Rare: Nathan B. Forrest Interview. (The Civil War Diaries S4E27)
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- Listen in to a rare news interview conducted with Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest on August 28th, 1868 by Jim Benok for the Cincinnati Daily Commercial an 1860's newspaper. The interview was subsequently narrated for the Civil War Diaries. While portions of this interview are often cited, it is rarely given in it's entirety and so is given here, along with Forrest's reply to the article that was published in order to be given full context.
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If Gen Forrest could see what Memphis has become now, I suspect he'd get those 40k together ASAP and clean house.
Good point
General Nathan Bedford Forrest was a Gentleman Scholar of the Old South
Only thing missing in mem-town is the tree-vines.
He did order the KKK on a killing spree in Memphis led by Judge Julius JJ Debose. !t was estimated more than half the black population fled permanently.
@@dwightdowson9259 haha. He was the furthest thing from a scholar. He was uneducated.
Thank you, Bird Dog! The word Gen. Forrest used was not "impolite" but "impolitic" which means imprudent, or unwise. The voice-over guy reading the part of Gen. Forrest misread the word. Highest honor to both Gen. Forrest and Gen. Lee, and to Pres. Davis!
Thanks! That was likely my fault as I was having a hard time making it out when I transcribed it from the news article. Working on another Forrest interview for next weeks upcoming episode, hopefully I’ll get it all transcribed right this time!
Hoorah! My Brother... Hoorah!
@@BirdDogg No problem, BirdDog, mistakes happen to ALL of us. And, my sincere THANKS to You for being so kind to reply as You did.
@@BirdDogg You're welcome. Can't wait for the next interview of Gen. Forrest!
One of the best generals produced by either side during the War for Southern Independence. A much misunderstood man. A great Tennessean. Leaders like Forrest and Lee made the peace stick after the war, a testament to their leadership and the faith Southerners had in them.
I thoroughly enjoyed listening to this and appreciate it being put together. Oh, how would I love to have been able to have met General Forrest. I surely wish his story could be more fairly told.
On a separate note, I don't think any of us really appreciate how terrible the oppression of "reconstruction" was for the south. In many ways, it was more terrible than the war itself.
Forrest certainly wasn't any worse than every one of the thugs in the inner cities
Stay tuned, another great Forrest interview is coming up in next weeks episode!
Well said, Mark. Very well said!
Wow General Forest was a man you could not ignore. Intelligent & still in control of the situation.
Excellent and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Forrest is undoubtedly a fascinating person to study, and he is not altogether the person who so many reviled and feared.
Only "those people" feared him; the ones Gen Lee referred to that were yankees.
He was a high ranking member of the earliest form of the KKK. Anyone honoring him shows who, and what, they really are.
Regardless of anything else, Civil War history confirms that General Nathan Bedford Forrest was a military genius and stately cavalryman.
No. History records two sides of the man.
1) Those from the politician that was Forrest with five newspapers drumming up local support for him.
2) Those that remember him for his brutality.
As for military genius any competent leader could do so with his advantages. Forrest had all the advantages and no of the disadvantages of a typical command. You could take any Tom Dick or Harry that was a rich braggart and put him in the same scenario and succeed.
1) Operate in a vast friendly area that readily provided supplies, intelligence reports, and recruits.
2) Attack small groups to gain military supplies.
3) Ignore orders from superiors, refuse to communicate with peers or other commands nearby. Take soldiers from other commands as your own.
@@scottgoens7575 Your opinions, feelings and emotions are not facts.
@@-sunstar9778 Not opinions at all. Forrest is a polarising character. you love him or hate him.
Everything I have said is taken from books on Forrest. True events.
I'm sorry I exposed the ugly underbelly to you... it's a jagged pill to swallow for you.
@@scottgoens7575 Delusional minds are a sorry state.
@@-sunstar9778 thus have you labeled all who see merit in Forrest.
Sheesh, that is one man no one should mess with. I can see why he was feared during Lincolns war.
Lincoln's war & those RADICAL Republicans. Now we have RADICAL DEMORATS to contend with.
Forrest was safe as long as he remained east of the Mississippi river. Any campaign between 1860 through 1865 involving "Little Dixie" (Arrow Rock), Forrest's cavalry would have been decimated (Quantrill, James, Youngers, Bloody Bill ,George Todd, etc)
you mean the war Lincoln waged against the racist traitors
So, Lincoln fired 💥
on 🇺🇸 Sumter❓️ 🤔
Gen Forrest was a person who, like gen Lee, gave the southern people hope that the constitution and American ideals were still applied to them, and that a political solution was the wise solution.
The political solution was the only solution.
The South lost the war.
...the constitution and Amercan ideals were applied to them? I spoze,
...so long as your melanin produced a skin tone passing as white.
