Whoop Band 4.0 Review and HR Accuracy Test - Did they fix it?!
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00:00 - Intro / Overview
02:27 - Whoop Upcycle Program
04:01 - Hardware Overview / New Features / Battery Life
05:22 - New Battery Pack
07:51 - New Heart Rate Sensor / Accuracy Testing / Whoop Body Apparel
09:54 - New Sensors / SpO2 / Skin Temperature
10:26 - Whoop IOS / Android App Overview
12:49 - New Health Monitor Dashboard
13:29 - New Sleep Coach / Alarm
14:03 - Subscription / Pricing / Final Thoughts - Sport
A really good primer and review on the Whoop 4.0 - thank you! I am waiting for mine to arrive, it has finally shipped after 4 months. Looks like it will do exactly what I was hoping for. Thanks again for the review - much more comprehensive than a few others that I’ve watched.
Glad you liked it! Hope you like the Whoop experience.
How are you liking it? Are you still using it?
@@larock0wns yes, I am still using it - for 10 months now. I really like it - it does give me very valuable biofeedback. However, I don't schedule my training according to high recovery days but the information on sleep pattern, HR, HRV, and respiratory rate are very interesting. Also the 'strain' data on different workouts. I'm a cyclist, and mainly train to heart rate.
I just ordered one, thanks for the review
That intro and the new Whoop “rocks”! - I’ll be here all week. I’ve never tested the Whoop but my friends seem to love it. 🤷🏻♂️
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Video subtitled in french, it is sooo coool! Thank you!!! ☺️👍
I love the shoots of the Whoop in the beginning
Thanks! How's the knee?
The main reason I bought the whoop 4.0 was that I wanted the data, but didn't want a smart watch. I wear mechanical watches daily, and have no interest in having a smart watch, so this just made sense. I also have built a home gym during COVID, so this will essentially replace my gym membership fee. I also like the ability to wear it on my bicep, so when I have to go to customer sites for work and can't wear wrist or finger jewellery, I can still get my data.
Nice! How do you like it so far?
Different point of view. Very personalised view, you consoled yourself of a way of using it in a way. For me, there are needs and wants. If i can get the same data for free from Garmin, plus the smart watch speciality, i don’t want to pay monthly fee for whoop as if i’m paying electric bill or water bill 💯. There are wants and needs. Don’t get yourself carried away on I.G phenomens that much.
@@emirgundogar79 that's exactly it, right? It's personalized. I have no interest in a smart watch, so paying $25/mo for whoop really is just a drop in the bucket when compared to the price of high end smart watches ($700-800). Sure, the data may be free, but the up front cost is significantly higher, and then there's always planned obsolescence to worry about.
@@ChaseTheSummit I really enjoy it. I haven't had any of the issues others have had, though.
I ordered the Whoop for myself for the exact same reason. I used to have the old school Jawbone fitness tracker bracelets, have had a Fitbit too, I want less to take away from my mechanical watches. Just received today, charging right now - looking forward to seeing how it goes.
(I bought the 18month package, and one for my girlfriend as well, little lump of cash to drop upfront, but gives me 18 months to work out if I stick with the Whoop or move onto something else)
No matter how much I'd want this whoop I just can't justify paying a high monthly premium on top of my gym membership when I can spend one flat rate for a device that's comparable if not better in its feature set. If they modified their model to lets say 80-100 for the device itself and then 5 bucks a month for the feature set I'd probably pull the trigger, as it stands now the only way to justify spending 200+ a year for this is if you're the type of person that wants the next new device provided they have an annual product cycle.
Thanks for sharing. I tend to agree. I'd rather pay $199 for the band even if I upgraded every year it just gives you more peace of mind like you at least own the thing!
I have the 3.0 (signed up for 18 months since March). Waiting on my 4.0. It does the job for me, and I'm not bothered by needing a subscription. The subscription means they can continually update and improve the app and device. I have it on my right wrist and had my watch on the left, but my Garmin watch battery died about 4 months ago (I only had it two years). So I run paired with the Strava app at the moment while waiting on the new Fenix.
Also, you put the 3.0 battery on the wrong way. If you align the whoop on the battery to the top and slide it towards the whoop on the band at the bottom, you should have no drama getting the battery on and off.
