Huge nerfs in new patch! what now?

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Komentáře • 193

  • @macariuswrench
    @macariuswrench Před 27 dny +164

    Had the pleasure of meeting BSJ at a dota event once, he was surprisingly down to earth and VERY funny

    • @howiieb
      @howiieb Před 26 dny +11

      Shame what he did to Benny Harvey though. Miss you big man. Gone but not forgotten

    • @irsyaadkenway
      @irsyaadkenway Před 26 dny +1

      ​@@howiiebwho is Benny Harvey?

    • @howiieb
      @howiieb Před 26 dny +5

      @@irsyaadkenway Both of us are referencing comedy skits from the same comedian; I think if I say any more it'll ruin the moment

    • @apex9806
      @apex9806 Před 26 dny +2

      He was short? Is that what you mean by down to earth?

    • @rickyrico900
      @rickyrico900 Před 26 dny

      @@apex9806I have ur address I’m on the way

  • @theannoyer2953
    @theannoyer2953 Před 26 dny +69

    tinker gonna become a medic in the future

    • @deadmagnet6318
      @deadmagnet6318 Před 26 dny +17

      Patch 7.36C:
      Tinker rearm removed
      New ultimate ability: ubercharge

    • @Chasodey
      @Chasodey Před 26 dny

      We already have kritzkrieg and medigun on Io. So I think Tinker should get a Vaccinator, also looks good thematically with his bubble from matrix and Vacc also gives bubbles to healed person​@@deadmagnet6318

    • @stevedaguy9639
      @stevedaguy9639 Před 26 dny +3

      I've been playing tinker 5 its actually awesome

    • @kingkezz9188
      @kingkezz9188 Před 26 dny +1

      its all the low skill animals on reddit whinging about tinker for years despite it being so easy to shut down in upper brackets. They might aswell remove the hero from the game at this point

    • @DUKEHadToDoItToEm
      @DUKEHadToDoItToEm Před 23 dny

      @@deadmagnet6318 Tinker with an Ubercannon like in TF2 is a great idea. Him and IO could function as two sides of the same coin, both tethering supports but make one heavily offensively based and the other more defensively focused

  • @TheJimmyStoner
    @TheJimmyStoner Před 26 dny +7

    It should be noted, Monkey Kings updated shard now makes it usable and so much better. With the talent giving 100 primal spring damage, it now deals an additional almost 300 damage to everyone hit (not just the end) without needing to spring. Actually huge, especially for support MK's. Blast to play too.

  • @GufrRedgo
    @GufrRedgo Před 27 dny +23

    Please do a followup on your TB experiments :)

  • @Divin3Valor
    @Divin3Valor Před 26 dny +34

    No buff on Qop or Huskar is kinda crazy

    • @DUKEHadToDoItToEm
      @DUKEHadToDoItToEm Před 26 dny +8

      QoPs self damage magic amp facet is still so bad lmao

    • @mejfuz
      @mejfuz Před 26 dny +4

      They fuckin murdered my boi Huskar in 7.36, then they shitted on his corpse in .36a and now theyve dug him out again just to burn him by the armlet nerf. Fuck this shit.

    • @enchantedMangouser1331
      @enchantedMangouser1331 Před 26 dny +2

      ​@@DUKEHadToDoItToEmsame sentiment, so hard to do laning stage when 22% of spell damage you deal is directly returned to QOP and with her measly HP at early game, that's just so hard on the hero, and they even remove the heal component of shadowstrike. Really sad for QOP this patch, and he is not even in meta for like years already.

    • @aizenvaltgx5824
      @aizenvaltgx5824 Před 26 dny

      @@enchantedMangouser1331 its 20% now, and u can rush dagon to offset that, dagon lvl 1 give 15% spell lifesteal, and u can burst someone easily

    • @DUKEHadToDoItToEm
      @DUKEHadToDoItToEm Před 26 dny +3

      @@aizenvaltgx5824 yeah but then you have to buy dagon to essentially be nyx assassin but worse in every sense of the word lol, why not just be nyx?

  • @kckillakrack9714
    @kckillakrack9714 Před 26 dny +3

    People always sleep on euls with sand king and I have no clue why? It's probably the best item you can get on him

  • @angelbessinger7108
    @angelbessinger7108 Před 25 dny +2

    As a zuse support player in 4.5k and 1k mmr I have found post patch he still feels good even when you have 3 to 5 running across the map at you.
    Octrien core and shard has let him basically do his thing.

