three
6 Nursery Cryme
7 Abacab
8 Genesis
9 Invisible Touch
10 Duke
I would go with (top 4 or so change)
1. Wind & Wuthering (would have been all time favorite: take out Special Way for Please Don't Touch, than re sequence)
2. Selling England By The Pound
3. Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
4. A Trick Of The Tail
5. Foxtrot
6. Nursery Cryme
7. Trespass
Big drop in quality for remainder
8. And Than There Were Three
9. Genesis (Shapes)
10. Invisible Touch
@Kitten Care, love the idea of Please Don't Touch on Wind and Wuthering. My list is similar, with Selling England first.
Not Up. Drop is its name not title.
Not Up
I just starting getting into this band and oh boy, is it an amazing journey.
Same, never heard anything like it
I bought my first Genesis album, Duke (on vinyl) after hearing "Turn It On Again" and "Misunderstanding" back in the day, went backwards and then forward.
Well, enjoy it, because it will change your life. I started listening to Genesis when I was 14 ( 'Mama', my first), I'm 51 now, a professional drummer and teacher, and still loving their music.
I’d advise anyone to watch the bataclan show from 1973 that’s recently been restored to 4k, it’s on CZcams and it is fantastic, it’s the best restoration job I’ve ever seen on a Genesis vid.
I actually LOVE 'Get 'em out by Friday', it's so underrated. Also really dig Nursery Cryme.
The version of "Get 'Em Out By Friday" on the live album is excellent and always satisfying (to👍this guy👍)
"Genesis never had a problem being accessible"
That is why they are the greatest. They blend complexity with simplicity - they write ROCK SONGS.
BUT COOLER!
*Genesis never had a problem being accessible*
You are saying this talking about From Genesis to Revelation - everybody was playing accessible music in the 60s (Pink Floyd).
You are also saying about the same album that the typical elements for the band’s music (odd time signatures, etc) _are gone._ Those elements were not there _yet._ They were to be incorporated into their music … later.
I am watching your body language too. After seeing your ranking of the Gentle Giant albums (and others) I can say that I have never seen this much hands on hips and hands crossed over chest…
I have always liked all of the genesis erears. Genesis first and foremost were song writers. People forget that by about 1980 prog rock was dead. They managed to turn things around to make more simple songs and that proves how clever they were. As terrible as it may seem to some but I think invisible touch is right up there with foxtrot sorry
"When Peter Gabriel left the band in 1975 I was concerned..." How old are you?
Michael Katits 🤦🏻♂️ right lol
Right??? This is the guy you cant believe is on your team, but he is so you roll with it and call it compassion 😁👍✌
Fantasizing that he was alive when Gabriel left. How weird is that?
i think he just means he was concerned while listening through their back catalogue for the first time.
What's the problem, I recall when he left and I was more then concerned
Selling England by the Pound is my favorite Genesis album, also.
There's hardly a bad moment on Trick of the Tail.
Even "Robbery Assault & Battery" which is imo the least good of the album is still a really fun track to listen to and has its own moment of musical brilliance being the 1m30 instrumental bridge
While robbery, assault and battery is really cool, the keyboard solo is annoying and redundant. It's the one let down moment for me considering how much I adore Tony Banks's playing and writing
The title track is the best part
@@colefortier the keyboard solo is like the coolest part of the song, mate...
@@lerespect3053 I enjoy robbery more than squonk. I think the best tracks are entangled, ripples and los endos.
"and then there were three" is their most underrated album in my opinion.
Yup- first song is in 10/8 I think just to fuck with the record execs. about whom the song is...
It's ok , definitely not as good as their previous work ..
And it started to pull women in with " follow you " so it spoiled them on the idea of pop , the mentality of working less while getting more success, more money with easier work.
That's why I hate that album , culturally.
I think so
Nope. It's correctly rated. Generally uninspired and lacks a clear direction. Lack of confidence as a three piece. Duke was their redemption.
Yessss
I’ll take “Abacab” as a song over the entirety of “We Can’t Dance” or “Calling All Stations”, personally.
Honestly, in spite of its rather uniform sound, I still find _Calling All Stations_ more interesting than a lot of their '80s albums. Maybe because there's no attempt at an overt commercial hit on it. And, it must be said, Ray Wilson does sound a bit like a young Peter Gabriel.
@@ComeOnIsSuchAJoy I also liked Calling all Stations, I was tired of pop Genesis.
Man On The Corner is another underrated song. I love how ambient and atmospheric the song is.
Totally agree
Favorite Group is Genesis, favorite Song is Cinema Show, listened to that since 1973, I get emotional.
I agree with you on both counts.
Great list. I listened Firth of Fifth every day for a year, never got tired of it.
Firth...great piano solo...I play it once a month so as not to forget it
FoF is simply phenomenal. End of story, no question!
An absolute masterpiece. Every single one of them were at their best. The piano, synths, and guitar solos are out of this world, as the drumming.
I have been doing it for almost 41 years if I don't badly recall
My top 10:
1 - Selling England By The Pound
2 - The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
3 - Foxtrot
4 - Nursery Cryme
5 - A Trick of the Tail
6 - Wind & Wuthering
7 - Trespasss
8 - Duke
9 - And Then There Were Three
10 - Genesis
I concur. Great minds....
Nah.
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
ABACAB
Selling England by the Pound
...And Then There Were Three...
