The Reason Pat McAfee Won't Watch Johnny Manziel's Documentary On Netflix
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Listening to Johnny’s dad you realize where the problem was. It was always someone else’s fault when his son got in trouble smh
The fact that his parents even considered covering for him by lying about being in the hospital so he didn’t get drug tested at the combine is insane to me. Talk about enabling.
@@jvmlucky13 it can be looked at that way or it could be parents doing whatever they can to try and save their sons career before he completely self destructs. Either way his parents def seemed to be a real problem for him. His dad even said when i sent him to college they are supposed to turn him into a good man not just a player. Like no sir, you as a father should be the one to teach him to be a man and the coaching staff and school is there to give him an opportunity to suceed and help him along with you.
@@jvmlucky13 Give me a break, millions of dollars were on the line.
Growing up in a small town and being released like that into the linelight is a recipe for disaster. A kid needs time to grow out of the partying faze
@@jvmlucky13 enabling or not, he got so,e real ass parents that know that their son is about to be rich and this could ruin it so they covered for him. Mine would do the same and if you wouldn’t for your kid than you shouldn’t have any. I’m not saying it’s ok or cool, and also his parents after that should have ,are sure he got the help he needed but yeah, I’d cover for my ki to if he was about to be in the nfl. Hell, I’ll help the, hide the body if I got to lol
Pac-Man explaining how easy it was to pick off Johnny is hilarious lmao
😂😂😂
Browns players have said that they knew they had no chance in that game because of Johnny's lack of preparation.
He’s to real lmao
That silence after he said “so easy” 😂
Got quite asf after too 🤣🤣
He was never accountable for his actions by his parents or coaches
Because he was successful. It’s hard to discipline under those circumstances. That’s why it’s impressive when greats like Brady still look for accountability and discipline
Then he'd make a great president, or vice president, because this gang makes Nixon look like a canonized saint
@@PastorTrue93hundreds and hundreds of players are just as successful. No excuse. Its probably the parents and the money
Thank you! Still shows zero accountability
@@paul4253Hundreds of people won a hesiman their freshman year and beat bama?
Pats take was basically my take after watching it. I was like "was I supposed to feel bad for him because he's still arrogant as hell and so unreformed as a personality"
It’s insane how many people I have seen comment that they have “so much more respect for him” and that’s he’s “so humble” no wonder it’s so easy to dupe people lol
He was an alcoholic who was enabled by his coaches. Dude was 18-19 years old and Kliff admitted he didn’t care that Johnny had issues
That’s exactly what I got from it😂 when they said he watched zero film and then it pans to him today holding up zeros.. I’m like “hes proud of that” I don’t feel sorry for him!!!
@@JvstinCharles Like at least jamarcus tried to lie
@@reed785MI absolutely have more respect for him. I’m not sure how anyone could watch it and say he’s humble??? I remember him in the nfl just washed out. You out 100 college freshman winning the heisman and beating Alabama at Alabama, on A&M??? That will mess any young kid up. There’s substance issues guy was haunted by the demons that whole ride and him created.
The never talking to his childhood friend again even today is super sad to me
You could tell his friend still cared for him to this day
@@Booski-zj9ew for real… sucks man
That was the only person I felt so bad for
His friend seemed mad he couldn't make money off him tbh. It was just business at the end of the day, he needed to appear professional for teams to even consider him.
I never understood why their still not talking
Having grown up with him playing at my HS and going to that school we all kept tabs on him and would hear the gossip around town of his bad behaviors. And when he made it the nfl and got himself kicked out none of us were that surprised sadly. He was a hell of a football player but as Pat said, took an opportunity of a lifetime for granted.
I respectfully disagree, he was a hell of an athlete, not a football player.
@@scottthompson3493 no he was definitely one hell of a football player. He had amazing instincts and playmaking ability. There have been many superior athletes at the qb position who will never sniff his college production.
@@alang8243 yeah Johnny was that guy. Could of been a great player in the league too… given he took it serious and cleaned his act up. You can coach up a lot of what Johnnys flaws were as a player, but you can’t coach a lot of what made Johnny good.