    • @angelbessinger7108
      @angelbessinger7108 Před 25 dny

      Note my avg timing on the MPS and shard are about 15 mins in and at that point you can push any lane , gank or jungle and be fast enough you can jump and run if you can't fight what shows up.

  • @divineconfettienjoyer5701

    IDK why but I always want to build OC and thought it would be interesting when I saw the slark changes. Hopefully it ends up being a good build.

  • @RmXs
    @RmXs Před 27 dny

    Thanks for the analysis! Keep up the good work! 👍

  • @tangoconcorazon1861
    @tangoconcorazon1861 Před 26 dny

    Great vid, just a detail, it's true that a 200 reduction in 650 area in sand king storm is more than half the area, but in reality it only matters how far away you are, so the only check it's doing is distance in which case it didn't lose 50% + effectivness and it just lot a flat 30 %. I see you always mention this so I brought it up

    • @DecemberGift
      @DecemberGift Před 26 dny

      you cant just say it only matters how far away one individual unit is for a big aoe ability like this, the second there are more than 1 people in the aoe, all of a sudden the reduction in area matters a large amount.
      if it was a point target ability than sure, but as long as its an aoe ability like chrono or something, you are actively trying to fit as many eneimies into the aoe as possible, and so the area absolutely matters

    • @tangoconcorazon1861
      @tangoconcorazon1861 Před 25 dny

      @@DecemberGift well for each person inside the area it's still a simple distance check lol.
      The only thing that matters is how far a unit is from sand king, meaning, if you reduce the radius by 200, you just can be 200 units further away from sand king, it doesn't matter how much area those 200 units would cover, each unit is an individual distance check.

  • @Rieltar
    @Rieltar Před 27 dny +9

    Mirana Solar Flare sounds like ye ooooolde Troll Warlord ultimate

  • @yasahiroitou1307
    @yasahiroitou1307 Před 26 dny +4

    Time zone pierce debuff immunity is big considering leashed got buff last 7.36a also. Void can just go nullifier everygame bc they also give nullifier 10% slow.

    • @ezravldina3467
      @ezravldina3467 Před 26 dny

      It's still weak as fuck, you can just eul most of the time and by the time he gets nullifier, most can one vs one

  • @Davidchecker2009
    @Davidchecker2009 Před 26 dny +5

    They should fix Visage's Facet 1. At the moment you can't use the gargoyle teleport alt ability when your summon familiars ultimate is on cooldown. Which is stupid because why do I have to wait for 2 minutes to be able to teleport gargoyles to me after summoning them? Makes the facet so much worse...

    • @Divin3Valor
      @Divin3Valor Před 26 dny +1

      They second facet is even worse, but overall he’s pretty strong

    • @AzarakiDragon
      @AzarakiDragon Před 26 dny +3

      @@Divin3Valor The second facet is so terrible. I guess I'm glad you still get rewarded for having the skill to be able to micro, and that the non-micro talent isn't just better. But damn it's impossible for visage to stun someone running away from him unless he Grave Chills them first or has like BoT2, and even then he has to get so out of position cause his birds are always behind him.

  • @SaltedCoffee400
    @SaltedCoffee400 Před 26 dny

    Ive have been playing sven for a while, and feels really good having an above 60% khanda rush seems to be the play, the help potential wins all fights.

  • @lardoram
    @lardoram Před 23 dny

    Thanks for the info bsj!

  • @mmortal8183
    @mmortal8183 Před 25 dny

    I want to try BB and Oracle. The BB chases heroes while Oracle uses Purifying Flames on BB's back, causing BB to fire goo in an AoE on enemies.

  • @johnvishwas9117
    @johnvishwas9117 Před 26 dny +1

    Had a 64% win rate with the Omni. And even the losses were because of griefing mostly. Now they’ve relegated him to only support.

  • @Wiz00445
    @Wiz00445 Před 26 dny +1

    Thoughts on tusk and veno (as supports)? I played both yesterday and they felt great. Tusk can trade even better now and an additional second on tag team really comes in handy. The plague carrier for veno felt REALLY great simply due to having 3 charges of plague wards but I am not sure which facet for veno is actually better

    • @cynicsoul6451
      @cynicsoul6451 Před 25 dny +1

      The plague carrier facet still feels gimmicky. I spam veno support and never picked that facet in my ranked games nor do I encounter other veno players that pick that facet. Patient zero facet is still by far the better value of the 2 facets. It's effectively a Scepter level updrage on veno's ult but free.

