How to Change Differential Fluid for S197 Mustangs (2011-2013)
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- čas přidán 18. 03. 2022
- We are going over the steps to change Differential Fluid for a 2012 Mustang GT.
1. Tools - 0:16
2. Step 1 (Lift Vehicle) - 0:50
3. Step 2 (Clean Area) - 0:58
4. Step 3 (Remove Differential Housing Cover Bolts) - 1:41
5. Step 4 (Lift Differential Housing Cover) - 2:20
6. Step 5 (Remove Top Housing Cover Bolt) - 2:50
7. Step 6 (Remove Differential Cover) - 3:04
8. Step 7 (Remove Rear Axle Vent Bolt) - 3:20
9. Step 8 (Install New Rear Axle Vent Bolt) - 3:37
10. Step 9 (Remove Old Gasket (Cover)) - 4:00
11. Step 10 (Cover Differential Assembly) - 5:52
12. Step 11 (Remove Old Gasket (Housing)) - 6:03
13. Step 12 (Uncover Differential Assembly) - 6:53
14. Step 13 (Set Differential Housing Gasket) - 7:03
15. Step 14 (Install Differential Housing Cover) - 7:27
16. Step 15 (Install Differential Housing Cover Bolts) - 7:45
17. Step 16 (Torque Differential Housing Cover Bolts) - 8:17
18. Step 17 (Mix Slip Lock & Gear Lube) - 8:40
19. Step 18 (Clean Fill Area) - 9:40
20. Step 19 (Remove Filler Plug) - 9:50
21. Step 20 (Fill Differential Housing (2 Qt)) - 10:07
22. Step 21 (Install Filler Plug) - 10:47
23. Step 22 (Lower Vehicle) - 10:58
24. Step 23 (Remove Filler Plug) - 11:07
25. Step 24 (Fill Differential Housing (~0.5 Qt)) - 11:20
26. Step 25 (Install Filler Plug) - 11:49
27. Step 26 (Clean Area) - 12:07
28. Test Drive - 12:15
Products Used:
This video contains affiliate links for which I may receive compensation.
Rear Differential Cover Gasket - lmr.com/item/LLR-F880/lubeloc...
AMSOIL 75W-140 Gear Lube - www.amsoil.com/p/severe-gear-...
AMSOIL Slip Lock - www.amsoil.com/p/slip-lock-ad...
Brake & Parts Cleaner - www.amsoil.com/p/brake-and-pa...
Plastic Razor Blade Scraper - amzn.to/3tj7dzW
Vent Valve (P/N:4R3Z-4022-AA) - amzn.to/3tj7IKk
Digital Torque Wrench - www.harborfreight.com/hand-to...
Extension Set - www.harborfreight.com/wobble-...
Semi-Permanent Threadlock - www.harborfreight.com/02-oz-r...
Tools:
Torque Wrench (5-80 ft-lb)
3/8" Socket Wrench
3/8" Extension Bar
13mm Socket
9/16" Deep Well Socket
Semi-Permanent Threadlock
Flat-Head Screwdriver
Utility Knife
Shop Towels
Brake & Parts Cleaner
Jack Stands
Jack
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You should always open the fill-in-screw before talking out the oil. If anything happens and it is not possible to open the fill-in-screw you can not drive anymore to a garage or somebody to get help because no possibility to put oil in.
That's very good advice. Good call.
Would oil come out from the fill-in-screw if you do this first?
You might have a few drops come out, depending on how level the surface is.
@@JonJonChannel Car has to stand absolutely even without any load inside. Then there should nothing coming out, if it was filled correctly. To refill you put oil inside this hole till it is coming out, then wait till nothing is coming aymore, the put the screw in.
Great video man, good step by step info.
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Very clear instructions. Thanks! 👍🏁
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I'm a young man, and I've always wanted to my own work on my car and I'm making a spreadsheet for the expenses and you make it an absolute breeze. Thank you my brother! You're super talented, and you have my fullest appreciation!
Thank you very much for your positive feedback. It's always appreciated!!! I'm also very glad these videos are able to help others.
I love this vid so much!! Thank you
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Completely detailed well done. I change my oil and filter today and transmission fluids on my 14 mustang GT 6 speed transmission and when I started to do the rear end fluid I cannot find anything to fit the fill plug now I see why I was thinking the Allen key used on the transmission was going to work but now I know thanks a lot for the information
I'm glad it helped!!! Thank you for the support
I like the send off at the end.
Thank you 😊
Nice video, sir thank you
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very good my friend !
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Good video !
Thank you very much
I've done this swap many times, that bag looks a lot easier than the handpump method.
It did help when refilling differential. I would recommend it.
Great video, 2014 Mustang is also a s197 btw.
Thank you
Good video. Subscribed. I have a 2006 GT and I was installing a rear sway bar over the weekend and I saw that there was some light blackish residue at the bottom of the diff cover almost looking like a grease stain. I’m the original owner and it’s just shy of 100K miles. Should this cover be completely dry? I never noticed any oil on the garage floor. It’s been stored all winter. How do you check the oil level? Just put your finger in the fill hole? I never jacked by the rear diff before so I’m not sure why it would be leaking if it is.