And on top of that,there is proof they were good people. Unlike Sherman and Lincoln.
@markivy3451
Oh my. I have seen plenty of evidence to confirm an influx of antisemitism. But, I surely did not expect a resurgence of your kind of hate. I'll pray for you.
@@Zionist_Eternal i didnt say anything hateful,there is proof lincoln and sherman joked about the southern whites and slaves sherman killed on one of his reports to the office. There is proof robert e. Lee was a gentleman and proof nathan b. Forrest was trying to help the south. Carpet Baggers came from up north after the war. Proof is there. Your the hateful none knowing of the facts by name calling. Do a deep dive,lincoln also wanted to ship all blacks back to africa. Of a program yes that was already started. Much Much more that the school system lies about.
Respectful, honest, and truthful. Not a racist or animal at all. Forthright and descriptive and precise in his words. I still regard the man as a patriot and true cavalier of the south. I have no reason not to. Rip. Deo Vindice
The best General on either side and possibly the best ever. Extremely smart and made two different fortunes.
Nicely stated.
Stay tuned, another great Forrest interview is coming up in next weeks episode!
so not a racist...and he sold slaves.....wow
So he wasn't a racist but was one of the 6 Confederate generals who founded the KKK . Forest boasted that he had 550,000 klansman under his leadership . The KKK brutalized and terrorized southern blacks, and any whites who showed any sympathy for the black ppl . Some hero smh
On the “Civil War” and the issue of slavery….
Things to consider.
* Note - I believe that slavery and indentured servitude should have been abolished at the founding of the USA.
As a decades-long history/civil war buff, I still cannot satisfy a legitimate reason for Lincoln and the Union to invade the Southern States…. Causing the absolute destruction of so many cities and towns along with the death of at least 600,000 people.
Sure, the excuse of slavery is always used… along with “preserving the union”(whatever that is), but there are too many contradictions to support that argument, along with the multiple violations of the Constitution by Lincoln.
1) If ending Slavery was Truly the goal, WHY didn’t the US Congress pass & ratify a constitutional amendment in 1861, 1862, 63, 64 or early 65 to abolish slavery
ASAP…. The North had Full Control of the congress and government ??
2) How could they fight a war against their fellow countrymen and states for practicing something that was still 100% legal by federal law (the Constitution) ?
(Abolish the practice first, then they would have had a legitimate excuse.)
3) There were still several border / Union states that continued slavery during those years. But never faced invasion or forced takeover ?
Fact : The cotton industry in the South during the 1850’s-60’s created enormous amounts of wealth that surpassed all other industries of the time.
Any 2-3 southern cotton states in that time had a GDP higher than any other country in the world.
Yes, this was created on the backs of the people enslaved or indentured servants…. Much like the massive corporations of today that thrive off the backs of the working class.
** With these things (and countless others) in mind, I have to believe that the war was instigated by business owners and industry leaders in the North, with Lincoln as their ally, a civil war was a means to forcibly take control of the land and massive wealth generated by the cotton growing industry.
The ideas of abolition and preserving the union were excellent reasons to sell the American people and other governments leaning towards Southern recognition.
In ALL wars, the primary driving force has always been wealth. Money !
I always just say, ending slavery was the result of the civil war, not the cause.
@@BirdDogg that would have been a lot easier to type ! 😂
@@Alan-in-Bama with all the rage I get daily in the comments, I had to find shorthand 😂🫡
@Alan-in-Bama
Your comments were among the most cogent I've ever read on this subject (with the possible exception of my own)!
Bravo!
Slavery was the biggest and most controversial issue at the Constitutional Convention. Too many Reps wouldn't budge on the issue, so it couldn't be banned. An agreement WAS made that within 20 years (1807) no more slaves could be imported from Africa. In 1861 the Confederate states also put that same ban in their Constitutions.
Only 5% of Southerners owned slaves. Jews owned 63% of the slaves in USA according to every Census. It was Jewish slave traders, Jewish slave buyers and Jewish money that was responsible for the cruel project of flooding the Americas with Africans. Please see in Wikipedia the bios of Aaron Lopez, DeWolf and Judah P. Benjamin.
The European Jewish bankers (the George Soroses of their day) created and financed the Knights of the Golden Circle (KGC) to agitate for slavery and against the North. They were very active and set the attitude of the Southerners to be very pro slavery and against the North and the radical, uncompromising abolitionists. The South was primed by radical agitators.
Czar Alexander II in 1862 sent his Foreign Minister to visit Lincoln. He stated that "Without a doubt" the European bankers were behind the rebellion in the South. The Czar sent his Navy to NYC and San Francisco, threatened war against England and France if they intervened. Four years later terrorists started setting bombs off in St. Petersburg, Russia, killing many officials and bystanders, finally killing Czar Alexander II. This caused the Pograms.
