MEN'S ADVOCATES?: Rules of Modern Dating & Understanding Women "It's Complicated"
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This was a very good video and it speaks heavily on the issue that is the “red pill” space. I personally stopped consuming content from many creators due to their focus on Body Counts, pyramid schemes, and emotional rants to 304s that don’t care, rather than Men actually banning together to change policy that benefits the collective. Very superficial.
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On the topic of marriage, men do NOT benefit from marriage. It’s essentially a contract where the other party can be rewarded if they break it. You don’t have to be a businessman to know you should never sign a contract like that. It’s a bad deal.
Men may not need a marriage to be whole, unlike women. But my community lacks marriages and as a result, crime is up and property values are down.
if you are a man getting married in the current day, i have 50 acres of land on the moon to sell you.
If you actually have money and a forward facing job on linked in or other such platforms. You can definitely see how beneficial it is to have a title as chief engineer and married. Marriage definitely opens doorways in corporate America and your wife could lose everything if she files because people wouldn't respect her as much depending on how your divorce goes. There's a reason why these rich men choose to marry again and again. They aren't rich and stupid, they could easily have tons of 20yr old girls on retainer, but thats not financially viable nor intelligent.
There _was_ , _has been_ , a couple of benefits to marriage for men, but there isn't anymore. It's essentially one benefit but it acts at the individual level and at the societal level.
Marriage allows for most men to find a mate, on an individual level that gives men purpose, but on a societal value, that stabilizes society. Currently the incel issue is that stability effectively going away, slowly but surely. When that gets worse, we're talking rebellions, more sh**tings, etc. That's the instability showing, and it will get worse if not dealt with in a reasonable way.
@@lonewaer I believe I see your point. I never really thought about it in such a way and it’s given me something new to think about when it comes to the topic. It’s just that every time I look at statistics, it’s always something like a 50/50 chance the marriage ends in divorce. And when it does happen, the man, the average Joe, is financially devastated by it, sometimes mentally and emotionally depending on the circumstances like if there’s children involved. It’s not a secret or a conspiracy theory that women win most of the custody battles. It’s just something seen all the time everywhere whether it be IRL or on social media. It happens so many times to where I gotta question if marriage is even worth a damn anymore. Me, personally, I most likely refuse to marry till marriage laws change or I found a woman I stick with for years and proven to me that she won’t leave me at the first sign of a problem.
Back in the day a high value man was considered a man with high values
Blue Pill = Beautiful Lie
Red Pill = Ugly Truth
Blue pill = Bless in ignorance
Preach.
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And Red Pill = pain and anger.
The insights from the red pill have helped me tremendously. Female nature has never been so unregulated- that's why rp is growing.
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Just because it wasn't termed doesn't mean it didn't exist. RP has been existing. I see it with the older men in my life.
Rp is just recollecting the knowledge that was common preww1. And yeah, women are taught to embrace their instincts and not self regulate, results are predictable.
@@hitandruncommentor men have been "embracing their insticts" and not self-regulating for centuries, it has become a problem now because women are starting to do it?
@@ema6377In what way would you say that has been happening?
I loved the way the guy at the end broke things down. You could see he was actually giving serious thought to thus issue and his conclusions are the same as mine.
The women (on the channel) can't even come close to his level of thinking lmao
Because it doesn't benefit them.@@betterjustice6697
His reply at the very end is the core of mgtow. They are distinct from the other men's groups by the way they recognize the a need to cease catering to women, or tying their life and existence to women at all. You can be a hermit or even partake in dating culture, but are mgtow by the stark motivation for independence and lack of ties.
He definently had an epithany
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Men want love. Women want things
Gross generalization
Idk about that... if men are looking for love from a women they looking for the wrong thing... it shouldnt be based on emotion like that imo
Men want respect, women can't love a man they never respect. That is the problem, dudes need to get in their head if a woman doesn't respect a man ever and or stops respecting the guy she stopped loving him at all. Respect comes first then love comes second from a woman every single time no matter what
Men want spawn, Women want, investment.
Once you’ve heard all the arguments once that’s all you need.
True the manosphere is like coming in to class everyday and reading chapter 1 over and over again
I never listened to or followed Pearl, Andrew Tate or Fresh and Fit. But I am glad you are now hearing men getting their side of the story out.
I feel that it was a pushback from the over correction that came with modern feminism and cultural marxism. and it felt louder than ever due to pandemic times and whatnot. many eyes and ears were more open an available.
The real people who care within the manosphere you never hear about.
