DEFCON scares me and science says it will scare you too

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  • čas přidán 16. 07. 2019
  • DEFCON is existentially terrifying. How about a nice game of chess?
    Studies:
    David L. Waddington et al.“Education from inside the bunker: Examining the effect of Defcon, a nuclear warfare simulation game, on nuclear attitudes and critical reflection.” Journal of the Canadian Game Studies Association. vol. 7(12), Apr. 2014
    Chong-U Lim. "An A.I. Player for DEFCON: An Evolutionary Approach Using Behavior Trees." Department of Computing Imperial College London. June 2009
    Miguel Sicart "How I Learned to Love the Bomb: Defcon and the Ethics of Computer Games." Center for Computer Game Research IT University of Copenhagen. 2009
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  • @naufalnq
    @naufalnq Před 4 lety +5396

    How to play Defcon
    First: install Defcon
    Second: start nuclear war
    Third: play defcon

  • @GlitchedBlox
    @GlitchedBlox Před 3 lety +14058

    "You see that city?"
    "Yes, sir."
    "I don't want to."
    "Yes, sir!"

    • @aureusknighstar2195
      @aureusknighstar2195 Před 3 lety +209

      "Tachibana-san, why aren't we living?"

    • @JavaScrapper
      @JavaScrapper Před 3 lety +94

      @@aureusknighstar2195 cause
      MURICA FRICK YA

    • @leexcite2903
      @leexcite2903 Před 3 lety +167

      **proceeds to make him blind**

    • @aninditapaul9291
      @aninditapaul9291 Před 3 lety +70

      @@leexcite2903 **by making him see the nuclear blast on the city**

    • @ennieminymoo6675
      @ennieminymoo6675 Před 3 lety +43

      @@aninditapaul9291 *and then stabbing him in the eyes just in case*

  • @boxofcereal
    @boxofcereal Před 9 měsíci +590

    Destroying the world in Plague Inc: hehe I’m such a monster
    Destroying the world in Defcon: *what have I done*

    • @a0001521
      @a0001521 Před 3 měsíci +39

      Stellaris players: hehe ethnic cleansing lmao

    • @user-ez7ed7kd8e
      @user-ez7ed7kd8e Před měsícem +4

      Nah my reaction to the game is plague inc. Don’t know why people are put off or disturbed by this game. It’s just a silly map game with funny little numbers popping up.

    • @DEFC0NZER0
      @DEFC0NZER0 Před 19 dny +2

      ​@user-ez7ed7kd8e
      Same. I played Defcon, expecting to be scared or at least unnerved, but in truth I felt nothing. I had fun, it certainly wasn't boring, but I didn't feel any worse about it.

    • @threeheadedmonsterofficial
      @threeheadedmonsterofficial Před 3 dny

      the difference between plague inc and defcon is you cant control where viruses go but you can control where nukes go

  • @localvaultcompanion3516
    @localvaultcompanion3516 Před 2 lety +1340

    In 1870, decades before the nuclear bomb was created, and English author by the name of Wilkie Collins was surveying the destruction caused by either the Franco-Prussian War or the American Civil War (I forget which one, both were horrible). He made the remark that one day humanity will make a "discovery…of a destructive agent so terrible that war shall mean annihilation, and men’s fears shall force them to keep the peace."

    • @Deathstroke-gd6kd
      @Deathstroke-gd6kd Před rokem +31

      He seems to have been wrong, or we haven't reached that stage yet. I don't know which is worse

    • @TK-5311
      @TK-5311 Před rokem +134

      @@Deathstroke-gd6kd during the cold War russia and the US wanted to nuke each other very badly but they knew the world would end if either one did so, I believe we have hit that stage, we are still in it

    • @atif1538
      @atif1538 Před rokem +17

      @@Deathstroke-gd6kd pretty sure we have with the atomic bomb

    • @ShiroCh_ID
      @ShiroCh_ID Před rokem +9

      @@pileofthoughts this is a possibility
      too much risk and less return
      while war give advantage to its victor nuclear war is totally didnt give advantage to its victor nor its victim
      its like "we won this war and now what?" and as to why is that all i can say that after war i bet theres no way to eat thing without dies due to nuclear mutation of things

    • @greenrithley5577
      @greenrithley5577 Před rokem

      @@TK-5311 czcams.com/video/0KiII_2qabk/video.html

  • @counter-terrordoge3335
    @counter-terrordoge3335 Před 4 lety +8014

    *When you play DEFCON on an Area 51 computer and walk outsde*

  • @MxAmericanPi
    @MxAmericanPi Před 4 lety +7371

    "Oh a new video from Polygon! I wonder what light-hearted video game humor Clayton has in store for me today!"
    *six minutes later*
    "oh."

    • @merezko4339
      @merezko4339 Před 4 lety +30

      Oh No ...

    • @PuddleOfCats
      @PuddleOfCats Před 4 lety +30

      Life and how quickly we can die itself its humor

    • @mandernachluca3774
      @mandernachluca3774 Před 4 lety +13

      Don't be to terrified tho, the game lacks geopolitical interactions, therefor it is as from reality as Fallout 4 for example.
      What they miss completely is the fact that eradicating a whole country by irradiating it completely is not an option for a war, as you always try to gain land, resources, food stock, to gain in power on the way.
      After we saw the effects of radiation ont the japanese population, nuclear weapons got a mere tool of fear, nothing more.
      One has note, that i come to this conclusion, because i know that russia and america for example have nuclear weapon technology, that is virtually unstoppable, i am talking about missiles that travel at multiple times the speed of sound for days or even weeks, releasing radioactive material in the process.

    • @kalebpinkston3495
      @kalebpinkston3495 Před 4 lety +11

      Mandernach Luca that’s one thing I’ve noticed when people talk about nuclear Armageddon, they always leave out resources. Makes sense why the 2nd launcher would shoot, but the 1st launcher? What would they have to gain other than mutual destruction? And even if they could get away with “minimal “ damage, what then? You can’t conquer the area you nuked.not saying a nuclear war couldn’t happen but there’s a lot of questions I pose that no one cares to ask or answer other than, “cuz it’s inevitable”.well why is it? What could they gain?at the end of the day all countries want 2 things.1 self preservation 2 to conquer, dictate, or gain any sense of control for resources to benefit themselves.

    • @jwadaow
      @jwadaow Před 4 lety +6

      Kaleb Pinkston if you lost territory to an enemy then there is a point at which it becomes rational to attack them with nuclear weapons. That is the application of mutually assured destruction policy to conventional warfare and geopolitics. The storming of west Germany was expected to unfold that way.

  • @CeapaCoolOfficial
    @CeapaCoolOfficial Před 2 lety +606

    Yo someone's playing this on the wrong computer

    • @elizataylor1726
      @elizataylor1726 Před 2 lety +14

      Play it on an off white CRT.. or like.. a projector screen

    • @golonkowiczpl
      @golonkowiczpl Před 2 lety +8

      And HE knows that

    • @coleisforrobot
      @coleisforrobot Před rokem +14

      ah f*ck I accidentally bought putin sim

    • @The_Looker
      @The_Looker Před rokem +5

      @@coleisforrobot, aw hell nah bro💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

    • @-thanawat-8296
      @-thanawat-8296 Před rokem +1

      @@coleisforrobot 💀💀💀💀💀

  • @Goraata
    @Goraata Před rokem +191

    “The nuclear arms race is like two sworn enemies standing waist deep in gasoline, one with three matches, the other with five.” - Carl Sagan

  • @jerguskrc
    @jerguskrc Před 4 lety +11059

    "No one would ever let it happen"
    Gandhi: *evil laugh*

    •  Před 4 lety +67

      Why Gandhi?

    • @jerguskrc
      @jerguskrc Před 4 lety +514

      @ Because he nukes the shit out of everybody in Civ

    • @opfoca1oparrowmarinerecon154
      @opfoca1oparrowmarinerecon154 Před 4 lety +694

      @ you wouldn't get it ;)

    • @BasedAlaric
      @BasedAlaric Před 4 lety +530

      @ You wouldn't get it *smokes*

    •  Před 4 lety +69

      Yeah i really don't get it :(

  • @lovaszaron3138
    @lovaszaron3138 Před 3 lety +5749

    DEFCON 5: Peace.
    DEFCON 4: Ready for war.
    DEFCON 3: War.
    DEFCON 2: Total war.
    DEFCON 1: The peace of unburied dead.

