TP-Link AV2000 Powerline Starter Kit - Up to 2000 Mbps
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- čas přidán 27. 11. 2017
- Want faster internet? Then you may want to consider the TP Link AV2000 Powerline Starter Kit.
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TP-Link AV2000 Powerline Adapter Kit, 2-Port, up to 2000Mbps (TL-PA9020 KIT)
Home Plug AV2 standard compliant, high-speed data transfer rates of up to 2000Mbps, supports all your online needs
2x2 MIMO with Beam forming establishes multiple simultaneous connections for you to enjoy higher power line speeds and greater stability
2 Gigabit ports create secure wired networks for desktops, smart TVs or games consoles
Plug and play, no configuration required
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These have to be plugged straight into the wall outlet. Surge-protectors filter noise...which is why it most likely would filter out the signal between the powerline adapters.
I had doubts at first about upgrading to this "TP-LINK AV2000" from my ancient generation powerline. However i am so glad i did! It Lowered my ping from 10ms to 4ms and is 100% maxing my internet package of 300mbps down and 16mbps up. I would argue that this is as close to a straight ethernet wire you could get; in fact i doubt many could tell the difference. This really is the best powerline product on the market available today. If your hesitating all i can do is encourage you to just go try it for yourself. I am very happy with the result. Thanks to Kevin who inspired me to go try this product. The powerline from my measurements (at least in my setup) only adds 1ms ping. the additional 3 ms i am currently experiencing on my cable from my internet service provider. I have these setup main router in the living room; powerline to a bedroom basically on the other side of the wall in an appartment. My prior generation would cap out at 35mbps so this is quite the improvement. Id love to drill a whole in the wall and drop a cat 6/7 cable but they do not allow that here as it might compromise the structure of the building.
Thanks for the kind words. Glad you found it useful. I bought another two of these a few months ago. One for my living room TV and another for my kitchen.
Thanks for the review! I'm sold. Just bought it.
Great you discovered you plug the adapters directly into the wall. You got great results!
If it helps anyone, the ports are gigabit meaning that the max transfer rate is 1000Mbps on each single port. The 2000Mbps number they give is the bandwidth between the powerline devices themselves. So, if you had multiple powerline devices across your home the 2000Mbps bandwidth is shared between them.
solid. I got from another manufacturer... but what you have to do - you need 2 PCs on LAN and use iperf3 to check the LAN speed via powerline vs via directly router.
Saw your video in the amazon app and bought them thanks to this recommendation. Fingers crossed they do the job!
You're welcome. Glad you found it useful.
Don't normally leave comments, but I am very impressed with the thoroughness of your review and speed tests of all the configurations. Well thought out and troubleshooted too (powerboard vs direct to wall an added bonus). Good job mate, keep up the awesome content. Subbed.
Thanks for the kind words Mark.
great in depth video.
Great video, thanks for taking the time to make it.
You're welcome Been. Glad you like it.
Great video mate 👍🏻
Thanks 😎
The 2000Mbps transfer rate is referring to the maximum rate across the Powerline element of the connection.
The Ethernet side is based on 10/100/1000Mbps rates hence why they only supply a Cat5e network cable
And why there are two ports on each box. I get 150 Mpbs out of mine between the main house and the outhouse. Mind you the outhouse has its own breaker box which probably impairs the connection.
Still tho cat 8 cable find some shielded cable works better I have cat 8 I notice how much thicker and stronger and probably won't have a problem with it and gold contact point
Hang on, you re Derran Browns twin :) good vid.
Many thanks for the review Kevin. Do you know how they work if they are on different electrical circuits in the same house, such as up and down sockets.
I assume they're on the same circuit.
Great review and proper testing, nice one pal
Thanks mate.
Great video, mate.
Very good thanks for this. Couple of questions... to connect 2 devices - tv and console - do i use 2 connections from the router (the one that plugs into the router )
Also do you recommend cat 7 or cat 5e cables?
+Paul Sammut The adapters can do up to 2GB/s. If you're transferring files within your network and think you need faster transfer rates, get Cat 7. They're cheap to buy.
If you are only using them for internet connections, just use the included cables.
For your setup, plug one into the router. The other adapter will be close to your TV and console and you can run a separate ethernet cable to your TV and console.
Cat5e can handle gigabit, Cat6/6a/7 are for 10gig, which is more expensive. shielded Cat53/6/6a/7 is for in-wall and long distance cabling.