Duke
Tresspass
Genesis to Revelation
A Trick of the Tail
Wind & Wuthering
Foxtrot
Nursery Cryme
Not a top 10, that's all I have so far.
I totally agree!
Take the first four, and that‘s it.
Foxtrot
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway album is by a mile my favorite.
ron schraper The Lamb is clearly way out of your league Ron. Try focusing on the quality of the tracks.
@ron schraper Agreed, to an extent. Were tracks like "The Grand Parade of Lifeless Packaging," "Hairless Heart," and "Ravine" really needed? I do dig "Riding the Scree," though.
@@ComeOnIsSuchAJoy Hairless Heart are one of the best tf
@@ComeOnIsSuchAJoy You dont like grand parade? Are you crazy?
Same here. I've played it to death over the years. So many great pieces of music. Gabriel's playing with words is the icing on the cake.
Actually Tony wrote the main chord progression on Hold On My Heart. And a great track it is. Totally wrong thinking Phil is the only one who moved to the more pop side.
Anthony Gargano He didn't. It was Banks and Rutherford that introduced the more commercial side.
Tony had a lot of involvement, probably more than he's given credit for.
@@semajttam exactly, what a lot of people dont get is that Mike and especially Tony were always the leaders as far as the band's direction.
@@kennethlund9825 You know what cements the fact Collins isnt a sell out? He wanted to do Suppers Ready to celebrate its 20th anniversary in 1992. Doubt his voice wouldve held up but they could've dropped the key....Banks and Rutherford voted him down. Heres the drummer wanting to play all that 9/8 stuff again....in the early 90s.
Gabriel went pop too.
Trespass deserves to be a lot higher if you ask me
Definitely agree! I love every song! Definitely better than duke. I love duke too, but trespass is better.
yep agree
Metalosis Maligna, it was the first change for the band and didn’t really ring any big bells !! Failed to sell, no one like it ..munch.
Couple of goods on it.
Michael Fiordimondo, why are comparing album nr 10’years later in a massively change band, trespass to Duke? R u kidding?
Did you miss Genesis in between ? I presume you haven’t heard “a trick of the tail !?”
You might as well said trespass and calling all stations for such a extreme different & diverse Period of the band’s output ! V strange...
Its a great album.
I don't agree with Abacab - I actually like No Reply at all, Keep it dark and man in the corner.
Yeah but Who dunnit is close to the worst song written and performed by anyone, let alone Genesis
@@frankmachin5438 a buddy and I went to see the 07 reunion concert, I kept teasing him that i was disappointed they didn't do Who dunnit...lol, that song pisses him off!
@@frankmachin5438 for me, I Cant Dance is way worse.
AlwaysaMystery Yes I can see why you say so...
Personally its my favorite of their 80s albums. I love how fuzzy, hard, and direct the sound is with the synths and drumming. The songs, excluding Who Dunnit?, are all good to great. Dodo is one of my favorites because of how shamelessly weird and synthy it is.
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway is my favorite album of all time, so...
Mine too Rich. I love it as much now as when I first heard it in the late 70's.
Abacab worse than Calling all stations and Genesis to revelation? Surely not!?
Yes, this guys is an idiot
@@juliosanchez95 You can't call people idiots because they have different musical tastes
@@cristauxfeur2560 well, you must say bad choices. But this guy haven't idea when put the comparisions in between albums.
It's a good boy with a poor musical ideas.
julio Sanchez he is a moron. He has embarrassed himself. "Get up and go aspects" ....makes NO sense. Much like the rest of this drivel. Cheers.
I love abacab calling all stations that a all-time worse this guy I do not know his music and I would not take any of his advice it's him and another guy that don't have good taste in music at all
2 days ago, I heard Steve Hackett preform Fountain of Salmacis live. Man. That was freaking epic. I've always loved that song, but hearing it live. Damn.
When Steve Hackett left he took the band's musical identity/direction with him. Genesis became an entirely different band after that.
Yeah, but I’m my opinion, the pop stuff still sounds great and it’s completely different from the prog .
Cul-de-sac and Man of Our Times are awesome! Heathaze is unique and dreamy and I prefer those Duke tracks to Misunderstanding any day.
Selling England By The Pound is one my all time favourite albums..a Progressive Rock Masterpiece!
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2112 is the prog masterpiece
I prefer foxtrot
Their best. Just an opinion
I have a great love for 'And Then There Were Three'. For me something that characterises the album is that it's much better when you listen to it than you remember it being. I thought that was just me, but when the Tabletop Genesis podcast covered it, the same thing happened. In the introduction, they all professed to being lukewarm on the album but then in the track-by-track they each go crazy over virtually every song.
Ray Blake And then there were three "The lady lies" the album is awesome. You have to listen to it more than once. You climb upon a burning rope to escape the mob below. Duke is like # 2 for me, for personal reasons.
Ray Blake ATTWT is a great album imo with an atmosphere that I really love, I don’t care that some songs are stripped down.
It's a great album, and it probably contained a glimpse into where they were heading more than any album around that time in their history. Personally my favorite is "Trick of the Tail", but outside of Invisible touch I love most of their stuff.
I agree. 'And Then There Were Three' is rather unique. I've always liked it. Not one of the badest.
One of my favorites. Undertow is probably my number one on that one.
Duke is my favorite Genesis album, and one of my all time favorite albums.
It’s Tony Banks favorite album as well.