@@scottthompson3493I mean he was a hell of a player, just never worked out in NFL but most college athletes don’t
He was a waste of oxygen
The common theme that became clear throughout the doc is that Manziel didn’t really love football that much. He enjoyed making highlight plays, being the star, and the opportunities that football provided to fuel his interests. Once he reached the NFL he understood quickly that he didn’t have the desire to put in the work it would take to reach those highs. If given a chance to do it all over, I genuinely don’t think he would do things all that differently. His unhappiness seems to stem from being unable to come to grips with being viewed as a failure rather than because he regrets squandering his chances to be in the nfl.
Best untold documentary is still Manti Teos. That one was mind blowing. Really makes you appreciate Manti Teo, and understand what he went through
I just watched that yesterday it was so insightful
Yeah no doubt, I came away really feeling for the guy. Talk about an opposite personality of Manziel.
Mansfield definitely deserved multiple episodes! Manti Teo is a dumb ass I don’t feel bad for that man one bit.
I watched about five minutes of it then threw in the towel. Just not interested.
@@Madmun357your loss
What’s wild to me is how many people on social media are trying to make it seem badass that he didn’t watch a single second of film in college
I mean look, it’s fits the persona of him, but then again:
It fitting the persona makes it even more annoying.
I know that tells me he wasn't serious about winning. He didn't give a f
Winning the Heisman and playing your way into being a 1st round pick without even trying is impressive. It’s no secret how hard it is to even make it to the league. The process is trash but the results can’t be denied. You cannot achieve long term sustained success doing what he did but he accomplished more in his early 20s than a lot of athletes have.
To never watch film an win a heisman is insane
@@noahpassmore6452and impressive
I feel like his documentary is both a message to parents and kids. As parents, you need to hold your kid accountable and not blame other people, which his dad clearly did all the time. As a child, it shows you have to realize when you're in the wrong, admit it, and start making changes to yourself. No amount of talent in the world will correct your mistakes if you keep making them
He's still the same guy he was 10 years ago, he hasn't changed a bit but some people don't change and never will. He never had a chance at succeeding in the NFL and was always going to self destruct. It broke my heart when he said in the doc after he got cut he was gonna blow all his money and then off himself, no human should ever feel like that, thankfully he is still here. I hope he can find purpose somewhere in life, but the doc sure didn't make it sound like that is likely.
as of a year ago he was talking on bussin about how happy he is now, he runs a "party accessories" business with his friend Mike Stud. He said he had been sober for a few years and was working hard on finding ways to enjoy life.
So he panicked after he blew up his own gravy train and finally had to face consequences.
Tough. He doesn’t deserve the attention he’s getting now.
@@aa134368 Naw. Dude was raised believing his only value was his football skills. His family loved him on the condition he was good at football, and when he was 19 no matter where he went in the country everyone knew him and wanted to talk to him, and take photos...because of football.
He was suicidal because he didn't enjoy football anymore, but believed if he stopped everyone would abandon him. This lead to his drinking and drugs, which lead to legal trouble.
Dude was a child who just wanted someone in his life who loved him for him not what he did on the football field. It's really heart breaking when he talks about his dad disowning him when he tried to go to rehab because "you're going to blow our shot at being in the NFL". Dude didn't know what it was like to be loved for being him until he got out of the league.
@@aa134368This is so silly. What do you mean he doesn’t deserve it? He’s one of the most notorious college athletes of all time. He’s an entertaining guy with a perspective that’s incredibly unique. He got what he deserved, an unsuccessful professional career. But he paved his own path and there were benefits that came with it. I just don’t understand this idea that I should be angry that he didn’t fulfill his full potential. It’s sad and unfortunate but this isn’t some parallel universe where Johnny talents can just be transferred into someone else. Was he extremely short-sided yeah but why hate on someone that really isn’t causing anyone trouble
@@jacetiller3156hes not an entertaining person he only was entertaining when he was playing college football theres a difference.
johnny is the classic tale of talent w/o discipline. no judgement - just is what it is
Zero fucks given
Just having a beer and smoking a little was probably a lot more relaxed than what he used to do.
