U.G. Krishnamurti - Sorry, You Only Have Your Fantasy
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
- Solipsism in your faces!
Books on U.G. Krishnamurti:
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This Dog Barking: The Strange Story of U.G. Krishnamurti - amzn.to/2ZnDG9m
Ok I went on a binge and watched all his videos. This fellow had been repeating the same thing from 1976 to 2007 and people still asked him the same questions and we still watch him.
Yup, just like that =)
And still getting no where
@@satishm5260 There is no where to get to . this is the dilemma ,some people are looking to get something that they already have, and they want to be "something" they already are .
Lol. Right.
It's the "anti-entertainer" providing entertainment to the I know people 😂👌🏼
I keep coming back to UG as a reset to the bullshit that is peddled everywhere. Thanks for having these available to us. Life gets clear when you understand.
Check out Kapil Gupta , he has a similar way of presentation
@@runtownfitness sounds like you didn't listen to what UG was saying here :)
When you understand, there is no life at all
@@runtownfitness He’s great too (I say this without prescription)
"You will be peaceful when all your ideas about awareness are dropped and you begin to function like a computer. You must be a machine, function automatically in this world, never questioning your actions before, during, or after they occur." - U. G. Krishnamurti (Mind is a Myth)
This guy is so authentic, so pure and so fearless it’s crazy, just very very serious and unexploited human being
"You're not listening to me, Bob! You're not listening to me Bob!" 😂😂😂
"Nothing happened! Nothing happened, Bob!" 😂😂😂
Thank you UG.
Love his interactions with Bob. 😄
@JazzLoverKhurram Are you for real?
Sometimes I wonder if Bob was only guy UG truly loved 😂
Always loved honesty of UG, never sugar coated to please anyone!! He expressed in a different way.
just appreciate the magic of this dimension and stop trying to figure it out
Thats how the banksters like their debt slaves
The mind seeks permanence. We hv in us a mechanism that is always seeking its never still he acknowledges this n the existance of little else.
You can do both. Ug is educated
@@kdcruz75 ”Water is fluid, soft, and yielding. But water will wear away rock, which is rigid and cannot yield. As a rule, whatever is fluid, soft, and yielding will overcome whatever is rigid and hard. This is another paradox: what is soft is strong.”
Lao Tzu
@@kdcruz75 between your answer and his statement i exist
My respects to UG but he says nothing happened to him in this video and then in others he mentions he stumbled into something extraordinary. Of course something happened. There was a certain perception of the world at one point in his life and a complete change of perception afterwards. He is correct in saying elsewhere that listening to him can be the very thing that will block you from falling into this yourself. Discovering him 15 years ago suddenly stopped my curiosity for seeking due to his strong statements of every teacher being a con man. Then slowly I came back to zen principles and the UG voice was trying to come back and stop me but I continued to let go. I read Zen mind, Beginner mind. I started reading very slowly, practicing a little at a time. Never forcing. Eventually, this place of nothing suddenly appears one day and it does not go away. You remain there. And then later you watch some UG videos and you are no longer separated by them in any way as you were once before. Now only appreciating his personal way of expression. UG was one of the biggest seekers of them all. He wanted nothing in life more than to experience Moksha and spent all of his time looking for it. When it happened to him he was surprised that it was not what he had expected. But no one can, that is the thing. He tried too hard to find the nothingness that we are and that is where his bitterness seems to resides sometimes. And if the calamity stories are as he says, they may have came about by resisting the changes of the body resorting back to its natural operating system after the intellectual shield had fallen. No one will go through this the same way. And no one can say you can`t find this abiding emptiness in yourself by moving in directions that resonate with you which only you can decide. Others have and will continue to discover this like they always have. That is where I went wrong by taking some of the things UG said to heart and believing them by making them permanent. Holding onto them. Regardless, UG is one of my greatest teachers.