Appreciate your reviews and content; keep it up. Unfortunately can't use many links as I'm from Australia.
Thanks for sharing. Other brands like Garmin, COROS, Fitbit, and Suunto update their app regularly without an additional subscription but the free upgrades to the hardware is nice.
Yes, I know the battery was backwards in the video lol. It was just a quick demonstration as I do find it a bit fiddly to get the battery on and off sometimes. The 4.0 battery is WAY better in this regard.
Thanks for watching!
Great review as always
thanks!
Thanks for the video and all the information I just order my Whoop 4.0 and I can use all the information from ur video. Yes u right $300 plus is maybe too much but I’m going to try it and see if works for me.
Hope you like it!
Thanks for the great overview. I think you nailed the issue-it is a well-designed device, but, to me, the data is not worth the $40CAD a month. That is a hard sell. Oh, and thanks for not modelling the Whoop underwear! 😀
lol, the underwear will be in the next video 🩲
I owned a whoop 3.0 and it was good. But my main reason for the switch to a Garmin forerunner 945 was that I get a whole lot more features for 1 price rather than the subscription model (which really gets expensive as time goes on especially if you are doing a monthly subscription).
Good call!
the sleep alarm that wakes you up when you are 100% is something that I've been thinking for quite some time. If wasn't so expensive I would subscribe only for that. ps another great video
Thanks for sharing! The sleep coach is a pretty interesting tool!
It would be amazing if garmin included it, with a hard wake up time and perhaps a choice (sliding scale between waking at 80-100%).
Got a Apple Watch Ultra to mirror my phone notifications and when I decided to just keep my phone at home while going for my morning cycling or a walk. Ordered the Whoop 4 to learn more about myself and to recover well, all i know about it is only from youtube reviews and forums, can’t wait to try it when it arrives.
Now i can just rest my Apple watch after back from work.
Great Video as always Dave! 👊Whoop seems too expensive in my opinion. If you can, you should review the new Oura Ring. A video comparing Whoop and Oura could beawesome. Keep up the good work!
I intend to take a look at the Oura ring at some point! Thanks!
I'll be sticking with my Fenix 6 Pro Solar. Genuinely I nearly pulled the trigger on a Whoop 4.0. I'm so glad I didnt (the Whoop Reddit sealed the deal for me).
With my Fenix I have body battery for the recovery side. And Pace Pro and other training features that allow me to up my training without overreaching.
Thanks for sharing. Body Battery certainly gets the job done!
I just got mine. I was using the Apple Watch before this, and I didn’t like how it tracked my fitness. I’ll see how this works out. Thanks for your review.
Hope you like it!
I had a Whoop 3.0 and loved the data, but once I got my Garmin Fenix 6, I realized the data was close enough, the body battery was close enough, and I wanted to have smartphone notifications and time on my wrist, so I was always going to wear a second device with the Whoop. If I was going to wear a full smart watch anyway, there was no point in wearing the Whoop when the Garmin has close enough functionality.
Body Battery certainly comes close! I've got a whole video comparing BB to Whoop and it's surprising how in-line they seem to be. Thanks for sharing!
Totally considering. I enjoy Rucking, lifting heavy things and martial arts, so this could be interesting. Gonna be 52 years old, so monitoring my health is important more than ever
Sounds like it might benefit you!
just a little tip/info: putting on the whoop 3.0 battery, if you slide it from the other way (the side of the whoop without the clasp) it slides on easier
Haha yeah, I kind of dramatized it in this video. The 4.0 battery is just much easier to attach.
Very informative video as always. The subscription business model is really hurting them. I know dozens of people who were pretty interested in it when they first heard of it, but soon as they learned it's a subscription, they lost interest. You can get a fitness band with an Amoled screen, and 5 days battery life for 60 bucks nowadays, I think they should've made it a 80 - 100 dollars purchase at most.
I agree, even if they priced it at $200 subscription free I think a lot of folks would be more inclined to try it out. The fact that you basically never stop paying is a bummer!
@@ChaseTheSummit do you still use the 4.0 or just strictly Garmin ?