I can’t imagine the Browns went to his college coaches and were like “how’s he in the film room” and didn’t pick up on the fact that he does zero studying. Idiots.
Wouldn't have expected anything less from the Browns.
Same Brown's gm.who stated wide receivers were not important in his plans..who took Johnny Manziel and Justin Gilbert in 1 st round..Justin Gilbert was predicted to go low 6 th round
I do not feel bad for Johhny at all. As a junior at Texas A&M I can confirm he has not changed at all. The amount of weekends I see him bar hopping in CSTAT is sad. First time it was awesome but the quite litteraly 100th times I see it is just sad. Dude is 30 and spends every weekend here bar hopping, bro's got to grow up.
That’s sad
Lol what else does he have to do? His dad is a multi millionair and he also has made his own bread. Your just what we call a hater. I mean why are YOU around the bars all the time when you clearly should be studying still.. maybe you need to look in the mirror some kid
@@Utahtruckguy its pathetic
I just turned 27 and started going bar hopping 😂😂😭 never done it in my life
Kinda expensive
Johnny is the college version of the guy who peaked in HS and lives at that local town bar telling everyone about it.
What I took from it once he got out of college he felt like he already had everything. Like it says in the Doc he started self sabotaging because he wanted to get away from it all. Basically you can have everything and still fill empty inside. I think we’ve seen this in countless celebrity stories. As an average person we will never understand
Yeah sounds like he couldnt handle the fame. Especially how his Freshman year the only thing keeping him good was his coach not letting him have media time because he was a freshman. Once he was allowed on camera it got to his head
🎯 success is measured differently by everyone, to Johnny, Being a football player is not what he truly cared about in life, it just happened to be a talent that he had.
Self sabotage is common in most people's lives, we just don't have thousands of people watching what we do. That said, watch some damn film smh.
Everybody on point in this comment thread 💯🎯🔥
Yeah I’m older than he was his last year in college. I could never imagine that. He never had room to think. Plus he already had that reputation so any and every single mistake he made was amplified. Seemed to me like he thought “they’re gonna think I’m an ass no matter what. So fine. If I can’t win, I’ll just keep being the person they paint me as”
They didn’t even talk about his failed career as a CFL quarterback after the NFL.. He completely failed there for the same reasons.. He didn’t learn nothing n that’s why he gets zero sympathy
Yea I was wondering why they didn't talk about his failed stints in the other football leagues
I thought the document was intriguing and disheartning. Seeing someone with such immense talent just toss it all away is quite gut-wrenching. Before this film, I'd heard of Manziel, but didn't really know his story. The documentary does an excellent job of painting a picture of some of his life and career. It's eye-opening, to say the least.
AJ made a great point early.... when he started playing at A&M, especially after upsetting the Tide, those games became big time must watch games..... he was a character.... he was larger than life... he was the epitome of the Texas high school football rockstar.... he was Lance Harbor from "Varsity Blues"....he had it all...."the look", the personality, the skills.... he was Johnny frigging Football!!!!
He's obviously never going to escape that label of "bust" that he's rightrully earned at the professionally level. But, it would be nice if we could remember those 2 years at A&M, and the atmosphere and buzz and hype about the kid who became a Texas legend.
Also, something not to be forgotten is that he was the first collegiate player to openly square off with the NCAA about making money off his personal image. And while he ultimately paid the price with a suspension, his defiance was the momentum that was needed for athletes to cash in on NIL deals. It took less than a decade.
I kind of think it’s a good story to be told. The media threw this kid in the fire, had no accountability from his coaches or home, had poor mental health. He’s an example of what can happen
Oh please, he's a spoiled rich kid who never took anything seriously, you dope
Poor little nepo baby
If there’s one thing this documentary taught me, it’s that the dude is still very arrogant despite everything that’s happened.
Did the media throw him to the fire or did he do it himself? I remember seeing his own personal social media when he was at A&M and dang near predicted his exact future. The only difference was that NFL executives were dumb enough to take him in the first round. I thought for sure his life outside football was going to hurt his draft stock.