I don't think you know what FnF and the Tates are about. But you did say you never listened to them.
No one wants to hear men whining. The videos of that are unpopular. That's why creators don't do it
Please don't listen to those three. They're not good representatives of the manosphere. Rollo tomosii, Aaron clarey, a few others are better, which is why they're less popular.
We need to be careful for channels that ask money especially women who claim to be pro men. They are almost always grifters.
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🤣🤣🤣Some of y’all act like they’re putting a gunn to your head taking your money lol. You know if you stop watching their videos they won’t get your money right?? If you see they are grifters, don’t watch lol. A lot of people love to hate the RP and still tune in to hate watch the RP channels, it’s sad 😂😂😂like go get some help
@@zaq1337 so true, I'm so sick of hearing grifter it's ridiculous. Wonder why people don't run in to McDonald's, Starbucks, etc. and call them grifters every time they run ads asking for money
Yetis riding unicorns.
The guy at the end started like Forest Gump but ended like Albert Einstein.
👀 Myron always explains you become high value to have options & not tolerate BS from the opposite gender
People hear what they want bro
The flaw in Myron's reasoning is that it's a *Quantity over Quality* solution when what we have is a quality problem/shortage... See, it's pointless to build yourself up just to gain access to a larger QUANTITY of options of the same poison (poisonous QUALITY of women).
Basically, *Myron's reasoning for men to level up to be HVM doesn't fix hoe-flation (which is essentially a QUALITY problem)...* His logic makes sense only if you have a marketplace/dating pool with many good quality marriageable options. Unfortunately, the marketplace is filled with more modern independent gynocentric women than traditional family oriented women, so becoming high value is pointless as a solution if the pool of women is still going to be women with the same modern feminist mindset.
A lot of betas and $imp$ don’t get it lol. They all jump in the hate bandwagon because they think it makes them cool to hate those channels/ people 🤣🤣🤣they hate the RP but continue to watch RP channels 😂😂😂sad af
@@MylezNevison “, so becoming high value is pointless” 👀👀👀you don’t want to be high value for yourself??
@@zaq1337😂
If there is one thing I can appreciate about men it's the ability to go against the grain. This is a plus and minus at the same time. When men get asked a question we can be honest with the answer regardless of how bias we are towards the topic, however this makes whatever is happening easily broken down. You would never and I mean never see a feminist or a girl's channel push back against certain narratives . In their eyes any opposition would affect the movement but with men we often are the first one to stand against our own benefit for truth and what's right.
That's because a lot of women lack integrity and morals
Women try to find the truth by purification of others' opinions through consensus. Men try to find the truth by disagreement and altercation. The former is cultish while the latter is scientific.
@@isaacott3230This is great, thanks you even wrote this masterpiece of a Shakespeare
@@mrghostly1118 I wrote it, and it is definitely not Shakespeare haha! Just true..
I don't see the "minus" part
some are a grift some are a gift
I keep saying that the core issues are related to inequality. A males and female roles are not equal, a mans role is much harder, but we pretend its worse for woman cuz they are allowed to cry making it seem as if they are worse off.
Until both parties benefit equally then there is no incentive to engage in relationships and adult media will thrive. Please use free prawn instead of OF.
Oh, so we have given women more rights than men in family, law, education, spaces, and many more, for over a century, and now we pull up the ladder when men want equality. MRAs argue for equality under the law. You set a dangerous precedent for your future son's friend.
Exactly like I understand that my role as a man is harder. It’s the lack of respect nowadays that makes me want to say eff it, and do my own thing.
@@SlickZero1028 I dont care that much for respect when i might have to risk my life for a woman, no thanks, i like living. If our role is harder we shouldnt get more respect, we should be getting equal compensation.
@@zukodude487987 Equal compensation is what I meant by getting respect.
@@SlickZero1028 That is not equal compensation just like getting a "thank you" from your boss at work is not fair compensation".
Thank you for starting to push back a little bit on the manosphere. there are MANY grifters in this part of the internet. Your one of the best and the fact that you even ask these questions just shows what kind of channel you run. Good luck bro!
The manosphere is great, why not complain about feminist.
Because they want your money just like Onlyfans girls.@@jutsu1
@@jutsu1 Because not being critical of yourself makes you a douche you should always call out bad people on your own side
@@jutsu1 think of it like a swimming pool. You can't raise yourself by standing on someone else's head. You only drown the other person.
Support yourself properly, and then you can raise the other person so that everybody can float. It makes it better for everyone.