  • @devkit0
    @devkit0 Před 2 lety +314

    I was playing a round of Survivor mode (which is honestly the best way to play it, especially if you also do it in real time) and I felt real fear and panic as enemy nukes rained down on my territory while my missile defenses tried in vain to stop them. Seeing such enormous death counts in cities I know and have seen in person... it gave me this sinking feeling I can't quite describe. I kept all of my silos in defense mode while everyone else fired their nukes, scrambled every fighter I had to defend the mainland, prevented EVERY sub my enemy had from firing, and yet still I ended up losing about half of my population. Once I knew the other side was dry, I remember thinking, "Well... You asked for it," before targeting every city they had with every warhead in my arsenal. I ended up "winning" that round by a LOT, but it didn't even feel like victory. Like he said in the video, everybody loses.

    • @commandertoastcz6256
      @commandertoastcz6256 Před 2 měsíci +16

      This is what I was searching for. The fact that you can defend all you want, try to prevent casualties as much as possible, but in the end... it isn't a victory. Just a slightly lesser defeat.

    • @thiccchungo1041
      @thiccchungo1041 Před 2 měsíci +17

      @@commandertoastcz6256also shows how pathetically petty the retaliatory strike is, even though the enemy’s missile systems have been exhausted and their aircraft and fleets destroyed by your forces, you still end up launching an attack on the defenseless civilian centers for no other reason than “you had it coming”

    • @DarthHoosier3038
      @DarthHoosier3038 Před 22 dny +3

      It reminds me of Avengers Endgame. At the start of the movie, Thanos still won. They killed him, sure. But that didn’t solve anything. Everyone they knew still died. It’s hard to even call it a Pyrrhic Victory. Even Pyrrhus of Epirus would have been deadened and sick by that reality.

  • @Roxor128
    @Roxor128 Před 2 lety +174

    You forgot to mention DEFCON's ancestor: 1980's Missile Command from 26 years earlier, which also had the message of "You can't win a nuclear war."

  • @luthofekisi1730
    @luthofekisi1730 Před 3 lety +8308

    "War is a frightening concept, but this defcon shit scares the hell outta me"
    - Sun Tzu

    • @jameswilson2110
      @jameswilson2110 Před 2 lety +21

      Deftly

    • @justshrimping742
      @justshrimping742 Před 2 lety +26

      He didn't said that!!

    • @streamfroster
      @streamfroster Před 2 lety +111

      @@justshrimping742 "Do not trust quotes on the internet, they are fake, they are made-up"
      - Sun Tzu

    • @justshrimping742
      @justshrimping742 Před 2 lety +39

      @@streamfroster wait? He said that as well !? WHATTT IS HAPPEENNINGGGG!!!!1!!1

    • @larrykapija3183
      @larrykapija3183 Před 2 lety +194

      Stop quoting my brother
      -Moon Tzu

  • @Jellomancy
    @Jellomancy Před 4 lety +5665

    Polygon, my source for goofy video game articles and existential dread.

    • @spore4ever91
      @spore4ever91 Před 4 lety +12

      I mean, they had Monster Factory.

    • @mountplusBladeequals
      @mountplusBladeequals Před 4 lety +7

      If they think DEFCON is spooky (it isn't), they should give Superpower 2 a whirl. [czcams.com/video/HykWHkMtAzU/video.html]
      Nothing quite like watching millions of your people die, and your economy crash because of a political blunder.

    • @mountplusBladeequals
      @mountplusBladeequals Před 4 lety +3

      Also - can we stop peddling this "everybody dies" notion, it's making out politicians sloppy and it's just an inaccurate statement. Not even "most people" would die in the event of modern nuclear exchange. Nuclear warheads aren't all that powerful, and people are spread out - killing them, even with nukes, takes 'a lot' of work.
      China's arsenal for instance is so wimpy that it is mathematically incapable of killing a quarter of the US' populace.

    • @travisraveller
      @travisraveller Před 4 lety +29

      @@mountplusBladeequals but, there is the radiation poisoning, and the fact no life will be able to sustain itself for years, and the fact that most nuclear bomb shelters have been left unattended after the cold war, and that the survivors will die of cancer from the nuclear fallout in the atmosphere...
      ...
      Am I missing anything?
      Not everyone will die, but it will suck for the survivors, not to mention the survivor's guilt and the weakened governments
      I hope we can agree that we should never have a nuclear war

    • @cosmix4460
      @cosmix4460 Před 4 lety +2

      I'm glad how they didn't launched a single bomb in the Philippines.

  • @misiekfid
    @misiekfid Před 2 lety +300

    Another terrifying version of a nuclear war is the thermonuclear war event in the TNO mod for Hearts of Iron IV. The event shows children playing, an EAS alarm, destroyed buildings and a child's black outline on a wall (like in hiroshima and nagasaki) while the entire world slowly turns black

    • @MaliciousIntent327
      @MaliciousIntent327 Před rokem +16

      Not to mention your UIs are shattered and reduced to rubble.

    • @MaliciousIntent327
      @MaliciousIntent327 Před rokem +13

      And it shows as "Anarchy" when clicking a state.

    • @jaredjosephsongheng372
      @jaredjosephsongheng372 Před 6 měsíci +16

      ​@@MaliciousIntent327
      And also there is a bloody note on the side that says.
      "All Gone"

  • @Thesnakerox
    @Thesnakerox Před rokem +32

    One thing about this game that's masterfully done is the way the overall atmosphere slowly, subtly deteriorates as the death count rises. The screen gets darker and the soundscape becomes more desolate, and you don't consciously notice, but it has a powerful effect all the same.

  • @cityuser
    @cityuser Před 4 lety +38004

    You didn't mention the worst part about this game.
    When you "win", (all else is gone), you don't get a win screen.
    Just- nothing. Silence. The dreadful silence of millions upon millions of deaths.

    • @thorstend.888
      @thorstend.888 Před 4 lety +3595

      They could have gone one step further by removing the Score/Point system. Just show the statistics of the casualties. No high score

    • @birdflox1337
      @birdflox1337 Před 4 lety +3147

      @@thorstend.888 i think the scoring system was used as a metaphor for how the military can sometimes see these statistics as just being mindless numbers

    • @Ghost_of_Avalon
      @Ghost_of_Avalon Před 4 lety +1176

      Millions? Billions.

    • @TheFranciscoFm
      @TheFranciscoFm Před 4 lety +119

      @@Ghost_of_Avalon Nop

    • @lucianostizzoli2676
      @lucianostizzoli2676 Před 4 lety +389

      @@Ghost_of_Avalon Billions? Trillions.

  • @Nawrotsien
    @Nawrotsien Před 3 lety +5736

    Abraham Lincoln talking about scary game doesn't exist, he can't hurt you
    Abraham Lincoln talking about scary game:

    • @woda9291
      @woda9291 Před 3 lety +34

      Underated comment

    • @andrewdiaz3529
      @andrewdiaz3529 Před 3 lety +14

      Far Cry 5

    • @scparker6893
      @scparker6893 Před 3 lety +5

      He has a moustache

    • @daman7805
      @daman7805 Před 3 lety +14

      Omg I didn’t understand this comment until like 10 seconds in. Then I fell over and died.

    • @sleepyrowdy1826
      @sleepyrowdy1826 Před 3 lety +4

      @@andrewdiaz3529 Joseph or John?

  • @kommiekoathanger1418
    @kommiekoathanger1418 Před rokem +95

    I think the scariest part of this game is that god damn sound design, seriously just hearing that snippet of the audio sent fucking chills down my spine

  • @AdsAreRuiningEverything
    @AdsAreRuiningEverything Před 2 lety +996

    This is what happens when you give power to a bunch of old people that only have 10 years of life left

    • @slimkid206
      @slimkid206 Před 2 lety +7

      😂😂😂

    • @cameroni6785
      @cameroni6785 Před 2 lety +58

      And no kids.

