Lee Smolin - What's Fundamental in the Cosmos?
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- Dig down to the deepest level of reality, the smallest things that exist, the building blocks of everything else. What do we find? What's there at the very bottom? That's what's 'fundamental'. Everything else is derivative, built up from the bottom. So what's there at the bottom? So what's fundamental?
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Lee Smolin is an American theoretical physicist, a researcher at the Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics, and an adjunct professor of physics at the University of Waterloo. He is best known for his work in loop quantum gravity.
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Lee is simply amazing. We need more Lee!
Closer to Truth: please can you post the full video of this?
This scientist is one of the most intellectually honest one i come across. Indeed, scientists do not know anything thats fundamental in nature. This however does not stop technological advances. For example, the first useful axe could have been invented without any knowledge of any scientific theory. This tells us theories are theories and not necessarily a pre-requisite for inventions benefiting the world. While no one knows whata fundamental in an absolute sense, this does not stop medicine, all having side effects, from saving lives. If we know whats fundamental, western medicine may not have any side effects and patients of some diseases could be fully cured wholistically.
If he are intelectual honest YOU Not undertood Nothing in phisch. Trust me guys not knows phisch left behind honest fundamental phichs. He minds concern phisc not picture phich reality because he not show phich evidence but only theory speculation wíthout proof. Challatan.
The Theory of Universal Functions ... is Sir Issac Newton's greatest discovery that that he never realized he had made .... over 300 years ago, with the Watchmaker Analogy.
Everything makes complete sense ... when everything is an ABSTRACT (time, space, Laws) or PHYSICAL ( matter, energy) Function ... with a purpose, rules, properties, INFORMATION .. and made by an intelligence.
There are only two existences: PHYSICAL ( ie Universe) and the ABSTRACT ( ie realm of the MIND).
Knowledge, information, Thoughts, ideas, theories, questions, answers, logic, reasoning, ethics ... reason, purpose, rules, LAWS, design .. are all ABSTRACT CONSTRUCTS from the mind of an intelligence.
Anything ... that has a purpose, rules, properties, INFORMATION ... that can be extracted & used by an intelligence ... is made by an intelligence.
Everything in the Universe ... has a purpose, rules, properties & useful information.
This debate is over.
The Universe & Life ... were UNNATURALLY made ... by an intelligence ... for an intelligence.
But unfortunately, Human Beings are FREE ... to think, believe, say & do was he/she wants ... with the data & information EXTRACTED from the physical existence.
@USA TAMONDOMUNI you still confused what is absolute reality or whats absolutely fundamental in nature. You confused theory with reality. Absolute is the highest order. Theory is a temporarily assumed truth . Theory of Evolution is a theory. It sounds intuitively true. It cannot be proven Absolutely true. You are like a charlatan basing on BELIEF.
Actually the first ex was created with scientific theory. Though it was a very simple scientific theory
@@xenphoton5833 many inventions were made through discoveries and not basing on scientific methods or theories.
It is remarkable that the sound is decent and the camera doesn’t wobble….
It’s a green screen.
They are inside a basement due to COVID.
Dont worry what he are saing is Science worthless. He Not knows Nothing concern phisc.
Fundamental Karen. Really on a boat.
At 6:33 Smolin mentions Charles Sanders Peirce. He also suggests that the answers might lie within biology. He's right. It's what I'm researching, in the synthesis of Peirce's semiotic theory with the biosemiotics of Jakob von Uexküll - which, imho, factors in the mind-body problem like no other. We need a decent theory for the mind-body problem because bodies wire brains. The mind-body problem is key to understanding what it is like to be a human, or a bat, or a fish, or a dog.
After searching...I see why you added his middle name
Amazing discussion.
Love to listen to great minds. I myself drive myself crazy with what it All came from.
Lee Smolin is the way to go!
No matter how the universe was created, or what caused it to expand, in the end Empty Space is the one and only success story. This universe is one step in the evolution of the factory of empty space.
We are at an interesting time when we start questioning if our taken-for-granted assumptions about laws, time, space and naturalness are right.
Just 25 years ago, were two more revolutions: What is consciousness, or what is the "self"? And what are dark matter and energy?