Original owner, very nice. Typically, the differential cover is dry, however sometimes grease and fuilds from the road can splatter under the vehicle (reasonably). Yes, you can easily check the level via fill plug. If you remove the bolt and the fluid is close to the fill hole, you're good. Leak can be caused by a defect in the gasket (it happens). Are you noticing any issues (noise or vibration) while driving?
@@mcgurrentertainment thanks for your response. My buddy says it’s normal to have some weep and I found some stuff online saying the same. I will clean up the cover and see if I see any more. It looks like something that’s been there a while. I have found this car to always have some rear end noise but it’s hard to tell if it’s the rear end or the tires. I’ve read some other comments from people saying the same about rear end noise.
Very nice video how often should you change the differential oil for maintenance? I would plan to do this and paint the outer surface of the cover too. Thank you
Thank you. Per the Ford Manual, "do not check or change fluid unless a leak is suspected, service is required or the assembly has been submerged in water." Ford-design axles are lubricated for life.
@@mcgurrentertainment thanks for the prompt response, I would have to spray it with brake cleaner to further check it out for a leak. Thank you so much I really appreciate your advice.
Awesome video, I am curious why the 2012 mustang requires 1 more pint of fluid than the 2013/2014 as per the owners manuals
Thank you. It is odd.
A job well done right,
Thank you very much!!
My Rear end makes noticeable noise. I hear a lot of Mustang owners have this issue. I have s V 6 2011 if i get my differential serviced should i upgrade the gear ratio? And to what ratio?
I don't have a good answer for this one
Since you seem to be amazing and replying to comments on a year old video, how did you manage to still get under the vehicle to fill and replace the plug after putting it back on the ground?
It was not easy. I had to suck in my stomach and reach with my arm.
Hey I have to change my dif from a 2013 mustang v6, can you tell me from what year to what year will it fit?
2011-2013
Do I need a Lock Slip for 2013 Mustang GT (Auto) no track pack?
According to your owners manual, "Add 4 oz. (118 ml) of Additive Friction Modifier XL-3 or equivalent meeting Ford specification EST-M2C118-A for complete refill of Traction-Lok or TORSEN® axles."
Excellent tutorial. Couple of questions: 1) Is it exactly the same procedure for 3.7? 2) How often should you change the fluid, 3) Is it OK to replace valve later (or only can do it with empty diff).
Thank you. Those are good questions, I'll try my best to answer them.
1) Its very possible. Starting in 2011, both the V6 (3.7L) & V8 (5.0L Coyote) Mustangs used the Ford 8.8 rear ends.
2) Per the Ford Manual, "do not check or change fluid unless a leak is suspected, service is required or the assembly has been submerged in water." Ford-design axles are lubricated for life.
3) Yes. The valve can be replaced anytime. Since this was the cause of the leak, it needed to be replaced.
Hope this information helps.
@@mcgurrentertainmentThank you very much! So if it looks OK all dry etc. maybe I shouldn't touch it? I did have the fluid changed 30-40k miles ago so it's not factory. Another question is are you sure you have to put as much fluid as it fits in there, another opinion I was given it's just 2 quarts of fluid, I don't know what's the official Ford's version.
40k miles ago is not bad. If you're not having issues, it should be OK. The service manual states, "Service refill capacities are determined by filling the axle to the bottom of the fill hole with the axle at ride height." It also calls for 5-5.25 pts (2.5-2.625 qts).
@@mcgurrentertainment Sounds good to me. Amsoil says 5.1 pts on their page, there must be something to it. Thank you again for clarification!
@@mcgurrentertainment So if it ain't leaking no need to change it?
Does the 2013 mustang 5.0 have a rear axle vent valve?
Its likely the 2013 Mustang GT is equipped with a 8.8" Solid Rear Axle.
My vent valve is leaking. Do I need to drain the fluid just to change the valve?
No, you can change the valve without draining the differaital.
Did you notice any difference in the drivability after doing this? Also where can I get that gasket you used?
The drive felt normal before and after the oil change; just keeping up with the maintenance. I left a link in the description from LMR for the gasket.
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Any difference with 05-10 v6 mustang? I have an 08
I don't have the service manual in front of me for that year, but if I recall, the 2008 V6 requires 3.2 pints of gear lube vs. the 5.1 pints for the 2012 GT. For the torque specs and steps, you may want to consult the service manual.
Is it just me or do they not offer the flexible bag anymore??? Would buying a pump help with this if I can only use the bottle?
I talked to my supplier and he said they are sold out (supplier chain issues). You can buy the pump. If you use the bottle only, you might have trouble getting to the fill hole.
@@mcgurrentertainment Thank you! Ordered three quarts and the pump
Quick question, why are you using 75w140 instead of 75w90? I am thinking of getting 75w140 but OEM says 75w90
Ford's Owners manuals and service manuals (from 2006-2014), state 75w140. ( www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/catalog/owner_guides/12musog3e.pdf )
Where did you find the 75w90 OEM information?
You got a coolant flush for the S197 by any chance?