    • @see4881
      @see4881 Před rokem +1

      Damn

    • @robertknight2615
      @robertknight2615 Před rokem +6

      Ur probably 14

    • @see4881
      @see4881 Před rokem

      @@robertknight2615 AND YOUR PROBABLY Away down south in the land of traitors
      Rattlesnakes and alligators
      Right away (come away)
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      Where cotton’s king and men are chattles
      Union boys will win the battles
      Right away (come away)
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      Come away
      We’ll all go down to dixie
      Away, away
      Each dixie boy must understand
      That he must mind his uncle sam
      Away, away
      We’ll all go down to dixie
      Away, away
      I wish I was in baltimore
      I’d make secession traitors roar right away
      Right away (come away)
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      Come away
      We'll put the traitors all to route
      I'll bet my boots we'll whip 'em out
      Right away (come away)
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      We'll all go down to dixie
      Away, away
      Each dixie boy must understand
      That he must mind his uncle sam
      Away, away
      We'll all go down to dixie
      Away, away
      We'll all go down to dixie
      Away, away
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      O may our stars and stripes
      Still wave forever roar the free and brave
      Right away (come away)
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      And let our motto forever be for union and for liberty
      Right away (come away)
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      Come away
      We'll all go down to dixie
      Away, away
      Each dixie boy must understand
      That he must mind his uncle sam
      Away, away
      We'll all go down to dixie!
      Away, away
      We’ll all go down
      To dixie

  • @somedude8468
    @somedude8468 Před 3 lety +5061

    "Yo 1v1 me"
    Cold war in a nutshell

    • @aekgir4698
      @aekgir4698 Před 3 lety +20

      lmao

    • @Daniel_Lancelin
      @Daniel_Lancelin Před 3 lety +138

      It's more like if the two players with the highest scores on each team suddenly went spectator mode and started placing bets while their teams fought it out.

    • @gabbyn.3049
      @gabbyn.3049 Před 3 lety +45

      @@Daniel_Lancelin No, its the tension of the two smartest kids in class waiting for the teacher to finish their question.

    • @muchotexto4248
      @muchotexto4248 Před 3 lety +17

      Cold war is the typical hero VS evil villain lord but both sides are just villain lords. Like instead of the hero with the sword is just a blue version of the enemy dude and they both send pawns to do biddings and said pawns mirror match as noone moves foward cuz both sides are just lords sitting on differently coloured thrones

    • @MrBlack75922
      @MrBlack75922 Před 3 lety +4

      Both just camping and hard scoping

  • @powerfulberry237
    @powerfulberry237 Před 4 lety +7474

    " *DEFCON* stands for *Def* ense, Readiness and *Con* dition."
    Readiness: "Am I a joke to you"

    • @DTSephiroth
      @DTSephiroth Před 4 lety +783

      Yes... Readiness is always the joke... Because nobody is ready for the end of the world.

    • @huntexlee
      @huntexlee Před 4 lety +173

      @@DTSephiroth deep

    • @user-do5zk6jh1k
      @user-do5zk6jh1k Před 4 lety +91

      Because we don't want to say DEFRECON. That doesn't roll off the tongue as well

    • @vgman94
      @vgman94 Před 4 lety +104

      米空軍パイロット We all prefer to use DECEPTICON instead.

    • @equintrinity8678
      @equintrinity8678 Před 4 lety +104

      It should be *DREADCON* *D* efense *Read* iness *Con* dition

  • @juksleo6257
    @juksleo6257 Před rokem +27

    "People die when they are killed"
    Its a line from Fate Stay Night that got memed to oblivion due to how redundant it was but I think it bears a strong idea on just how valuable a life truly is. You can't "undo" a death. Once its gone, it doesn't come back. This is why its important to value life. Yours and those around you, so even if you don't have much to be grateful for, you can at least tale contempt on the fact that you are alive, and that many others are also alive. Cherish that thought, and try to live making the most of it

    • @APerson-ni1gb
      @APerson-ni1gb Před rokem +1

      Yeah but then your just afraid of death it sounds, besides some people/animals have comeback from death technically and some explain what they experienced, since Every thing in this silly Universe ultimately dies it should be a comforting notion - like it’s a milestone

  • @mattsgrungy
    @mattsgrungy Před rokem +29

    Out of interest: did you ever play the diplomacy mode where all the players start as friends and allies and then scheme behind each other's back? That was my favourite way to play and it was probably the darkest existentially.

  • @shironeko8971
    @shironeko8971 Před 4 lety +47170

    When you turn off the PC but the siren doesn’t stop

    • @JaseyStudios
      @JaseyStudios Před 4 lety +1209

      OOF

    • @badmoth242xl3
      @badmoth242xl3 Před 4 lety +1333

      Hol up

    • @its-amemegatron.9521
      @its-amemegatron.9521 Před 4 lety +611

      @@badmoth242xl3
      [Last know post made on June 6th 1995 from a CZcams user that lived in a city along the Waldreich mountains]

    • @jiggybaba786
      @jiggybaba786 Před 4 lety +728

      That actually happened one time and I was scared running, tears in my eyes, busting down my parents door to there room...
      Luckily, I just moved to a different city that had a prison nearby, it was roll call

    • @epiknis3035
      @epiknis3035 Před 4 lety +208

      Aight imma head out

  • @jadenkaramanos7030
    @jadenkaramanos7030 Před 4 lety +6262

    you can’t fool me i know the cassette voice is BDG

    • @Souleater787
      @Souleater787 Před 4 lety +302

      I fall asleep to his voice every night before bed I cannot be swayed.

    • @emilylikesdonuts154
      @emilylikesdonuts154 Před 4 lety +70

      I was thinking that too XD

    • @AbsolXGuardian
      @AbsolXGuardian Před 4 lety +216

      Probably because the study just had a transcript of the comment and polygon made it work better in this medium.

    • @jvfernandes
      @jvfernandes Před 4 lety +179

      It says "dramatic reading"

    • @albertgore7435
      @albertgore7435 Před 4 lety +170

      Oh god he’s trapped in that cassette, how do we free him?!

  • @SeigeGoat
    @SeigeGoat Před 2 lety +71

    As a RTS player this is terrifying (BECAUSE YOU CAN'T COLLECT RESOURCES :( )

  • @SCP--xi4xv
    @SCP--xi4xv Před rokem +163

    I love how the rest of the world is on a nuclear rampage and then there's Australia just vibin'
    As an Australian I am so glad we're an isolated island in the middle of nowhere

    • @Mobius_118
      @Mobius_118 Před rokem +4

      End of Ze World was suprisingly accurate in this regard.

    • @fish-from-hell5976
      @fish-from-hell5976 Před rokem +4

      There's a book about that called On The Beach, I recommend you read it.

    • @fish-from-hell5976
      @fish-from-hell5976 Před rokem +1

      @Alp Quite true

    • @wolfsfroth
      @wolfsfroth Před rokem +2

      Ya wasn’t the movie *Mad Max* all about that? ... should be fun

    • @chadfalkin6850
      @chadfalkin6850 Před rokem +1

      worry anyway, I think you have some american nuke bases so they'll aim for you too

  • @grandhierophantkhatep685
    @grandhierophantkhatep685 Před 4 lety +1903

    Polygon:”which castlevania monster is sexiest”
    Also Polygon:”nuclear war”

  • @Redawesomeoby
    @Redawesomeoby Před 4 lety +6418

    America: Defcon
    China: Plague inc
    Australia: Firewatch

  • @ebubeynj
    @ebubeynj Před rokem +15

    One other thing that ties this topic to Chernobyl is when the nuclear plant explodes the guy in charge does not believe that the core has been exposed. The podcast about the tv show explains that his reaction was because if the core of the nuclear plant had exploded that meant they were all dead. His natural survival instinct caused him to exclude that from the realm of possibility in his mind. Just like the people in the study who thought they would die. If it means certain death we think it is impossible to happen.

  • @normietwiceremoved
    @normietwiceremoved Před 2 lety +232

    Despite the horror of this, don't let this distract you from the fact that Mr krabs sold SpongeBobs soul for 62 cents.