Virtually ALL abolitionists, including Lincoln, wanted slaves freed and then immediately sent to somewhere else. Lincoln worked on this project and got Congress to appropriate $$millions for the project. Lincoln had Chiriqui, Panama in mind. If Lincoln had not been killed the Freedmen would likely have been colonized elsewhere and America would be blessedly almost entirely free of the scourge of having Africans in America.
People spoke so much more eloquently back than . Today not so much.
Forrest spoke like the uneducated man he was. Much that was written correspondence was done by life long aid-de-camps as his writing was worse still.
☝🏿 is listening to Nathan Bedford Forrest Biography and previously profoundly enjoyed “Bust Hell Wide Open” The Life of Nathan Bedford Forrest.
📝 Very good 👍🏿 video! Fuel for further research. 🧐
It's super important that we learn real history.
Of course, the loser in any conflict is vilified.
I'm an Aussie and not totally schooled in the fallout from the war.
Many thanks.
A different time, and a different people, with a different cause. Hard to relate from our worldview, but still fascinating.
True
Nope. People are more than willing to disenfranchise groups that disagree with them. Men and women have a whole party that hate the constitution in the states and federal level.
Men have to be constantly vigilant to those who would be "scalawags" and "carpet- baggers."
Today men couldn't talk like this and not get a knock on the door from any alphabet, unconstitutional agency. That is a difference of the times.
A highly skilled military tactician . One of the top military leaders in the US civil war
AMEN, my Brother, Amen!
This is the only man Sherman feared!!!! He had 37 horses shot out from under him!!!! His men would follow him to hell and back! What a true warrior!!!
And a cruel man .
shame he was fighting in a war to keep slavery
A lot of his men were former slaves. His. And they rode with him. His TRUTH is often hidden by those whom twist history.
@@st3019How so.
brentinnes5151Lincoln turned it into that to keep Britain & France from supporting the South. Learn something someday
Good video! If you're not Forrest, you're against us!
That was excellent. My Shepard was named Gen Forrest!
Mine is named Pickett (he’s apt to charge even when it’s reckless)
@@BirdDoggAre you gonna make a video glorifying Oskar Dirlewanger next ?!
@@st3019 For clarity, I present documented history, I don’t have to glorify anything, that part is baked into the cake before I ever slice it.
great stuff R.I.P.BEDFORD
There is no rest in hell...
@@scottgoens7575 heaven
Great video!
Last July 3rd I went to the boyhood home of Nathan Bedford Forrest God bless General Forest rest in peace keep bringing our Southern history alive I give you a rebel real bird dogs God save the South❤🙏
we need that !!!
Thank You, Wayne. That was very well said. I am a born and bred New York City Yankee, but in my heart and soul, I am a Son Of The South. I love the South, and I love the great Southern People. I'm a Vietnam Veteran (US Army 505th PIR 82nd Airborne Division). While in the Military I was in a Platoon that was made up of mostly Southerners. From them, I learned some of the History and Culture of the South. And, I swear to You, these Southern Paratroopers were some of the damn Bravest Men I have ever seen! They became like a second Family to me. Now, I have traveled all over the South, and I realize that in my heart, I Am a Proud Man of the South. There is just something so Strong, Honest, and well Cultured about American Southerners that is deserving of admiration. Again, my sincere THANKS to You, Wayne. Your Comment was Spot On.
@@georgewilkie3580 Jesus man, that was so moving I just rubbed one out to Patsy Cline.
You just want the Confederacy back.
@@rinlo1424
And?
My Favorite Confederate GENERAL!
DEO VINDICE!
Thanks BirdDogg, keep up the good work of the REAL history of things. SALUTE.
DEO VINDICE ❤
Stay tuned, another great Forrest interview is coming up in next weeks episode!
@@BirdDogg...👍
Interesting article. Thanks for sharing
I've read this interview before, but was unaware of his rebuttal. Great video, and Gen. Forrest was certainly a force to be reckoned with. Even his horse, King Phillip, hated Yankees, apparently!
Stay tuned, another great Forrest interview is coming up in next weeks episode!
@@BirdDoggThanks in advance! Love your channel ❤️
@@-sunstar9778 appreciate ya!
During the war, forest had forty horses killed from under him and personally killed forty-one enemy soldiers in combat claiming to have come out “a man ahead”.
He killed a man in a duel before the war and when a disgruntled junior officer burst into his tent and shot him in the arm, he opened his folding knife and killed the young man-later expressing regret for the incident.
Say what you will about the man, he was one tough S.O.B.
Yes….and before he killed that young man he growled “No man kills me and lives!”
Ole Forrest was a fearsome dude.
Thank You for Your very accurate Comment. Gen. Forest was indeed a highly intelligent born Warrior. His men all admired Him, and he always treated the well and fair.