Absolutely agreed. A Progressive Opera (I mean the album must be accepted as a whole, not as a bunch of songs) masterpiece. My favourite.
Bah.
@@lubenretrolletarios7901 Only half a album. Only like 7 songs and hate the other 5 completely. Abacab is even worse only like two songs Abacab and Dodo and simply hate the rest.
A very balanced view from someone who obviously experienced the band as a young man in a highly changed musical environment. It must be a testament to the timeless nature of their music. The reality is you still returned to the roots of their development and the true genius of those early albums. I fell in love with 'SELLING..." probably 20 years before you did - amazing!
Curious but Selling England by the pound was my first Genesis album. I didn´t like it at first time. I got back when Phil assumed the vocals and I liked it. Then I got back to Selling England and I loved it so much I bought all Genesis records with Peter on vocals. Since then, I'm a big Peter Gabriel fan and, for me, Selling... is the best Genesis album so far.
Couldn't agree more. That was my journey, too.
Abacab ? No reply at all? Man on the corner? Keep it dark. Worst album? That’s just silly.
tommy hall that's just an opinion
No Reply At All, Man on the Corner, Keep it Dark? I'd honestly list those among the worst songs Genesis ever created. Compare those to Musical Box, Watcher of the Skies, Can-utility and the Coastliners.
Keep it Dark is great!
tommy hall - Keep It Dark is one of my favorites. There's just something about it that I love...
You're sooooooo PG
Cul-De-Sac is a snooze fest, are you crazy? Have you listened to the song? It's a masterpiece. Phil's singing and drumming is insane on there.
Fritz this guy talks through his arse, he cannot pronounce half of the songs or album titles correctly, infact he gets on my f******* nerves lol
The fact that this gentleman loves "The Brazilian" and "Dreaming While You Sleep" baffle me. For me, they are two of the "filler-est" tracks on any Genesis release. Tony's parallel 5ths in those tunes (also prevalent in "Dividing Line" and first over-used in the instrumental section outro of "Abacab") are just *ugh* for me. It's like he's either trying to be "rockin'" or "funky"...and it's neither...and "Cul de Sac" as a snooze fest? It's a fantastic composition.
Cul de Sac is a progressive masterpiece, just ignore this guy because he can’t even pronounce the album and song titles properly ffs. Harold the barold and fountain of salamatics, wind and weathering are just a few of his bulbous blunderings.
Kingdongdingdongdang Lmao. I just heard that. Did he just say Wind and Weathering? Haha
Finally someone agrees with me, it's so amazing! Same with man of our times. People always dismiss those two
You can’t rate all their albums unless you enjoy both Phil and Peter eras
The first time I've listened to Genesis was with the Invisible Touch live concert at Wembley, I've got Hooked. Then my cousin offered me We can't dance in Vinyl, not my favorite by then. I didn't know about Peter Gabriel era (only after the internet era started), when I discovered it was love at first sight. I bought all the CD's studio/live remasters and the two Archives.
"Tonight Tonight Tonight" = snoozefest? No way man.
Right???
This kids an idiot
Takes a while to get into it, if you’re gonna have a long song you gotta keep it interesting 🙉
Dude def doesnt know the meaning behind Tonight Tonight Tonight
80s 90s genesis are crap. Just accept it. His list is great.
In my mind, The Lamb was the most "Gabrielesque" album that Genesis ever produced -- and that's enough reason to put it solidly on top of any ranking of this band. Banks is the other bona fide genius that came from this group, but I do believe that The Lamb made him very uncomfortable about Gabriel's place in the band ... and, ultimately, that's why Peter decided to do his own thing. To this day, you can research comments from Banks that attack certain Gabriel era work as being "too wordy," which supports my point about the friction between Peter and Tony. In the end, however, it's really too bad that the lineup of Banks, Collins, Gabriel, Hackett and Rutherford didn't grace the world with more timeless treasure.
Particularly as the recording process became much more advanced. To hear them recording that type of material in today's recording environment (or even the environment of the 80's) would be amazing. The 80's killed prog in a pretty drastic way, though.
Have a look here on YT at the 2007 Reissues interviews for Selling England . . -- you'll find that the way they did things sometimes didn't leave (for some) enough space in the music (see Phil discussing Epping Forest). As for Tony and Peter, they are still great friends, which is why Peter was the one to present Tony with his Prog God Award from PROG magazine (also to be found on YT).
The problem started when Collins escaped from the drums. Chester Thompson was a mighty fine drummer too.
Timberwright Svs Finally some real insight on this board. Thanks for weighing in...
@@CLGMusicMedia You make a very good point about the 80s and its effect on real progressive rock. There are many musicians who made their bones in the 70s, in fact, that have gone on record as saying that the 80s is when experimentation was slowly phased out of the business. Why? Because there were many musicians involved with producing music in the 70s ... and, sadly for all of us, they were replaced by more "business minded" executives in the post-70s era.
Drink every time he says "snoozefest"
You'll need your stomach pumped if you add every time he refers to a song as "guy." I get it...he saw Hackett mention that they used "guy" for music phrases
You drink for "snoozefest", I'll drink for "fun", and somebody else better drive.