I have been wearing my Whoop for over a year. I have not received my upgraded yet. As the video says I have found the heart rate function to be inaccurate. Usually it over states the heart rate and overstates the daily strain when exercising. When I do cardio or lift weights I also use a Garmin Phoenix 5 paired with the Garmin chest strap. The Whoop will overstate my calories burned by 100 to 150 on a workout and if I run around 4 miles as much as 200 to 250. I just chalk it up to the chest strap is always going to be more accurate. The watch without the strap is equally off. When not exercising the heart rate seems to be accurate. The reason I stick with the whoop is not for the exercise function but the other things is measures. Recovery, RHR, HRV , Respiratory Rate and Sleep. I do rely on these to let me know how my body is tracking for the next day or the week and it compares my 7 day average. It absolutely help me know when I need a rest or I can push it for the day. I don't think I could stand not having that information. I had covid last December and my respiratory rate spiked when it started and by day 3 went back to normal which was in line as to how I felt. It is a $30 monthly subscription ($24 if you pay annually) but for me it is not as much a workout tool as a it is a body analyzer.
thanks for sharing so much! Hopefully you see better results with the 4.0 update.
Would love to see you compare the Whoop 4.0 to the new Oura Ring 3 plus garmim strain and body battery
Working on it!
I've been using the gen2 oura since it got out and I will absolutely NOT upgrade to gen3 for multiple reasons. I am also a long time user of garmin watches and apple watches (starting w/ apple watch 2). The ring is just not worth it.
Thanks
I wore whoop 3 for more than a year. Then I bought a fitbit luxe. I used it for two months and finally bought a garmin venu 2 plus. And now I get a lot of pleasure from garmin. The only plus of whoop for me was the presence of a bicep strap. But as practice has shown, I have not often used a bicep strap.
Thanks for sharing!
i wish other companies would do an upcycling as well.., i can think of 2 off the top of my head (that will remain nameless, to protect the innocent) that could probably do this, and possibly get more ppl onboarded to the wearables space.., but anywho.., great post.
lets get to 50K, in 30 or so days .. LETS GO
Thanks. I was very interested how this works and what are differences between 3 and 4. Ideas is cool and I like option having no screen, but in the other hand I also enjoy my Fenix 6X not dependable on phone when I need it to be (with whoop that would be impossible). And yes, not having gps for tracking pace etc would not work for me.
For sure, I think the Whoop is more of a companion to a fitness watch. Thanks for watching!
I just ordered one with your link. I tried the Oura ring (on right now). I’m not impressed with their app or the ring. Sizing is wonky. Fitness tracking seems iffy. I don’t know. We shall see. Regardless, your videos are incredibly helpful. Thank you for the work you have put into these videos. I know the amount of time and effort is tremendous despite how “easy” you make it all look.
Glad it looks easy! I assure you it is not lol. Hope you enjoy the Whoop!
I had been wearing my apple watch 6 along with the whoop 3. i felt like this was a good enough to quantify my training. I recently purchased the Fenix6 so that i only have to wear one device. i am still waiting to receive my whoop 4. once i receive it i'll be trying different combos to find what works best for me during my next training block.
Thanks for sharing! Hope the Whoop 4 works for you.
I got my Whoop today. I haven't used it yet, but chose it because it's the only tracker I can wear for Jiu-Jitsu.
Makes sense! Hope it works for you!
I had a WHOOP 3.0 and I also had heart rate readings issues.. They told me it was the shape of my wrist… yeah.. so I sent it back.
Thanks for sharing.
i go the whoop. great concept. but, the heart rate monitor wasn't accurate. so, i'm returning it.
Thanks for sharing.
Not defending the subscription model but one benefit is free replacement hardware if you break or loose it. Lost my 3.0 in the bottom of a lake and had a battery pack go bad (may or may not have been from showering with it). Both were replaced at no charge.
That being said I wouldn't know if they always offer free replacements or if my case was unique.
Thanks for sharing! I'm not sure if they offer free replacements to everyone but I have heard it on occasion. It's good to know they offer decent customer service!
I got my 4.0 a few weeks ago. Noticed when I’d go to check HR it would be much higher than my actual but would steadily go down as I kept HR reading open. Sometimes it would say “off body” despite it being positioned same as always. One day I went for a walk and it “picked up an activity” where my strain was 11.0 and my HR spiked to 175, which definitely did not reflect the actual. After looking at my “back data”, they are sending me a new one. Hopefully it functions better…never had these issues with the 3.0
Oh bummer. I hope it's just a defective unit. In my testing the 4.0 seems to be much better than the 3.0. Thanks for sharing.