@@MrFrankEast True but the manosphere is right and the feminist are not.
Becoming high value may make you a target to gold diggers but it also improves your options, and that's way better than not having any at all
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This is one of the greatest CZcams channels for the space because it’s extremely centralized and I don’t think it’s male or female dominated. One of the guys had a great point that some people just want to attach them selves to a movement and yell as loud as I can.
Somebody send this to Fresh and Fit, Whatever Podcast, and Pearl.
Any woman "fighting for mans rights" is a grifter. There are a SELECT FEW who are legit like that older lady from UK who basically got kicked out for trying to build a shelter for battered men, but characters like Pearl who just regurgitate sound bites they hear from other men are drifters although ant through, same goes for a lot of the "traditional woman" content creators.
This also goes the other way, a lot of man who are "feminist" are just grifting for benefits because having a mainstream opinion always pays off, same for the "blm supporters" these are basically the people that back in the day would have advocated AGAINST women and FOR slavery because they were the mainstream views
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Question is, isnt it better to have grifters than no advocates at all?
Would you rather it was mainstream media vs men like it was before?
@@duncanmugambi6213It is good to have w0wen advocates but they aren't saying anything new that men haven't said already, It just to get to views & money from men where was these w0wen when men was talking nowhere. Men need to understand chameleon w0wen are real, lot of w0wen who talk men's issues aren't in a relationship with a man they respect, love and or trust at all(some are of course).
@@duncanmugambi6213It is good to have w0wen advocates but they aren't saying anything new that m3Ñ haven't said already, It just to get to views & money from m3Ñ where was these w0wen when m3Ñ was talking nowhere. m3Ñ need to understand chameleon w0wen are real, lot of w0wen who talk m3Ñ's issues aren't in a relationship with a man they respect, love and or trust at all(some are of course).
Yet another consistent, high value masterclass by the hardest working, still underrated & biggest truth advocating channel today. Showing men that in order to protect themselves and navigate things in a productive way, they must be constantly asking themselves better questions and that while there are those like It's Complicated that show their support to men, no one is coming to save you. Let's get him to 500K, he should have been there a long time ago.
I'm so happy, finally someone pointing it out. What's fascinating to me is the fact that Redpillers don't even get this simple thing: they are, in a sense, encouraging men to feed this broken system. Live for yourself and live as good a life as you can, I say.
Before, we could see raising a family as a goal, but that's no longer possible because even if you do get the money, the body, and the maturity, you can't guarantee finding the right women. This is why all these movements exist - MGTOW, Red Pill, etc.; they're simply a reaction to the illness that is feminism and this modern society.
Unfortunately, many of them have become commercialized, like the Red Pill, and no longer simply provide information to men, letting us make up our minds. Instead, like other ideologies, they start to tell you how to think and act.
In the end, we can only control our own actions, so we should do what makes us happiest in the long term, as men in this modern age. It's the only solution that makes sense. Women should be your lowest priority, unless you are lucky enough to have found an amazing one.
And then men look for how to look, how to find, how to attract how to keep, how to be strong enough to not be suicidal and if everything goes south and then the you watch redpill daily cause it's entertaining. But yeah you learn a lot but it's self repeating..yet it's still a community..and a praxeology.
14:45 to 17:03 is all you need to listen to? That explains it all and why I stopped giving a fuck about trying to get to the top of the SMV a long time ago. Even the top G's get fucked over by these modern women so just live your life for you bros.
Thanks dude! I've learned a lot from your videos. I hope you get to 1mil subscribers soon.
The reason we tell men to get better is because we know if we tell women to get better they will kick and scream then tell us don't tell me how to live.
Yes, which proves why we have different standards and practices, and why we are better than them in a general sense. If you tell them the truth, that could affect the bottom line of a lot of these companies and institutions. So like Satan in the garden of Eden, they tell these women what they want to hear, and if you get the women, of course the men will follow them into eternal damnation
In other words they stand on business and men, most men will try their best to submit to their demands.
The problem is metaphorically speaking... women are like in freddy Krueger nightmare... alot men are stuck in their 2.. but we tell men to improve so they can wake up ⏰️... just so they jump right back into nightmare after adding a few attribute points 👉
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This point doesnt make any sense. Its like saying dont arrest a murderer because they will kick and scream when being arrested and dont want to go to trial. We have to tell people what they are doing wrong to others in relationships or we all suffer as a society and population goes down and happiness in relationships goes down like it has been in america. That what you said OP is not a legit reason.