  • @mattlars89
    @mattlars89 Před 26 dny +4

    Slark only got buffed dude :) His regen is quite spectacular the lvl 1 Barracuda regen ticking at 12 per second is massive for laning. Eat harrass weave to trees for like 10-15 sec back to cs.

    • @ganaelschneider
      @ganaelschneider Před 26 dny +2

      yeah never been this good imo

    • @lazylonewolf
      @lazylonewolf Před 26 dny

      Slark has a slightly better permanent Tango heal at the start, love it.
      Also happy DK got nerfed. Slark is supposed to counter him, but with Dragon Blood now an innate + new passive, he hits way too hard at the start while getting obnoxious amounts of armor/regen for free.

  • @notyouraverageguy2265
    @notyouraverageguy2265 Před 26 dny

    i played spectre against a support phoenix before this patch. I won that game but laning against phoenix was hell impossible.

  • @MrTurkan26
    @MrTurkan26 Před 26 dny +1

    Is Safe Lane carry Beastmaster now viable?
    he's less of a zoo than ever so builds emphasising buffing zoo aren't 'as' essential
    with first facet you have:
    1. great attack speed
    2. universal hero so great damage gain through stat items
    3. wild axe for clearing waves and farming fast
    4. aghs for heal and DoT and goes well with high attack speed
    5. ulti is a great solo pick off yet defensive survivability spell if required
    6. tanky with stat gain
    7. boar and hawk an anti-initiation asset to help get away
    so he can somewhat flash farm, has high damage and attack speed, team fight, scales well, survivable, split pusher, kill threat...
    I feel like I'm missing something as to why he's not viable. Can anyone help?

    • @frogwhisperer4268
      @frogwhisperer4268 Před 26 dny +1

      I have a video of beastmaster carry 1 yr ago in 6k mmr. Its not unplayable but melee with no defensive mechanism nor mobility means he gets kited hard. Hes actually pretty ok against melee heroes. Also he is not tanky, he has approximately same hp as alchemist with 1 less armor.

    • @kckillakrack9714
      @kckillakrack9714 Před 26 dny +1

      ​@@frogwhisperer4268I'm 9k and have always played beast master. You gotta get bkb if not you need blink and just wait for someone else to engage. If you are the initiator and tank on him you need shard aghs bkb or it's just gonna go very bad

    • @MrTurkan26
      @MrTurkan26 Před 26 dny

      thanks both! makes sense.

  • @macaquenhas
    @macaquenhas Před 26 dny

    I like the new Earth Spirit facet, had a lot of fun playing him

    • @rikoaya2741
      @rikoaya2741 Před 26 dny

      It's basically the same as before

  • @Shotgunz999
    @Shotgunz999 Před 26 dny

    they still havent fixed clinkz' multishot talent to work on archers like before...

  • @pascaldenize7546
    @pascaldenize7546 Před 26 dny

    Is the illusions facet on TB worth it. The sunder one seems almost like you have to pick it?

    • @mrlabeouf9002
      @mrlabeouf9002 Před 26 dny

      Definitely not, you dont regen at all so losing 15% hp everytime you press W just fucks you up and u cant join fights

  • @pawelrogowski4193
    @pawelrogowski4193 Před 26 dny

    Spectre undying combo on lane is going to be insane!

  • @shazwimalik6087
    @shazwimalik6087 Před 25 dny

    soul fragement tb is bad, unless u wanna hurt urself and invi and sunder ur enemy then dagon, which i think the other facet can do too and better
    i use sandking sandshroud more then the sandstorm, but i usually build with upgraded eul, dagon, sange and kaya
    never played zeus with manta before, so i dont see it as a nerf that much, i know a lot of people using it, but i somehow cant play him with manta no matter how many time i try.
    time zone is great if u have team that jump in with you, if not, its a waste of ability.
    flayer hook is good, but not so when the pudge on ur team keep waiting on his hook and just blink out if fail, which happen alot of the time and ruined the game later on.