ESPECIALLY his coaches. His college coaches would never dream of telling him to chill and punishing him, and even in the NFL his coaches never told him to change. It’s crazy
Connor’s mullet is fuckin intense
Definitely giving Billy Ray Cyrus' a run for its money.
He came off as EXTREMELY arrogant in this documentary. I’m 45 minutes in and he STILL hasn’t stopped patting himself on the back about his highschool and college years.
Dude was living out his life as the Denzel’s Flight movie character lol.
The documentary was kinda poor in my opinion because it was just all surface stuff and glossed over the mental aspect which really did him a disservice. Some people will come away thinking the wrong thing. It really needed to be split into two episodes, college and the NFL. If you want to get what I mean, the comments from his sister at the end were quite dark, but there was nothing that was elaborated on the way it should have been.
Is an hour 1/2 Doc. What do you expect lol.
@@xArtoriasTheAbysswalker dunno what you watched, but the one I watched was about an hour ten
He's a spoiled rich kid,entitled...he deserves no sympathy, better people out there in the world who struggle need more attention
@@sccroobyj4024 It’s 1 hour 12 min which just supports what I said even more lol. Can only fit so much in that time frame.
I wouldn't wanna watch myself being a bum and losing out on millions
Half of, maybe three quarters of, Johnny Manzels college football success can be attributed to Mike Evans.
Like most qbs
Aka a majority of Alabama QBs in the 2010s. Most of them hid behind one stud receiver and a bell cow back that would get 30+ carries a game.
@@zachwilson7084 you sound bitter
😂 Mike Evans was and is that dude
@@fullmetal_neet2288 nope, just a statement of the facts 😂
I’m kinda with Pat. Watching someone with the opportunities Johnny had just completely self destruct is just sad. Seems like he’s in a little better place now and I certainly hope that’s the case.
The ESPN article on him from 10 years ago when he was still at A&M showed he hated being famous and self medicated to help himself. Not surprised how it ended.
This guy does not hate being famous. If he did he wouldn’t have done this stupid documentary.
@@theslickrips5904exactly. Dude is a pathetic attention seeker.
Correction: He LOVES being famous and admired, but he’s too weak and mentally unstable to handle criticism (valid or not). He’s probably developed some sort of narcissistic personality disorder growing up with a family that reinforced his bad behaviors.
Manziel was also diagnosed with bi-polar disorder - so who knows how much of that really played into his constant cycle of self destruction
Agreed. Had no idea he'd attempted suicide either.
Time will tell if he's sincere about turning over a new leaf or not, but I'd like to think Manziel has brighter days ahead.
Well Johnny's dad owns oil fields or at least that was the story. I know plenty of people with bipolar disorder manning Jack hammers., or cutting trees for a living, his dad can make him the lead man in the field.
@@herbtapp3031 watch the doc that was a made up story buddy
@@herbtapp3031I don’t think he was diagnosed with it until his actual spiral happened later on. Idk how the disease works cause I nor anyone I know has it but I think he was fine until his head started spinning with his new personality he was forming.
@@herbtapp3031it's in the doc they made up the oil money rumors so the media/ncaa would stop questioning how he could afford to sit front row at events etc (autograph $$$)
1:22 Pac-man looked like the WR 😂😂😂
The part where they “came up with the family having money” brother I’m from their home town that family is insanely wealthy
Johnny Manziel is a good example of having all the gifts physically but having no mental strength, he had potential to really be the next big thing.
I'm surprised Kliff Kingsbury did the doc. He didn't come across good at all
Not at all bro😂 Imma cardinals fan and after watching that i was like how tf did this dude ever get an nfl head coaching job
Johnny Football was lightning in a bottle it was fun reliving his two years at A&M...I thought it was a great doc that was raw and real, the way you want docs to be!
AS A LIFELONG BROWNS FAN IT WAS HARD TO WATCH AND RELIVE.