We thought we had a handle on matter, only to find out that the matter we were studying makes up only about 5% of what's there. And consciousness studies are finally being taken seriously, mostly because we now have ways to measure and quantify.
As well as starting a classical, determined action through space, could causation end a quantum, probablistic measurement in time? Time measured from the caused present back to the undetermined future in quantum field?
Would help to have breakthrough in psychology / consciousness?
Alcatraz, GG boat ride..
Well that’s the best ending for a biology student! Great video
Yes! Something akin to natural selection is the only non brute force to explain the constants. That is another notch to Penrose's CCC (Conformal Cyclic Cosmology), aeon after aeon the universe has been literally evolving, to be a more hospitable representation of its consciousness, which I agree with some other comments, is more fundamental than particle physics. The latter emerges from the former, as postulated by Prof. Don Hoffman of UC Irvine.
True.
This evolution also may be the solution to the "fine tuning" mistery.
Based on what he’s saying they’re adopting German idealism of Immanuel Kant and Wilhelm Hegel. The philosophy of Hegelian dialectics is that of negation v negation History progresses following the precepts of Karl Marx and dialectical materialism.
Doesn’t that presuppose that consciousness is physical?
The Theory of Universal Functions .. is obviously deduced from the scientific explanation for the natural phenomena of:
1. Abstract & Physical constructs
2. Machine Analogies
3. Fine Tuning
4. Natural Thermodynamic Systems.
Everything makes complete sense .. when every is an ABSTRACT ( time space, Laws of Nature) or PHYSICAL ( matter, energy) Function .. with a purpose, rules, properties & INFORMATION ... unnaturally made by an intelligence.
There are only the PHYSICAL (ie Universe) or ABSTRACT ( ie Mind) existence/realities.
Thought, beliefs, theories, reasoning, logic, ... information, knowledge ... purpose, reason, design, rules, laws .. are ABSTRACT constructs from the mind of an intelligence.
Anything that has purpose, rules, properties, information .. that can be extract & used by an intelligence ... are made by an intelligence.
Universal Functions .. is the Theory of everything .. and is all about abstract & physical constructs from the mind of an intelligence.
@@deanodebo consciousness being physical doesn't limit it just to our limited perception of a 3D universe.
There's so many ways to explain other things that would still be physical and naturally occurring. We just expand our conception of what being physical/natural is
👍 Smolin
I had thought 13,800,000,000 years was a long time. But I’m not sailing anywhere. There must be things which are true but uncaused. You cannot explain their existence from causation. They are fundamental.
I don’t think you get anywhere by asking what caused fundamental things. What day is it. Thursday- eat your cabbage. Why do we always have cabbage on Thursday? It’s Thursday- eat your cabbage.
Fairness is fundamental. It is most important
Are these videos recent or were they taken many years ago.
Space? Time? Particles? What is the most fundamental issue in reality? Relations - every existing item somehow recognizes another and reacts. And what is the crown of relations? LOVE :)
Power is fundamental. There is no power above the greatest power.
Might causation bring about time and space?
When you are stuck, you made a mistake earlier.
It's pure speculation of course, like all answers that broach the questions of what came before our universe, but I quite like Lee's evolving universe. It doesn't answer any fundamental truths of course, but it quite neatly explains apparent design with an existing theory that has already answered such a question.
It doesn’t explain apparent design today, what if what we know now is part of what actually truth is out there.
I see time as the product of motion. I think that is a fundamental concept that is still ambiguous. T = M
Sacredness, reality, infinite love, peace, compassion, contentment, peace of mind.
I appreciate this interview and I always admire both of these professors as we entering the unknown territory but to accomplish a Nobel prize 🏆 award and crediting my professors for the education is going to be magnificent
Empirical cosmological observations may all add up under SPIRAL cosmological redshift hypothesis and model, that has a 94.26 quintillion:1 parsimony advantage over SCM-LCDM current consensus champion competing hypothesis. If SPIRAL over 99% of all matter is normal matter. Cosmic expansion ended 4/365(5782) into history w/ the entire universe approximates the visible universe, a radius estimated at 2B LY. Reference SPIRAL in Pearlman YeC volume II
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Laws of nature doesn't have to evolve, but be what they have always been. One infinite space, certain amount of materia in it in a constant movement in relation to other particles/mass concentrations. There is a problem with the concept of ..elementary particle.., as it is not constructed by anything, but has to have a shape, a function to receive & emit information and a limited density. In a case of infinite amount of materia, where the materia is organised as hierarchies like we can observe today but truly going to infinity and if there would be similarly to our experience/the universe we are familiar with, a change for intelligent life forms etc. creatures, there would be a creature wondering a size bigger than the observable universe(what we can observe..) must be the minimum size for materia and so on. So, is there elementary particle, or could it be that the materia is always constructed of smaller particles?