  • @posmentatt
    @posmentatt Před 26 dny +1

    ive been playing mirana pos 1/2 and been rinsing teams, have 80% winrate. solar flare is crazy strong and leap with shard does huge burst dmg

    • @mrlabeouf9002
      @mrlabeouf9002 Před 26 dny

      What is your skill and item build? I definitely would like to try that out

    • @malikjelal5832
      @malikjelal5832 Před 26 dny +1

      ​@mrlabeouf9002 skill build can go 1 point into arrow for range creep then max the q then the e . The jump gives atk speed so very helpful. Going maelstrom dragon Lance and can switch it up going manta or SNY and eventually getting an mkb or daedulus and getting the shard. Very good carry that does alot of dmg

    • @tyharris14
      @tyharris14 Před 25 dny

      I played against one last night, seemed extremely weak

    • @malikjelal5832
      @malikjelal5832 Před 21 dnem

      @@tyharris14 i think laning is a problem with mirana need to hit lots of arrows, if she loses lane hard its hard to come back but if she has a mediocre or good lane mirana feels very good

  • @cassiocampos6211
    @cassiocampos6211 Před 22 dny

    GameLeap dude: dont even read it, doesnt matter
    BSJ: study it, matters a lot
    noice

  • @immersionHEHE
    @immersionHEHE Před 26 dny +1

    I have no idea what to play in the offlane anymore 🤔

    • @Chasodey
      @Chasodey Před 26 dny

      Dark Seer. Centaur still fine. DB. A lot of heroes are viable

    • @immersionHEHE
      @immersionHEHE Před 26 dny

      @@Chasodey yeah I'm playing cent and db. Not good at playing dark seer, too much of an utility offlane hero for me. Got any more suggestions?

    • @Chasodey
      @Chasodey Před 26 dny

      @@immersionHEHE carry dark seer ghmf... Well, how about Treant pos 3? It's my own jewel of creativity, 67% winrate over a 100 games. Pudge 3 is still good. OD can stomp hard. Night Stalker, Underlord via portal aspect, Spirit breaker, Enigma, Elder titan, Ogre Magi. Plenty of heroes if you look close enough

  • @matt10315
    @matt10315 Před 26 dny

    Thx

  • @Slaanash
    @Slaanash Před 26 dny +4

    I can't believe what they did to my boy sand king.

  • @nicolasfronville7292
    @nicolasfronville7292 Před 26 dny

    Dont know if you notice Veil of discord can be activate during channels but still cut the animation of centaur stun ^^' plz gaben fix

    • @rikoaya2741
      @rikoaya2741 Před 26 dny +1

      Stun isn't a channel ability

    • @nicolasfronville7292
      @nicolasfronville7292 Před 26 dny

      @@rikoaya2741 so shaman shackle stun is not an ability ... man i know it isnt a true channel ability but there no other character with this quirk

  • @scottbeale1825
    @scottbeale1825 Před 26 dny

    WK didn't get much of a nerf. IT's really just the nerf to his mortal strike cooldown. The other nerfs are to his wraith form, which IMO was just a kind of nice bonus to have in general

  • @mohdasyraafsyahmi3250
    @mohdasyraafsyahmi3250 Před 25 dny

    0:45 BR too

  • @sora306
    @sora306 Před 26 dny +5

    there’s no winners that will be able to join this meta. The old heroes who we were playing in 7.36a are going to be played again, except Jugg Imo, because he’s getting a lot of unnecessary punches tbh

    • @Chasodey
      @Chasodey Před 26 dny +1

      Sand king lost around 15% of winrate, absolutely nothing happened to him 🌝🌝🌝

    • @gamersrevenge6528
      @gamersrevenge6528 Před 26 dny

      jugg still slaps

  • @exoaable
    @exoaable Před 27 dny

    rubick was been doing wonders for me this patch xD

  • @farhanroslan-zv8kn
    @farhanroslan-zv8kn Před 26 dny +1

    This "dota professor" didn't even realize sk was OP until it's nerfed now.

  • @MoreImbaThanYou
    @MoreImbaThanYou Před 26 dny +1

    Rip Shaman

  • @salad3955
    @salad3955 Před 26 dny +1

    martyrs plate is really good a lot of people sleeping on that shit
    free pipe

  • @Nicole_whatsgood
    @Nicole_whatsgood Před 26 dny

    Thanks bsj

  • @l.l.691
    @l.l.691 Před 26 dny

    Is it just me or the forced movement changes are a big nerf for stoked facet batrider?