Why would one lie about the respect for anyone, if he doesn't respect him at all?:( Why would one blame the other to speak of nonsense, if he only interprets what the other might be saying, therefore reacts only to his own nonsense? Why would one write about the place of nothing WHICH IS DEATH, in this world of life, when he didn't experience it for he is writing so he is alive? Why would one present his own brainwashing which took a certain amount of time as "I found despite UG's words? For if there truly was nothing for you, sir, you would find no place, you would need no zen, no practice. You are just one of the liars, that's all.
No one can say that ones frustration will not eventually bring you peace.
No one's frustration will bring you peace. When there's peace, it exists independently of everything, as it is everything
Peace is already there there is no when.
Sir it was your statement, which supposes there is no peace- the thread exists there for anyone who cares to check. I didn't write if, I wrote when as a reaction to your construct, it exists only as such.
After careful listening I rejected him and went on with this mystery called life
such a intelligent person he is. I think no one ever talked so straight forwardly on the truth. what he is saying should be bible for all generation from now. what he said is utterly amazing.
Is that supposed to be a joke?:/ If so, its a bad one.
Slavomira Krasna no its not a joke . I was telling whatever he is telling is ultimate truth.
What UG is saying, Simha, are just words. They do describe the existence itself, yet they are not the existence itself. That's why it is simply misleading to shut his words into any kind of a bible, for the existence is living, breathing, ever changing. Your comment wants to entrap the fact, which is UG talking about, into something limited, so it can be preserved for the generations to come. What for, sir? For those generations won't be your generation, life doesn't exist only now, it will exist even then, the truth doesn't exist only now, it will exist even then, its form will be different from the one you know now. The bible, any holly book is entrapped status quo, entrapped life, which is left to rot. And when you open it after some time, it poisons you with its lethal breath. You are welcome.
Completely Agree with you. my intention was to emphasis that nothing can make us realize the reality except his words.
Hm, you know that Catholics say something very similar? They talk about the salvation through Jesus. What about time before UG's words? Jiddu was able to realise the true reality without UG's words. People had different theories about salvation before Jesus's death. In time to come, there will be different people worshiping different words, different people- for example Mooji is on his way to his hall of fame:). Putting all of this aside, do you really need anyone to perceive reality? To live your life? To be you?
Be careful, If you really listen, that is the end of you.
If it was the end for you commonsense then how did YOU type this. lol
what other guy haha. the other you?
@snd dont worry about it . no free will, remember :)
That's awesome.
Not at all. He tells half the story.
"I use the thoughts, if there are any, to function in this world, sanely and intelligently. That is all. Otherwise I would be in the mental hospital."
That's why I keep coming back. His words are like a reset button when my thoughts start driving me crazy.
"Nothing Happened Bob!"
This is one of my most favorite talks
Gracias ♡♡♡♡
*" I admit that everything is copied by me - so finish !"* 🏁 . . . *"pick up somewhere ."* (5.06 min - 5.13 min ) turns away his head and scratches his nose ! .•°
Thanks so much
I especially enjoyed what happens around 08:17
Good luck to you guys 🌺
Those laughters.. and silence 🙏
As the Man says, there is NO magic bullet, not profound Guru to lead you to Nirvana, believe me when you get this : you fucking GET IT!
we do not let the thought touch the building; only use them to live simply. "WHAT?"
Is it ever possible for any concept about something to be that thing? And that question, of course, is the result of the answer that begs it. Even a thought about thought is not the thought that the thought refers to. However, it is possible to perform fantasy gymnastics with concepts by way of imagining that is possible and then to create a synthetic fusion after the fact.
Now, how much of the above, when read, is experienced as merely the result of interpretations that evoke spontaneous associations as an overlay and how much of it has any actuality at all? That is, especially now that you are considering what I am relating after the fact of the direct perception of those verbal symbols which, at this point are conceptualized as "in the past" and, right now, this is the present moment of awareness until you continue to read each new word and notice that happening.
