CHEAP TaylorMade driver is BETTER than Qi10! (Shocking results)
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In this H.I.T review video, Rick Shiels tests the latest and greatest Taylormade Qi10 Driver against the Sim 2 driver from 3 years ago - which is currently HALF of the the price of the Qi10. Is it half as good? Watch the video to find out!
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Qi10 is for people that need the newest equipment to shoot an 85. The Sim 2 is for people that drink 10 beers, smoke 2 cigars and shoot an 85
lol
I have a Sim 2 and you described me to a T.
If anyone has 10 cans in I don't think they'll shoot an 85 with out giving themselves a mulligan every hole lol doesn't matter what driver you have I don't think that's a case.
@@TonySgolf I feel that because it’s unlikely statistically but yes it’s very doable, I stay mid 80s almost all the time and I’m always liquored up, but however we do use a breakfast ball to begin as we don’t usually hit the range
Taylormade marketing department waking up Sunday morning in a panic😂
Tune in next year when they release the QS2. Quest for Sim2.
It’s always fun to see what kind of bs they’ll come up with
I fell for the marketing hype. I play a ping 430 and got the 10k. Immediately sold it. My 430 is back in the bag and I apologized to her.
@@patface the 10k is odd, I hated it, a lot of people I know didnt understand it. Maybe there are levels to this, luckily i hit one before replacing.
If Rick ever disappears Taylormade is going to be behind it.
I’ve been saying this for a while now. I think the SIM2 is the best driver since the M2! Thanks Rick, now everyone is going to buy up all the still new SIM2 drivers and selling them online at a marked up price.
I just upgraded from the M2 to the sim2 and I have to agree with you out of all the TaylorMade drivers I tested those two were my favorite!
I still use an m2, awesome driver
I bought the sim 2 after my m2 started to get stress cracks. Love both of them.
lol, yea "everyone"
I just bought a sim2 and it’s great.
absolutely love this testing format. Comparing the new to a couple years old. I hope it continues for all new drivers and iron sets For those of us on a budget this really helps! Thanks Rick
I still game the Callaway x2 hot irons for this reason. Watched an old review of Ricks when I was scouring the used market and haven't even thought about changing since and those are now 10 year old clubs. Technology has come far but there wasn't going to be exponential growth forever either. Irons may have gotten 5-10 yards more distance per club and 5% more forgiving in that time and that's not nearly enough to justify the new sets being 5-10 times the price of something only a couple years older.
If you're into the low handicap, flush with cash, and looking to treat yourself to a full fitting, then maybe. If not, there are better ways to use that money over time on golf improvement without breaking the bank on brand new clubs.
Was going to say the same thing. Would love to see a Calloway one next!
@@GlitchGadget72 Clubs have been hitting 5 to 10 yards further for each model now past 20 years but people still drive the same as back then, funny is it not.
@@t0nje Some things really never change.
So I bought the SIM 2 max 2nd hand a month ago and love it. It’s way more forgiving than my TaylorMade RBZ and slightly longer, but the RBZ is around 10 years older. I’m so glad to hear the SIM2 max holds its own against the Qi10 as I felt super guilty on scrooging out on the old model. Thanks heaps for helping to justify my tight arse decision Rick! TaylorMade released a video with Scottie, Rory, Collin, Tommy etc. where they talked up the Qi10 saying how it was now most forgiving driver they had released - but they also showed a graph that indicated the SIM2 Max and M4 were sitting at 8700 MOI vs the Stealth at 8200 MOI vs Qi10 at 1000 MOI. Perhaps that MOI margin between the SIM2 Max and Qi10 is negligible when you switch the shaft to the Qi10 shaft, as Rick did. Great content as always RS 🎉
The SIM2 Max would more realistically match up with the regular Qi10 instead of the Max though.
yes but the Sim he used wasn't the forgiving model and it still was more forgiving than the Qi10's most forgiving model that's the main thing I focused on TM isn't heading in a good direction imo
@@ItsOvAnakinIHaveTheHighGround the SIM2 Max was the forgiving model but at the time they only had 2 models in the lineup so nothing that would directly compete with the Qi10 Max.
Also, swapping out the shaft kind of invalidates the test because a person couldn’t buy the SIM2 Max in the configuration he used, so it wasn’t “off the rack vs off the rack”. Makes a price comparison tough.
@@mulvihillmattmax D is the most forgiving of the sim2 I believe. I have it and love it
@@mulvihillmattthe point is that it’s half the price. You shouldn’t be getting remotely similar results for something half the price, much less better results.