Having been involved heavily in what would become the manosphere for 30 years ish, the value of this video is seeing just how far the message has spread.
I am warmed.
Haven’t watched you in awhile … you absolutely COOKED with this one . Bravo on pushing the conversation and accountability to those invested in it 💯
Red pillers aren't mens advocates. It's an entirely different thing. They're just pickup artists with podcasts.
These are the best criticisms of the red pill/manosphere than Destiny has done in his anti-red pill career.
Pfft, destiny is a laughing stock even if had a few good points.
@@mrghostly1118 true one of the big problems with Destiny is the same with these manosphere grifters. They’re so warped by their ego and success that they think they’re the answer to the problems they will never fix. A bunch of rich Fboys debating other rich Fboys on how to be a better Fboy. When most men just want somebody to love them. For better or worse. At least that’s my opinion.
Changing marriage and divorce laws?
Remember lawyers and judges (who are lawyers as well) are incentivized to keep the laws as as they are. Politicians are majority lawyers as well. It's one big club and they're not interested in cutting off the money source to their fellow lawyers.
So how are those in the manosphere dealing with marriage and divorce? By not getting married in the first place. This is demonstrated by the crashing marriage rates in the US and beyond. That is how you "fix" the laws. There are so many couples shacking up together in LTRs due to the man knowing marriage does nothing for him and divorce can wreck him.
Also what they not telling men about some of the marriages, is that lot of men are in a cuckold knowingly while the wife is smashing other men while he is paying for everything with no compliant which is why lot of those marriages last long.
To the issue of "improving men": Approx 68 % of US citizens are overweight. Isn't that something to start improving? Especially, when you don't have affordable public medical healthcare? ... That does not solve the issues, caused by social media in women, but that part of improving is correct.
And what percentage of that is men?
🤣🤣🤣But body positivity!1! lol (only for one gender tho!!)
Problem is obesse is hard to measure on agroget. Take for instance my self, I weigh nigh 300 pounds. I can also bench press 200 pounds, and have a heavily physical job. Technically I'm obese, and I fit in a xl shirt.
@joneil0022 Overweight versus obese. Men are more likely to be overweight because muscle mass isn't accounted for on bmi.
@joneil0022 And for obesity yes it turns out women more than men though it's closer than I'd like. But again fat versus muscle is a problem on bmi values.
Ngl, if this is the quality of criticism towards the manosphere, then we're doing just fine 😂
If you promote only fans girls you're not pro-men. Thanks for expising the fake grifters. This channel is the true red pill.
Awesome work per usual
Mens Rights Advocates (MRAs) are, and have been for decades, atacking unfair laws. Particularly Family and Child Care Laws. In my opinion MRAs did not rise to the limelight because:
1. Most of their members were crushed by the legal system, so there was little money for the cause.
2. These Laws are Federal State and Local. Travel between jurisdictions makes it more complex.
3. Lawyers find this area of practice highly profitable.
Thanks G. I watch your videos to practice how I debate. You’re very clear and concise.
Some of these guys that were interviewed seemed like they’ve never had a nuanced thought about the subjects the “manosphere/redpill/etc” content they’ve watched, and the answers showed it.
Anybody who thinks fresh and fit and Pearl represent the manosphere, hasn’t dug into this topic. If you don’t know who Paul Elam is, you know nothing of the manosphere.
Great questions !
@16:47 YES!!!
I appreciate the way you ask questions to really get people's wheels turning... I have so much to say on so many of these topics but it's also nice to just kind of meditate on the thoughts of others too.
My favorite video from you so far.
Keep up my friend.
Hope we can have a talk one day.
One thing what set Kevin Samuels apart was da fact he told women to lower their standards. Only a small group of guys will make it to da top and most guys will be average. I want to improve for my own benefit and women will by a byproduct of dat. W/o da average man, this world does not function and if women don’t want an average man, women are gonna miss out. Not us.
Its crazy how you ask softball questions they still stuck.
I don't need them to care about me or hold my hand, its about is the information true.
This why you stick to biblical marriage because it’s done correctly
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16:01 I'm shocked at how these men are finally seeing the Red Pill perspective. They formed opinions without looking at it from their side...or being divorced themselves.
Solutions are not profitable.
The sphere overflows with the product of potential improvement but doesn't offer real progress
Influencers are embracing the victimhood mentality they call out in others
4:16 bars
4:32 these 2 guys dropped sum jewels right here
Love the conclusion that the last guy came to. Yes. What is the point of being high value exactly? What are you really achieving other than an opportunity to get high off of sex.