"Ah geeze, Pac"😂
I don’t think Manziel did this documentary to get people to feel empathy for him, or even convince people he’s changed for the better. I think he simply wanted to show how easy it is for young kids to get way in over their heads like it happened with him. It also showed that there wasn’t just one reason for why Johnny Football failed - the substance abuse, status/fame addiction, poor parenting, loss of love for the game, etc. It wasn’t just one answer like people tried to make it out to be.
He just wanted attention and money. Let’s be real. Nothing he said was new to anyone
He did because he's narcissistic 1diot
He made this purely for money and himself. *3/4ths* of the entire documentary is spent letting Johnny and his buddies verbally pat each other on the back about how cool they were in highschool and college.
He did it because it is about Johnny, and Johnny loves himself some Johnny.
The other thing is he had the NCAA breathing down his neck so he had to go pro. Not ready for pro. Should have stayed for 4 years.
Just because you have the the talent doesn't mean you can handle the fish bowl. He couldn't and no one stepped up to help him. The best part of the documentary is the message that not having NIL in NCAA sports is more corrupting than having it. If the people paying the athletes expect them to go to practice they would hold them accountable and they wouldn't spiral out of control so easily. That might not have helped Manziel but his story makes the point pretty well.
plenty of people tried to help him. his coaches and teammates. he didn't want help which was the problem.
From reading articles from back when he was in college, I got the impression his parents were more about being Johnny Football's parents than Johnny Manzels. They enjoyed the fame that came with it.
I highly recommend this documentary if you wanna learn from the mistakes of other people. Listening to him during the last part of the film sounded like some 60 year old imparting the lessons he learned from his life experiences. Guy is just 30.
He was just a frat boy who could play college football. It was a good watch.
Pat's betrayel hurts more than JM documentary
Manziel in his prime carried TMZ
Not as much as Charlie sheen and tiger blood outburst.
Imagine hating Manti Teo until you saw his doc, and then loving Manziel until you saw his doc
Willfully ignoring reality because you want to like someone is weirdo behavior
Reality tv is real dude
It’s not that serious dude 😂
Not reliving someone's biggest mistakes because you want to like someone isn't
Seriously lol
He’s a sellout
i was a senior in high school when he was at A&M so i remember everything. it was cool to relive the hype of everything but outside of that it was just watching a privileged kid piss away the opportunity of a lifetime. it was sad that him and his best friend haven’t spoken to each other but it’s also telling. because like the end of the doc there’s no resolution. much like everything in his life it just is what it is🤷🏽♀️
Haven’t seen it, nor am I Johnny fan, but man we’re those A&M times truly special.
I hope Johnny can be at peace and live a good life
The footage of him getting inducted into the A&M HOF was excruciating. I loved the doc. Made me sad at the end, but the story had to be told. I hope Johnny finds his purpose.
I got that feeling right away when he was on the show that he was still partying. When you have such a bad issue that it costs you a dream job of nfl qb and generational wealth, you likely aren’t ever going to drink casually. If he’s happier now, good for him but it sounds worrisome.
he already had generation wealth lmao look into his family. he’s set for life with or without the nfl.
@@lebumjames1373that was a lie they came up with to beat the ncaa accusing him of making money from signing footballs
@@yrnx9334lmao that’s definitely not a lie, he’s worth more than he ever would have made In the nfl and that’s a fact. His family is an oil tycoon that’s why he’s not upset he isn’t in the nfl. Hell Netflix alone gave him 50milion! That’s more than most nfl players make in years
What I learned the most is how much college football is a cakewalk compared to the NFL.
It’s not about liking him or feeling bad for him. Johnny had a crazy amount of success, but had no self-restraint or discipline…the devil comes after you in your most vulnerable of times…and Johnny had many ways to escape and keep escaping because of the resources that came with his success…with no understanding how to fight through things. He’d always just been the best guy on the field until he joined the Browns. It’s like the smart kid who didn’t have to study in High School, then gets a rude awakening when they go to college.
Loved him in college. Hated him in the pros.
Jonny was honest and real in the documentary and stated multiple times it was all on him. His fault and him only to blame. When he told the camera he believed his career would have been no different no matter where he got drafted, i couldn't believe the accountability and self awareness he unloaded
Almost too real. Guy came off hella narcissistic talking about himself. Makes you wonder how unchanged he actually is.