  • @V1kN1k
    @V1kN1k Před 4 lety +22592

    Plague inc: who are you
    Defcon: I'm you but scarier
    *this has seriously not aged well*

    • @Zeus-ud2jl
      @Zeus-ud2jl Před 4 lety +764

      They're both pretty scary

    • @Shadow_Witch
      @Shadow_Witch Před 4 lety +2590

      @@Zeus-ud2jl I mean, Plague Inc isn't scary after you get the message ''JOE MAMA killed over 5 million people'''

    • @killerfishe5092
      @killerfishe5092 Před 4 lety +344

      @@Zeus-ud2jl yeah but plauge inc is more abstract

    • @Zeus-ud2jl
      @Zeus-ud2jl Před 4 lety +372

      @@Shadow_Witch lol yea but the atmosphere it gives and the noises it makes and you think this could happen

    • @Zeus-ud2jl
      @Zeus-ud2jl Před 4 lety +96

      @@killerfishe5092 still spooks me think it could happen

  • @SgtCrossHeals
    @SgtCrossHeals Před 3 lety +3897

    "That is what forgiveness sounds like: screaming and then silence."
    -A llama, probably

    • @wooblydooblygod3857
      @wooblydooblygod3857 Před 3 lety +98

      CAAAAAAAARL

    • @SteamCase
      @SteamCase Před 3 lety +88

      CAAAARRRLLL, why did you point all of Russia's nukes at the U.S.?

    • @papaahd7566
      @papaahd7566 Před 3 lety +33

      Caaarrrllllll why did you commit mass nuclear destruction

    • @ValcronGaming
      @ValcronGaming Před 3 lety +29

      @@papaahd7566 Hey, I said I was going green didn’t I. I wanted to help the environment.

    • @konradsmith7904
      @konradsmith7904 Před 3 lety +15

      Carl, why did you start WW3?

  • @ITRProductions
    @ITRProductions Před 2 lety +164

    This game aged well, and that's not a good thing at all.

  • @xeanderman6688
    @xeanderman6688 Před 2 měsíci +7

    You know what the worst part about DEFCON is?
    When the game ends and you're shown the scoreboard. There is no fanfare, there is no "You win!". There's just... Silence. There's just you, being shown what you have done

  • @thomasparkin259
    @thomasparkin259 Před 4 lety +1719

    Maybe playing DEFCON should be mandatory for politicians, just to hammer home the futility of nuclear warfare.

    • @silverish9081
      @silverish9081 Před 4 lety +273

      Considering how a lot of politicians are likely to be actual psychopaths, I don't think it will help much.

    • @ollycoyote
      @ollycoyote Před 4 lety +192

      You act as if politicians care about people

    • @pbonfanti
      @pbonfanti Před 4 lety +32

      Will not make any difference or they would not be politicians themselves.

    • @papabear6431
      @papabear6431 Před 4 lety +9

      I mean they probably know, and if they dont know about the consequences, 😂😂well we call them kim jong un

    • @tristantriton8115
      @tristantriton8115 Před 4 lety +13

      why play this game if they can slowly perform it in real life?

  • @crazywind3214
    @crazywind3214 Před 3 lety +2194

    Plague inc: I fear no man, but that thing
    *DEFCON*
    plague inc: *it scares me*

    • @MediHusky
      @MediHusky Před 3 lety +32

      *stares at madagascar in a cold sweat* Yea that's what I'm scared of.

    • @ImKevax
      @ImKevax Před 3 lety +40

      In plague inc, the humanity dies by a sickness
      In DEFECON, the humanity dies by a war

    • @pumpaplastao4222
      @pumpaplastao4222 Před 3 lety +6

      Defecon

    • @aegeanharrier6648
      @aegeanharrier6648 Před 3 lety +8

      @@ImKevax At least sickness dies alongside us in defcon. A nucler explosion is like sun on earth. I doubt anything survives that heat

    • @stiflash
      @stiflash Před 3 lety +10

      @@ImKevax *In DEFCON, humanity dies by it's own hand
      FTFY

  • @The31stcenturyfox
    @The31stcenturyfox Před 2 lety +17

    Only once did I come close to victory in this game. I was North America playing against a human driven South America. I had gotten lucky and eliminated his fleets and subs, his silos and one of his four airforce bases with very little losses on my side. I was trying damn hard to find the other three when he had a launched a full coordinated bomber swarm against new york. I scrambled my jets, my interceptors work marvelously , but no it wasn't enough. First nuke hit. 8.4 million dead popped up another hit shortly followed. No other hits landed, but I felt like I lost, even then. I always played as a fiercely survival based player. Sink their fleets. Down their bombers and stop their nukes, before they launch. Yet it never was enough. I'd always get hit, millions died. I would mop up the rest of that players bases and cities... but nobody ever wins in a nuclear war.

  • @SketchyLizord
    @SketchyLizord Před 2 lety +18

    sometimes I lay down in bed and imagine that split second where my house would be blown away, my skin melted, everything I've known and loved is extinct all before even hearing the boom of the explosion... just because a man in a suit wanted his way.
    What if that's happening right now? I want to believe I'll be able to get a warning, maybe survive... but would I really want to? Maybe it's best I'm oblivious when I die.
    It's a whole new kind of fear.

  • @mutantenderman2601
    @mutantenderman2601 Před 3 lety +5130

    "A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic" - Joseph Stalin

  • @bismarckfamily277
    @bismarckfamily277 Před 3 lety +4078

    I've counted every single nuke in defcon
    I think they're only around 650
    The world has more than 12.000 nukes

    • @finnlikesplanes7110
      @finnlikesplanes7110 Před 3 lety +198

      uh oh

    • @havvayokus3200
      @havvayokus3200 Před 2 lety +303

      the game is about cold war so ICBM's came out new in the cold war era

    • @carlredfield1693
      @carlredfield1693 Před 2 lety +36

      12?

    • @chalichaligha3234
      @chalichaligha3234 Před 2 lety +240

      @@carlredfield1693 In continental Europe, it is common for commas and periods to be swapped e.g: 10,000.1 (ten thousand point one) is written as 10.000,1

    • @MalikCarr
      @MalikCarr Před 2 lety +96

      The huge numbers - and it's far reduced from the height of the Cold War in the 80s - was a calculus between NATO and the Soviets that if the other side launched a pre-emptive strike most of the nuclear arsenal would be destroyed on the ground before it could launch. Therefore, even assuming you've lost the vast majority of your own nuclear weapons, you'd still theoretically have enough left to retaliate and destroy whoever attacked you. This acts as a deterrent against the other side launching that pre-emptive strike in the first place. Since no nuclear wars have started since, the theory works.

  • @JimmyJohnJahames
    @JimmyJohnJahames Před rokem +8

    you know the worst part could be just being inside the ISS and just watching the earth slowly light up as bright lights flash through the atmosphere and the earth slowly fading to a red/black color of what is now left

  • @MrOddlyFox
    @MrOddlyFox Před rokem +7

    A game I had waited a long time to play, ever since seeing WarGames as a child and learning the nuclear lesson.

  • @charlieshaw1512
    @charlieshaw1512 Před 3 lety +3309

    i love how Australia is just in the corner like *everything is fine*

    • @theslenderfox
      @theslenderfox Před 3 lety +120

      Everybody forgets Australia

    • @Ropetrick6
      @Ropetrick6 Před 3 lety +109

      @@theslenderfox Eh, the starvation will get them if the natural disasters and wildlife don' t get them first

    • @TheGPR101
      @TheGPR101 Před 3 lety +23

      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Beach_(novel)

    • @Ropetrick6
      @Ropetrick6 Před 3 lety +25

      @UCXidC8Cir-T8RRKheZ0CeHA I was talking about in case of a nuclear winter, but I can understand where the confusion comes from. Outside of a nuclear winter, you are entirely correct.

    • @revelaitons3959
      @revelaitons3959 Před 3 lety +33

      "So now we've got nuclear winter. Everyone's dead 'cept Australia and they're still like "WTF? ^^" But they'll be dead soon... F*ckin kangaroos..."