@@mulvihillmattsim2 was the low spin, sim2 max was the core model and sim 2 max d was the most forgiving one
I played with a Taylor Made rental set a few years ago, which included a SIM2 Max Driver. To this day, it is one of the best drivers I have ever hit. I love that you made this video, because to be honest, the latest drivers are pricing a lot of people out of the market, which is unfortunate. However, it is increasingly evident that the purported "gains" may not actually not be worth the extra money for non professional golfers anyway...
Yep. I rarely see anyone walking into a shop and buying a brand new driver off the shelf. Why? I would bet the price is the deal breaker for that decision. So why are all drivers $450+ now if they know people are less willing to buy them when they look at the price? Because the manufacturers are monopolies. They figure since the other brand is selling for $450+, then they might as well too. They could be selling the same driver brand new for $300 and still make a profit, but they won’t because it will mess up the entire industry. Lame isn’t it.
@@JacesOwnWorld That isn't what a monopoly is. And the sim2 is just as guilty of pricing people out as any other driver.. It was like 550 dollars when it came out 3 years ago...
Same thing bro !!! Played with a sim2 rental driver and loved it
I recently just bought the Sim2 Max and love it! It’s a great driver at a great price!
I bought it a little bit ago and haven't figured it out quite yet. When I connect it flies tho. Average might be lower than my 21 year old Cleveland launcher I was gaming. Work in progress.
OMG! Amazing results, as I currently have the Sim 2 Max in the bag now and will keep that for much longer now! Nice to have you back! Love the reviews!
Sim 2 Max is designed to be closer to the core Qi10 head than the Qi10 Max head. As you mentioned, the Qi10 Max head is really designed for maximum forgiveness and is not a distance oriented design. It would be interesting to see you test Sim 2 Max vs. Qi10 core for a better comparison. I do think Sim 2 is one of the best drivers ever produced by TaylorMade and certainly the better deal on the market right now.
Just purchased the Sim2 Max after having played my Callaway Diablo Octane driver for the last 10+ years. I’m just blown away at how tight the dispersion is on the Sim2 Max even on off-center hits. I’ve gained at least 10/15 yards and the sound is just so sweet!! An amazing driver!!!
Amazing video! The unbiased comparison that we love to see, showcasing the latest models versus the “old” ones and helping us to get more for our pennies. Keep doing it, Rick!
Great review Rick!!! I have had 2 SIM2 drivers, when I started playing i bought a 12 degree one and this year I changed for a 9 degree SIM2 as well. Love it!!!❤
These comparisons are great. Looking forward for what's to come.
Straight forward review. Honest opinion. And finally someone who uses the same shaft in a comparison!! Thank you
Love this concept of trying the older clubs and see how they compare to the latest and greatest!! Keep doing it!
SO HAPPY to see this channel back alive... also i love my QI10 3 wood... def worth in my opinion
Thanks for bringing the HIT channel back Rick, really enjoy your reviews!
I'm still using my 2021 M4 but may upgrade to the SIM2 after seeing this video
I've had a SIM2 Max since it came out and I've now got this video bookmarked for every time I get the itch to replace it :D
This is the content I have been waiting for. Speaking as someone who does not buy new equipment because the cost is outrageous these days. Seeing older clubs match up against the newer clubs is great education.
Love your videos Rick! You were the first youtube golfer i came across when I started watching. I have followed you since then! Love the H.I.T! As I father of two I don’t get to play nearly as much as I would have liked. And when you live in a small town in northern Sweden the season ain’t that long 😅 but your videos always cheer up! Keep it real boss! Love from Sweden 🎉
I had a similar experience with my Sim 2 Max a few weeks ago. I tried the Qi10 because I've been struggling with missing left with my driver. Initially I liked the performance of the Qi10 until my fitter swapped the shaft from the Qi10 into my Sim 2 Max. Misses left eliminated and about 5-7 extra yards of carry with my 3 year old driver. My fitter let me do the shaft swap for free since I was buying two new wedges that I was fitted for they day. New isn't always better.
I can CZcams anything golf - and you have the exact comparison I am looking for… ALWAYS! Thank you and keep up the great content
Rick! I love that you made this video! When you did the review of the QI10 I commented and said I wanted to try it and replace my Sim2 Max. This confirms all of my feelings about the Sim2 vs any of their carbon faced drivers. Great video!
This was a great video!!!
Carrying on from that, how about a g400 max (apparently the FIRST 10k MOI driver) vs the g430 10k max!!
As an owner of a g400 max, I’d love to see that…
Looking forward to the double weekly videos!