Pros are boring anyway
There is nothing in the doc we didn’t know wtf was untold
I live in Scottsdale, you'll see him at the bar every no and then.
PSA: Being a High school football player at that time in San antonio Texas, I can tell you right now, That nobody knew who he was, Tivy high school is filled with terrible opponents., so he really wasn't playing against a lot of great players. He was talented, but not NFL talented. He was def Hyped up....Even before all the rehabs, drinking, and etc..he was terrible In the NFL, some didn't even think he was suppose to be there.
Played at Steele HS.. and saw him torch a defense that 8/11 starters played d-1 and we won state that year… We all definitely knew who he was and I’m talking guys all over the city.
@@blakegardner9451 I am certain you're being dishonest. So tell me the team that he played that had 8/11 d1 players? because I also played the years he played, and nobody in San antonio, Austin, Houston, Dallas, or any city in Deep East Texas knew who he was...Remember he wasn't recruited at all,,, only A&M and D2 and D3 schools wanted him on a full ride.
@@Facts-pp3tr I just told you I played at Steele high school. Played against Johnny 3 years straight. My best friend to this day is Malcolm brown who was the #1 rb in our class and Johnny beat us even with him and Tommy Armstrong at QB who has all of Nebraskas QB records. I graduated same class of ‘11 with Johnny, and we won state beating Denton guyer that same year against JW Walsh (played a lot of good QBs in hs, johnny was the best) and Johnny beat us by himself essentially that same year. 8/11 of our defensive starters went D-1. Our outside linebackers and one defensive end didn’t go play d-1, Everyone else did. If you’d like I can list everyone out. My mom kept old newspaper clippings and Johnny was front page in SA express when all area was announced I just looked at this a year or so ago moving stuff out her house. Where in SA are you from? We all knew who he was and I worked out with guys all over the city with different trainers and everyone knew him. He had offers from multiple d-1 programs, now you’re just being disingenuous. He was committed to Oregon before A&M offered him at QB. A lot of big programs wanted him at safety/wr though like UT.
@@blakegardner9451 Name the 8 D1 players he played against?...because if you went in the top 100..most of the 100 was from different areas...5 star.. Name your 8 D1 players... Malcom brown was on offense,, not defense... The defenses that Manziel played against were trash.......DEFENSE> not offense...I'm Just stating facts...he was not a top tier high school player.. he was only good in yall area...not anywhere else....his recruiting showed that. Hell he even said it in his documentary.... ask yourself this...was Johnny a 5 star player in high school?
@@Facts-pp3tr you said you were a high school player at the time in San Antonio? Now you’re saying only good in “y’all area”? Are you from SA or not, if you’re lying you can just say that too. You’re trying to move the goal post, you don’t have to be in the top 100 to play d-1. Texas has a large pool of athletes, you can’t be from SA playing at this same time if you know nothing about Steele. I haven’t watched the documentary, probably won’t. Johnny was better than Garret Gilbert (played against both in hs) who was ranked a 5 star. He was a dog in hs and had multiple D-1 offers. You lied and said only A&M and D-2? His height, speed, etc. was more what hurt him as a recruit but anybody who saw him play or played against him knew he was really good.
Steele HS Starting Defense below (against Tivy 2010)
DE - Eric Maus Jr (Air Force)
DE - Alex Jenkins Sr (Did not play college football)
DT - Alex Lincoln Sr (North Texas)
DT - Marquis Anderson Sr (Oklahoma and Army all American)
MLB - Ryan Simmons Sr (Oklahoma State and army all American)
OLB - Kevin Tubbs Sr (Kilgore College did not play D-1)
OLB - Ross Leunsmann (Did not play college football)
S - Shane Huhn Sr (UTEP)
S - Erik Huhn So (Texas)
CB - Taurean Anderson Sr (UCA)
CB - Kwame Brown Sr (SFA)
I think Texas A&M will always be remembered for Johnny Football imo
Plenty of athletes have great college careers and just don’t pan out in the pros. Johnny Football was a college phenomenon that will forever be embedded in sports and popular culture. I enjoyed the documentary! I left with the exact same feelings about Johnny as a did before watching it. As a fan, those years in college did more than enough for me to still be a fan of his today. It’s sad that he tried to take his own life at one point and I don’t condone excessive drug use and such but as long as he’s in a better place, I don’t mind the way he lives his life. It’s not about whether or not you feel bad for him, because obviously it was a lot of self sabotage. For me, it’s more about the intriguing story of one of the most iconic (college) athletes of our ALL time.