You're mad Cul-de-sac is a stunning track so epic, dunno how anyone could find it boring
He’s a blithering idiot who can’t even pronounce song and album titles properly, wind and weathering lol, fountain of salamatics, Harold the barrold, really haha
...so...all ballads are "snoozefests"? Sorry, the chord changes in most of them ("your own special way", e.g.) are fantastic, as are the lyrics. You have to pay attention, though.
Yeah don't understand how he could find cul-de-sac boring
Dodo/Lurker from Abacab is pretty good
agreed
this is when they said good bye to prog
The title track is great too.
I'd say it had more to do with the changing musical climate of the times. They always threw a bone to their long time fans but not enough to be pure prog of course.
I think "SILVER RAINBOW" is one of the most FORGETTABLE songs by Genesis, ever.
NO HOOKS. NO NOTHING. There's something he's not telling us, like he lost his virginity to that song.
(I LOVE Cheesy-Pop Genesis, almost as much as I love art-rock Genesis... and a lot of their later stuff (and mid and first lp) LACKS HOOKS. Silver Rainbow's got nothing! ABACAB has some irresistible pop on there.)
Let's face it the 70s Genesis and the 80s Genesis are just two totally different bands playing a totally different type of music. It happens, it's a shame and I feel exactly the same way about Queen after about 1977/78. Best just to enjoy the Genesis you like best (70s for me) and treat the other stuff as something else.
that's true, they are quite different. I think I just much prefer Collins' voice over Gabriel's. A Trick of The Tail and Wind and Wuthering are my favorite albums, regardless of them being 70's albums. I even prefer Invisible Touch to the Gabriel era albums, with Firth of Fifth and Carpet Crawlers songs being rare exceptions.
^ Surely trolling
Absolutely.
I could not agree more. Good comparison with Queen, too.
youandwhosearmy? I agree with one exception; they should have changed the name of the band.
A bad Genesis album, is still a good album.
It's one of those bands, yeah
I still listen to (as we call it) "that last crappy Genesis album" once in a while. Not Ray Wilson's fault...
Wind and Wuthering is a masterpiece and One for the vine together with Eleventh Earl of Mar is about as far you can get from straight forward rock.
For me number one!!
The last track is lovely, Blood on the rooftops is great, but Eleventh Early of Marl is a bit of mess for me.
Eleventh Earl of Mar is awesome!!
tomstickland I know what you mean, and it’s that ”mess” that I like. I listen to Earl of Mar once a year (very high volume) and it’s a pure eargasm!🤣
Never forget camping out with a friend in 77 16yrs old, at midnight they had the album hour ( god I miss old FM radio) and Eleventh Earl of Mar filled the woods. First listen and it was like wow, our stoned asses soaked up the whole record.
Harold Burrows The only time I wish I was older is when I read or hear stories like yours. I ”discovered” Genesis when I was 16 in 1980. I heard Dancing on the Moonlit Knight on the radio and I immediately was in love with their music. I didn’t even bother to buy their new album ”Duke” which was released that year (a good album I think now, but not then). I did buy all the other albums though after a hard struggle for money🤣. My favourite then was Selling England... Now it’s as I wrote Wind and Wuthering. I wish I was 16 in 1971. Then I would have the possibility to see them on tour with classical set up. I would then be 66 today...as if 56 is not bad enough🤣.
For me Foxtrot is the best, followed closely by Selling England and The Lamb
I love Foxtrot to death, Selling England By the Pound might be a better prog rock album but Foxtrot will always be my favorite
Abacab's title track is awesome.
yes
I love Abacab
Dam straight.
And the live performances of Abacab were epic.
Yes it is. I don't know what's wrong with this guy. LOL
The first time i saw Genesis in concert was 1987. I do wish that I had seen them in the seventies, which is what I think is their best era. I cut my teeth on Genesis by listening to Seconds Out, so the live sound will always hold a place in my heart.
It's a shame Seconds out never gets included in any lists. It's one of the most brilliant live albums I've ever heard.
I just found lately your channel and this video was just MMMMMHHHHHH. ^^
I finally found a reviewer that talks about prog bands and talk about one of my favourite bands in this video I agreed with most of things you said well done dude you earned a sub! 😃
I'd love to see a best to worst on Jethro Tull.
I grew up with Genesis in the 70's. I bought their albums religiously and knew every song, every lyric like the back of my hand. I played them every day after school and my younger brother was also as mega-fanboy as myself and had his playing in his room, too. We drove our poor parents mental with two blasts of Genesis reverberating down the stairs. Our Mum would stand in the hall and ring a bell, shouting "Supper's Ready!" for us to come down for dinner. Quite how they put up with it I'll never know.
This reviewer, whilst enthusiastic, really doesn't fully appreciate the transition from album to album. At the time when these albums were released the amount of time my friends and I spent trying to work out the meanings entwined into the lyrics was quite excessive, at least borderline obsessive. It was certainly helped because we did Latin, and so were familiar with Greek mythology and Ovid's Metamorphoses and all that. Not so easy with The Battle Of Epping Forest, as the contents of that were somewhat too mature for us mere schoolboys. It was only later that I was able to fully understand what went on there and it remains to this day an absolute favourite. Suffice to say the "Reverend" was not a man of the cloth... and if anyone ever worked out what was meant by a "Staffordshire Plate", well, well done you. I'll say no more for not spoiling anyone's fun of discovering for themselves.
When Gabriel left it was beyond shocking. However, upon hearing A Trick Of The Tail for the first time, it's opener Dance On A Volcano - good grief, it was unbelievably great. And Genesis live during that period with Bill Bruford. Fantastic.