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I've been looking at new drivers every year and the G400 max outperforms all the ones I've been trying. Still have it in the bag
I play the sim 2 max driver and 3 wood. I wont be taking them out of the bag no time soon. One of my golfing buddies wanted to try it, he was like what the hell!! He loved it and is going to buy one as well. Thank you Rick...
Good to see the channel back, this shows u should try older models to see if it suits ur swing & don’t just buy the new model, great honest review
Thanks Rick. This is an important expose for the majority of golfers, who still buy off-the-shelf. I'd love to see you do something similar with each of the major brands, provided the price benefit was there.
Tested a few drivers recently and the Qi10 was my favourite. Off the back of this video, I just bought a Sim 2 Max as it came with my preferred shaft as standard. Loved it on the range so far, can’t wait to take it out on the course!
As a senior golfer, I own both the SIM2 MAX and M5 drivers. When my back is feeling normal, I opt for the M5 with the Fujikura Speed regular shaft. However, if I'm experiencing discomfort due to an abnormal back condition, I switch to the SIM2 MAX with the Ventus Blue senior shaft. Despite yearly trials of new drivers using a launch monitor, I've noticed little variance in performance. Instead of constantly investing in new clubs, consider adjusting the balance point by adding lead tape to the club head or grip butt to optimize your current driver's performance.
another great video! ive been looking at the new taylormade mini driver are you looking at doing a review on it in the future i want a non biased opinion before i would think about getting one! keep killing it
It’s because of you I got the Sim2 Max. And with the money I saved, I used my savings to buy the Brnr Mini Driver as well. Great call Rick!
I went from the M4 D-Type to the Sim2... love the Sim2... great video Rick👍🏻
I literally just purchased my SIM2 Max half off and this video pops up. Thank Rick!
Great video! These are best review videos, it’s pointless to review new clubs without a comparison of older models. Do the new Darkspeed drivers vs LTDX drivers next! Nice job.
Great video! I’m guessing maybe you do this but it doesn’t appear like it in the video but is hitting a few different sets alternating. When you have an extra couple mph in club head speed on the second one, almost seems like you just finally got warmed up. Could also be just the confidence in that SIM 2, but if you did a couple sets with each, would remove that variable. I have always loved the SIM 2 and the way it looks.
Cheers Rick love the honest opinion. Really insightful video. Keep them coming on this channel ☺️
This was very interesting to see. You can’t dispute the data. Some of these big manufacturers simply market the hell out of the “new” club failing to deliver the results. This is why the HIT channel is so important!
So crazy story. I just left a callaway fitting for the TD smoke. I was hitting my epic speed further and straighter than the new club. We used the same Ventus Blue shaft but like Rick’s experiment here the old driver was the better option.
Rick, thanks for this timely review. I have had the Sim2 driver for the last couple of years. I love the solid feel when hitting the ball. No other driver I have feels like that. I think for people using a Ping or Titleist driver, it takes a little bit of time to get used to it. I find it fairly forgiving, but I hit the ball pretty straight anyway. Again, thanks for this review. And I can rest easy tonight, LOL.
I have a TaylorMade M3 that is a 440cc model. It has been hot melted at some point before I owned it. It is 11g heavier than other M3 heads I have weighed and actually has a left to right ball flight when the weights are neutral. This club head hit as far or farther than anything I have tried. Regardless of brand or how new it is. I have a new Krank Fire- I have a G425LST- I have a Sim Max. Every new driver that comes out- I go try it at Golf Galaxy near me. None are measurably better than my M3.
Rick funny story I was in the market for a new driver and golf pro actually fitted me for this in January 2024 and in February 8 I played 18 holes for the first time with this driver I was in the fairway and long distance. Love this driver totally worth the money.
i got the TM sim 2 about 2 years ago as a pretty new golfer, had a cheap tommy armour as my first, then went to TM M4, then got the SIM 2, and i can promise you, the feel isnt even close and forgiveness is amazing. dont get me wrong, it definitely wont fix a slice (i know from experience) but when i strike it good i can got 300 yards out of it, and i have only been playing golf for about 3.5 years (in cold climate so i only get a few months out of the year to actually play). i dont see myself getting a new driver anytime soon.
Went through this exact process recently. I have the SIM2 and thought it had been a few years, let’s look at the new models this year for a purchase. I went up and down at a fitting with my SIM2 against all the top brands new drivers and the numbers did not change at all.
No reason to buy a new one. I got a new shaft and called it a day!
Great to see you compare clubs with the new (not so new channel) back to your roots Rick, keep them coming. Very interesting outcome. Hmmm
I have a M2 from 2016, it's great. I was considered getting something new after watching this no chance now. Rick test the old M2! Great content!