  • @redhen2470
    @redhen2470 Před 3 lety +3926

    "Peace is our Profession."
    "War is just a hobby"
    Strategic Air Command

    • @alexeyrodiontsev4978
      @alexeyrodiontsev4978 Před 3 lety +155

      "After us - silence".
      © Strategic Missile Forces

    • @akhaaneb9710
      @akhaaneb9710 Před 3 lety +69

      @@alexeyrodiontsev4978 well that's so much darker

    • @octo1894
      @octo1894 Před 3 lety +16

      I agree; more countries need to make nukes to enforce the peace against a certain belligerent going around bombing, invading and spreading coups

    • @ThatSlovakGuy
      @ThatSlovakGuy Před 3 lety +8

      Hotel is Trivago

    • @Pabloto-dq3sx
      @Pabloto-dq3sx Před 3 lety +2

      @Panzerkampfwagen VI ...deez

  • @minutemanthezealoustiger1499

    Russian Nuclear Motto: "After us, only silence."

  • @microraptorguyxu_et_al2431
    @microraptorguyxu_et_al2431 Před 2 lety +25

    Watching this video now makes it even more scarier and eerie

  • @needmorecontent6172
    @needmorecontent6172 Před 3 lety +4381

    " There are no winners of war, only survivors and even they die inside from guilt. They only physically survive to warn us. To warn us that there is nothing more terrible than what they have done. "-Jake Fulton

    • @grenadier6483
      @grenadier6483 Před 3 lety +73

      I'm 13 and this is deep...

    • @davidpanchev4465
      @davidpanchev4465 Před 3 lety +34

      You can't be more accurate than this

    • @BrutuxMusic
      @BrutuxMusic Před 3 lety +119

      @Deo That's some nice coolaid you're drinking, hoping the money put in the military aren't detracting in any way from your inalienable human rights. What's that? You must pay for an education? What's a health insurance?

    • @lingxiuhan1982
      @lingxiuhan1982 Před 3 lety +1

      Now we know, the Deep States and some rich houses are behind these wars. There is a reason you have to suffer so much. Don’t like it? No worry, they offer cannibalism and corruption, if you want to end your misery. Guess what, you will take it just like you let the all the things happened in 2020.

    • @TheBauwssss
      @TheBauwssss Před 3 lety +39

      "nothing more terrible that what they *were forced to do* " is more accurate I think. When one is unfortunate enough to find oneself on an active battlefield, fighting for survival, the only true choice is kill or be killed. It sends a chill down my spine just to think about that proposition, about having to indiscriminately and in cold blood take the life of another human being. Another man who might very well have a beautiful wife, not to mention children who will now never get to know their father simply because I believed my life to be more valuable. Another man who, if only times had been different, might even have become my best friend, possibly for life.
      War truly has no winners, but only pitiful losers, forced to kill indiscriminately and without question, only for the unlucky survivors to end up damaged, broke, lonely and forgotten; rotting away in a veterans home. To use an already horribly overused saying; war never determines who is right, only who is left.

  • @sebping7205
    @sebping7205 Před 3 lety +1923

    Interesting and quite fitting sentence: "Everybody loses, but somebody loses the least"

    • @VJFranzK
      @VJFranzK Před 3 lety +10

      If they are not more alive, how is that measurable? And how does it actually matter?

    • @ursosexmachina
      @ursosexmachina Před 3 lety +39

      @@VJFranzK Whoever dies last, wins.

    • @VJFranzK
      @VJFranzK Před 3 lety +46

      @@ursosexmachina We're not talking highschool football, or your FPS here. It's not really a win if there's no one left, friend or foe, to congratulate you.
      The real, grown-up concept of victory of the human species has been our survival.
      Survival of future generations isn't possible in a world contaminated by radiation. The "winners" might suffer in the longest, most terrible way.

    • @aryanbhuta3382
      @aryanbhuta3382 Před 3 lety +12

      @@VJFranzK More people are alive. If the US loses 100 million but Russia loses 150 million, the US has "won" the nuclear exchange.

    • @gabsleite5199
      @gabsleite5199 Před 3 lety +9

      So somebody wins, because losing less than others in any sport = winning, what matters is score compared to the others. Hahaha

  • @nicolaspinson8981
    @nicolaspinson8981 Před rokem +12

    The algorithm really playin with us 💀

  • @antoinelachapelle3405
    @antoinelachapelle3405 Před 2 lety +15

    The thing is... The point of war is that you expect that if you win, the outcome will be worth the sacrifice and the risk of defeat is valued against the value of that positive outcome
    Now nuclear war... Even if you were to win it, it's marginally better for you as a ruler to keep ruling your superpower country despite having strong rivals than ruling over a wasteland with no ressources no economy and cataclysmic level issues no one ever had to deal with before
    MAD does work I think

  • @kiri4186
    @kiri4186 Před 4 lety +2850

    "Somebody has to win" scares me.

    • @domersftw1503
      @domersftw1503 Před 3 lety +8

      100th like

    • @Woodledude
      @Woodledude Před 3 lety +72

      What does winning mean when there's so little left?
      I wonder if they'll care. Because the only alternative is losing. Right?

    • @nothingbutlove4886
      @nothingbutlove4886 Před 3 lety +18

      @@jh9981 Because that is the mentality of countries but in this scenario nobody wins

    • @ArchTazer
      @ArchTazer Před 3 lety +4

      @@Woodledude I imagine the situation as a situation you shouldn't really think about. If a country would attack you, you have to strike back and everyone loses. period. However, if you think about it, if the enemy already launched the missiles, you can't. Someone has to live, even if it means you don't.

    • @GunShocka
      @GunShocka Před 3 lety +2

      Sombody has to win....but no one is willing to give up

  • @texan_commando
    @texan_commando Před 3 lety +2676

    "The things that's more terrifying than someone who wants to win, is someone who doesn't want to lose..."

    • @monad_tcp
      @monad_tcp Před 3 lety +56

      the only ever 2 bombs used was for that reason, its really terrifying. how you fight something who is not afraid of dying, they will never lose. it was really useful we had a thing to really put fear in their hearths (and it took 2, when only one should have sufficed, that level of not wanting to lose...).
      I would totally chose that option if I were in the same place, who wouldn't ? two splashes and it ended the war.
      people like to talk about the cost of lives, but with that enemy, nothing would stop it, that probably saved more lives than the never-ending thousand year war.
      The other option would be surrender, good luck with that, the imperator would just kill you, because of their moral code that punish deserters, and you deserted your country (an enemy of the enemy is not an ally), so you must die too , not to mention horrific things that would make literal hitler puke.

    • @brian14021994
      @brian14021994 Před 3 lety +87

      @@monad_tcp if they didn't use nuclear weapons, the war in Japan would've extended by a few years, but the outcome would've been the same. Some argue that if they killed the god-emperor of Japan, they would've surrendered. Either way, nuking 2 cities like that, killing over 200k citizens...it's unforgiveable.

    • @duncanmcgee13
      @duncanmcgee13 Před 3 lety +38

      @@brian14021994 so youd rather them invade and risk killing millions more than the nukes would have?

    • @coregontrail3481
      @coregontrail3481 Před 3 lety +126

      What’s more terrifying than someone who doesn’t want to lose, is someone who doesn’t care if they do, as long as you don’t win.

    • @duncanmcgee13
      @duncanmcgee13 Před 3 lety +17

      @@coregontrail3481 and thats why N.Korea having nukes has the world on edge

  • @maracachucho8701
    @maracachucho8701 Před rokem +10

    I can see my younger self playing this game psychopathically trying to wipe out as many humans as possible. I feel like I now understand why most people in a position of power tend to be on the older side.