  • @nvshinies664
    @nvshinies664 Před 26 dny

    I feel like fv is a support now

  • @YullishPelor
    @YullishPelor Před 26 dny

    They've got to stop buffing my natures treant.

  • @BjornHegstad
    @BjornHegstad Před 26 dny +13

    To summarize the last few patches:
    - Zeus illusions nerfed
    - TB illusions nerfed
    - DK illusions nerfed
    - Arc Warden clone nerfed
    - Luna glaives dmg nerfed
    The point is: Valve doesn't want you to hide in the jungle while your illusions push out waves and kills towers. Why? Presumably because it's unfun to play against.
    Now, don't remind them that Naga exists.

    • @xscythe5376
      @xscythe5376 Před 26 dny +2

      Well that's what naga siren is designed for tho, to literally stand behind her illusions while she fights or farms

    • @firebush1343
      @firebush1343 Před 26 dny +1

      Looks at CK......

    • @Dergottdeskrieges
      @Dergottdeskrieges Před 26 dny

      what is this i'm reading rofl

    • @conceptAIart
      @conceptAIart Před 26 dny

      It's a skill issue, same reason people don't play RTS. Too many units to manage for small brains.

    • @AzarakiDragon
      @AzarakiDragon Před 26 dny +1

      @@conceptAIart That's absolutely not it. Farming lanes with illusions is really simple. The problem is that made illusion heroes TOO easy. You get so much map control without ever revealing your hero, letting you stay safe while farming at very little risk. Like how is using manta as DK and A-clicking towers hard in any way?

  • @peaceofmind5819
    @peaceofmind5819 Před 26 dny

    SandKing is now an area control/denial. Wall of sand.

  • @Kalron9
    @Kalron9 Před 17 dny

    TB losing his ability to split push makes ms really sad. That was like his whole thing I thought. Oh well.

  • @salvadordilluvio382
    @salvadordilluvio382 Před 24 dny

    Slarks seems pretty broken

  • @mavor101
    @mavor101 Před 26 dny

    Wish they would stop slamming phantom assassin into the trash heap. Just because heralds spam pick her doesn't mean valve should be constantly nerfing her. :/

  • @lukeskywalker6641
    @lukeskywalker6641 Před 26 dny

    I learned how to be the cool guy from BSJ 😎

  • @cljosegfer
    @cljosegfer Před 27 dny

    tinker is cooking

  • @vbnv-oz8bj
    @vbnv-oz8bj Před 26 dny

    Nice thumbnail

  • @KKKuma
    @KKKuma Před 26 dny +2

    I don't know why they nerf DK. It is the red facet that they need to buff. It feel so bad because it is just worse cleave of any other character. Instead of buffing it for more usage, they nerf the other 2 facets even though they are not particularly broken and DK late game is probably weaker than before 7.36.
    I am not sure if jug nerf is big enough though. And slark buff may be too much, 50 cd at lvl 1 is so fast.
    Zeus nerf was well deserved. He was too good

    • @SilverHand-fu1jn
      @SilverHand-fu1jn Před 26 dny

      Slark buff is goingto be wild in 2k-5k bracket. It was already good in this bracket. And counter the current tank unkillable hero meta

  • @Ricapica.
    @Ricapica. Před 26 dny

    The way you described Terrorblade with blink and abyssal and ur illusions dealing 87% of the damage made it sound like a poor man's CK. All these requirements to do what CK naturally does, and better! I guess tb would still farm a bit faster? but idk if worth it. Maybe if CK is banned

    • @mrlabeouf9002
      @mrlabeouf9002 Před 26 dny

      Its shit. You are just a squishier version of CK. The other faceit is definitely the way to go

  • @peterkirk8510
    @peterkirk8510 Před 25 dny

    Insane over nerfing of SK, nerf the facet, the talents, the innate, the ability, the aghs, and the first 3 items he bought every game lol

  • @icata12345
    @icata12345 Před 25 dny

    after two patch of massive buffs tinker still cant reach 50% winrate xD

  • @user-funnymadp
    @user-funnymadp Před 26 dny

    faceless void's time zone is still bad, it's always better to make ur enemies cant do anything

    • @Chasodey
      @Chasodey Před 26 dny

      Time(cum) zome is a very good teamfight skill for more of a support void. With a couple of melee or low ranged cored it can do wonders in a fight

  • @vitaliyred622
    @vitaliyred622 Před 26 dny +1

    To be fair Shadow Shaman is still disgusting and annoying as hell. Slardar is still great but first skill is no longer busted.