I agree with you
Iconic college athlete? Lmaooooooooo You people love celebrating and overhyping mediocrity.
What is the difference of how collegefootball plays and nfl
@@Superstarjamar why does it seem like college football tends to be more entertaining?
@@jmgonzales7701in the nfl game nothing is “there” or “available” consistently. A handful of downs per game is a target clearly open unless we’re talking hill/adams level. The only way to succeed is to anticipate and create incredibly small windows that have to be perfectly executed on to work. All that requires immense prep. Difference between players is bigger in college.
Great document
1 of 2 things need to happen:
1-Take his heisman
2-Give Reggie his heisman back
Completely different energy from pat here compared to when Johnny was on the show
It’s a weird watch cause they barely talk about his personal life like I don’t even know what he’s up to now. Just a dude who likes partying more than anything else
Great Doc
Doc was great. Johnny is great. Keep living your life man.
What I gathered out of the whole documentary was Johnny Manziel is still full of himself and he practically got away with millions of dollars off of 1 great season in college.
Yup. EXACYLY.
I mean he won the national championship as a 15th seed against the powerhouse Alabama and Saban. That’s quite a big accomplishment brother
@@jerusareem manziel didn't win a national title bro..
@@jerusareem that wasn't even a bowl game, let alone the national championship.
Thank you pat. You described how I felt watching it perfectly. Glad he’s doing better but bro really just didn’t care and was so great. He just didn’t want it
“Baited um, ball late” 😭
His story is the definition of “Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard.”
It was a tough watch
I said he wouldn’t make it the nfl from jump. But not from how he acted. But the way he played. You can’t run around and just throw the ball up in the nfl.
Unless your Mahomes
A guy from his hometown said that it was totally expected that he would fall flat on his face. The guy said the family he came from is known for being total fu(k ups.....and there was NO WAY he was going to be able to handle being a star.
You either bear your cross and grow from your past or your past will haunt you till end of days.
Not being a football fan, before watching, all I knew were stories of a party boy with insane talent who threw it all away. Watching the doc, I realized dude had serious mental health issues. I think he was born just a couple years too early before widespread awareness and understanding of these issues. Maybe he would've been given the type of support he needed. Either way, sad, I hate seeing gifted ppl waste their talents.
“Mental health” is now a crutch for shitbags. Plenty of ppl have real issues and plenty of ppl make them work, he made it infinitely harder on himself and made it impossible for anyone to possibly care ab “helping” him. He is and was a self entitled queef and to this day just bleeds douche juice
Nah it’s called cocaine dude. It completely derailed my life too.😢
@@yankees29 I hear you, but drug addiction is a mental health problem. Too many ppl just think, "naw, I'll tough it out and just drop the habit cold turkey" and end up not getting the help they need. I hope you're doing well now brother. ♥
Not only that, but he still seems extremely arrogant and largely unchanged in the documentary.
@thoyo got hold yourself accountable for your own decisions at some point. Excuses are simply that. Excuses
The Money Manziel hand sign wasn’t even his thing. Ben Molina started it and of course the media twisted it to mean more than what it actually was.
I started watching it, & a case of sleep hit me. I saw the first 16 mins, then saw the credits at the end as I woke up…
appointment TV is such a great way to say it
I will never feel bad for anyone, that chose to throw it all away. Watching it will just support him even further.