I just remembered that the Qi10 Max actually has a squashed head to spread the weight wider. Because of that change, the hosel is shorter and the club plays shorter regardless of the shaft you use. This could explain a little of the distance loss.
This club is just not a good fit for a player like Rick. This has been mentioned, but again, the standard Qi10 would be a better comparison.
Have just purchased one of the sim max 2 drivers and love it, really enjoy3d your review and am pleased I made the correct decision getting one
My old man lives in Spain and was looking for new driver, bought the sim2 as was cheaper in uk and shipped to my house. Obv had to give it a go and pretty nice. I’m convinced every taylormade driver has been the same for 10 years, can’t see anything replacing my m2
Some parts in the BGM sound like a straight final fantasy rip and I’m here for it
Really love those comparisons!!
Myself im playing the Sim2Max , still a great driver. But to be honest the Sim2Max should be compared to the Qi10 Core Which is the legit successor.
The Qi10Max is more comparable to the Sim2Max HD back then, which was the Most forgiving head.
Still enjoyed the Video.
Thx a lot!!
Just the Standard Version, which sits between the LS and the Max , its the succesor of the Sim2Max and the Stealth (2) , which ist quite confusing i know 😅
@@nicolaijohnigk478 still there was sim2 ,sim2 max and sim2 ls , so I feal that its fair to compare the 2 max .
@@jimbojones420qc no there wasnt a sim2LS , the sim2 was the low spinning tour preferred Option.
The lineup was Sim2, Sim2 Max, Sim2 Max D
Interesting point you made there Rick!
I play my golf with a SIM 2 driver and I wanted to update and buy a QI10 new driver, but now you make me to rethink about it. Do I really need to spend that kind of money on a new club when I already have a goodone in my bag? Great video Rick, as always. Cheers mate!
just tested it against my Sim2 Max. The sim2 felt better and had much better flight and was longer. it'll stay in the bag for a little longer.
Hit the Qi10, Stealth 2, and the Sim 2 Max side by side this year. Went with the Sim 2 in a landslide. Immediately noticed straighter and longer drives (coming from an M4).
Promise made promise kept. Love review videos! Keeps me informed on new and old golf equipment. Suggestion: review golf gloves, specifically red rooster brand. Best glove I’ve ever used.
Thanks for the comparison Rick! I play the SIM 2 and tested all the Qi releases. I'm not "upgrading" this year. I could be completely wrong, but I just don't think the carbon face is the right way to go.
Super excited excited about the results 🥳 I have this SIM2 Max. It just proves I can keep it for few more years and maybe invest in wedges (which are some random clubs more than 10 years old)
Great review 😊 Would love to see a comparison of Sim2, stealth and Qi10 hybrids
Got the Sim2 Max when it first came out and loved it. Still do. Will be keeping it in the bag for at least another 3 or 4 years after watching this!
Would actually love to see a slightly older driver put in the bag this year Rick.
Will you ve reviewing the pxg drivers and the new TM brnr mini driver?
Maybe on future reviews mix up the club. Like 5 swings with club A then 5 with club B and do that a couple of times. Especially when you see a swing speed pick up on second club. Could just be from loosening up.
Love your reviews.
Do you have a video comparing the stealth 1 and 2 to the qi10? Interested to see how much if anything has changed other than the model name.
bought one yesterday. Tested really well on the range and it sounds and feels amazing.
Excellent comparison video mate! Another great way of saving money in this game! 🤙🏻
great review. different comparison for me, out of curiosity i recently compared my TSR3 to the original SIM driver. no brainer, that SIM has no forgiveness.
Always interesting to see reviews like this. Another good one would be the callaway mavrik vs the paradym as you can get the mavrik for £230 new at the moment
Glad to see your back to reviewing clubs again.
Glad you’re back. Wow, what a collection of clubs.
Great job! Your honesty and integrity is without question.
Rick, love the videos on this chanel, would love to see a shaft comparison between fujikura velocore blue vs the new fujikura velocore plus blue
Thanks Rick, I was looking to replace the ping , this has made my choice 👍 a little easier
I bought the Ping G425 and I’ll tell you what, the SiM2 is way lighter and I really prefer the Sim2 over the Ping.
In 2017, Rick did a series of 5 year comparison videos for Drivers from all Major Golfing brands. If I'm honest I would love for an updated 5 year comparison series. The 2017 Cobra video just showed how inconsistent they were year to year, I feel like they have come a long way. Also I really need to upgrade my club from my 2002 driver.