Just got my whoop 4. The same thing! Did they send you better whoop 4 ?
This is a really great and informative video. I have the 4.0 myself but does anyone know how to see my heart rate on a timeline throughout the day?
Glad it was helpful! The only way to see the raw HR data is to pair the Whoop band to your phone and use something like Polar Beat to record the data. Otherwise the data is just stored in Whoops servers and there's no way to access it.
You can turn your phone sideways in the Whoop app and it will show the entire day of HR
I got the 6 month subscription to try it out. Might get it in the next six months lol.
lol! Yeah they're a little behind on shipments!
How did get the first 6 month. For free ?
G'day mate,
Looking to see if you might have a opinion on choice.
I've been umm-ing and ah-ing over a whoop band for awhile now but am still fairly uncertain.
Not sure I can quite say what I'm uncertain over but the feeling would probably be themed 'worth'.
To fill some background I'm a aspiring sprint athlete and currently have a garmin 245 music from 2018 I think. (I say this because I believe the model has been updated since)
Recently I've been closer than ever to making a choice but decided to look around once more and find out Garmin now has a body battery system that seems to rival Whoop.
It would seem that either way I would be in for acquiring a new device as my current Garmin would not support the body battery system.
I understand with Whoop you are mostly paying for the metrics it provides but given with Garmins load metrics, HRV recovery, and now body battery system does one now outwiegh the other or are they even enough that price is now the deciding factor (endless subscription vs one time cost)
The main aim for me is probably the recovery aspect of the tracking
Thanks for the video coverage and info
It's kind of subjective. The Whoop system is pretty unique and provides a lot more data than Garmin's body battery and the sleep tracking is far superior. That said, Garmin gets MOST of the way there and there's monthly fee and the device itself is much nicer and has a display... The choice is yours!
@@ChaseTheSummit Cheers mate, I guess it's the subjectivity that's the hardest part about it.
Thanks again
How do you find the heart rate and calories tracked compared to the garmin 245? Wondering if justifying wearing both is worth it. Been wearing my 3.0 for a long time, and just received my 4.0 the other day but since then I've bought a garmin 245 when it went on sale. And unsure if wearing both is actually worth it....
Whoop is a bit more generous in terms of calories tracked. I'm not sure why, I suspect they have a higher BMR for me or something. As to which one is more accurate in this regard I have no way of knowing since I don't have a scientific calorie test to compare.
In the good old days when I didn’t sleep enough, I was tired all day. It was common to hear “my arse is really dragging today, I stayed out late last night”. If I over exercised, I was usually beat up for the next day or so. Now there are devices to confirm what I always knew. Where would we be without all this technology? I guess we can now go into the office and say “ I’m only 17% recovered, lay off me today”.
lol, it's so true. All of these gadgets are really just validating what we already know.
Haha YES! This. I just would never listen to a device. If I'm supposed to run 10 miles today for marathon training, I'm running the 10 miles. Having kids, job, etc. you never know how much sleep you're going to get etc but I just would never be like oh I can't train today my device says I'm not fresh enough. Waste of $
I've been sick for many years and we can't figure out why, but things in my body change for no reason at all. I wonder if this would help my doctor see anything helpful over time 🤔
A device like this might provide some valuable insight!
Had my 4.0 for about a month now, and while it's "good", increasingly it tracks very close to my Garmin body battery w/ my Fenix 6S so I'm honestly not that sure what I'm paying for. Depending on what the Fenix 7 looks like when it comes out, I'm going to find it a bit hard to justify the Whoop 4.0 unless they start leveraging the new sensors in the next 2-3 months. My subscription runs out in March, and it looks like they aren't going to do a discounted Cyber Week sale on subscriptions this year. If they don't that might be enough for me to bail for now.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I've also noticed that Body Battery trends pretty similarly to Whoop!
i just bought one
Nice!
Did you have to charge the battery pack when it first came? I got mine today but no light or anything on it when I tap
Yes, mine was low when it arrived.
Just finally got my Whoop 4.0 in today after using my 3.0 for approx. 3 years. Definitely no "upcycle" recycling band to someone else program going on anymore.
Not sure if they only did that for the influencer packages? (really shady on their part if so)
or they stopped doing it because of cost or ineffectiveness.