Exactly. Are we suppose to feel bad for him? lol.. Paint him as a victim? lol foh
I mean Manziel doesn’t feel bad and he’s getting paid for this…
Nowhere near as bad as Watson securing a full contract after his antics but a true shame nonetheless
Great doc
What I took from it is he was just looking for the comradery and the friendship. He didn't feel that in the NFL. He just wants to be a chill guy, and he's comfortable with that. Nothing wrong with it. He was ahead of his time about 10 years. He would have made a gazillion dollars.
Y’all want Johnny to break down into tears and apologize to you all?
Johnny Football is the most exciting player in college football history
Which is why Merril Hoge was correct in recommending not drafting his ass and the ret***s that thought that "exciting" meant good were dead wrong.
Everybody with a brain could see he was undersized and immature. And they could also see that running around in college doesn't mean that s*** will work in the NFL where everybody is a top athlete.
I have nothing against Manziel personally since he has matured but the truth is the truth.
I laughed when the Browns drafted him. I thought, "The Browns are doing Browns things."
Those who watched Michael Vick would disagree.
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I think , you are barking up the wrong tree.
They skipped him trying to play CFL and usfl
Why the hell would anybody watch a documentary on Johnny manziel
I thought that was a pretty good doc. I actually enjoyed it more then qb one. Let’s just say it held my attention thru the whole doc. Where as the qb one I just quit watching after 20 mins.
I mean dude was a celebrity at 19/20 years old. No one knows how they would react in his shoes. I loved the doc. And Johnny is a legend
it was a fascinating documentary
I got there was some underlying anxiety or fear of success. He was a total self saboteur.
I think he's doing fine with his Dad's oil money
His friend said it was a hoax.
It wasn’t as much as ppl made to believe and networth is inflated
the documentary goes over how they made that up to cover for Manziel making money while playing in college
“Paul and his wife were bartenders when Johnny was born, and he later built homes in addition to selling cars.” Dallas morning observer”
Was he broke no but he wasn’t rich enough for what they made the world believe. Especially hopping private planes and courtside seats
@@tcoby Glad to hear that since the school was making millions off him.
He absolutely squandered the opportunity of a life time. I Imagine things would have been different if he some semblance of a work ethic. Talented people without self discipline more often than not turn into disappointment.
Two rules of addiction: Don't believe an addict, and don't give him money. This documentary breaks both of those rules.
Im from Cleveland. Nuff said.
I watch the doc and I don’t feel that he did this doc to people to feel sorry for him. He told the story of a 19yo kid that had a level of success that maybe not even movie stars get at that age. And that got to his head, we all know that fame and that status can get to your head and sadly it did for him. But he says that he regrets it. He also says in interviews that he reaches to you young players to tell them about his mistake and to make the same mistakes he did. He was just a kid that had a lot of success and at that time he did not knew how to handle it.
He did it to get money and attention which is what he’s always been about. Sadly his parents spoiled him and he’s never been held accountable.
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His life is now just an example of what NOT to do.
Huh how he is super rich and loving life
What does that Jokic 2:29 picture say? Lol
Why did they not interview anyone who played or coached him at Texas A&M or Cleveland?
Also, I do blame his parents and Texas football culture for inflating his ego to dangerous levels at such a young age
And college football is such a racket
If indeed Manziel has the genetic predisposition for alcolholism and addiction he won't suceed at being a "little sober". If you are alcoholic its all or nothing. If he wants to be sober he will have to change his playground, his playmates, his playthings and his relationship to the world around him. His ego will not be his amigo. 5:28
I don’t think Johnny did the doc because he wanted people to feel bad for him…. I think he did it to tell his story and show young athletes how easy it is to lose yourself and everything you’ve worked hard for…. Dumb take from Pat and the Boys
Good take. Not their fault he preferred being a bum
He and his dad spent half the movie blaming his coaches and the NCAA for his immaturity. It's not a must-see movie.
@@356zthey just had the guy on the show and gassed him up. He said he was an addict and then says he drinks and is opening a bar so I think they are just calling it straight. His interview was also sort of disengengeous in my honest opinion.
Or for the $$$$?
Lmao, he did it for money dude don’t be daft
Lmaooooo he made first take 5:26
If nothing else, Johnny Manziel beat Alabama all by himself, and for that I am eternally grafteful.