In that case, the experience, the media of perception and the subjective idea of that which experiences are, in the moment, a unitary motion, so to speak. And so, in that sense, you actually get nothing from these statements other than what you already have and that is permutations of insubstantial thoughts that are always the "past" along with the resulting projections of that as the non-existent future.
The concept can never be the thing because the very “thingness” is part of the thought process. Living his happening now, frame by frame so to speak and it cannot be captured.
We only use our 5 senses as an instrument each moment and during these moments we can focus upon thought or as UG describes, let thought be necessary for solving problems but not to actively remain in the neurotic space (thinking) of behaving as if thought images are the reality itself.
Idk about anything else but one thing I'm absofuckinglutely true.
This group knows "Social Distancing"
When the something happened it was a teaching from an almighty consciousness to say STOP seeking there is nothing any mind can do to understand, change or know What Truly Is. It takes years to lift one self from this human dissolving voice, which for years after is teasing with bliss to try again. So what lies beyond is of no use to any human mind so forget any thing that appears to be happening because, nothing really Is.
How do you know it was from an almighty consciousness? What even is such a thing? Can you define it? You will try but all I will get is your blabbering opinions and hopes and delusions.
Brilliantly spoken. By who? All “I” will get is blabbering opinions Hopes and deluded comments! Are you “I” ? Thank you for for re-m”I”nd-ing 👍
What do you by nothing Really is
yes!! fantasy!! it is fun to play with the illusions :)
I think he wanted just to remind everybody that they create their own perception of everything.
UG can not control anger n frustration.. his face tells all
It's way of expressing... You see anger is full of abundant energy... UG was always emphasizing that there is no way out.. people always wanted to further to know.. and that too how.. this was not logical premise which he was trying to point out... There was no self to realise and hence nothing there to change.. so it ends all the believes, teachings, experience and doesn't want to hold on to that...
I always experience when I had strangle hold on my thoughts.. I experience no time and no space.. I agree with UG.. when I experienced I shared this experience with my close ones but nobody was able to co- relate and accidentally I watched it's videos... It strengthen and fortified my experience.. thanks whoever has uploaded UG's videos
Why should those things be controlled? Where did you get that idea? If you can find out - that exactly is the source of your misery.
That's one reason I love him. No pretension to be some holy man.
Something is transcended in music. We do share same feelings while listening to mozart. Maybe not everyone but many people do.
NOBODY hears it the same way.
Everytime you THINK you resonate or hear things like another you are creating this thought which separates you from everything in an attempt to relate to another because you want something from them.
Not nice but Fantastic ;)
This easily could of been a speech of Sailor Bob's in Melbourne. He speaks with exactly the same directness and clarity with no attached bullshit. The mind constantly wants to prop itself up or defend itself rather than here what is actually being said as to do that is the end of its memory bound existence. No longer an subject/object relation (fantasy) there is only the actual reality in which all appears as itself (cognising emptiness).
You do realise that you said nothing, right? There's no information in your own theory, except for Mr Bob:/
Is the girl in the video Parveen Babi? Who is she?
For more destruction and frustration, listen to Jim Newman 😁🙏🏾
7.58 to 8.10 most hilarious hahaha
Vitality of LIFE and that's all !!!!! ;/
He is a parody of spirituality. Good.
He came out of the Matrix :)
No he didn't. He says this over and over. No way out. Reality is the matrix. You are not separate from it. When "you" cease the body will take on new forms within it.
Bob ain't listening! lol
Finishhhh
the calamity burnt his endocrine system considerably,as well as his hypothalamus,amygdala,therefore he is speaking like this.You need to have a very good nervous system,endocrine and brain to withstand this calamity,which is grace for others.So dont absorb everything he says,use your head.Its too personal at the end of the day.
There is no possible way for you to be sure of that. I agree about not taking him too seriously, but what you said about whatever the "calamity" did to his system is pure speculation.
@@willissudweeks1050 There is speculation in experience.