Just bought a brand new Sim2 Max on sale, so I'm very happy with these test results!
I think there needs to be a sequel to this video…. But instead of Qi10 Max, use the Qi10 “Core”. Would be curious to see if the ball speeds are more comparable but also curious if dispersion gets even wider with that new ball speed.
Anyways, always appreciate these videos. You help us cut through the marketing crapola
I’ve got the Sim MAX 2 and I love it. Was wracking my brain wondering about getting a QI10, no need! It’s staying in the bag for a long while now!
I tried the SIM2 max when it came out. That and the Callaway Epic Speed and TSI3 driver. The TSI3 was miles ahead of both of them. Now have the AI Smoke which is even better.
I'm a Taylormade guy but I recently got the Cobra LTDx as a gift and instantly saw an improvement in my game. I would love to see how the LTDx compares to the new DarkSpeed.
I currently have the TM sim 2 max in the bag upgrading from the TM R1. Absolutely love the sim 2
I bought the sim2 about a month ago. I tested out 10 different drivers, mostly new models, and still had the best results with the sim2!
This is very helpful, Rick! I wonder if the drop in performance is due to the carbon face? That would seem to be the only real change.
I played with a pal last week who had just bought the new QI10 Max and he couldn't hit it out of his way. I gave him a go with my Ping i15 driver (yes old model) and he hardly missed a fairway. He told me on Sat night he had traded his TM for a 2nd hand Ping G430 Max (ordinary model) and is very pleased.
I really like my queeten max. I got the design studio one with the light blue face and I feel so dang confident with it. Gonna use it for a while
I have actually just made the switch from my SIM2 (regular version, not max), to the QI10 Max but with the same shaft. I am very pleasently suprised with the QI10, it holds ball speed on miss hits so much better and I actually like the feel in this third iteration of the carbon face. the general dispersion has also improved as the misses with the QI10 seem to be more push or pull instead of slice and hook.
I usually don't like the look of bigger drivers, but I was also very suprised that the QI10 does not look as massive as other Max drivers I have seen in the past.
I got one mint a few weeks ago. Excited to try now. Great comparison.
Great review Rick. Been waiting on this one. Your the only person that will review the sim 2 against the new ones
Thank you Rick! I love these tests.
I agree with you Rick. I feel that the SIM2 max driver and even the irons are some of the best "forgiving with performance" clubs you can get still new right now and with good prices.
Just bought one love it it’s loooong , I’ve had the 3 wood for a while and it goes miles of the tee as well 😁👊🏻
Made this move early this week! Thanks for confirming my suspensions 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
suspensions? 🤣 suspicions 🤣🤙🏻 dont blame auto correct either.
Upgraded from Nike Sumo to Sim 2 couple months ago. Completely changed my driving game
You should do this with a few of the old cobra heads too! Like the LTDx, the last time they used a CNC milled face design.
Would love to see Rick review their new mini driver. I know he wasn’t impressed with the one a few years ago but for a mid handicapper that struggles off the tee the new mini is an absolute weapon!
Bought the Sim2Max 2 1/2 years ago at an end of year sale to replace my R7. Excellent club.
Rick loved the video could you do more of these comparisons! I’m currently using very old clubs want to upgrade but don’t need the latest and greatest. Also have you ever reviewed takoma or stix?
Tried all of the new drivers, bought a SIM2 Max last week best numbers of all of them, the SIM2 takes some beating.
I have just taken up golf. I bought the Taylormade M4 2021 irons 5-PW and the SIM2 Max Driver.
Great review Rick. Wonder how many of the new Drivers this year are better than their predecessors.
Rick are you putting the SIM2 MAX in the bag?
love the Vessel set up Rick. very nice
I have a sim2 (non max version) and just got fitted 2 days ago for a QI10 (also non max version) after watching your QI10 review Rick, you sold me . Have not ordered it yet, but now you got me all confused Rick! Either way I need to change my head from a 10.5 to a 9 (and yes I am aware it’s adjustable) maybe I just get a 9 degree sim2 head on eBay 😂
I still use my sim2. Couldn’t get on with the stealth 1 or 2 in testing and didn’t see an improvement with qi10. I love the driver and will take something pretty groundbreaking to release for me to replace it I reckon
Like I been saying for the past 5 years, driver technology has reached it's max! I believe for the past 2 years that the manufacturers have been reaching for something new with no success. Driver technology is the best that it's going to get! They can't make them bigger, they can 't make them lighter. So if you have a driver from the past 3 years your good.
Great review and really helpful.