I attended a number of Genesis concerts over the years. On the Abacab tour I was at their Berlin show and was leaning onto the edge of the centre of the stage. Phil Collins was standing singing right in front of me. Nobody can tell me these Abacab songs were not fantastic when performed live. The sound coming off that stage and the energy and brilliance of the band all playing was something else entirely.
I simply don't have a "list" of Genesis albums. You just don't do lists for such a brilliant band. Each of their albums inhabits its own space and competes with nothing but the listeners attention. Interestingly, Tony Banks thinks Silver Rainbow (written by Genesis - all three of them) is easily one of the least inspiring songs that Genesis recorded. Each to his own as they say.
But I still like to hear others opinions and this was one of them.
15. We can't Dance
14. Calling all Stations
13. Invisible Touch
12. Genesis
11. Abacab
10. And then there were 3
9. Duke
8. Wind and Wuthering
7. Trick of the Tail
6. Lamb lies down on Broadway
5. From Genesis to Revelation
4. Nursery Cryme
3. Trespass
2. Selling England by the Pound
1. Foxtrot
The top 10 are my favorite Genesis Albums.
Abacab is one of my top five favourites along with Duke, The Lamb, Selling England by the Pound, Trick of the Tail.
Yes, we know you hate Abacab but its a really good album and still sounds fresh and new after all these decades.
Love most of their albums. To me, their best track though is The Lamia. I can never get enough of listening to it…
Silent sorrow in empty boats completes the song for me.
@@rokkkrinn2793 "Back in New York City" pure, perfect rage.
I agree completely. There are songs I like on every single Genesis album, but "The Lamia" is my personal favorite track. I've covered it and performed it dozens of times.
Dude! Get ‘Em Out By Friday is amazing! One of Peter’s best lyrical moments of storytelling and social commentary
"The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" I saw the tour.
I wish !!!! I remember the older kids who could drive and could actually afford concert tickets saw the LLD tour and came away like they saw God!
Thank you! I couldn't separate anything from Nursery Cryme to Wind & Wuthering as they're all masterpieces for me, each with their own distinctive character. I realise you're only doing studio albums, but I'd have to put Seconds Out in there as a phenomenal live album, especially as we get to hear Collins take on all the Gabriel era epics so brilliantly, and of course we have Chester Thompson and Bill Bruford in the lineup as well.
Bill on Drums on Cinema show makes my face melt every time
Yes! Amazing!
Ha, you just named my 3 favourite albums, especially Seconds Out and W & W. Masterpieces and timeless
Tractor Countdown Agreed. Have to pick foxtrot at top because of watcher and supper.
500 yrs from now people will still listen to these songs. Unless the commies take over.
I never liked live albums, except Live and Dangerous by Thin Lizzy and Seconds Out are exceptions as they are absolutely outstanding.
Trespass drummer: John Mayhew, Only one with this guy
Right on! I completely agree with your choices!
Love your review man !
my list only has 7 albums on it. Trespass through Wind and Wuthering. They all rule.
Short of The Knife it's a lot of sleepy filler material to my ears : )
It WAS terrible sounding pre 1992 before the first remastered CD's came out from Europe. But when it was remastered after that, it is a decent sounding recording now, it's like a vale has been lifted off the recording, if you haven't checked it out lately, you should be pleasantly surprised, really. The ABC released CD sounds bad, don't get that version. The go to version at least for CD are: 1992 Europe definitive edition or the Rhino/Virgin 2006 or so versions.
Duke could easily replace Trespass, and somehow Nursery Crime was produced so poorly (worse than Trespass), as much as I want to hear those songs, it hurts my sensibilities. Leave them both off.
Yup
@@ThePwebb fuck Duke
totally agree with a Trick of Tail. It´s my favorite Genesis Album. it´s so powerfull, so complex and yet so acessible (wait, the title track isn´t it, but you got it).
I have seven Genesis albums and they are your top seven. But I’d put them in a slightly different order. I liked hearing your comments because you mention things about songs that I hadn’t noticed. So I can go back and listen again and keep an ear out for those things.
"Harold the Barold"
It's not that he said Abacab his least favorite that made me shake my head. It's that he thinks it has no redeeming qualities at all. That's ridiculous.
Phil Collins's and Peter Gabriel's favourite Genesis album is , I am proud to say , The Lamb Lies Down In Broadway . Easily their best album .
It grew on me slowly, unlike The Wall which picked me up at first listen. Now, it's my fav Genesis album. :3
Steve Hackett's is Selling England by the Pound. Not sure what Tony's is.
@@kevinrombouts3027 any album where Peter and Phil don't have as much input lol I don't think Tony is held to the fire for chasing Peter away as much as he shoukd be.
Trespass is my pers fav. Love your videos!!
1 And Then There Were Three
2 The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
3 A Trick Of The Tail
4 Selling England By The Pound
5 Duke
6 Wind And Wuthering
7 Everything Else
Nice Sam the Record Man shirt! Takes me back to the late 70's, cruising the Yonge St. strip in Toronto.
A legendary piece of Toronto history! At least the sign is on that building near victoria and dundas.