I'd really like to know as a long time customer.
Oh weird. I don't think I got a special package. I upgraded using their website just like everyone else... no special treatment. I was one of the first people to use the upgrade program though so maybe that's why?
I got the same upcycle package and am definitely not an influencer! Ordered back in September (I think) & received mid December.
The battery pack on the 4.0 is constantly turning off, I have yet to fully charge my 4.0 and I have had it a week so far. I have to either keep tapping the battery or maybe keep moving my wrist to charge, not sure, but inconvenient if I'm charging while sitting still
Turning off? strange. Seems like a defective unit.
Somebody else has probably already said this but it looks like you were sliding the battery pack for the Whoop 3.0 on the wrong way. It goes on really easy if you do it the correct way.
lol yeah, It was more of a dramatiziation. The Whoop 4.0 battery is just way easier to put on and off. Thanks for watching!
I mean from a heart rate accuracy stand point is it more accurate then your average watch in that price range? Could it actually compete with the 945 lte
Not in my experience so far. It’s basically like “most” of the optical wrist worn HR sensors on the market at this point. The 945LTE , Venu 2, and Apple Watch 6/7 are still in the lead in my testing. I’d still call the Whoop 4 “acceptable” compared to the competition though. Hope that helps!
@@ChaseTheSummit yeah that's what I figured. All whoop ends up being is good marketing of an okay product.
Watching this guy trying to put the 3.0 battery pack on from the wrong side gave me PTSD.
lol, I was adding a bit of drama to it for effect. Fact is I always fiddled with the 3.0 battery pack!
what hoodie are you wearing in this video?
Outdoor Research Vigor Hoodie!
Where do you locate your MHR in the mobile app or online?
I think it's located under the recovery tab?
Does this device transmit HR data to en external bike computer such a Garmin or Sigma ??
Yes, this can be enabled within the smartphone app. It does drain more battery when broadcasting heart-rate though.
Can you compare with the oura ring 3.0
Trying to get my hands on one!
Thanks for a detailed and excellent review. Whoop's subscription cost is beyond ridiculous. Unfortunately I will choose something else.
Glad it was helpful.
Still can’t even turn this thing on, they say to tap it to turn it on and it’s not working pretty dumb
It's always on. Tapping it just shows the battery status. Does it turn on when you attach the charger?
So basically you never stop paying for a device not better than what is already on the market 😂
Yep
They got balls asking you to subscribe I mean seriously WTF.
It is what it is!
Expensive - have though about it many times but it’s more expensive then my gym membership. A lot athletes on CZcams have been sponsored by Whoop so be aware of all the rave-praise on product.
Yeah, it's interesting to see so much sponsored content out there from Whoop specifically in the crossfit world. I'm glad I'm able to share an honest opinion on it.
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I'm kind of stuck with whoop as the only decent option I've found anywhere that is right for wrestling and bjj. It's important that there's nothing on your chest or wrist, and when it's on your biced it has to be low profile and we'll encased in padding as to not affect training partners.
So far this is the only device I know that offers this... 🤷🏻♂️
It's a good option for martial arts for sure. You could also use something like the Polar Verity Sense or Schoche Rythm but they don't collect all of the other data.
@@ChaseTheSummit thanks! I'll check those out!
I got mine within like six days.
Thankfully they're back in stock and ready to ship!
Be absolutely clear that Whoop’s sleep tracker is highly flawed. Last night it recorded that I was “awake” for 4 hours and 35 minutes. Absolute nonsense.
Interesting. I haven't had that experience. In fact Whoops sleep tracking seems more accurate than some of my other devices. I wonder what caused that for you?
Shocked with the pricing lol
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Not worth the money in my opinion, also because you cannot monitor your heart rate during exercise which is helpful
Yep! good point. It would have been nice if they had a simple LED display on the front that displayed real time HR and maybe the time of day? Probably too much to ask!
@@ChaseTheSummit yes! It’s called watch :) many out there!
Every wearable is wrong, just depends on which tech you prefer, which makes you get active and changes your lifestyle. Find the one that works best for you and screw other opinions.
I'm not sure they're "ALL WRONG" but I'd agree that we need to focus less on the inaccuracies and focus more on how they improve our day to day life. Who cares if it's wrong if you're feeling better, and looking fitter right?