    • @DUKEHadToDoItToEm
      @DUKEHadToDoItToEm Před 26 dny +3

      He's the only support I can think of that has consistently dominated every meta for like 3 years now. Also my most played and highest WR support right now

    • @theozuretti6091
      @theozuretti6091 Před 26 dny +1

      ​@@DUKEHadToDoItToEmwdym ? He was ignored at TI 2023

    • @DUKEHadToDoItToEm
      @DUKEHadToDoItToEm Před 26 dny +3

      @@theozuretti6091 valid point to be fair if true, but I like most players do not play at the international I play solo queue games, and in pubs he's not been any less than "very good and viable" for years now

    • @theozuretti6091
      @theozuretti6091 Před 26 dny +2

      @@DUKEHadToDoItToEm you're right, he is always going to be a strong pick in solo q pubs due to his strong disables, now he's even nore busted with the ally saves

  • @TruePower44
    @TruePower44 Před 26 dny

    very happy with the SK nerf absolutely hated to play against that shit pretty much every game.

  • @gamersrevenge6528
    @gamersrevenge6528 Před 26 dny

    you read spec facet wrong lol

  • @miso-ge1gz
    @miso-ge1gz Před 25 dny

    WHERE IS THE DAMN DAZZLE NERF AND CHAOS KNIGHT NERF. THese 2 bs heroes have been op since last ti and no nerfs, even buffs

  • @motchness
    @motchness Před 25 dny

    i dont search for dota bsj anymore i search for dota bjs

  • @MrPian0Mann
    @MrPian0Mann Před 26 dny

    ember stonks went up 2%

  • @majkatrojedjece6585
    @majkatrojedjece6585 Před 26 dny

    Dude, why is everyone skiping vision changes? This is HUGE buff to NP, from my perspective he deletes my teamate from existance for few secs, making the fight loom outnumbered and ppl get lost and fall back

    • @AeriDjGk
      @AeriDjGk Před 26 dny

      I had a hard time understanding what those changes meant on the patch notes, can you explain why this is good for NP?

    • @majkatrojedjece6585
      @majkatrojedjece6585 Před 26 dny +3

      @@AeriDjGk I dont understand it from notes also, but in game when he uses sprout on someone you dont see that person anymore, even if you stand close, you dont see it on mini map or heroes bar even on top. It makes you think that person is dead and you need to back.

    • @SarcaZmOn
      @SarcaZmOn Před 26 dny

      explain the vision changes for me please

  • @steffkepn2
    @steffkepn2 Před 26 dny

    Thanks God they nerfed Zeus to the ground, Herald could win Ancient on mid just by pressing Q, he recieved 10 patch buffs, finally someone noticed what kind of shaiSe this hero is in pub.

  • @charlesnewborn3760
    @charlesnewborn3760 Před 26 dny +13

    Omfg thank god Valve got rid of the meme zeus carry build. Im sick and tired of these tryhards thinking zeus can carry with Manta. Get that shit out of my games!

    • @amberswilddiaries2831
      @amberswilddiaries2831 Před 26 dny +4

      Atleast in guardian, the only reason zeus can't carry is people like you that start crying the moment you pick zeus carry

    • @charlesnewborn3760
      @charlesnewborn3760 Před 26 dny +2

      @@amberswilddiaries2831 is that English? i cry when I PICK zeus? What the fuck?
      For the record, I don't cry, i play turbo only, and when any zeus tries to meme like this, they lose. But its annoying to play against.

    • @DUKEHadToDoItToEm
      @DUKEHadToDoItToEm Před 26 dny +4

      @@amberswilddiaries2831 in my experience it's the opposite. 1 pipe and 1 bkb and your whole Zeus carry is utterly useless, and people in guardian or above tend to recognize that and build those items pretty quick
      Zeus carry probably worked great in herald though, I don't know personally myself maybe you could tell me?