As the rating goes higher, the cables get thicker and harder to bend, as there's more shielding and braiding/MFG differences to achieve higher speeds over longer distances. At distances lower than 10m/50ft, choose what you like or is cheaper.
As for AV2000, think of it like WiFi over wires. The 2gbit is shared between AV plugs, so the realistic max speeds are more like 200-1100mbps each. But, with MIMO which comes with the AV1200 and AV2000 , you can use extra plugs to boost range and speed, as they will relay and boost the signal between each plug in the house. If you have a few AV2000's in the house, they can use each other to repeat the signal or boost speed between subcircuits.
i.e. if the AV2000 pairing is on different sub-circuits, i.e. Garage to Kitchen, sic. it's going to have a lot more electrical noise and distortion as those sub-circuits are isolated from each other. But, with MIMO, If you add another, or move one of the plugs closer to the electrical panel, it will act as a relay between points on the same sub-circuit, or boost the signal between sub-circuits. hopefully.
I have different switches downstairs to upstairs like on the board I can turn of my upstairs switches and still use downstairs does that mean mine won’t work upstairs because I have tried and the one upstairs still blinks slowly on the power bit
Great Review!
Thanks.
Been testing closed beta Stadia at my home and the quality was awful (it was like 480p), then I removed my powerline adapter and connected directly to my router and was getting amazing quality (close to 4k).
My powerline I have is quite old (200mbs), so I really hope this AV2000 will do the job!
Best of luck with it. Let me know how stadia is.
Just came to this video and what a great review! Just wondering if upto 2000mbs is there a different in 1300 version as internet isn't really above 350mb ?
I'm not sure about every difference, but there other models will probably be sufficient for you.
Really nice review! I hope that I will get full my internet speed (300Mbps) from these devices, especially that my house is only 8 years old. Regards :)
Glad you found it useful :)
The power rings for the different floors still an issue I believe.
...and just like that, I'm sold. Solid review! 👍
Thanks Kerrod 👍
Can I connect a router to the 2rd to link
This video is great! I've got a pair of 1200Mbps ones and I'm getting around 300Mbps on my 385Mbps connection - that's a loss of a good 10MB/s during downloads, so I really need something better. I'll give these 2000's a try, see if the increased frequency they operate at (86MHz vs 67MHz) can push that throughput closer to my full broadband speed. The reason why I need these is to get rid of some ugly cables in the living room. It does the job well even at 300 megabit, but the speed loss still nags at me...
So you're getting 385 directly from the router? If so, I think you should be getting more from your power line adapters.
What kind of keyboard do you have? Looks really cool. BTW, I really liked your review.
Thanks Jody. I'm out just now, but there is a review of the Motospeed keyboard I'm using on my channel 👍
Have you tried to connect three or more of them? I’m having issues getting them ALL to connect/sync at once.
I used to have one at my router and three other ones connected at the house. They all connected, but it's a pain as every few weeks, the connection would be lost and I'd have to connect them all again.
Quick question, is there any point getting the 2000mbps version if my max speeds aren’t anywhere near that? Should I just go for the lower 1000 or 600 version? Thanks, great video btw helped a lot
If you are transferring files within your network, it could be useful, bit for most people I don't think it would matter.
Yes because that's theoretical
What throughput if you plug the PLs on power sockets that are on different rings?
It shouldn't work if they're on different rings.
I get speeds on average of 40mbps and my advertised is 58mbps, would it be worth getting this top of the range model? I’ve seen a few people say if you don’t have super fast internet then you won’t need this model
Most ISPs don't match what they advertise.
But yeah, you could save some money going for a cheaper model if you don't need the higher speeds.
I have very similar speeds as you have in this video and have a 200mbps powerline adapter, but only get around 50mbps from it. The powerline adapter is quite old and my house was built in the 70s/80s. So do you think the powerline adapter just needs updating, or would it just be the wiring in my house that's the problem?
It could be. I saw a lot of people say that the power lines in your house can be a big factor. Perhaps a WiFi extender would be better for you, or just running ethernet cables outside and then back upstairs.
@@KevinMuldoon ah ok thanks
What software are you using for testing the speed Very good review.
There are apps that you can download, but I normally just use Speedtest.net.
Hi Kevin. There are a lot of Amazon reviews that state that the AV2000 adapters drop their connections with each other every 2-3 weeks and then need to be unplugged/plugged back in again to pair up. Have you found this to be a problem? I would need to have 4 non pass through adapters if I were to buy these.
I haven't found that myself. If there's a power cut or if I manually turn them off, they always sync back up automatically.