Brokie cope 🤣
@@myronbourne6937 Agreed, but he's right. The incentives to rear a family have been or are being severed by the family and divorce courts. The only benefit of being high value in the west is to become a high value target. Only solution is to get your money up and run to another country or enter the Juco. Obviously there are inherent benefits to being healthy, finding a purpose to stake your life on and living a more masculine lifestyle but so much of what men are is wrapped up in what the female gender thinks of men.
Only three solutions really come to mind.
1. Free Agent Lifestyle
2. Monk mode
3. Try your hand with a foreign bride; passport bro.
@@GearZNet Not the Juco 🤣🤣 CoachGang 🆙️🔥💪🏽. I'm taking the passport route. Hbu?
@@myronbourne6937 Not claiming to be rich, but I am by no means broke. Over 100K incomes and two business projects that are a work of passion. Doing ok for myself. You are projecting.
He just brainwashed by Tate. Like many others.@@dvanyukov
Wow a mans eyes truly opened at the end.
The flaw in Myron's "become a HVM" narrative is that it's a *Quantity over Quality* solution when what we have is a quality problem/shortage... See, it's pointless to build yourself up just to gain access to a larger QUANTITY of options of the same poison (poisonous QUALITY of women).
Basically, *Myron's reasoning for men to level up to be HVM doesn't fix hoe-flation (which is essentially a QUALITY problem)...* His logic makes sense only if you have a marketplace/dating pool with many good quality marriageable options. Unfortunately, the marketplace is filled with more modern independent gynocentric women than traditional family oriented women, so becoming high value is pointless as a solution if the pool of women is still going to be women with the same modern feminist mindset.
you are so right. on top of that, if women can only go for the top 20% and we know they will, than improving yourself would mean you have to get into the top 20% of men. 80% of men will never achive that, logically. that is not a solution...women just have to learn about decency again or sooner or later everyone will realize that our society is not worth fighting for.
So what is your solution to fixing quality?
myron doesn't want a society raising women to be good, loyal wives who get married young. then he'd have no hoes to smash which is the main reason he cares about being a HVM in the first place.
Scathing indictment of the hypocrisy and I am all for it! Much respect.
What hypocrisy?
13:30 I like this dude, he speaks very calm
The "escorts" truck in thy background was so wild
If men were to hold the line and initiate 70-80% of the divorces, or end relationships with insufferable women you would see things change over night. CGA
Coach Gang 2024. Trayyyy’ain.
Oh..boy you've raised the bar, challenging
"the cure & the cause" 😏🇬🇧
You go girl! Slay queen!!1!!
A grown man open mouth smacking on bubblegum... 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
You make great content and yeah alot of them dont care about men but about making money. About the high value thing its like a meta thing because you want the best options in life but at the same time you need to become good at sorting out the grifters. Thats not easy.
Whenever I go to Vegas I hope I meet him because he asks great questions!!!!
MRA are fighting and promoting changes politically. Academics and politicians often discuss and create solutions to the issues facing men and boys to protect and promote manhood.
BGS IBMOR, The Angryman, KS, Dr. T Hasan Johnson PHD, The Black Brain Trust, Dennis Spurling, Dr. Neal, Green Gorilla...etc.
Paternity fraud has become an official offense in Tennessee. Somebody's listening
In my eyes men are still traditional and the same it's the women that have dramatically changed because of feminism
Kinda dumb questions toward the end. They focus on dudes because telling a bunch of chicks to lower their standards is an idiotic exercise in futility lol. So tell men who might actually improve what the blueprint is and if they follow it good on them. The losers will continue to lose
9:43 lost me on that one bruh 😂
The enemy of your enemy is your friend. Not always true, but if you are trying to subdivide the factions of the red pill on this basis, it is easy to distinguish them in practicality without throwing away the beneficial similarities. It is easy to call someone out for not doing what you think they should be doing to advance "the cause", it is another thing to do it yourself.
What do you think they should be doing to “advance the cause?”Shouldn’t that be debated? Do you think men are more than success objects? (See 11:07)
@@ItsComplicatedChannel I think it should be debated. And as it stands yes- unfortunately, men are only considered success objects to modern women. My point is that to criticize whatever podcast, fresh and fit, and pearly etc for not advancing "the cause" without defining the cause just makes it look like an attempt to create conflict to garner attention. Is the intention behind your scalpal-like questions designed to restore marriage as an institution, or is it to warn men against it entirely?