Sadly, we do not.
As per the TSB requriements a friction modifier motocraft XL3 is required. Why wasn't it been utilized in the video?
Step 17 (Mix Slip Lock & Gear Lube) - 8:40
Slip lock is the Friction Modifier. Good attention to detail. I like when people verify requirements.
thanks for pointing it out! Won't say that I'm super attentive, but I am, like some of us here, own a mustang gt 2013 and I experience the rear axle fluid leak that was described in TSB 12-8-15. I am intending to perform this fix on my own very soon@@mcgurrentertainment
You got this. It's not difficult, just take your time.
Oil you linked has already has friction modifier in it. You added some more just for good measure?
Something like that
@@mcgurrentertainment yeah, people telling that included modifier is not enough, LSD will lock up
Before changing the differential fluid, we did contact AMSOIL, and they did inform us their fluid contained Friction Modifier. However, their lubricant is formulated for typical limited-slip differentials, and the Mustang falls under the atypical category. So, leaning on the side of caution (and following procedure), we decide to add the Friction Modifier. At a minimum, we can at least minimize gear-housing chatter. Good question and attention to detail.
What’s the part # for the vent valve?
(P/N:4R3Z-4022-AA)
Serious question mines locked up and started smoking and completely stopped my whole car should I get my mechanic to change the oil or????
Sounds like you may have more problems than just the oil. You might want to seek a professional shop.
Probably going to need a new diff rip
hey man! question for the gasket, you didn’t need rtv to reseal it?
Correct. LMR states, "No RTV Silicone Required" for this specific gasket. Just made the job quicker and easier. Good question.
@@mcgurrentertainment Gotcha! Thanks brother, i think the gasket i got for mine might need it. Believe it was the yukon gasket on American Muscle
It looks like the Yukon gasket from AM doesn't require it either (always double-check). The description said no other modifications are required, and many reviewers mentioned not using rtv.
Is it required to always use thread lock? Will that make it difficult to remove those bolts in the future?
It's not required. it's just recommended. We are using (blue) Medium Strength Threadlocker, which it ideal for nuts and bolts that may need to be taken off later. Using High Strength (Red) or Penetrating (Green) Threadlocker would be a bad idea for this application.
@@mcgurrentertainment ok thank you for the prompt response. I will keep that in mind when I do mine.
Do you have a put the car down on a level surface for the second bag? My is to low .
It's ideal to top off the differential on a level surface to obtain the correct amount of fluid. If you have ramps, you can lift the front as well.
@@mcgurrentertainment also I cannot find a rear axle vent valve for my car , autozone and O’Reillys never heard of it , 2014 ford mustang 3.7 thanks!
I left a link in the description. I also seen it through Amazon, CJ Pony and American Muscle.
@@mcgurrentertainment is it the same size for the 2014. 3.7 model?
If you have an 8.8 rear end, it will fit. How to identify if you have an 8.8 rear end: lmr.com/products/Mustang-7-5-8-8-Rear-End-Axle-Info
Measure the bolt distance.11" = 8.8 rear end.
Will I have to replace the gasket for a service change ?
Yes
@@mcgurrentertainment Thank you!
Anytime
installing the gasket should be faced into the cover not into the gears is that right ?
I have alot of squeaking coming from the back of my Mustang 2011 V6 any suggestions?
Were able to narrow down the general location of the noise?
@mcgurrentertainment thanks for responding. I really did enjoy all your videos and learn a lot from your channel. it might be between the sway bar and all the system.
Hmmmm...tough call. I'll see what I can find
@mcgurrentertainment Well I enjoy your videos if you can find something it be great to watch a video on channel. 😆 great channel
Thank you
So it only used 1 and 1/2 bag to fill
No, it was closer to 2.5 quarts. The service manual calls for 5-5.25 pts (2.5-2.625 qts).
Can you come do mine? I want new oil. My knees are bad, I just had miniscus surgery
Sadly, no. Sorry my friend
Can I still hear rear end chatter on that drive off at the end?
I couldn't hear it
Mines stop when I did this service
Very nice
No drain plug damn
Unfortunately
Taking the lid off just to do an oil change is so barbaric. Good ole Ford
This is the way
:::turns off montage workout music, uses brass brushes on drill to clean gaskets from cover, scratches butt, spits tobacco juice, picks teeth with plastic scraper:::::
And crack open a beer.
Is it necessary to replace the axle vent bolt?
Depends. This vent valve appeared to leak, so we decided to replace it. It's typically good practice to replace the vent valve when changing the differential oil, but it is not required.
@@mcgurrentertainment thanks for the quick response. I'm working on my leaking rear diff right now. I'm stumped on whether I should use a gasket by itself or motorcraft high performance engine rtv silicone or both. If both where do I put the rtv? The gasket that I have doesn't seem to have any sealer on it, just looks like a regular gasket by felpro.
Verify through the manufacturer. But according to Fel Pro, "Using a Fel-Pro gasket means you don’t have to keep multiple tubes of different RTVs on hand." So you may not need RTV.
@@mcgurrentertainment awesome 👍 thanks man
Anytime 😊