  • @user-qx4bw1pv8u
    @user-qx4bw1pv8u Před 2 lety +6

    2020 year: Plague inc IRL
    2022 year: DEFCON IRL

  • @sirdurtle9519
    @sirdurtle9519 Před 3 lety +1472

    0:50 Actually, DEFCON 1 is like every finger and usable appendage mashing as many big red buttons as possible

  • @cmd31220
    @cmd31220 Před 3 lety +4376

    I love Defcon. The thing that shocked me the most about the AI in the game is that if you try to play "realistically", where the goal is hitting military targets instead of just taking out major cities, you get completely destroyed almost every time. It's like they purposefully designed the game to say "no, a nuclear war can only be won through mass murder.....so don't freaking do it"

    • @atigerclaw
      @atigerclaw Před 2 lety +117

      Hitting cities _is_ realistic in nuclear war. Industrialized warfare is dependent on manpower and production. You hit cities, you destroy factories, obliterate shipyards, kill off skilled workers, and their families... You're not just winning a war by defeating the enemy's existing forces and driving them back. You're destroying a population's ability to even _participate_ in anything even remotely approaching industrialized warfare for *generations*. Escalating to DEFCON 1 is All or Nothing. If you don't have the gumption to take a deep breath, and push the button, and make the opposition pay in equal blood to what they just launched on you,? Then you die. And nobody will be around to care since the only thing you're really doing is that the other guy is just as crippled as to have to spend just as much time as you to rebuild society.
      It's PURE retaliation logic. And it helps manage MAD by the concept that even if we know we're going to die, we're vindictive enough to take the other side with us.
      DEFCON operates on the simple assumption that for whatever reason, MAD has broken down, nations are on the edge, and the time for 'limited' warfare has passed you like a Porsche going the other way.
      It IS possible to actually... WIN a game of DEFCON. When I say win, I MEAN win. No losses of population. I've done it precisely once. It required some pretty fine-tuned management of your silos swapping from ABM and Silo mode and a little bit of praying to RNGeezus that the enemy nations distributed their ICBM launches juuuuuust right.

    • @ShawnJonesHellion
      @ShawnJonesHellion Před 2 lety +53

      why mass murder the ai if the point of the game is seeing they have been attacking you all along an you are their god

    • @garygrant91
      @garygrant91 Před 2 lety +304

      Realistically, limiting targeting to only military assets could only work if you made a preemptive strike during DEFCON 5 or 4 on New Year's Eve when everyone is drunk. You might have some success at DEFCON 3 but you are still going to be hurt bad. At DEFCON 2 or 1 you will be hitting empty silos (their counter strike will be in the air, headed towards you) or conventional units which pose no threat to you. All that assumes that you launch first.
      If you are reacting to their launch, your only choice is to do nothing in the hopes that they survive or you can ensure that they burn with you.

    • @John_winston
      @John_winston Před 2 lety +39

      @@atigerclaw The winning with population intact sounds very interesting,is there any video or step to step to do it ?

    • @atigerclaw
      @atigerclaw Před 2 lety +144

      @@jamesbrendan5170
      There isn't. Like I said, I did it precisely once and I'm pretty sure I couldn't duplicate it on demand because it requires both crazy-good handling of when and where you switch your silos, and a good chunk of RNGeezus. Who shoots at who at what time and how much so as not to overwhelm your defenses. I'd think of it more like winning a card game. There's skill involved, but it comes down to what you're dealt.

  • @eve_squared
    @eve_squared Před 2 lety +6

    The fact that this is getting recommended to me again is not very comforting.

  • @Iku00
    @Iku00 Před 2 lety +20

    CZcams, you seriously recommending this to us in a time where nuclear war is genuinely the closest it has been to happening since the cold war?

  • @declanvanarkel9094
    @declanvanarkel9094 Před 4 lety +1912

    Safe to see that us Australians are safe from total nuclear annihilation

    • @XxExCaLiBuRrXx
      @XxExCaLiBuRrXx Před 4 lety +430

      Declan Van Arkel they left you guys out because you already got terrifying animals that’s worse than even the nukes

    • @qas2644
      @qas2644 Před 4 lety +103

      Come on your country loses to your own national animals....pretty sure you're no threat to the world yet lol(this a joke btw)

    • @declanvanarkel9094
      @declanvanarkel9094 Před 4 lety +28

      Omega Storm ahaha I can’t argue with you there

    • @bigberther7368
      @bigberther7368 Před 4 lety +19

      Incoming fallout for us Aussies.

    • @adisappointedfbiagent449
      @adisappointedfbiagent449 Před 4 lety +63

      That's because the nukes just go to space rather then hit Australia because everything is upside-down.

  • @ZvZd
    @ZvZd Před 3 lety +2847

    During the Cold War, the Soviet Nuclear Forces unofficial moto was "После нас - тишина" ("After us - silence")

  • @irish7460
    @irish7460 Před 2 lety +4

    For people wondering, the US is currently estimated to be at defcon 3. Estimated using open source intellignece or OSINT.

  • @khathecleric
    @khathecleric Před 2 lety +48

    I played this game and was convinced that nuclear war was certain, only because someone would lose less and a dictator can stomach such losses.
    And then Putin decided to prove me right

    • @kovenmaitreya7184
      @kovenmaitreya7184 Před 2 lety +2

      Yup listening to him say that and listening to the Gulag Archipelago..... I'm terrified rn

    • @alley4978
      @alley4978 Před 2 lety

      Yeah, and a relic of cold war in charge of USA in 21th century has nothing to do with it

  • @casual_ice_consumer4148
    @casual_ice_consumer4148 Před 4 lety +2502

    4:02 "A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic."
    -Joseph Stalin

    • @cyberpop1850
      @cyberpop1850 Před 4 lety +271

      You know he never actually said that, a fictional depiction of Stalin said it,
      Never trust quotes or witty sayings.

    • @yeetusdeleteus1305
      @yeetusdeleteus1305 Před 4 lety +92

      Cyber Pop while you are technically correct in saying that, it is still disputed whether he said it, as a columnist in 1947 did attribute that quote to Stalin in a meeting with his commissars.

    • @rockie4077
      @rockie4077 Před 4 lety +33

      @@yeetusdeleteus1305 I wouldn't say that exactly because it is a phrase that has been used multiple times dating back to 1759

    • @yes98272
      @yes98272 Před 4 lety +7

      Rockie Technically that isn’t theoretically a valid statement according to the proclamation of youtube back in 1529 therefore making thus making this quote impossible to human civilization

    • @formaltortoise6966
      @formaltortoise6966 Před 4 lety +1

      STONKS

  • @zolikoff
    @zolikoff Před 4 lety +1167

    - How tough am I? I played this game DEFCON.
    - Yeah so?
    - Without getting scared.
    - ... Right this way

    • @echo12345ish
      @echo12345ish Před 4 lety +10

      So does that mean that Sandy would be the first person to send off nukes?

    • @Thlormby
      @Thlormby Před 4 lety +14

      The game isn’t even that scary. It’s actually great. Polygon reporters are just overdramatic

    • @zolikoff
      @zolikoff Před 4 lety

      I mean actually it's not scary at all, I know.

    • @pouzivateljutube2995
      @pouzivateljutube2995 Před 4 lety +1

      That's the point. The scarry thing is that the game isn't scarry.

    • @Thlormby
      @Thlormby Před 4 lety +5

      Používaťeľ JUtUbe no, it’s not the point. It’s just a fun strategy game where you launch nuclear missiles at each other. Everyone tries way too hard to get internet points by being a pseudo intellectual.

  • @user-sd8ux3vz3v
    @user-sd8ux3vz3v Před 2 lety +7

    This video ages well

  • @tortl9720
    @tortl9720 Před rokem +4

    everyone playing defcon: this game is so scary and has deep meaning....
    me playing defcon: hahahaha cool nukes go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

  • @shaftoe195
    @shaftoe195 Před 3 lety +2038

    Plague Inc: _What... what are you?*_
    DEFCON: _The end. _*_Of the world._*

    • @eco1969
      @eco1969 Před 3 lety +92

      the plague just kills humans, defcon kills life itself

    • @TheWulf899
      @TheWulf899 Před 3 lety +21

      Except Australia, we're fine down here

    • @CarlosRuiz20
      @CarlosRuiz20 Před 3 lety +36

      @@TheWulf899 until nuclear winter begins...

    • @edwintrinidadperazacaraban4650
      @edwintrinidadperazacaraban4650 Před 3 lety +21

      @@CarlosRuiz20 thats right if fallaout teach something: "if the bo,b dont kill you the secondary effects will do it"

    • @agente7202
      @agente7202 Před 3 lety +7

      Imagine if they make second game mode where you...yes you become the UN leader (United Nations) and prevent the world from killing itself
      *Dictator gamemode:Can you destroy the world?*
      *Humanity last hope gamemode: Can you save the world?*

  • @Tobascodagama
    @Tobascodagama Před 4 lety +1092

    The subtle coughing and crying in the soundtrack is just so unbelievably perfect.