I've only had to reset them manually twice outwith that.
@@KevinMuldoon Thanks for the response Kevin. I've already got 4 AV1000s and they work great. No issues with power save mode etc. I too have the VM Vivid350 and am getting super speeds directly connected to router (orbi RBR50) or via WiFi. Main reason for the upgrade is to provide my son with better speed for gaming without having to hard wire ethernet cable to his room or pay for expensive orbi RBS50 satellite.
Hiya, did you do any file/data transfer speed tests? I’ve got Virgin BB too, and don’t know whether to get an additional mesh node for the 2 I have (each with 2 Ethernet ports) - or one of these kits. It will be to connect via Ethernet to a Raspberry Pi NAS that will be in the spare room upstairs. Thanks :)
I found these to have better speeds that WiFi, though there's a lot of factors to consider. A good tri band WiFi network could be a good alternative.
Kevin Muldoon many thanks :)
Nice Video - Can this be used to extend wireless. For example run one into the router and plug into the wall. the next one plug into the wall in a shed and have a cable from that one into another router to provide wifi in the shed?
Yes you could attach a router at the other end. WiFi boosters are neither option, but this should provide a better signal.
Are you able to buy another Ethernet cable that’s exactly the same as the one provided and where could I find it?
I think it's a cat 5e cable that's it's provided. You could easily replace it with a cat 5e or cat 6a cheaply from Amazon etc.
Good review
Im considering getting these
I live in a 1930s semi but with modern wiring
Do you think the signal strength would be ok with the 2nd adapter up in my loft where my office is, all on the same ring main
Mmm it could be risky due to the old wiring, but the only way to verify would be to buy one.
@@KevinMuldoon I've got the starter kit on order 👌
@@KevinMuldoon Just tried pout the exact powerline adapters, the two adapters connected to each other however the data speeds are half that to the wifi speed. units plugged directly into the wall outlet using the provided ethernet cables. tried both upstairs and downstairs sockets with the same slow speeds. i suspect its just my wiring. Ill be returning the adapters now and will have to just rout some ethernet cable instead.
Nice. Best of luck with it.
Yeah it could be. It's either the wiring. There's a small chance it's your ethernet cables...but that's very small as you're not hitting their limits.
Hi, thanks for your review. What I didn't catch, is; are these wireless as well? We have had a cabin built at the bottom of the orchard. We have EE 4G which we use with extenders around the house. They are adequate, not brilliant, just adequate. Its an old single story cottage built back in the mid 1800's, with addons over the years. And more going on now. The wiring is fine by the way. We have armoured cable going down to the cabin, and we want obviously to extend the present 4G to the cabin from the house. It could be simple just to pick up the EE router and carry it down there, but that isn't what we want to do, too much hassle. We want to use the TV recorder which works on WIFI, and all the tablets and other wireless devices to work down there. Do you think this capable? Or would you advice another method. And, to add to this I want to have the ability to use wifi in my workshop at the other end of the property. The cabin is about 67m from the router and the workshop (armoured cable again isn't that far. I listen to my tablet through my ear plugs whilst doing my DIY, working on my bike.
Some powerline adapters do offer a wireless connection too, but I'd usually opt for a dedicated hotspot myself.
For an older house, I'd probably opt for a good tri band router which supports a mesh network. This allows you to walk around the whole network and automatically use the strongest/nearest signal.
Just a quick nudge. Speed is usually measured in megabits a second Mb/s. Megabytes is the size of a file MB :)
Yes I know. I must have misspoke if I said otherwise 👍😃
hi there, great video. May i ask if u can share how to connect additional remote units pls? Tks
I don't own them anymore, so I recommend checking the manual for the necessary steps. 👍
With the two Ethernet ports that’s on the device, can I add another device to the port? So 1 in modem then another in modem, then the adaptor in my room to my console and then my console next to it both connected by Ethernet on the one adaptor?
Yes, the second ethernet port can be used to connect to your network.
@@KevinMuldoon so 1 extender both ports connected to modem, then extdndr in room connected to both devices
2 or 3 years on, do you still recommend this as being the best for faster internet? I live in a 7 bedroom house so I'm a little apprehensive whether it will be good enough or not...?
I still use them throughout my house. I have four now.
From what I've read, their effectiveness can depend on your electrical ring. The shape of your house and number of floors could be a factor too (again, this relates to the electrical ring).
@@KevinMuldoon thank you :)
I'm looking for something to hard wire my consoles to since my modem is in the family room and my consoles are upstairs. Will this be a good choice.? I do get good WiFi up here but you know how online gaming can be using only WiFi.