    • @amberswilddiaries2831
      @amberswilddiaries2831 Před 26 dny

      @@DUKEHadToDoItToEm In mid guardian it worked just fine when no one start to flame during the strategy time. Even if someone buys pipe you deal ton of physical damage with the manta shard.
      For me it everything I wanted from a carry: I could get shard and farm fast. I could take fights really early. Jump + huricane pike + manta makes it nightmare to catch you. You scale well for late game both with physical damage and magical damge.
      I've already been called a clown by my teamates in game i dominated every aspect of the offensive side of the game: most kills, most assits, most damage to building, fewest deaths, highest lh etc.. (even after the gane)

    • @DUKEHadToDoItToEm
      @DUKEHadToDoItToEm Před 26 dny

      @@amberswilddiaries2831 I've never seen a Zeus carry do a respectable amount of physical damage in a losing game or come anywhere close to being top of tower damage in a winning game
      You're right about him being slightly difficult to lock down but otherwise it's just bad, just another Manta-spell interaction gimmick like Batrider's short lived manta meta
      It shocked me that it took this long for them to remove it tbh

  • @parkerl7397
    @parkerl7397 Před 26 dny

    How tf u not guna talk about crimson guard more

  • @enso8762
    @enso8762 Před 26 dny +3

    The meepo poof nerf is so stupid, it's basically back to what it was before lmao...

    • @ninoobejero614
      @ninoobejero614 Před 26 dny

      not just the poof, there is the worst 85% stats. shitty patch for meepo players

    • @vitalikpu
      @vitalikpu Před 26 dny +3

      ​@@ninoobejero614 thank god

    • @enso8762
      @enso8762 Před 26 dny +1

      @@ninoobejero614 the poof nerf is huge, it forces you to get the poof damage talent to one shot the creeps... it slows down meepo's farm a lot in the early game... which is what his main advantage comes from. the stat nerf just makes this worse because he has less mana... also, survivability isn't that big of a problem because he has megameepo and dig.

  • @nathanhoney4639
    @nathanhoney4639 Před 26 dny

    Please upload your TB games. -Me Nafen

  • @streetguru9350
    @streetguru9350 Před 27 dny

    Holy shit I can play dota again!

  • @cassiocampos6211
    @cassiocampos6211 Před 22 dny

    the zeus manta build already sucked

  • @Elldar111
    @Elldar111 Před 26 dny

    Slark with 30 sec ult is crazy, as Slark is my favorite hero I'm glad to finally see some huge buffs to him after 4 patches in a row nerfing his Pounce range

  • @arthasbk
    @arthasbk Před 26 dny

    they killed zeus... they could nerf whoel skills but keep the manta :(

    • @KapsLocke
      @KapsLocke Před 26 dny

      Might have been an overkill but I'm happy anyway, feels like there's a Zeus in half of my games

  • @dimbisyllas
    @dimbisyllas Před 26 dny

    Tired of nerfing SK! Every patch nerf nerf nerf. Thx god they Buff 2 times straight DP

  • @appsenence9244
    @appsenence9244 Před 26 dny +1

    bsj bro why your face looks like slark

  • @horizon5873
    @horizon5873 Před 26 dny

    I only play Dota since few but Im SHOCKED by the balance system. Zeus was so obviously broken and maybe the best hero for MONTHS without them doing anything, and now that the big patch finally hurt him a bit and give them way to balance him they come w the guillotine and straight kill him

  • @AzimsLives
    @AzimsLives Před 26 dny

    sand king still broken

    • @immersionHEHE
      @immersionHEHE Před 26 dny

      what facet are you running? the aghs seems to procc so rarely aswell. sk was my best hero before this facet patch

    • @AzimsLives
      @AzimsLives Před 26 dny

      ​@@immersionHEHE left facet. what's broken about sandking is that Stinger always one shots a creepwave

    • @Chasodey
      @Chasodey Před 26 dny

      ​@@AzimsLivesWell, how you would explain 42% winrate then if hero is "still broken"?

    • @AzimsLives
      @AzimsLives Před 26 dny

      @@Chasodey 42% in herald for sure mate. check immortal winrate before saying nonsense

    • @Chasodey
      @Chasodey Před 26 dny

      @@AzimsLives Sank king always was a herald stomper. If it can't even stomp in heralds rn, where it can stomp? How you're gonna stomp with 300 radius sand storm? It's the smallest storm ever. I can easily say that Jugg for example will remain a fine hero even after nerfs but Sand king with Dust devil is killed. Just two days ago he had 57% winrate, now 42. I think it should say something to a person with a brain

  • @eppiox
    @eppiox Před 26 dny

    1:46 This bit reminded me too much of Pinky and the Brain.