What science can you provide to show this is what happened to him? I already know it is zero. This calamity may have been nothing more than a severe mental breakdown or shock over certain insights he gained at once. The shock of the realization that he had truly wasted his time searching for something that doesn't exist. It happens to people from all faiths. Happened to me as a Christian. Mental breakdown. Anger, disillusionment, sense of meaninglessness. To see through the veil is not an experience you should try to gain. It will give you nothing and take everything. Go and marry a girl, make a family, make money, practice the traditions of your culture and die in that ignorance. You will be much happier like that.
@@daithiocinnsealach1982 ditto my friend. I 100% echo what you say. That's what happened to him at 49 and this kind of break down happens when a moment suddenly comes when you realize all you have been persuin/thought to be possibly true never existed. Happened with me too.
5:06
People keep thinking that he says they wouldnt visit him because they have somehow attained something.
But I believe he is simply saying that there is no reason to visit some random old man you dont know. 😂
UG whas the only men who whas honest enough to say that there's no such thing as enlightenment,and that people realy have nothing to talk about.
If ou listen to more interviews, it will become clearer why he does that...
The freed and natural functioning body does not let thought interfere, control, nor shape anything.
The word for communication, the thought for functioning sanely and intelligently in this world; (otherwise insanity and ignorance would signify the need to be placed into a mental hospital.)
Ug was straight but how about this man who said it so simple but was profound,i am the way, i am the truth, I am the way. Notice'The' means all other way fails before this way.
His way failed too. Nobody has ever found freedom by his way.
@@inayatkhan2061 living in fools paradise, please watch Christian Prince debate to know what is Koran?
@@srinivaspillai4622 I don't get your question
Live on crutches forever and be happy with that.
Died in 2007 at 88. May he be reborn with more compassion.....
I hope he isn't reborn, one UG is more than enough
The game of the compassionate man creates the impassioned ones .••
There is no UG anymore. You can only be reborn if you have a soul. All there is is matter acting in mind boggingly complicated ways. When the experiencing structure known as UG ceases then what is left is dissolved into the ground to be used by other life forms. Or to remain merely as non-living chemical elements. And this activity is pointless.
@@daithiocinnsealach1982 I don't think there's only a mother-matter, there's also a father-spirit. You don't have a soul, but you are a soul that sticks to matter and thinks it is only a body. Soul is consubstantiality between matter and the spirit. Just as light and a red glass together give a red light. In this case the red light only exists as long as red glass. Consubstantiality. I could say other way, We are radios who, because of our different shapes and bodies(memory), demodulate the same signal in different ways, so a different broadcast comes out. The point is that a broadcast is coming from the radio, but the signal is not actually on the radio. Signal was before the radio, and after the radio. We are living like the broadcast, but our essence is the signal which animates the radio.. Consciousness is an infinite field, the universe has only one mind, but it is non-material. Like light, it cannot be seen or felt, but its effect on the material, the illumination, is there. Light is a wave, but a wave of what? There is no empty space, nowhere... We are "alive soil - animated soil" but what makes and hold this dead matter alive?
Ug is not comforter! If ug becomes comforter to you .his living thing doesn't touch you.
would u call ug a solipsist?
call solipsism ug
@@lecturesbeyondbeyond well,church of satan and theistic satanists push solipsism big time,but thats neither here or there
@@raghavsayal more shoddy goods
The people around UG just don't get it..... God help them 😂
:) when you become a teacher, you attract the most sexiest opposite sex.
why?
5:45 Hmm no homo>?
And if U. G. had been finished with it he wouldn't take visitors and be on camera. He was still playing the game until he died. Cynical old man. Couldn't sort his life out and was bitter and twisted about it. Left his wife and kids. That will harden a man's hard and give him a soured view of life for sure. Hard to speak about life when you abandon those who love you the most. So much easier to talk about how everything is meaningless and pointless.