@@marianmoses9604 Amen, my Brother, Amen!
My apology, Marrian, I should have said, "AMEN, my SISTER, Amen!"
29 shot from under him, and he killed 30 men in personal combat. He finished the war "a horse ahead."
Thank you
This is great
Thank you
Agree
Wow, what a piece of history.
Good morning Chris, I liked this letter as I was following the letter as it was being read . Have a great weekend Chris!
Another awesome video. What a man. Great work as always, God bless yall.
Thank you for sharing this.
GREAT STUFF!
I believe, as most Civil War Historians do, that General Nathan Bedford Forrest was the most outstanding Cavalry Commander on either Side. It seems Gen Forrest was a very tough, but highly intelligent and just Man. He seemed to be a born Warrior. At the age of 15, Forrest was attacked by two thieves on a small road besides a Corn Field. When attacked, Forrest immediately drew the Bowie Knife he was known to carry, and in a matter of seconds killed one of the knife welding attackers, while the other armed assailant ran away. I think this event shows the courage, and pure fighting spirit, Forrest had even at 15 years of age. It has also been noted that at times, Forrest displayed a fierce temper to the point of challenging another Officer to a sword, or pistol duel. However, Forrest viewed his enlisted Soldiers as somewhat an extended Family and they were very fond of their Commanding General.
He was a raider, he performed poorly in the standard Cavalry mode.
Another good video !
Thank you for all of your content. I really enjoy your work allowing people to speak for themselves to new generations of people.
Great upload! It is always good to hear about all sides in whatever matter that may be in order to make a rational judgement/ decision! Now, about that keg bbq party I spoke about before , I prefer a lite beer and yes I will help with the cooking !
Love this interview. Thank you.
Stay tuned, another Forrest interview coming on next weeks episode!
@@BirdDogg I look forward to it.
I'm very proud of the fact that I am married to a descendant of Nathan Bedford Forrest. My husband even looks like him, just a little heavier 😁. This was a very interesting and informative look into what this underrated, overlooked and misunderstood general was really like.
Just brilliant!
Mighty fine job ; let us all pray to GOD that our country gets back on track and follw the 10 commandments !
No thanks. I’ll pass.
UNFORTUNATELY, it will continue to go down, this country has already been turned over to a reprobate mind
@@desertdetroiter428
Nobody asked you
@@desertdetroiter428😂😂 The hedonist and immoral would say that...
@@IronCavalier I’m pretty damn anhedonic according to most people. My mark is asceticism. I’ve always been on the straight and narrow and I’ve never needed your white Jesus to remain that way.
Enjoyed this informative video. Dixie General Store Heflin Alabama
Thanks!!
Interesting history for sure.
I am actually related to this man, my granfathers side of the family were formerly known as "The Bedfords" and it is still on his drivers license simply as a "B" however, somewhere along the line we changed our name to the "Chollars". We had a relative who was a Private in some army we went to see around 10 years ago, I was only 5 or so. His last name was Bedford and he was one of our confirmed relatives, Where was he from? Tennessee, who else was from there? General Bedford. He was the first ever Grand Wizard (which is actually extremely honorable as the KKK was formerly a lookout group who helped people before it turned for the worse) I don't know much more because I actually just learned this from my parents, however, it is extremely interesting to learn more about bedford and my family's history.
That was cool 😎
I've read records from Reconstruction regarding the KKK. This interview with Forrest agrees with my recollections of them as far as the actual state of the KKK in that period that there were others who impersonated and that there were Blacks and Jews in the Reconstruction KKK. Today's Republicans tend to paint the CW and the politics of the time with a single brush. It was a very complex time as were the causes of the war and its aftermath. The Republicans were the Radicals of the time. Lincoln was influenced by Karl Marx and many German immigrants who were essentially Marxists (that era form) were in the Army of the Potomac and served in his administration. (See - "Lincoln's Marxists," Benson and Kennedy).
Don't believe nonsense. Do you justify the Democrats by saying that the Republicans weren't pure?
I see. That sums it up. However, no doubt people of the time were more complex than any writings could properly describe. That includes writings from their day and ours.
And old Karl wrote Abe a letter congratulating him on getting re-elected in 1864.
@@keittkatranch5167Wow! Thanks for the fact!
@@keittkatranch5167as an interesting side fact, ole Abe & his radical party grabbed power much FASTER than ole Adolph & his radical party.
I do not believe Lincoln favored Marxism. He said we are all created equal he believed in Freedom and thus freed the slaves. He did not believe the elite should rule over the people
The General smiles from Valhalla.
Valhalla??
He is there with the first is the most is
and so do those he massacred at Fort Pillow
@@brentinnes5151 so do those *who were killed when they refused to surrender at Ft. Pillow.
he cries from hell...