  • @AzarakiDragon
    @AzarakiDragon Před 26 dny

    Yo BSJ, try out or at least keep an eye on core Clockwerk. I'm a midlaner and I last-pick it when I see that the enemy team is representing a lot of physical damage. His lane is a little rough if he's against a ranged hero but he just has so much going for him mid/late now, and you can honestly mitigate the lane a bit with cogs, springing them when the enemy steps up and yeeting two more cogs at them by the time the ability ends, you can keep them away from a ranged creep while taking out 1/4th of their mana pool with one cast. Battery Assault deals double damage to creeps; still not as good as having a spammable AoE for farming, but it helps a lot. Turning armor into an all-outgoing-damage amp is nuts against physical lineups and you can just thunderdome solokill anyone once you have an armor item + aghs
    Everyone's sleeping on the ally-hookshot facet too, core or support, for purposely hitting allies with it (I thought this even before it got a barrier, but it's even better now). If you have one person on your team with a blink, it becomes a 300-radius (which to put in perpective, is Sand King's lvl 1 sandstorm now lmao) bkb-piercing stun that goes on a SEVEN SECOND cooldown and now gives your initiator a barrier too

  • @crisp5509
    @crisp5509 Před 27 dny

    W vid

  • @justrob1453
    @justrob1453 Před 26 dny

    Slark's ult is OP, if you add Octarine, it goes down to around 22.5 seconds, at lvl 25 you can get the +1 Shadow dance duration which makes it a 5.5. duration, so basically the downtime of Shadow dance is only 17 secs haha

  • @JustJybe
    @JustJybe Před 27 dny +1

    don't want to give it away but...

  • @12Rsagna
    @12Rsagna Před 26 dny

    I hate sand king and zeus

  • @ff2090
    @ff2090 Před 26 dny

    As a support player, this is frustrating. They've nerfed Axe, LC, Centaur, and even Slardar, all key initiators. With Blink, we could make plays and control the tempo. In my recent games, I had Mirana, DP, BS and Queen as offlaners, making it too easy for enemies to kill me due to the lack of initiators and players just farmning. Thanks, Valve.

  • @conceptAIart
    @conceptAIart Před 26 dny +1

    Here's the thing, as a veteran player I'm gonna come in at the very end of patches when all the casuals leave and the dust settles, since noobs and casuals tend to flock in at the start of big patches then leave as they realise they still suck, this patch was just a hot mess. Fun, amazing, but definitely created with the new and casual players in mind, who care not for balance or strategy. I like my competive DotA games to be balanced, skill based and this patch had so many broken things that it simply didn't make sense to invest so much time to find out, 2 weeks later, the reworked the entire hero. What a joke.

    • @travisdeppe9172
      @travisdeppe9172 Před 26 dny +1

      casuals don't think they don't suck. They don't stop playing because you think they are just realizing they suck. They just play dota and other games casually. I can't believe you can't figure that out on your own.

  • @tinkudalal8792
    @tinkudalal8792 Před 27 dny

    1

  • @ErteiAblaou
    @ErteiAblaou Před 26 dny

    commmmmmeeeeeeeeeent!!! lets goooooo

  • @Forward2US
    @Forward2US Před 26 dny

    Ok nice time to nerf cm

  • @chiefarmel1393
    @chiefarmel1393 Před 27 dny +1

    first

  • @Cairn_August
    @Cairn_August Před 24 dny

    naarf

  • @user-ou8ki4rj4l
    @user-ou8ki4rj4l Před 26 dny

    IO was given the shittiest innate ability in the game and the facets aren't even good IO will never be a good hero

  • @KING_NIMROD
    @KING_NIMROD Před 26 dny

    "Huge nerfs in new patch! what now?" play a new game thats less bipolar lol

  • @DUKEHadToDoItToEm
    @DUKEHadToDoItToEm Před 26 dny

    So DK is no longer meta, Zeus will never be playable again, and bad facets like melee Veng and self damage magic amp QoP are still so bad theyre memeworthy
    Thanks Gaben 🥲