Shame about the subscription, definitely a no from me. Also not great about the E-waste.. you’ve got to be mad to pay that subscription fee to wear the old band . Would be cool if they made it cheaper or something
I tend to agree about the pricing. Good point about the old band, I wonder if those people would get the free upgrade as well? 🤔
I'll stick with my Galaxy Watch Active 2.
Thanks for sharing!
I’ve noticed something about your videos and that is that you feel compelled to say the full, proper name of the item you’re talking about and usually multiple times per minute. I wonder if you might try shaking things up and try using shortened versions intermittently throughout your videos. For example, instead of repeatedly saying “Whoop Band 4.0” through the entire video, maybe occasionally try “Whoop 4.0” or even just “4.0.” Just some unsolicited advice that I think would improve the experience a bit.
lol, yeah that's a character flaw of mine for sure. I always have it in my head that I'll confuse the viewer if I don't distinguish what I'm talking about. I'll see what I can do in the future.
I think having 4 kids has something to do about you not recovering enough
lol, yeah I think you're right!
Why do these exist? 😆 Garmin Fenix 200$ off at rei recently
lol! Lots of people like them! Heck, I kind of dig it. I wish Garmin had this functionality baked into the ecosystem.
@@ChaseTheSummit but that subscription though!
It is inaccurate that you get the 4.0 as a subscriber!! I went back and forth with whoop and they would only send a 4.0 if I signed up for an additional 6 months. I have already paid a lot of money for a year subscription for a wildly in accurate device and with 6 months left in my subscription (at the time of 4.0 release) I was not willing to pay more money for a gamble on a device that might be marginally better. I would have extended my subscription if the new 4.0 was better and they had sent it to me as guaranteed for active members. They obviously do not have the faith in this device or they would let it sell it's self rather than locking you into a subscription with a bad device.
Thanks for sharing that. I believe existing subscribers with at least 6 months remaining on their plan will get the 4.0 upgrade. I should have clarified in the video. Kind of a bummer that they won't give you an upgrade. What's the up-charge to get the 4.0?
@@ChaseTheSummit I would have to commit to another contract of at least 6 more months on top of the rest of my one year commitment. I even offered to extend a couple months more monthly to try the 4 but they were not receptive to that.
Whoop is for those of us who do not want a smartwatch. I personally, only wanted something that looks like a wristband; while wearing my mechanical watch or a G-shock on my other wrist. Btw, you’re the first CZcamsr who has had a problem with whoop’s heart rate function.
I'm the first? I don't think so. Ray over at DC Rainmaker also had similar issues with the Whoop 3.0. I also noticed that Whoop sponsors a lot of videos on CZcams which tend to put a positive spin on the product. I like the simplicity of Whoop but the price tag is kind of crazy considering what the device actually does. Thanks for watching!
@@ChaseTheSummit Thanks, for you’re quick response. For me paying that much money is not an issue, I don’t to sound like a douchebag but I upgrade every year for the next Apple Watch, .For me the Whoop’s biggest selling point is that it looks like a bracelet. Therefore, you can wear a watch on your other wrist. Btw you have a new subscriber 👍
Damn dude…. You can loosen it a bit…. Not supposed to be that right 😂
For the sake of accuracy!
Good review- review is a bit long IMO. Skip to 14:10 to get the bottom line version.
Thanks! Sure, that's the TLDR 😉
What the heck is a woop band lol.
I think the video explains it 🤔
It's too bad they don't recycle their own devices.
I'm not sure if they do or don't. I think the "upcycle" program is separate from that though.
People who complain about the subscription model don't understand the costs involved in storing that much data.
FitBit, Apple, Google, Garmin, Suunto, COROS, Polar, etc... all store this kind of data and much more (GPX files, wellness data, etc...) and none of them require a monthly subscription cost.
@@ChaseTheSummit if you don't pay for the product you are the product
@@RobertHennigerOnline that might apply in some situations but not with most of these companies. For instance if you purchase a Garmin you get access to Garmin connect. There's no ads, they don't mine your data, and there's not a bunch of fluff or marketing emails. You simply gain access to the platform by purchasing one of their devices. Not everything needs to be a subscription.
Not worthy in my opinion.
It's different, but the price is a little steep.