Always a goodun !
If only our forefathers knew the socio-political punching back we Southerners would become, that reconstruction did not stop but has been cruelly and viciously expanded, they would have fought until they or the Yankees were all gone.
I agree, as a Copperhead from New England who lived for 20 years down South and married a great North Carolina lady. Btw, one typo: punching "bag".... You can edit it by clicking on the three dots. :-)
You are so right. The South was held down for over 100 years. In some ways it is still happening.
Not to mention the unleashing of the 13%, which has devastated countless lives and ruined entire cities.
One of my great-greats fought under him.
🫡
This Man is at the top of my hero page.
sad
@birddogg What is the name of the song you use on your videos? I feel like I should know it but can't think of it.
It’s called “dude, where’s my horse” and seems to be the one thing everyone can agree on in my videos 😂
He was hardly illiterate. Despite his words, he was more than capable of applying political violence if necessary and expedient. The mindless violence of the mob was anathema to him.
intelligence and literacy are two different things. He could read but needed clarification, he could write but had an aide-de-camp perform that for him throughout his life.
Very interesting video. I am not sure why people cannot understand that man has always been a complex creature. Everyone from birth on is a product of their environment. Brothers and sisters can grow up in the same home and go to the same schools and yet are as different in their thinking as two total strangers. The only thing that separates a human in 2024 from a human in 1864 is technology. Despite all of the the knowledge available at our fingertips the failure to learn from it is never changing. I am sixty and still do not have the life experience of my father who is ninety. My two brothers both think that they more sophisticated him because they listen at him and not to him. Look at how clueless our leaders are today. What makes you think the leaders of yesteryear were any less clueless. My 24 year old son and his wife think that they are more sophisticated about raising their four month old daughter than than the little girls grandparents. They have no idea what the next 18 years is going to hit them over the head with. So it is with every generation that walks the earth.
@alanmoberly64
Alan, you have wisdom which is supposed to come with age, but unfortunately that is not always the case.
All children should be taught to listen carefully to their parents and grandparents. Also how to discriminate wisdom and good advice from BS and brainwashing. As a Baby Boomer, all that most of us ever got was the last two!
Parents should know to listen to the wisdom of Grandparents. Especially when it comes to raising children.
@@PeterLaughton I was in my thirties by the time my children came along. I raised them with as much wisdom as I could. Unfortunately it seems every generation has to go through its hard knocks to find out maybe dad was not wrong.
Deo Vindice [X]
So much for the racist claims of today.
Exactly. It’s all media lies and propaganda to keep us divided. A divided people are easier to control.
He was certainly a racist. He just made an effort to keep a civil tongue in print.
@@dang328 He choose black soldiers to ride and work with him and said there were no soldiers better. He loved black people. His actions were not of a racist and to accuse him of such endangers you in violation of the 9th commandment. May God have mercy on your soul. Repent!!!!!
@@lecil2 he sold slaves... he loved black people who were in their place as laborers. You see this sentiment often in the old south. Our old slave so and so was a member of our family and we loved him. Nowhere will you see him make the statement that the negro is the equal of a white man. Use the brain God gave you.
@@lecil2 he sold slaves, fought as a Confederate soldier, was one of the first supporters of the ku klux klan. I hope sense finds you soon sir.
A story I read, I believe in one of Ronald & Donald Kennedy's books, told about a large gathering of blacks in Memphis in the early 1890s. The situation deteriorated and was approaching riot conditions. The black leaders persuaded Forrest to come and speak, and he accepted the invitation, and all the people went home peacefully afterwards. I did not see a footnote for that story. Can any of you provide documentation?
Also, Forrest is reputed to have said he was not afraid of anything, except his wife.
I’m not sure I’ve heard that one. I do know he spoke at the pole bearers association(an all black organization) encouraging integration and equality, and that he once offered the governor to personally chase down a group of white men who had killed some blacks.
Not in the 1890's. He was dead by then
@@lonniemonroe2714 Indeed, Oct. 29th 1877.
@@lonniemonroe2714 Yeah, just looked it up. He died 1877, Oct 29. He did have a son, William Montgomery Bedford Forrest llll. I hope someday I will find that story again and reread it.
Interesting: Forrest City, AR located on the western slope of Crowley’s Ridge near the center of St. Francis County, has been a center of commerce and trade since its incorporation in 1870. Serving as the county seat since 1874, the city is named in honor of Confederate general Nathan Bedford Forrest. It is the only such named city in the world spelled with two Rs.
Don't know about the wifey quote, have read though that only man N.B.feared was his brother, Ezekiel😮
I am a senior and have been a history buff of the War Between the States for decades. I have my own extensive collection of books from both sides. I have to admit I have never seen that letter from General Forrest.