Men are going to provide for women one way or another, either willingly or through force. Every institution is designed to protect and provide for women.
Marriage was the vehicle for men to willingly provide for women and at one time they would derive some benefit from their wives and the culture at large for their efforts. This is no longer the case.
The other option is force. The decline of marriage is directly correlated with the advancement of the well fair state. Child support isn't concerned with who the father is, only that a father repays the state to recoup the expenses the state allocates to the mother of the child. This removed most of the dependency women had for the men they married. Women are now married to the state. Ironically, the more men that decline marriage and relationships, the more tyranny will be imposed to care for the women who are not being cared for willingly.
So, is "the cause" to fix marriage or to destroy it? Men will only ever be seen as success objects until the modern woman is forced to divorce the state.
Keep up the good work. I am always excited to see one of your new videos on my feed.
@@isaacott3230 You made a great point and a good question. There's a reason why marriage is so beneficial to women. If my understanding of the past is right then marriage was always beneficial to women, by the sole role of men being providers and the traditional lifestyle to build and maintain families. Because of this countries grew and could face war, illnesses, danger and advance.
Those who developed and got stronger grew with other nations. Women had little freedom in law because they were considered property and in a "possession" back in the day. As such women were forced to unwilling marriages or couldn't fight against injustice inside marriage. Divorce was frowned upon because this would separate the family..and had many laws in place which discouraged divorce.
Men had power back in those times, but most men had to compete to reproduce and a chance to have a family.
To ensure safety and provision for family the were roles, naturally evolved and expected. Feminist history dates back quite long...i know little, but i know redpill should learn more to understand the reason as to why marriage is obsolete in today's world. And it has...but most redpillers rarely if ever talk about it. We all just know about the danger of feminism in a post marriage world... it's nuanced but family and marriage has always been the best for children's growth. Better 2 parents than one.
But as you see, because laws were always in favor for women in the past before feminism, while after feminsm those benefits didn't change, it just made exist easier for women. And it's a whole money operation.
@@mrghostly1118 I generally agree with you, but I think it is naive to paint history with the broad brush of feminist talking points. If history held oppression for women, then it held brutality and hell for men. Women have always been intrinsically valuable in any context. Men were more valuable in the right context and more dangerous outside of it.
To say that women were oppressed by men, owned as property- therefore feminism, is just as absurd as saying that if the wolf eats the sheep- then the sheep should oppress the sheepdog. If the sheepdog abandons the flock, it is only a matter of time before the wolves appear. Oppression was the norm. Oppression is the norm.
The people who operate global institutions and governments (I call them illuminazis because I believe it most succinctly illustrates their philosophy) are like ranchers. They see us as cattle. Tax cows. They give us fences (borders) to stay confined in so we feel protected. They provide for our medical needs as is necessary- so long as we produce milk (tax revenue). They allow us to graze in whichever part of the pasture (profession) they allot for us that season. They send men on horses with dogs (media) to herd us into the direction they wish us to go. The calves are separated and weened by the farmer (preschool/daycare) and trained to feed from the trough instead of the pasture. The steers unsuitable for breeding are castrated and sold for meat(divorce courts). They will even kill the bull that keeps pushing over a fence or harming the other cows if it is necessary (police, prison, draft, perpetual wars), because you see -only the best bulls will be allowed to breed and of course- the happiest cows are free-range cows (feminists) you see... In reality they are not free at all, but they think they are free, and if the cow thinks it is free it will produce much more milk for it's farmers. The best way to keep the rest of the cows in line would be to put some of the cows on the payroll of the farmer, that way if any of the rest protest and question the morality of being owned at all for meat(control) and milk(money), they will be viciously attacked and silenced. Sometimes the cows revolt... Hell- no one said (human) farming was easy...
The question of marriage is, and always was, entirely contingent on the farm you happened to be in at the moment. Does the farmer really care for the well-being of his herd ? Only as long as his steak ends up on the table.
It is difficult to look at and ponder the world as it really is. It is painful to finally realize and see the cage you were born into. We need to wake up. To see the farm is to leave it.
This guys a nut I love the government 🏳️🌈
First guy hit the nail
Andrew Tate, Pearl, f&f all did something to become top red pill content creators. Which was givjng insightful advice, and being very entertaining which isn’t easy. They started from zero likes, views and subscribers
Think of it like playing Dark Souls. It's really hard and you make mistakes everywhere and die every time, but once you get better and eventually good the process is a lot easier. This doesn't mean you can one shot the game on the replay, but you now know what to deal with and how to navigate the perils.