That's what I use upstairs for gaming and streaming. I run my powerline adapter upstairs into a network switch.
@@KevinMuldoon thank you sir!
Do these give off a wifi signal as well or is it all for hard wiring?
Only a wired connection. They don't give a WiFi signal.
You can however buy power line adapters that do extend the WiFi signal from your router.
They say not to plug into strips or surge protectors. They recommend straight into the wall at each location
I note this later in the video 👍
Thanks man you just sold a set to me
You're welcome.
Why everyone test this powerline and wifi adatper and accesspoint only with speedtest.... use IPERF... and see the real speed that you get, one pc for testing like your lapton and one pc connected at the maximum speed with ethernet with IPERF server...
yes i use local transfer and need to see the speeds so i just bought myself a tp link av1200
yes that was a VERY disappointing test method worthless really
It wasn't something I had to test as I copy files via solid state drives and just upload smaller files to the cloud.
If power goes out you have to resync it ?
Since owning it the last few years, I've only had to resync twice manually. It normally does it automatically.
Good review. Plug into the wall directly, as you mentioned.
I've purchased the 1Gb kit and only then noticed it was a waste of money as the TV port is a 100Mbps cap and the XBOX is restricted by Microsoft to around 150Mbps 🙄
Thanks Ronnie. I've since moved house and it had ethernet connections at the walls, so I ended selling them. They always worked well for me. I did have to reset them once a month as the connection got lost.
@@KevinMuldoon hey how come mine doesn't have all 3 lights on???
I have no idea. The manual highlights what can cause the connection to drop.
good man
how about separate breaker this is applicable?
I don't believe so.
Can you be used with a wifi extender?
Yes it should be ok, but I'd buy a powerline adapter that has that built-in.
Can I buy this plus one extra, I have 3 rooms that need this including the room where the router is and I can't find a single unit to buy?
Yes you can buy additional adapters for around your house.
@@KevinMuldoon The problem is I only need 3 and they come in packs of 2.
Oh that sucks. I only really need one more for my TV but would have to buy two.
How do I get those ping results like show?
Speedtest.net
If I have already one kit of ( tp link AV 600 PA4020P) .... there's any problem if i connect also one more kit ??? This one --> tp link av 2000 some with you. (Totally 4 tp links 😐)
I'm not sure how well they work together. I had four AV2000s and those worked well together, but I'm not sure if they work well with other TP Link devices.
@@KevinMuldoon thank you my friend
You're welcome.
Plugging it upstairs isn't it then running on a different set of electrics as normals houses have 2 loops 1 for downstairs etc
It works fine upstairs in my house. I'm not an electrician so not sure how it's all set up.
@@KevinMuldoon i have bought the tp-link 600mb passthrough kit and im getting 220-250mbps connection between the 2 according to the utility software i installed so happy days
Nice. I need to pick up some more for my televisions. Handy to have.
Why wouldn't you use a large file transfer or something? Testing it with internet speed check is lame. Whats it's max?!
good video
Video should be how to, or results for powerline adapters, i had to look deeper than i should have. Your video should of been at the top of the list. Great Video especially with your honest opinion.
Thanks J Tech.
How are you even getting 350mbps internet? That is insane speed, are you with Virgin or something, what ISP are you with? I'm intrigued, what was you getting before you tested the powerlines?
Yeah Virgin. I have the top package.
@@KevinMuldoon Ultimate download speed, that is insane, I'm still waiting for Virgin to come to my area! Lucky dude, enjoy it and thank you for the review, I'm buying these myself as I'm turning my personal gaming PC into a failover for my home server, as well as replicating my home server to a virtualized environment through VMware Workstation, 250MBps transfer rate soon come!
Nice. Sounds like you will have a good setup.
Their speeds have actually been lower recently so I've had to complain.
@@KevinMuldoon They seem to be the only powerline adapters with dual gigE ports and passthrough, do you know of any other reputable ones, I can't find any others?
I don't have a lot of experience with them apart from the ones I've bought.
Get your units right man! :)
I used to mix up megabits and megabytes a lot. Not because I don't know the difference (I did software development at uni so do have some education in this field), but because I'm mostly speaking about storage. So I'll be talking about TB and MB in one video, so when talking about network speed, I sometimes used the wrong term (but in my head, I knew what I meant!) 🤣
@@KevinMuldoon Ah, I was only giving you shite mate :) Your video is a million times better than the others out there. I ordered some off the back of this all the same. Thanks for making it!