  • @froogsleegs
    @froogsleegs Před 2 lety +7

    the implication is that simply allowing nations to have nuclear weapons leads to a perpetually escalating arms race, and someone will eventually, inevitably use it. on a long enough timeline, as long as nuclear weapons exist, this is almost certain

  • @friedrichderhohevonweedman6093

    Just looking at the game screen with all those missiles flying and "Launch Detected" popping up over and over all over the world is on it's own one of the most horrifying things I ever saw.

  • @nick8670
    @nick8670 Před 4 lety +4561

    this is kinda like plegue inc. but nukes

    • @SuperHperTube
      @SuperHperTube Před 4 lety +138

      Plague*

    • @ravtail2781
      @ravtail2781 Před 4 lety +11

      Exactly

    • @Saint_Wolf_
      @Saint_Wolf_ Před 4 lety +180

      In Plague Inc there's no fight, and you're just a bacteria trying to follow the circle of life but here it's actual humans cassuing mass deaths of one another through vaporizing each other's flesh

    • @jj.jayjay.
      @jj.jayjay. Před 4 lety +43

      @@Saint_Wolf_ Plague Inc Is Also Mass Human deaths If You win You Kill Every Single Human

    • @Saint_Wolf_
      @Saint_Wolf_ Před 4 lety +36

      @@jj.jayjay. Sure but in terms of how things work, one is just a bacteria/virus, here's the progress of technology halting itself through its own makers.

  • @zildiun2327
    @zildiun2327 Před 3 lety +2129

    “Peace was never an option.”
    -Some goose from a meme

  • @zenogodofeverything3519
    @zenogodofeverything3519 Před 2 lety +9

    I think it's just a lesson for people that are older to understand that it's okay to be afraid

  • @Quantum_Bluntz
    @Quantum_Bluntz Před rokem +15

    The interesting thing about this game is that the player doesn't actually die, the people in the game do. It's almost like the "player" is an alien controlling and playing with humans to destroy the world.

    • @navy3001
      @navy3001 Před rokem +11

      The game says your a general in a undergound bunker, safe from the nukes

  • @curiousteddie
    @curiousteddie Před 4 lety +1821

    Polygon: come for the funny stuff and stay for the existential dread! I guess I've got a new game on my list now

  • @SSFFRRJJ
    @SSFFRRJJ Před 3 lety +3365

    Defcon : We Made such a unreal and scary Game..
    *Stanislav Petrov : Hold my vodka*

    • @MrBlack75922
      @MrBlack75922 Před 3 lety +142

      The man that save the world

    • @NiketasIgnatius
      @NiketasIgnatius Před 3 lety +523

      For those who don't understand: This is the person who played a key role during 1983 Soviet nuclear false alarm incident and did not press the retaliatory attack button because he decided that was impossible and it was a failure of the warning system (he was right). Thus, he violated military protocol, but saved the world from nuclear war.

    • @agente7202
      @agente7202 Před 3 lety +109

      He is... Saviour of humanity...

    • @alexeyrodiontsev4978
      @alexeyrodiontsev4978 Před 3 lety +230

      @@NiketasIgnatius Petrov's story is largely inflated by journalists.
      In fact, he did not have any "retaliatory attack button". Petrov was the operational officer on duty at the Command Center of the OKO (ICBM launch detection satellite system), which was only one part of the Soviet missile attack warning system. And he only had to confirm (or not confirm) to his superiors the missile launch warning, received from his system. The final decision about the validity of the launch was made by the 820th Main Missile Attack Warning Center - basing on the analysis of all data from all USSR missile attack warning systems (including early warning radar network).
      In 1983, while Petrov was on duty, the automatic part of the OKO generated a launch warning: "one ICBM launch from the territory of the USA", and then three more launch warnings. The 820th Center, which automatically received this information, demanded confirmation from Petrov. The "manual" part of the OKO system (visual control operators at OKO Command Center) did not confirm the launches. Flares from engines of flying ICBMs were also not detected. Accordingly, Petrov did not confirm the launches and reported about a false triggering of the OKO system.
      Moreover, the OKO system at that time, although it was put into service in 1982, was considered unreliable. So, the data from it was initially considered as "confirmation required".

    • @Gustav_Kuriga
      @Gustav_Kuriga Před 3 lety +82

      @Hatwox Because human beings have this need to create and exaggerate stories to make individuals heroic. No one wants to talk about a well-designed system working as intended. But a person going against the system to heroically save the day? Oh people will eat that up regardless of how close or far from reality it actually is. Look back at all the various exaggerated war stories of individual soldiers or commanders "going against orders" or otherwise bucking the system to "save the day".

  • @isbestlizard
    @isbestlizard Před 2 lety +4

    I'd *love* a realistic nuclear war simulator. Like, you get a launch detection, but no idea where it's heading until your radar has calculated its freefall ballistic trajectory during it's terminal phase, so the first half of its flight, you're left in the dark. Thousands of weapons, interceptors, MIRVs, decoys, tactical weapons, counter force/value, first and second strikes, decapitations, loss of command and control, it'd be so COOL

    • @zekeyeager6444
      @zekeyeager6444 Před 2 lety

      i would love to see that

    • @TDOPB
      @TDOPB Před 7 měsíci

      @@zekeyeager6444 Check out Espiocracy (comes out in 2024) - I don't know if it'll go super in depth with the actual nuking (It probably will though), but it's an awesome spy game and it WILL have nuclear war - And assuming some of your agents survive, you can even keep kicking and screaming after the exchange ends. In fact, the nuclear war will be less "Nuclear war" and more cold war era sabre rattling (with a chance of nuclear war if a LOT of mistakes are made), so it'll be even more realistic than what isbestlizard wants.

    • @TDOPB
      @TDOPB Před 7 měsíci

      Check out Espiocracy. I go more in depth in my reply to the other commenter on your comment, so feel free to read it.

  • @jasonmcfarland3539
    @jasonmcfarland3539 Před 2 lety +3

    I stumbled into this game and it really does make you feel pessimistic.You don't hear anything, no alarms, no booms, no talking just the sounds of the computer and its alerts with people muttering every so often in the back ground as you watch nukes fly and say you killed 10 million people in a city.

  • @epictetuskrakowski2070
    @epictetuskrakowski2070 Před 3 lety +3641

    America: Defcon
    China: Plague inc
    Australia: Firewatch
    Hotel: Trivago

    • @SilentFox.
      @SilentFox. Před 3 lety +35

      Underrated comment

    • @OTSCasper
      @OTSCasper Před 3 lety +17

      done before but still funny

    • @yuuko6993
      @yuuko6993 Před 3 lety +15

      @@SilentFox. overdone joke

    • @entityxkid244
      @entityxkid244 Před 3 lety +25

      Meh. cut him some slack guys. Everyone needs some likes every once in a while.

    • @ZOCCOK
      @ZOCCOK Před 3 lety +14

      @@entityxkid244 sure, but that did make me smile. That's a well deserved like

  • @possiblepsychopath6459
    @possiblepsychopath6459 Před 4 lety +1576

    chess on steroids

    • @dickywicaksono4171
      @dickywicaksono4171 Před 4 lety +12

      This is should be top comment 😂👌

    • @apexwar_
      @apexwar_ Před 4 lety +5

      Ironically, check this out, some sort of Chess+Defcon hybrid
      czcams.com/video/Ecy5QYPOLtA/video.html

    • @Nebulous_Neuhaus
      @Nebulous_Neuhaus Před 4 lety +1

      Xanatos Speed Chess

    • @thenuggernaut9084
      @thenuggernaut9084 Před 4 lety +6

      Chess on sleep paralysis

    • @bobbodaskank
      @bobbodaskank Před 4 lety +5

      Chess with a minor change in rules where any piece can take any other piece on the board from any position on the board along with all adjacent pieces, and every piece on the board moves simultaneously.

  • @PT-91_Twardy
    @PT-91_Twardy Před 2 lety +6

    Scary how close we are to our lives turning into a statistic in a DEFCON game.

  • @snkfan7506
    @snkfan7506 Před rokem +1

    Bought this game many years ago and still have it on my shelf. It did make me think of Wargames and it was absolutely chilling to think about the prospects of a real nuclear war.