Could you please tell me where you found it? Also, thanks again for another very informative and interesting video.
It’s available online, just search Nathan Forrest fort Pillow interview and it should come up for you.
Thank you.@@BirdDogg
General Forest be like; don’t throw shade on me by misquoting my statements.
Looking at photos of Forrest, I can't help thinking that if he had a silver "N" on his forehead and was wearing a lab coat instead of a uniform, he'd be the live-action version of "Crash Bandicoot" villain Dr. Neo Cortex...
4:35 "I loved the old Government in 1861; I love the Constitution yet. I think it is the best government in the world if administered as it was before the war. I do not hate it; I am opposing now only the radical revolutionists who are trying to destroy it. I believe that party to be composed, as I know it is in Tennessee, of the worst men on God's earth - men who would hesitate at no crime, and who have only one object in view, to enrich themselves"
Unfortunately to the victors go the spoils, history, .....
GOD BLESS GENERAL FORREST.
God bless Captain Willam Anderson to
Fit in perfect in the magical kingdom today.
I reckon so 👍
Uncle Nate!
Notice the ‘ CSA’ rank on his collar have been yellowed out? I won’t watch any historical documentary that has been edited. What else has been done?
Well you’re in luck, this isn’t a historical documentary, it’s an audio dictation of a historically documented interview, supplemented with available pictures of the subject matter. As it were, the original photo is sepia toned and does little for the quick visual necessary for a successful thumbnail whereas the colorized versions available pop. Creating these videos takes quite a bit of time away from my actual job and as I am also in the midst of trying to build a home(my first at nearly 50 years old and I decided to build it all literally myself) out on the coast, some seven hours away from where I now live in Appalachia, I do the best I can with them. I think if you have a quick glance around the 500 or so some odd videos I’ve produced for the channel, it will become apparent relatively quickly that I have done a little more than a cursory study of the civil war. I do look forward to seeing your content however, do keep me posted as to when you get around to creating some.
My GrGrGrandfather fought under Forrest.
Truly a great video but I also say that the words spoken in this video are against my people….🌚🙏🏿🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I’m thankful that the war brought them further into the fold of America and afforded them the opportunity to thrive in this country. I think a lot of people assume that in my documenting history I favor one side or the other of the debate when in reality, I am just grateful and in awe of the sacrifices all of these men made, white, black and everything in between to afford us the opportunities we have today. I appreciate you dropping in with an open mind. Be well Mark!
He was opposed to " Negro suffrage " under any and all circumstances. That's a part of this history i find extremely uncomfortable.
As a southern i find it incredibly exhausting the way so many people in the South cannot admit that the confederacy was wrong. The entire southern sytem was built around upholding and protecting slavery and white supremacy. That was the number on reaon for behind each state's decision to secede from the Union. And the reason that they fought to protect that system of slavery was money. The economy of the South was agricultural. And all those rich plantation owners couldn't maintain their wealth if they had to pay for the labor of which produced that wealth for them. But as a result of the myth of the lost cause a nd romanticizing of this time period as being simpler and hearkening back to the good old days. It has blinded many Southerns into believing that this false narrative. The white southerner was taking advantage of through this system as well. The entire system of slavery was bad for both sides The slaver and the enslaved. I have many ancestors that served in Confederate Army. Several that were killed in Action. I do not for one second believe that they served a righteous cause. I understand the reason that they served but it still doesn't change the fact that they were fighting for the wrong side and I'm glad the South lost unfortunately many southerns had to lose their lives northerners too. But why is it so difficult for many Southerners to get over the fact that the South anit gonna rise again and the correct side won the war. As for the south suffering under reconstruction that is true and you can thank a fellow Southern for that Johnson did a terrible job and had Lincoln not been assassinated i believe things would have been much better but that is just speculation on my part. Surely it would not have been worse Lincoln had the ability to control the party and i believe there would have been far less corruption and greed.
That’s a mouthful. With that said, the end of slavery was the result of the war, the cause was money. Slavery was a legal practice at the onset of the war and remained so for many northern and border states throughout the war including, Vermont, New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland Kentucky and Missouri(some of these even retained slaves after the war.) Once the war had begun, the north fully controlled the congress. Why was a law or amendment not passed by them? As to reconstruction, for my money, educating the slave population and integrating them into society with some tangible skills even if it took longer, would have been far more preferable than simply turning them out from the plantation, uneducated, unemployable and unwanted by the northern masses (racism was equally as present in northern states before, during and after the war and in fact today, in modern society, the highest number of racist hate crimes occur in New York and California.) Jefferson Davis actually had a plan with his brother Joseph to do just that and all of the slaves from his plantation were educated at the college level, self governed and went on after the war to form the first all black town in America, mound bayou. I for one find it exhausting that people are still so obsessed with denigrating the dead while attempting to erase documented historic realities, replacing them with talking points all while crying over documented history being shared and preserved… Those ancestors of yours from the south, they very likely did not own slaves but likely either marched off to war to protect their family, friends and community or were possibly some of the nearly 400,000 confederate troops (more than half of the entire confederate army) who were conscripted under the threat of death. There are nuances to war and to the casual historian those nuances are often neglected. Will history deem you and I as savages who separated families at borders, bombed innocent women and children, provided weapons of mass destruction to foreign nations to feed our unending consumerist greed all while digitally opining on our moral superiority through devices created on the backs of child and slave labor? I mean, America is doing it. We’re Americans right? Remove the nuance and we are left with no alternative future. I wonder if there will be statues for the virtue signal warriors. Doubtful.