Thanks mate. Glad you liked it.
I'll actually be doing more networking videos soon as I've set up a home network. 👍
a guy asked how fast internet is so he can have an idea of what the real life speed limit is. Saying fast was pretty unhelpful.. is it top secret ? (im assuming you have a 400/25 plan or something like this since it topped out at high 300s even on Ethernet direct) If you dont have a gigabit or faster connection would be nice to see a local area transfer speed test and see what is the max this thing will actually let you do.
My internet is on the first floor but my Gaming Console is in the basement, will this still work ?
If it's on the same electrical ring, it should work.
@@KevinMuldoon upstairs should be on a different circuit and yours worked so I'm guessing it will work
yo, whats your plan?
Did you get the V2 model from Amazon or V1?
+TheLinkedList I honestly don't know. Didn't even know there was two versions.
Yea, apparently so. Don't ask me what the difference is or how you are supposed to know what you're purchasing as no retailer seems to specify. You can find the version following the guide on here: www.tp-link.com/uk/faq-46.html
TheLinkedList I just ordered these on Amazon and got the Version 3. The box is all shiny unlike the previous versions boxes. They work great so far. Just very big units
Thanks, now I finally know what is wrong with my Powerline, this is because I never use the cable that TP link provided. Ah, how stupid I am.
Last old TP Link 500bmp not good enough too much slowly problem original. New TP Link AV2000 is better right now my Smart TV work fine.
I have them and very good for the connection though I pay for Virgin Gamer but get under 100MBps on mine absolute shit! That is hardlinked also.
+CUT!! GAMES!! wow that sucks. You should be getting much more than that. I'd complain as their advertising states that you should get 300Mbs.
I've been thinking impressed with the adapters. So glad I got these instead of a wireless network card.
What cable are you using?
What cable? You mean an ethernet cable?
What type of ethernet cable, cat 5 or 6 for example.
I'm mainly using cat 6 and 7.
Looking at it from an electricians view, I think the reason why your internet speed dropped, is because the cable from your mains to the adapter is smaller than the ones in your walls.
When last old one TP Link AV500 (500mbps) too much slowly problem original. Need get new one like TP LINK AV2000 (2000MBPS SPEED FAST BETTER THAN WORKING NOW FINE). My Television Smart TV nethernet.
Hey who is ur internet provider
Virgin Media
@Kevin Muldoon thanks for your reply, have you ever made a video on a third party router?
Ahem, Megabit ;-)
:)
Glad someone said it :')
How fast is ur internet
Very 😎
Just to be clear. Power line adaptors are not suitable for use with power strips/surge protectors (i.e. should be plugged directly into the wall). This is irrefutable.
The manufacturers of these products are very clear about this. I am surprised such wasn’t spoken to in the user manual or perhaps you didn’t read the manual? I don’t mean to be cheeky but I am curious where the disconnect is on this point. I certainly don’t always read user manuals therefore I am not judging and it could simply be the case this detail was omitted from the manual
No they're not. I made the same mistake when I got it. It's better to plug directly into the wall.
Could you try it on a ps5
Ps4*
I used it in a PS4 for years with no issues.
you do not connect powerline adaptors to a power strip. They MUST be connected directly to a socket!
you plugged it into an extension? really? terrible idea
+mjenabi2 Care to expand?
I believe the user manual says to plug directly into the wall.
+Greg Sherman it is plugged directly into the wall. I initially plugged it into the extension just to test it and swapped plugs around afterwards.
@steve Jr You clearly diddnt watch the whole video he clearly explained why, it was for a test!
The plug it self has an emi filter built into it so plugging your extension into the power line adapter should be the best option as that will filter out any noise from the extension (if you plug it into the next socket and have the extension into the other socket the noise from the extension might cause lower speeds unless the extension also has an emi filter then it won't matter normally)
yep should never plug it into a strip (if its a lightning suppressor built-in they typically also have an EMI filter they can at times completely block the powerline from working, if it's just surge only with they typically don't have EMI filter)
I got some cheap av600 powerline adapters and I need to replace them as they are capped at 40MB/s, so been looking around best price I have seen is 4x av1200 tplink for £80 (but i want one of the 4 to be wifi but most are asking for £60 just for the Wi-Fi powerline adapter)
Easy answer why it works better on the wall... all copper wires... some powerbanks are having a low copper quality or none at all
Ahhh. that's something I hadn't considered.
Watch in 1.25x speed, you're welcome.
0.5 is much better!