9:30 This is one thing I really don't like about this space. Men feel the need to include politics, religion and other irrelevant issues which are just going to be divisive among men instead of putting all that away and coming together with one common goal of advocating for all men. If you think misandry is just something that comes from the left, apparently you've never heard of Tomi Lahren.
Irrelevant? Have you never heard of the saying, "politics is downstream from culture?"
Before these radical ideas took root, the norms were twisted to accept everything. The US was built with religious values that have all but been removed.
Why _wouldn't_ you talk about these things? Better question: why would you believe these things are irrelevant when the study is showing young men are leaning (or staying center and being moved 'right'; now a substitute for 'conservative') more conservative and women more liberal (a substitute for 'left')? The middle is actually just not as radically left, which means it isn't the middle, and you think it's irrelevant?
Wild.
Politics is inherently relevant to the topic, and religion more so. Religion is an understanding of how things *are*, and politics is an understanding of how things *ought to be*.
You cannot have one without the other, at least not without seeing the societal rot that leads to people having conversations like what this channel is bringing forth.
It should be apolitical, but it's easy to try to divide and recruit, by people who are kinda simple. All of you yanks are right wing really, loving that corporate ding dong.
Socialism isn't all that left wing, but you're lead to see it as extreme because it might help you, instead of being poor because of a health problem
Bro tell me your clueless without saying it. Religion? This all happened because we have a lack of religion. Come on man, start thinking
The politics is important but loves to divide and religion is also a personal preference that divides, it merely guides those who think they need it. Some content creators are lazy and shoehorn their politics into every discussion, it's more like propaganda with some red pilled talking points... It's almost like it is an election year
They proved plenty times they care about the men they advocate for! And some have also said shame leads to motivation to do better!
Shaming is bullying people to conform to your narrative.
@@ItsComplicatedChannel I would say shaming a racist or womanizer is bullying as well, but sometimes necessary.
bigg boy be knowing😂
What does legal marriage provide to men that they can't get without it?
Why not advocate for just a religious ceremony with no government license?
I think that would be perfectly fine@@ItsComplicatedChannel. In other words; get government out of the marriage business.
Marriage was never for men tho... its like telling an nfl athlete as an owner... to play ball on handshake agreement... wants you use up a womens womb especially with kids they immediately drop value they can never get back... so i get the safety and security... the problem is they can be Russell wilson and hypothetically cut themselves and still have their contract fully guaranteed... so it does need revision
From 14:50 should be on a loop EVERYWHERE 24/7 .... every guy's alarm basically ;)
I love the channel, but there is a disingenuous characterization of FnF especially. They have day shows where they don't even talk about women. They never advocate for "bugattis" and whatnot.
The podcasts you speak of don't ONLY bring OF girls on the show & you know it... And my question to creators like you & also those podcasts would be, "Why not keep the peace amongst each other & be the example of a strong manosphere community if all of yalls goals are to help men regardless?" Beefing & tryna separate each other isn't gonna help anything
Nobody said they ONLY bring on OF girls, but they mostly bring on OF girls and instathots and it’s undeniable. Even our “movement” needs to hold itself accountable. These were not personal attacks, but rather challenging logic, ideas & contradictions which is what my channel is all about in the pursuit of helping men.
@ItsComplicatedChannel At 9:04 you ask "instead of just bringing on OF girls,....." which preconceived that's all they bring on the show... Granted there are some or atleast one in most of the shows but not all, atleast not F&F. They were surprised in a couple shows that they didn't have OF girls & actually went out the way on one of the shows & made sure they only had women they were Dr,lawyers, etc and didn't do OF. Matter fact, Brian doesn't either, he's had women of value on as well, hell he even had Candace owens on.
@@ItsComplicatedChannel Dude you sound a little hypocritical considering the kind of vvomen you chose to interview in most of your videos...
They bring on women to help they cause Via get money out of men to play a losing game like get in shape get money blah blah and the cycle starts all over again. The main solution is purpose then leave America but nobody wanna be honest and say that except passport dudes. Cheaper living better women even though they biologically the same the traits are better
I get random women on the street, I’m not preselecting them and linking their social media in the description to promote them. Several OF girls have reported an increase in followers after appearing on these shows.
I agree that the most famous channels are just using the problem to their advantage.
Dude. Killing it with these questions. Amazing
Such great people on this episode awesome to see them share their viewpoint I really enjoyed the segment about hoeflation.....