@@BirdDogg you are correct there was a lot of nuance involved in the lead up to the war I understand that racism was not exclusive to the South Andi know all off what you said about Jefferson Davis in regards to The treatment and education of his slaves is true does not change the fact the were still enslaved. And I have done an incredible amount of genealogy and know that the reason my ancestors fought was for there home it does not change my view that they were on the wrong side and that secession was wrong. The war between the states was a terrible time in the history of this country but at the end of the day I'm glad it's still this country and then it's not the Confederacy and the Union to separate countries. I'm a descendant of Henry Clay the senator that with every ounce of his being held the union together. And Jefferson Davis probably treated his slaves much better than Henry Clay did because he treated his fairly poorly.
@@BirdDogg In what Northern States was Slavery legal? Border States are Southern Slave states. For Congress in those particular Slave (border) states to pass Bills into Amendments takes time and reparations for the slaveholders to be discussed. It didn't happen overnight and with a war going on other economic necessities took front burner.
@@scottgoens7575 Well, technically the emancipation only freed slaves in states that seceded(which, in that they had seceded was sort of a moot point.) One example I can list off the top of my head is New Jersey who kept slaves until 1866.
@@jeremybumbalough82 I don’t disagree with any of that
They need to stop trying to rename Forrest Hall at MTSU. Feelings don’t change American history.
Nathan Bedford Forrest was the Otto Scorzeny of the confederacy. He was tall , skillful, and also cruel , unscrupulous and brutal . A very effective monster
Out of the Saddle Forrest was a compassionate man. He would even visit the Union Wounded Soldier's and made sure his men and prisoners heard a Sermon on Sundays. His men captured a Union Minister. Forrest sent for him and the Preacher thought he was going to get killed. Forrest asked him to say Grace and have dinner with him and his Officers. Forrest after a while after letting the Union Preacher preach Forrest took the Preacher back to Union Lines. Forrest told him as much as we like your preaching the sinners on the other side need you more. Please Google Forrest's Speech to the Independent Pole Barers which was the Foundation of the NAACP. Forrest said that there have been many things said about me. There are Black and White Men here that served with me before, during and after the war that will tell you those things aren't true. Forrest's Funeral Procession was over 2 miles long. Over 3,000 Blacks came to show their respect for the Great General that did so much for them after the war. Forrest was a victim of Propaganda because he was causing havoc on the Union.
Respect to forrest but he played both side's. 😂
I’ve always viewed him as a man of practicality.
Contrast the General’s articulation while speaking to the journalist with the stories we’ve heard about him, i.e. “Firstest with the mostest.”
Stay tuned, another great Forrest interview is coming up in next weeks episode!
@@BirdDogg Most commenters would prefer a response to their comment.
@@aguy559 Well, it is a response. The upcoming video continues to exhibit Forrest’s command of the language. I get hundreds of comments a day though on the 500 some odd videos I have on the channel, I can’t respond in long form to all of them but I do however pop in from time to time between my increasingly hectic work schedule (I work about 16 hours a day editing for not only my real work(producing safety compliance videos for the government) but also trying to improve the quality of the videos I produce here and continue to try and create growth for the channel in the hopes that it might continue to supplement my efforts at building my first home completely myself(learning to build a house at nearly 50 yrs old on property seven hours from where I currently live 🤦🏻♂️ ) At any rate, I’m hustling hard and do my best to reply in the few moments a day a grab my phone to see if CZcams has buried my content again or if anyone is alive out there (it’s lonesome here editing and my dogs are terrible conversationalists.) ok, back to work for now. Thanks for popping in and for sharing your thoughts
@@aguy559 Did you not really want a response?