Why not stop the boat somewhere quiet?
Lee Smolin is fundamental in the Cosmos.
I wonder what they talked about on the way back?
Is this Istanbul ?
Its Alcatraz ferry.
infinity is the most fundamental and the reason for all existence and all existence it self
0×♾=♾
infinite love for Infinity!!!!!!!!!let's do our best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..................>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
The further you go the less you know.
The Cosmos follows Universal Law.
Attraction, repulsion, and frequency; "Flow."
Everything in the universe may be broken down by these three fundamentals.
#rotaercmai
Two items that's not fundamental to or for the universe to exist time and math we made them up cause to us it fits
Empty space, materia, movement, force, infinity
"It just is". The answer to everything!
Though art/design I can invent/manipulate the universe exponentially, (in my head anyway), so the universe is doing a great job atm of adapting/evolving;)
Radio active , the decay , radio waves.....is that the real form of mater...
There are no fundamental understandings in physics. Physics is about understanding and predicting behavior. It doesn't know what an electron is. Only how it behaves.
That's very well said. And it is the reason why scientists sound like fruitcakes when they talk about fundamental questions.
@@app0ll0nysus It really depends on how much time they have spent thinking and talking about them. But knowing some formulas and having an understanding of how some systems behave gives a person no philosophical insights.
Meanings are fundamental. Things are symbols of meanings and exist for the exploration of meanings.
So shortly, we know many things about physics but still don't know what we wanna know!?
And never will...
Stupid thought if we could see our Universe outside itself, could it solve problems?
Natural rule is fundamental.
Time
Empty
And infinitely blank space is fundamental.
And light over dark is fundamental.
The NTEAA theory
Nature is fundamental but an underlying reality which is more fundamental is information which Lee smolin himself has stated
Time isn't fundamental, it is emergent like space...
Empty, how is this fundamental? The prevailing theory is something from nothing
Again space isn't fundamental, it is an emergent property
Yeah but at one point all was dark so... And still dark is over light...
from my perspective, there seems to be various levels of reality. the everyday reality seems to be the one of "particles". waves seem to be underneath that. but i think it is likely that we have no chance at all to get to the absolute fundamental layer. while i think we can make some progress in consciousness, i do not see any way to actually prove what consciousness is.
I thought he was wearing a glove.
Well, speak for yourself Robert - the speed of light, electro-magnetism, and gravity may not be elements that _you_ believe are "fundamental" to the universe, but I most certainly do!
7:00 no. clear Moses had it right to begin with. By design and all for us. To allow for free will to be aware and grow via faith, obedience, study and service and grow our connection with The One, vs opt to live in denial. The skepticism and incredulity of creation ex-nihlo 5,782 years ago is proof free will still working like a charm, as it was on day six when we made our first mistake.
A day is like a year or 1000 years to God.
The New Testament written 1900 years ago by Jews, said Yeshua( Salvation) Hameshiach will return for a 1000 year reign ... after Man has rules he Earth for 6 x 1000 years. And Jesus will rule with 144 000 Jews from the 12 tribes who accepted him as Lord & Savior during the 7 year tribulation.
Indeed. Religious Jews are correct that they are living in end times, and that God's promised Messiah will appear .... again.
Moses was indeed correct when he said God(plural) created(singular) the Heaven & the Earth. And then said in the next verse ... the Spirit of God ( not God) was hovered over the dark waters covering the Earth. Moses had a reason for using Elohim ... using plural & singular pronouns for God ... saying Man was made in God's(plural pronoun) image and it is not good for Man ( or God) to be alone.