It's funny people go for the stuff that they do just like Jack LaLanne says "I can't believe people go for this stuff!"
So now the manosphere is Andrew rate and fresh and fit? 🤦🏻♂️
I’m so sick of men’s rights activists being sidelined so that stuff like fresh and fit represents “the manosphere”. The manosphere has been around a long time before any of these podcasts.
I don't even listen to red pill content I think it's bullshit. I only listen to motivation such as tate, goggins, stoicism videos and treating everyone with respect. FreshandFit, Justpearlythings and whatever podcast just annoy me
6:01 Based
Out of curiosity Where’s this RP manosphere shade coming from? You’ve been on their podcasts, I’m confused 🤔
Very odd indeed
yep and itscomplicated also benefits from "manosphere" so I dont get it ofc other main podcasts earn more than him but still he ears money bcs only men watch this so yeah contradiction from him
It's as if he's making sure people aren't brainwashed or something.
You saw this guy right? That’s precisely why he’s complaining. He’s not taking a morally superior position, he’s trying to bend reality and change women’s preferences because he doesn’t want to do the work to be attractive to women. In short: he’s turning into a male version of a feminist.
@@mattsmichel9864they clearly are if they're talking bs on this video even though this dude does the same thing he's asking questions about
I know u friends with these creators so I’m not gonna be baited into this but I just want to say I love how you turn the lights on with people on the street! You like a street preacher bro ! PREACH!
Lol @ 15:20 you can literally see the moment he gets redpilled 😂😂😂
He said “the nature of women is to get along” lmao 🤔🤯🤦🏽♂️
its not worded right, but its the truth
nature of a women is to "go with the flow" which means SUBMIT.
A women must submit to the group because she is weak and dependent.
Taking social risks is not smart for her, cause she is gonna reproduce as long as she doesnt get kicked out completely.
No need to make it to the top, just do what the majority says and don't get ostracized.
If you have beef, keep it hush hush behind everyones back and act nice while you backstab.
Thats the female mindset.
Love the growth bruv.
This video is so red pilled. A true indepth discussion. You dont need to rely on gimmicks.
This is why it’s important to take what’s said with a grain of salt. Some pieces of advice isn’t good nor should be listened to.
6:37 MEN: STOP LIKING WOMEN
No. Stop Simping.
I think F&F started with good intentions trying to come up with interesting scenarios that would help women relate to men's perspective, but now it's just a formula that became a meme. Watched for a couple of months then moved on because it's literally the same show every time, same with all the others.
@3:09 It SHOULD be about divorce yet more that I think about it. I think bout #In_Cell problem If-when their us one? 🤔
The making money off OF girls question. That's like saying 2 opposing countries can't sit down and talk. And while they are up there talking you get to see their true colors! Just look at it like journalism.
When the fuck is the dude at 5:14 gonna make his own podcast💯
Is a nation comprised of family units or the individual? Does the US create laws that support families or individuals today? Did the monoculture society of the past have an easier time at determining what was acceptable vs un-acceptable behaviors? I think the honest answers to these questions will show you why we don't have the cohesiveness will expect, the inertia of the past can only carry so far.
I’m being MGTOW for almost a decade….
$1,500,000
My simple divorce took two and a half years of my life to complete and cost me a good $1,500,000 in lost earnings and accumulated wealth over 40 years. I'd say in the end the total attorney fees for me and my ex wife cost on the order of $90,000.
Are you guys willing to sign up for that risk?
Red Pill knowledge would have made a giant difference in my life if I had awareness in the 1980s.
QUESTION FOR EVERYONE HERE
Are you actively fighting for the divorce laws, child custody laws, domestic violence laws and false accusation laws to be made fairer to men?
If not... Why not?
5:03 You cannot be any more REAL...
So glad you're pushing back on the RP space. It was fun at first, but I'm so sick of the doomer woman hating bs.
No matter how many of these videos that I watch it never ceases to amaze me how silly SOME women are.
its this simple, just go mgtow, make money and get that passport
With regards to the "contradiction" of saying "women deserve less and encouraging men to become high value.
I see it like this : If the price of brad became $20, we can all say "Bread costs too much or bread should not cost that much"
but if you want to eat, you need to find a way to make and spend that $20, that's just life 🤷♂
So let’s contribute to hoeflation by telling men to pay a higher price rather than change laws to lower the price. Myron & Aba & Preach even discussed how legalizing prostitution would make things easier for men, but instead Myron continues to push the self-improvement grift.