@@BirdDogg Did you delete my initial reaction comment out of misguided over-caution or was it CZcams AI this time? It's getting hard to tell these days and I'm sick of it; leaving yt due to the constant deleting of comments. YT is an enemy of free speech and that is NOT acceptable in any way. Hope you will post your interviews on R .. (um) ... -- ble, where I am shifting all of my video watching hours. Thank you.
superb video, i wonder how the likes of general forrest will be looked upon as the modern United States slides towards the clutches of cultural Marxism and the contemporary leaders seem to be ashamed of all US history never mind the confederacy? it is disgusting to think that in Seattle i believe, there is a statue of the Soviet tyrant Lenin which people do not seem concerned about yet strenuous efforts are made to remove all statues and commemorations of Confederate leaders and generals, i am english and our country is experiencing similar events to the United States at the moment
It is impolitic, not impolite, as your narrator read.
Only sorry the south lost.
You got that right my friend God save the South CSA forever
Do you mean slavery should be legal?
@@RAV1953
Slavery was legal in the Union and lasted longer in Union States then Southern states
The south lost. The poor ignorant people followed the treasonous southern “politicians“ and ,the folks from the south suffered greatly during this war. Sounds familiar doesn’t it?
@@RAV1953 Whites didn't invent slavery, whites ended it world wide. Although if the south would have won integration wouldn't have been forced at gunpoint ultimately getting to what we have today. A degenerate and declining civilian.
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I find it sad that the word “Negro” has to be buffered out. This is history. It is not a disrespectful word.
Uploading it without it blocked got the video blocked, had to scramble to re-upload. It happens to the channel all the time. Oddly my recent WWII videos have all been getting blocked and I have to re-do them.
@@BirdDogg yes, I figured it was CZcams, they can show blood and guts on some things and the progressive overly sensitive woke generation just can’t handle real life and real history. Thank you for what you do , it was an amazing video❤️🇺🇸
What the North did starting a war with the South was illegal since all the Southern states joined the Union of their own free will. The South had a right to secede from the Union.
Secession is not a right by the Constitution. The only way a state can secede is with the vote of all states represented in Congress. They can't just walk out and quit because the going got tough.
Attacking Federal troops started the war...
@@scottgoens7575 The Articles of Confederation had a provision stating 'a perpetual union'.
The Constitution was prepared under the pretext of amending the Articles. To form under the Constitution did not require all states to leave the Confederation but only 9 (from memory). What does that tell you? It tells me that the STATES determined their sovereign. So, having formed it, they could leave it.
Lincoln was wrong and knew he was wrong. He needed the slavery issue to give him a high minded reason for killing 1.2 million men.
Saying the war killing over a million men was justified by one fort being attacked is silly. As is said, follow the money. The war was economic. The trade tariff North versus the free trade South. Lot of money is made in a war.
Why wasn't Jefferson Davis and other CSA officeholders/legislators not prosecuted after the war? They knew they would lose.
All these great tacticians and leaders and the north struggle with commanders yet the south lost. I guess they were not all that great. Huh
In fairness, politicians are most often the downfall of any military operation, not the soldiers. With that said, the union had more than twice the soldiers of the confederacy.
@@BirdDogg So you blame Jefferson Davis? The relationship between the Political Commander and the Strategic Commander is as follows: The Political Commander spells out the political goal. The Strategic Commander is responsible for devising the plan to achieve that goal. (This is why Lincoln and McClellan never worked... McClellan disagreed with the political goal. Turns out McClellan was wrong. Lincoln and Grant were in synch the results bare this out.)
@@scottgoens7575 Davis was all over the place and he certainly didn’t help what would have been an uphill battle regardless. A protracted war, dwindling resources, varying degrees of communication or lack thereof, they had their work cut out for them even if they were bowling 300 and they weren’t.
@@BirdDogg I agree Davis didn't help, but then neither did Lee. A protracted war was the CSA Strategy with bloodshed pushing peace policy of the political north to cease.
Getting back to Lee, he had one job and that was to keep his Army intact. Frontal assaults depleted the mighty ANV to a shell of itself in less than two years.
The resources were there (beans and bullets) in was the supply system that was civilian controlled that failed the CSA. The CSA had hamstrung itself on states rights preventing the CSA government from taking control.
@@scottgoens7575 I think Lee’s heart was only half in it. He didn’t care about slavery and I think he would have preferred to keep the union, he however, like many of that time were more loyal to their family, friends and communities. Lee felt that pressure to remain loyal to Virginia.
They changed my hs nb forrest to hs 123.Doesn't bother me to take these racists democrats name down.
God Bless Dixie, The Dukes, Dr. David Duke, and Alabama Governor George Wallace!!!
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@@brentinnes5151 supwize ma'am.
Bedford Forest has been reincarnated as Donald Trump!
Trump is a buffoon and rich boy. Forrest was self made and a warrio
and trump started the civil war...and ww2!! yeah!!! you go girl!
I concur with Shelby Foote, that the two geniuses the war produced were Abraham Lincoln and *Nathan Bedford Forrest.*