The Hebrew for "In the beginning" also means "covenant" and has a hidden picture meaning of "Son of God .. by his hand .. is the sign(cross)."
Abraham saw God in three men, as well as standing next to him. Abraham worshiped all three men equally ... and fed the milk & meat. Hmmmm?
And Issac was NOT Abraham's only begotten Son. The binding of Issac was a prophecy ... that God will send his only Son to be a sin sacrifice that will satisfy God's just nature to punish all who sin.
Again. Moses made it clear in the first two verses of Genesis ... that God is a Father, Son & Spirit ... and they are one God.
Jesus is returning in the Year 6000 since man sinned.
God had a reason for a 6 day creation & the 7th day for Rest & for God. God knew it would take 7 000 years for the last human being to be pro-Created who will have the faith of Abraham .. to be God's Chosen People(children).
8:18 there are no gods at all, there are two cycles, that is why they are astonished.
H’mmmmm? Two cycles? Four wheels!...Maybe not Cycles at all! Anti Gravity cycles zero wheels Now that is fundamental!
I am telling you.. somebody did made all this.,!!
it's not that this desire to find "eternal laws" is in contrast with observation. It's that you cant find an answer, my deal Smolin, so you hurry to fins silly ones like "multiverses" or "evolution of laws" (and what caused that ??). This discussion exemplify that even atheist scientists chant escape to acknowledge "fine tuning".
Fine tuning is a joke to argue about where there millions wrongs and few rights..
@@ManiBalajiC the "few rights" are a stable, complex universe, capable of sounds, colors, flavors. Capable of life and consciousness. capable of being able to be "lived" .... "few rights" ...
@@francesco5581 Why was it fine tuned?
@@amithk2718 because you dont have a cloud of hydrogen or 3 atoms running wild ... and instead you have a complex universe "by chance".
Consciousness is the fundamental thing and the only real thing, everything else is an illusion. As long as we have desires, we are stuck in the relative world.
Once we lose our desires, we get into the Absolute reality of pure consciousness.
Yes - Bhagavad Gita
Wtf is going on with these comments
The oneness expands and contracts to leave a 'toilet ring', this Ring expands and contracts with the oneness, and we see and act in time (the Ring expanding) as cycloid movements of efficiency as demonstrated by quarks and a new baseball season.
The most fundamental thing is the most useful meaning. The most useful meaning is one which reconciles death with effort.
Science discovers meaningful things, but will there be a point where our physical and spiritual needs becomes fulfilled by by a convergence of scientific discoveries. If this happens will the question of what is fundamental become extraneous? Is physical and spiritual satisfaction the end of science? Not its goal its transformation.
Nothing is says it all
Consciousness is the "most fundamental thing". And it creates matter. Not the other way around. Continuing to finding more and more fundamental matter will not lead us in the right direction.
Any evidence that supports this view?
What consciousness?
What "creates the matter"?
Does Cosmos still exist while You sleep?
That is not a useful explanation because we cannot make that into a theory. We cannot discover anything new consciousness being fundamental just explains away the problem.
So I just created this bowl of rigatoni? Sweet.
QUANTUM MECHANICS
DARK MATTER
DARK ENERGY
IS THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL THINGS
Physics self is wrong.
Even light is not fast.
what?
@@ReverendDr.Thomas oh hello friend, good to see you here as well lol.
@@ReverendDr.Thomas umm ok? you okay dude? have you taken your meds today? Because your understanding doesn't seem to be at its best right now... Or was it ever?
@@ReverendDr.Thomas also on second note, if you really were a member of the holy priesthood, then no one would be called a slave... are you a heretic?
In comparsion to distances bt object in Cosmos the light is incredibly slow, thats true.
General relativity is 100% wrong.
@@Hallo99999 because light is not fast.
Great statement. Very effective in informativeness. I'm being sarcastic. What's wrong with it? Why not qft?
@@Robinson8491 our eyes sees faster than light travel.
Our observations is fastest.
We need light to see everything but it doesn't mean light is fast.
@@ujjwalbhattarai8670 do you agree it takes time for light to reach your eyes?
@@Robinson8491 definitely light is taking time but our eyes. Our eyes doesn't take single second to see billions years far light distance starts.