He claimed to have no illusions. He himself is trapped in the same persistent illusion we're all trapped in, and it's up to us to decide how we will live this illusion out. How we will exist inside the matrix. The cage. If he wants to live and die bitter that's his business, but to claim he has no illusions is delusional.
Oh shut the fuck up with the pretension and armchair psychologisms white dude on the internet.
UG was remarkably honest about his motivation to take visitors and be on camera, he wanted to use them to express himself through them, and that he didn't know why he wanted to do that. That's as honest as he could've been, there is no game to play. He wouldn't have sought anyone out if they weren't already on his doorstep, or on his video like you are.
I know I want to punch needlessly pretentious people, and I don't know why I want to do that so passionately.
You speak for yourself,how can you speak about the other when it's perfectly clear that there are no others.All the words you use are full of values and moral,so that means that your'e a coward.It means that you're repeating words of someone else.Why would you not leave the ones that love you the most?It takes real courage to do that,it's the way of the real warrior.
@@TheImperialOva we are all playing the game my friend. There is no excape from the matrix. I've been listening to UG almost every day since and I probably would not be as harsh now as I was when I wrote this, but I still pretty much stand by what I said. He was extremely critical of others and you love it, but when someone is critical of your guru you get enraged and call them pretentious. Do you see you are just acting like all the others? We're all trapped in this web.
And you call me "white guy" and I'm the pretentious one? What does my skin colour have to do with any of this?
@@hermansohier7643 Idiotic words. I'm sorry. It is the way of the coward. Alan Watts did the same. I did too. There you go. So I know what I'm talking about. He calls his wife ugly. He says to throw the body of his child in the garbage basically. I love UG, but he was a broken human being who had some amazing insights. You cannot see the duality of each human being seemingly. The greatness and pettiness. The beauty and the ugliness.
@@daithiocinnsealach1982 amazing. I have replied you elsewhere on this thread (4 day old) . I was wondering seeing your first reponse here (1 year back) why so much of variance in your opinion (sort of) and then this above comment explained it where you yourself have mentioned you have toned down from year back. Anyway, all in all I agree. Also,it's interesting you have come back after a years to reply back on above comments. I guess just like UG, even if people like you and me are finish totally, where else to go until this body is alive....
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So we are just here to talk rubbish in planet earth because there's nothing else to do.
Yup and all the while feeding the moon.....😁
@@calm_compost I ain't chasing ya 🙊
@@almanashshi Oh..no !!! My dreams, my hopes. All shattered.Why woman why...😁😁😁😁
We evolved to the point where we are so dominant we can't even imagine that all this brain power we have was merely to help us survive. We've solved all our real problems now we make imaginary ones. Est, work, play, sleep, repeat, die. That's it. Accept it and get on with it.
@@daithiocinnsealach1982 I accepted that.
Pretty sure he’s just spouting post modernism
I used to not like him, because I loved krishnamurti now I dont love krishnamurti and I dont love him :)) all that comes out of me is the data fed to me by idiots.
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UG was the perfect fake fantasy
A guru who constantly interrupts his interlocutor loses credibility for me. Obnoxious personality.
+James Caputo its hard hearing the same bullshit cycled over and over again sometimes
+James Caputo The brand of etiquette that asks people to take their turn is not universal.
+James L Italians do this too. But it makes for an obnoxious, disputatious culture from the standout of communication.
Is this not part of their culture? If so, that would make sense of it for me.
+James Caputo
He always remind to people like you - "I am not any guru! you don't have to listen to me, you don't have to sit here, I don't care"
So - you can leave, nobody holds you.
+Michal T. I'm not familiar with his philosophy. What was his particular genius?
UG is clueless. Clueless of life, God and Spirituality.
No, UG "achieved" complete liberation in his pursuits. It took him a yearish to relearn how to eat, talk, walk. Yeah, complete liberation from everything is a BULLSHIT pursuit. Thats why he's so pissed off all the time, because its a FRUITLESS pursuit and holy hookers push it like candy!
Exactly, except he says that there is nothing to know so cluelessness is what is