I'm shocked that Genesis is your favorite band yet you don't like anything on Abacab. I dig several of those jams. Crazy
Abacab is a very weak record
Nice one mate for putting A Trick at number 2 in your selection. It's my personal favourite. Every single track is top notch and the drumming and keyboard playing are exceptional as well as Phil Collins doing the best Peter Gabriel tribute vocal you are ever likely to hear.
It's also the one album that the Gabrielite faction would love to hate but can't because it is soooo good!!!
Wonderful ranking! Exept I see The Lamb on snd place, I agree! Greetings from Hamburg Germany
WOW 32 seconds in and I'm already pissed. I LOVE the entire ABACAB album.
The bass line FoS on Nursery Cryme is amazing.
The whole album is such an overlooked piece of art
1_ Selling England By the Pound
2- Foxtrot
3- The Lamb Lies Donw on Broadway
4- Nursery Crime
5- Trick of the Tail
6- Wind and Wuthering
7- Trespass
8- Duke
9- Genesis
10- Abacab
11- We Can't Dance
12- Invisible Touch
13- And Then There Were Three
14- Calling all Stations
15- From Genesis to Revelation
From number 9 to 14, i'm not really sure about the positions. Some could change.
May not agree with Abacab but I’m just glad you’re talking about Genesis. And yes, Selling England by the Pound is Dope as f. Trick of the Tail left me speechless. My personal fav is ...And then there were three. Tony Banks doesn’t get enough props imo. Love these dudes to death. And thank you for being a fan like me! ✌🏾
As I've discovered Genesis in the past year, my number one has continually changed. It all began with A Trick. I agree ENTIRELY that there exists NO duds on that one. Every song is brilliant. Entangled and Ripples are just some of the most beautiful compositions I've ever heard in my life...life changing. Next, I decided to give Wind a listen. I didn't really get it at first. It was just enough of a contrast from Trick that it threw me off. What a surprise I was in for... I believe it was the bridge on Eleventh Earl of Mar that let me know just how amazing the rest of the record was going to be. Blood On the Rooftops is a massive standout for me. Same thing happened with ATTWT. Just didn't get it at first. But, I fell in love with it very quickly. Undertow is a song that really helped heal me. Then came Duke. Fell in love with it, especially Heathaze. Dear God how can more mortals compose songs that beautiful?
Now one year on, in the past month I started to get into Gabriel Genesis despite some unfounded aversion to doing so previously. I was irritated with myself for not discovering it sooner. For not listening to those who professed the awesomeness of the Gabriel era. I started with SEBTP. What brilliance. Then came an album that has quite categorically changed my life. The way I see life, in fact. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway has got to be the greatest concept album of our time. The Lamia. The Carpet Crawlers. Hell, of course, the whole record. It is my favorite record ever. Bar none.
Decades ago I was in a band and we had this young guy on guitar, he was into Metallica and that ilk. We were doing Rock and Roll stuff, Springsteen, Melloncamp et al. I loaned him Lamb lies down saying, this is where you need to be going? He left the band a few months later and started writing original Prog rock...
man u pretty much nailed it, cracks me up when people question where abacab was ranked, clear to see you are a true fan who gets it....i question the comments about Gabriel leaving, simply too young to have an opinion on at that time. i'd be willing to bet, the players would agree with the ranking
I enjoyed your personal assessment of your favorite Genesis albums. My own favorite Genesis LP's are the 3 post-Gabriel, pre Hackett departure albums "Wind and Wuthering," "A Trick of the Tail," and "Seconds Out." I think its pretty cool that you are only in your thirties, yet an avid enthusiast for classic Genesis and progressive rock. It's nice for a younger generation of music fans to have an appreciation for this phenomenal older music which is sadly being forgotten. Keep up the good work!
For Trespass, the drummer was John Mayhew. They went through two others prior to him. When he left, Phil replaced him.
TOP 5: Genesis
1. Trick of the Tail
2. Foxtrot
3. Selling England by the Pound
4. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
5. Duke
Mine would be
1, Foxtrot
2,Trick of the Tail
3, The Lamb
4. And then there were 3
5, can't split Wind And Wuthering, Nursery Crime and Selling England by the Pound so ill have a top 8 with 3 in at 5 lol
@@mickb2009 nice, i might want to update my list after i recently heard nursery cryme more deeply
15. & Then There Were 3
14. From Genesis to Revelation
13. Calling All Stations
12. We Can't Dance
11. Invisible Touch
10. Trespass
9. Duke
8. Genesis
7. Abacab
6. Wind & Wuthering
5. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
4. Trick of the Tail
3. Foxtrot
2. Nursery Cryme
1. Selling England by the Pound
Love the Sam the Record Man shirt. Oh and your take on Genesis.
I appreciate your enthusiasm about the later stuff, but after Peter left, they lost almost all of their beautiful weirdness. And that was what set them apart from the other from the era. The last two with Peter are easily their best for me.
I can totally understand why people don't like Abacab but i really like it because i can relate to what they were trying to do.
It's a really abstract version of Genesis as a whole, sitting in between pop and prog but without any concept of structure whatsoever. In its own way, it's very proggy because it's so abstract. That hurt its reputation because there are very few moments one can latch on to when diggesting this record. But i admire that apporach and i think they succeeded for the most part.
It's not among their strongest work but i feel it's way better than anything that came after.
And to be honest, Who Dunnit is one of the reasons i like Abacab: it's very much its own silly abstract thing.
