Modular MPE MIDI Controller // Joué PRO Review
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 7. 04. 2023
- A MIDI controller that stands out from the crowd! This is my review of the Joue Play Pro.
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I have a Linnstrument 128 that covers similar ground in a larger package, and is completely configurable right on the device. And getting direct support from Roger Linn himself is a pretty special experience.
That thing looks so awesome!
i love my linnstrument!
yeah but that comes with a hefty price. so itâs nice to have both devices availableđ€
Thatâs why I visited. Thanks, Linnstrument when I get the budget!đ
I was very much interested in the Joule from the symth video. Ty for making this!
Yesssss, this is what I was looking for, on another one of your videos, I saw you using this, and I wanted it right away.
JOUE, it is maddening that we cannot find the connect cable anywhere :( I even have issues with my existing usb-c to lightning cables trying to connect the play to my iPad mini 5th gen. None of my standard cords work. I couldn't even get a generic usb-c converter to lightning to work.
The connect cable you show off here looks so much like a necessity. I need to get another midi to handle certain things to work around this when I want to use the Joue. Oh well.
Canât wait for this, was highly disappointed by my Roli Seaboards Block build quality, been wanting a realistic MPE replacement.
Great review!
Regarding how the device recognises the overlay: my guess is that the capacitance of the silicone is different for each layout. I'm imagining that this is also why the board is split into three sections: the layouts provide a different capacitance over each section and the device takes those values and references a lookup table to decide which preset you need.
If that's the case then I would imagine that an enterprising person could hack the device to make a custom layout of their own, or manufacture replacement pads if they are no longer available in the future.
That being said I think that the biggest issue with it is the need to access the configuration through an app, as that will eventually stop being supported and new operating systems will potentially lead to the device no longer being customisable unless there's an open source alternative.
I'm always a bit concerned about hardware that requires an app to make use of all its features for this reason. You're always going to be at risk of the manufacturer deciding that investing in keeping the firmware up to date for old products isn't worth it from a business standpoint. After that you need to hope that someone is enthusiastic enough about it to reverse engineer it and keep it working.
In 10 years I worry that a lot of these devices won't be fully featured, which is not something that used to apply to music production equipment and it's potentially going to sting people who make these devices central to their workflow or have created custom presets that don't have a convenient method for backing them up or recreating them from scratch due to using functions that require external software to access.
@casanovafunkenstein5090 It's just an RFID tag, ntag213 to be exact. The actual physical map is stored on the device, but the various parameters to determine the response is stored in a JSON-type structure. It's pretty easy to reverse engineer if you have the time.
Ok I was wondering whether we could create our own custom pads, but I guess not. RFID recognition makes sense.
Then I checked the price for the whole collection of pads & realized, I could buy a nice used ipad for that price & it would almost be infinitely versatile + useful for other needs..
Sweet lil device! Too sweet with all variety of French candy/pastry looking pads. Check with doctor if it impact sugar level :)
Together with vector synth it looks like Animoog, prolly same in price :) I did not play my iPad maybe for a year (while it was my main instrument for a long time). I was always looking for some more tangible controller to pair. Always coming back to the point you donât need much except touch and screen. I came across Joue when explored touch lem/thunder alternative for Buchla 208c.
But indeed sweet spot is portability and expressiveness. Nice to see they are all working on new areas. This is one cheeky device! Enjoyed your review!
Hey brother! Always a treat to see you heređ„
Fretboard lay out is pretty cool.
They should have one that's similar to the push or exquis layout. That would be interesting.
Appreciate the review. Nice option that doesn't break the bank. Perfect to noodle with the iPad. Sensel's are harder to find that a good.... PG show, never mind.
Get some sleep now! Stay safe brother.
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This looks sick! Do you ever use it with your Deluge?
so glad u made this video i was wondering about your pads in the last one for sure......is keystep 37 for the price pretty much still the best for a starter .....?
Yeah I think itâs an amazing deal bang for buck wise, and great if youâre starting outđđŒ
What a fascinating little controller! Does the guitar pad allow you to change the string tuning in the Joué app? Can you tune the individual strings to another instrument, say the cello-violin range? Thanks for the great review!
Similar to sensel morph which has been discounted This looks a great option
How would you compare the Joué Play and Erae Touch for the main use as an MPE controller?
where to buy this adapter cable?
Any idea why the smaller 1/3 pads aren't available any longer? They seem to show up in the app. Also, not sure what the "Companion App" is - it appear to be maybe what makes it "Pro", but "Pro" is an extra $50 on their website.
Unfortunately, the website doesn't really make this clear, plus, it still shows some smaller pads that also don't appear to be available.
I had one, sold it. I was a kickstarter. Overpaid and didnât like it at all. Wasnât hip on MPE but still donât regret getting rid of it. Didnât fit my workflow.
Anyone know if the app is available for iOS?
I bought it after watching your last video. I purchased the "PLAY" version, which is the only option available on their store. I can't customize it, unless I download a firmware for 50 dollars extra to go PRO. I really have the same impression as the Michael. Key are very unresponsive on the play version and customize a modular midi for extra 20% of its value, better go with something simpler. I did loved the play KEYS, but why do one has to pay more to use with daws?
Hi! Thanks for letting me know about this issue, Iâll be sure to comment this to the people at JouĂ©. That unresponsiveness, is that with software or hardware instruments? I ask because I used it mainly with hardware and maybe thatâs why I missed the problem. If that is the case (lag with software synths) please let me know and I might have to edit and reupload this video, as I donât want to give out incomplete information, thanks!
@@MidlifeSynthesist, I am your fan! Yes, software instruments. Using Logic Pro and GarageBand over here. I feel that when I use Joué's DAW (Joue Play App) this unresponsiveness dims a little, but it's still there. But how annoying it is that you have to pay-to-make-it-work?
@@matguzzothanks so much for your kind words mate! And I agree that it should function normally in the basic version as well! So in the non-pro you canât adjust velocity/sensitivity/note scale? I only have the Pro version so I donât know what the limits are. Thanks in advance for all this feedback btw, truly appreciste itđđŒ
@@matguzzo The unresponsiveness is due to velocity/pressure collision along the horizontal plane. You can avoid it a bit by spreading your fingers vertically but it's an inherent flaw with the device.
I was about to buy the Joue but read somewhere that the MPC (standalone) doesnât support MPE, is that true? I really donât care about the other limitationsâŠ
Hi! Canât confirm since my MPC was stolen, maybe someone else can help here in the commentsđ
Devices that are multitimbral, like the MPC, make GREAT MPE sound sources if the MPE controller can be configured to send standard MIDI in 1 note-per-channel mode. You just set every channel of your multitimbral synth to the same instrument. It functions identically to native MPE.
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