  • @Random22
    @Random22 Před 4 lety +1040

    Scientists: We have positive proof that video games actually *stop* violence!
    The media:
    *NO.*

    • @georgetsoukalas1409
      @georgetsoukalas1409 Před 4 lety +57

      @@Unknown_Genius if a guy needs to play some call of duty to go out and shoot people, he is already crazy. It is not the games fault. He would have commited the crime sooner or later. Bullying, child abuse, and mental health issues are what causes school shootings (and the reasons for other kinds of violent acts are also similar), but the media tend to ignore that sadly.

    • @georgetsoukalas1409
      @georgetsoukalas1409 Před 4 lety +25

      @@Unknown_Genius No I actually read your comment. And I was not even arguing with you. What I meant was, that games do not affect ones mind directly (unlike bullying and child abuse) and causing people to act violently. Yeah you might end up getting angry after losing in LOL, but that applies to any sport or real life game that requires effort to achieve something. Everything affects our actions one way or another, but not everything can be called a primary cause for ones actions.

    • @ocdmodernwarfare2049
      @ocdmodernwarfare2049 Před 4 lety +1

      ...
      watch the video, or you know, have a less polerialized thinking?

    • @okplay9446
      @okplay9446 Před 4 lety +7

      @@Unknown_Genius Some games do make you more tolerant to violence but that doesn't mean the player is more likely to commit a violent act. I think it entirely depends on the person and if you do exert violence then something wasn't right from before you started playing video games.

    • @simulping4371
      @simulping4371 Před 4 lety

      @@georgetsoukalas1409 I saw a news a while back where a teenager went out to stole his mom's car and shooting a gun thinking he was playing gta 5..

  • @acidsugarz
    @acidsugarz Před 2 lety +3301

    2 years ago: Oh wow, this is a cool yet terrifying game!
    2022: ........

  • @jenzelarevalo1086
    @jenzelarevalo1086 Před rokem +5

    I just watched a documentary about the Japanese survivors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. So freaking horrific and disturbing this carnage two nuclear bombs had caused. People’s skins were peeling and people were rotting alive due to radiation. The gameplay was super hard to watch after seeing that documentary

  • @user-mk7zb5xy2y
    @user-mk7zb5xy2y Před rokem +5

    and then comes 2022

  • @TheSlayerV1
    @TheSlayerV1 Před 4 lety +708

    Polygon: Defcon is terrifying because of nuclear annihilation.
    Me: Launches a nuke back at that bastard Gandhi in Civ V

    • @andycheng4436
      @andycheng4436 Před 4 lety +30

      AI: wants uranium
      also AI: 3 gold/turn. take it or leave it.

  • @TheBurg229
    @TheBurg229 Před 4 lety +1667

    Worldwide delivery in 30 minutes or less, or your next one is free!

  • @AgentAbel
    @AgentAbel Před rokem +10

    Who's here because of current world events?

  • @GabrielLittle
    @GabrielLittle Před 3 měsíci

    This is a super interesting video. Really well made and analyzed

  • @SimplyTheWorst
    @SimplyTheWorst Před 3 lety +2676

    "nobody wins"
    **ahem** switzerland.

    • @x3k258
      @x3k258 Před 3 lety +19

      Lmao

    • @sweden7675
      @sweden7675 Před 3 lety +323

      They actually have enough bunkers to fit their whole population, so they really could. Good luck colonizing and rebuilding the whole world though.

    • @ONESHOT92E
      @ONESHOT92E Před 3 lety +86

      Nope ,a year after they also die once food and water in the bunker ends and thirst drives everyone out to drink radioactive contaminated water then the cough ,cough gets real ...it is called acute leukemia ...

    • @fsands69
      @fsands69 Před 3 lety +31

      if switzerland is coughing that's covid
      *dies*

    • @SimplyTheWorst
      @SimplyTheWorst Před 3 lety +6

      @@fsands69 ok i will edit it

  • @ottovonweaboo6355
    @ottovonweaboo6355 Před 4 lety +1193

    This whole concept is so damn scary.... reminds me of the Russian strategic missile forces moto
    ¨ _After us... silence_ ¨

    • @PhillyBoyBcn
      @PhillyBoyBcn Před 4 lety +75

      OttoVonWeaboo how about Putin’s very frank declaration that “Why would we [Russians] need a world if there’s no more Russia in it?”

    • @Psydvckthefirst
      @Psydvckthefirst Před 4 lety +48

      @@PhillyBoyBcn Well from Russian point of view it's pretty clear lol. Why would Russians need the world without home?

    • @admiralprince7925
      @admiralprince7925 Před 4 lety +30

      Welcome to reality
      The scariest game to date

    • @magpineapple
      @magpineapple Před 4 lety +20

      a bunch of creatures with sentience grouping together, ending millions of lives for the feeling of power

    • @Sidewinder627
      @Sidewinder627 Před 4 lety +6

      OttoVonWeaboo Woah, strong motto that one

  • @jacksonbruce2386
    @jacksonbruce2386 Před 2 lety +5

    Remember kids it's not a red button It's two keys 21 ft apart that are spring loaded that you have to hold for two seconds.

  • @Quesadla
    @Quesadla Před 2 lety +2

    Well, Here we are. The DEFCON countdown has started.

  • @CommanderTornado
    @CommanderTornado Před 4 lety +2177

    This game is scary for the same reason the nuke cutscene in MW1 was so emotional and why people find The SCP Foundation so compelling. It's clinical, detached, and absolutely heartless. It describes complete evil in a way that makes it seem like one entry in a gigantic spreadsheet of genocidal tragedies and horrors. The implied existence of that list is what horrifies people so much.
    In MW1, your character died alongside an entire city's worth of civilians, whose deaths went unremarked upon. The Foundation in SCP lore commonly does things so completely detached from morality and ethics on a daily basis that seeing this in one article among literal thousands tells you that there could be (and is) far worse somewhere in that huge list of articles. DEFCON reduces millions to statistics, and shows them to you with a small and manageable number of digits. Millions compressed into megadeaths, billions into the low tens and hundreds of megadeaths.
    Excellent video for an excellent game.

    • @ecardenas814
      @ecardenas814 Před 3 lety +10

      You just wrote a whole essay in a comment

    • @mrringneckbirb3556
      @mrringneckbirb3556 Před 3 lety +4

      The SCP foundation focuses on mainly containing anomolies

    • @crapposter8201
      @crapposter8201 Před 3 lety +9

      @@cibo889 The Foundation's purpose in SCPverse is to preserve normalcy, though, not to preserve humanity. If they have to choose between upkeeping the Veil by killing all slightly-changed-by-anomalous-stuff humans and replacing them with normal human clones or not doing that, they'd choose former.

    • @dankmemerino1473
      @dankmemerino1473 Před 3 lety +4

      *executes 110-Montauk

    • @ashadeofblue6815
      @ashadeofblue6815 Před 3 lety +2

      @@dankmemerino1473 the process of reading a history to a lady while making it sound incredible scary to others?

  • @lillyie
    @lillyie Před 3 lety +745

    DEFCON: *Exists*
    Australia: maybe if i stand still, they won't nuke me

    • @josephortega6080
      @josephortega6080 Před 3 lety +7

      Underrated

    • @cuppajoe2
      @cuppajoe2 Před 3 lety +26

      And it works...

    • @nxibba
      @nxibba Před 3 lety +17

      if you wrote "they won't notice me" instead of that it would ve been funnier

    • @useroftheinternet8362
      @useroftheinternet8362 Před 3 lety +57

      Not until emus get the knowledge of nuclear weaponry

    • @hiddencatpaws
      @hiddencatpaws Před 3 lety +25

      @@useroftheinternet8362 we’ve already had a war with the damn birds, don’t give them any ideas

  • @kaigomez7237
    @kaigomez7237 Před 2 lety +4

    looks like we bout to be playing this game in real life soon...

  • @twentydixoncider7443
    @twentydixoncider7443 Před rokem +4

    I think the idea of mutual destruction is enough to keep people in line cause no matter how right you are that doesn't matter if you and your entire family is turned to ashes. Shits still pretty scary to think about though.