The biggest problem with their '80s/'90s albums: too many drum machines and generic synthesizers. It all just gives everything a more synthetic sound. : /
Tony Banks, in my opinion is a genius. And he likes very much Who Dunnit?
Since A Trick of The Tail we can learned who were the composers of the songs. People thinked that Peter Gabriel was the Ian Anderson of Genesis making all music and lyrics.
1. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
2. Selling England By The Pound
3. Foxtrot
4. Wind & Wuthering
5. A Trick Of The Tail
6. Trespass
7. Nursery Cryme
8. And Then There Were Three
9. Duke
10. Abacab
11. Genesis
12. Invisible Touch
13. We Can’t Dance
14. From Genesis To Revelation
15. Calling All Stations
Bought "Selling England by the Pound" beginning eighties. Masterpiece!! listned to it a million times or more....Thought there couldn't be any album better then this... so I am now ready (after almost 40 years) for probably their next brilliant album. Any suggestions?
My list, from worst to best:
15. From Genesis to Revolution: A completely different sound and style from the band that I never really got into. Sounds more Bee Gees than prog rock.
14. Calling All Stations: Ray Wilson is a good singer, but with Collins gone and only two classic members left, it doesn't sound like Genesis. Not surprised this was the last one.
13. Invisible Touch: Domino is cool, The Brazilian is underrated and I've always liked Land of Confusion, but the rest of the album sounds very dated and the songs are too popish.
12. We Can't Dance: It was nice they went back to longer songs, but some of the pop stuff just does nothing for me. It's less dated than Invisible Touch, due to not relying so much on electronic instruments.
11. Abacab: I like Dodo/Lurker, Keep it Dark and the title track. No Reply at All sounds too much like solo Phil Collins, as does Man on the Corner. The rest is forgettable.
10. Genesis: I like Home by the Sea, Mama and That's All. I'm not keen on the rest of the album.
9. And Then There Were Three: Hackett's departure is noticeable, but there are some decent cuts. Nothing spectacular, but nothing bad either.
8. Duke: My favorite of the three man era. I do wish they kept the Duke suite together, as those tracks are much stronger, but I do have a soft spot for Misunderstanding, likely because it sounds like Sail On Sailor and Hot Fun in the Summertime.
7. Trespass: Some really good stuff on this album, but you can see the impact Collins and Hackett had on the sound, though Anthony Phillips is a great guitarist. A very pastoral sound, and I love the hard rock of The Knife.
6. A Trick of the Tail: Peter Gabriel is gone, but the band sounds awesome. I love Dance on a Volcano, Squonk, Los Endos and Entangled in particular.
5. Wind and Wuthering: Steve Hackett's swan song with the group has some really awesome material such as Eleventh Earl of Mar, Blood on the Rooftops, Afterglow and One for the Vine.
4. Nursery Cryme: The addition of Phil Collins and Steve Hackett was the best move the group ever made. The Musical Box, Fountain of Salmacis and Return of the Giant Hogweed are all outstanding tracks.
3. Lamb Lies Down on Broadway: There is a lot of brilliance in this double album, but also some filler. Peter Gabriel's stamp is all over his final album with the band, for better or worse.
2. Foxtrot: Watcher in the Skies, Supper's Ready, Horizons and Can Utility are all excellent, and the other two songs are very good.
1. Selling England by the Pound: Without a doubt, their masterpiece. Some of the best guitar and drum work ever.
You're a Prog elitist
Nektar Panagiotis that’s fine
@@DanceOfTheDawn5963 I love prog, but elitism is too annoying to ignore
Their first album wasnt supposed to be prog and its so stupid that people insult it because they think its supposed to be prog
Cool, nice reading, thanks
Abacab worst album. You are friggin crazy. The title song completely rocks and the song No Reply is awesome as well.
Check out my list
I love, love, loved Duke. A favorite to this day. I even had the pleasure of playing Turn It On in a cover band, along with ABACAB, which was fun to play.
1. The Lamb
2. Selling England
3. Foxtrot
4. W&W
5. Trick
6. Trespass
7. Nursery Cryme
8. ATTW3
9. Duke
10. Abacab
11. Invisible Touch
12. Genesis
13. We Can’t Dance
14. FGTR
15. CAS
Wind and Weathering deserves to at least be on the list. At most, among my favorite 5. I think their last gasp at British flavored material (Blood on the Rooftops), with prog jams (11th Earl of Mar/All In a Mouses Night?) their last epic samplings (One for the Vine/Unquiet Slumber For the Sleepers-In That Quiet Earth). I think it's their most grossly underrated album.
Wuthering
Wind and wuthering. It’s even printed on the cover!
Abacab was my first Genesis record, and I love it. Especially Dodo/Lurker. So I have to take issue with you over that. Otherwise, thanks for posting this! I'm glad to hear another person's perspective on this great band, and I did hit the 'like' button. Cheers!
Interesting review, and the order is totally a matter of taste and not something anyone can argue about, although I totally agree with your number 1, but I was just wondering if you had ever listened to "The Watch"'s take on what some of the songs on "Genesis to Revelation" could have sounded like without J. King steam rollering his sound over them? Listen to Timeless by The Watch to find out. Enjoy!
Genesis is my favourite band too!
1. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
2. Selling England by the Pound
3. Foxtrot
4. Nursery Cryme
5. A Trick of the Tail
6. Wind & Wuthering
7. Everything else
The top five is just my list! and the six place is for Trespass and the seven is for Wind & Wuthering
I would agree. Basically when Grabriel was there
1. Selling England 2. A trick 3. Foxtrot 4.wind & Wuthering 5. From Genesis to Revolution
Very good list
@@stigb56
Wait... From Genesis is higher than The Lamb Lies Down?
My list with an score:
15 - Calling All Stations - 3
14 - From Genesis to Revelation - 5
13 - Genesis - 6
12 - We Can't Dance - 6,5
11 - Trespass - 7
10 - Abacab - 7
09 - Invisible Touch - 7,5
08 - And Then There Were Three - 7,5
07 - Nursery Cryme - 8
06 - Wind & Wuthering - 8,5
05 - A Trick of the Tail - 8,5
04 - Duke - 9
03 - Selling England by the Pound - 9
02 - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - 9,5
01 - Foxtrot - 9,5
This would be my list
15. Calling All Stations
14. From Genesis To Revelation
13. Genesis
12. We Can't Dance
11. Nursery Cryme
10. Duke
9. Trespass
8. And Then There Were Three
7. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
6. Wind and Wuthering
5. A Trick of The Tail
4. Abacab
3. Invisible Touch
2. Foxtrot
1. Selling England by the Pound
Similar to yours in places. But Invisible Touch is top three material in my opinion.
Trespass below abacab and invisible touch is insulting
@@dougmcauliffe2253 Insulting to who ecactly? To you? Well I dont know you so I don't care.
Hey you know, none of these lists include SPOT THE PIGEON. Too bad it gets pushed under the radar becuase it has "Inside And Out", one of the finest Genesis songs ever recorded. It would be tough to pick a spot for it on this list since the other two songs are... well some humorous leftovers from W&W
In fact, even If I did know you I wouldnt care. To be offended by something not remotely offensive is so indicative of the call out culture right now. Prog should not offend anyone except rare extremely stupid people who just cant understand and therefore feel insulted.
you, sir, are a man of taste! the Duke suite is a flugging masterpiece, and I think the unsung Supper's Ready of the 80s. such a fantastic suite
My top 3 is the same. Great overview.
Music is a very personal thing. We all like different music even within one band. Personally, I adore everything from Trespass to Trick of the Tail
The Lamb must be on top - their best work. :) And Abacab is not completely without merit. Title track and Dodo/Lurker are good tracks.
Lamb is a masurbation piece for Peter Gabriel. Easily Foxtrot and Selling England are better, maybe Trick of the Tail too.
You are correct about Peter Gabriel, yet the band did most of the music without him and despite the excesses of Peter, rose to a level they hadn't reached before and haven't reached since. My number one.
There's no album like The Lamb, before or since, it's their masterpiece.
And the lyrics are quite amazing too. Peter was checked out of the group, but he wasn't checked out of the music.
Agree..."The Lamb must be on top - their best work", but Trick of the Tail (equal 2nd) was the saviour (I never thought they could produce an album like this without PG) Selling England by the Pound (equal 2nd).
Couple thing. The Waiting Room to me is Genesis’ cover of Revolution 9. And I love that you have Your Name in the background. ;)
Wow my list is pretty similar, only that trick of the tail is at 1 and selling England is at 2, I have a special spot for trick of the tail since it was the first Genesis album that I listened to and it made me fall in love with the band, sincerely its a master piece
We Can't Dance album aged very well. Driving the Last Spike is an amazing tune. Only 1bad song "Since I Lost You". Besides that, great album.
Genesis to Reveleation is worst, followed by Calling All Stations. Abacab has some good songs such as the title track and "Like it or Not".
Concuerdo con tu designación de los cuatro últimos álbumes pero no veo mala la canción "Since lost you" porque tiene un enorme contenido emocional y francamente pienso que nadie deba arrogarse la autoridad musicalmente válida de juzgar una canción de semejante grupo como "mala". Prefiero decir "esta canción me gusta mas que otra" etc...
It's crap. Deal with it.
@@lubenretrolletarios7901 JAJAJA!!! "SEGURAMENTE TU LO HARÍAS MEJOR QUE ELLOS"
@@lubenretrolletarios7901 "IT'S CRAP. DEAL WITH IT".
Since I lost you is one of the stronger songs, but the album sucks immensely compared to their earlier works
BORING :
15. Calling All Stations
14. From Genesis To Revelation
__________
FAIR :
13. We Can't Dance
__________
NICE :
12. Invisible Touch
11. And Them They Were Three
__________
EXCELLENT :
10. Abacab
9. Trespass
8. Genesis
7. Duke
__________
EPIC :
6. Nursery Cryme
5. Selling England By The Pound
4. Foxtrot
__________
LEGENDARIES :
3. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
2. Wind And Wuthering
1. A Trick Of The Tail
BORING:
15. Calling All Stations
14. From Genesis To Revelation
FAIR:
13. And Then There Were Three
12. Abacab
NICE:
11.We Can't Dance
10. Invisible Touch
EXCELLENT:
9. Trespass
8. Genesis
7. Duke
EPIC:
6. Foxtrot
5. A Trick of the Tail
4. Wind and Wuthering
LEGENDARIES:
3. Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
2. Nursery Cryme
1.Selling England By The Pound
Mishaido Perfect!
Pretty much agree with you I like the old stuff too .good assessment of one of the greatest bands of all time. Great watch
Yep, nailed this one.