I'm Wrong ABOUT ENHANCEMENT SHAMAN - The War Within

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Komentáře • 62

  • @ThoGrey
    @ThoGrey  Před 2 měsíci +4

    To be clear, i'm still having the opinion that the Spec tree is horribly designed and Stormstrike/Windfury are still a joke.
    But overal, It kinda get saved by the ''bugfix?'' of Tempest.
    I show you this in the video.

    • @ThoGrey
      @ThoGrey  Před 2 měsíci +3

      And lacking defensives, and alot of mandatory pvp talents while having only 3 spots.

  • @frmtheden
    @frmtheden Před 2 měsíci +3

    dude why did Blizzard just completely poop on the shamans with their changes AND their Tier sets LOL the shoulders look like a warlock necro style

  • @ThoGrey
    @ThoGrey  Před 2 měsíci +4

    Elemental shaman still screwed by Tempest not scaling correctly.

  • @Levelity
    @Levelity Před 2 měsíci +9

    If there is a better advertisement for not pre-ordering a live service game, how they are handling shaman atm is a great example.

    • @ThoGrey
      @ThoGrey  Před 2 měsíci

      I mean, there is a way to play the spec now, but I still want changes for my spec tree, and ideally good defs

    • @Levelity
      @Levelity Před 2 měsíci

      @@ThoGrey Yeah I just don’t see any meaningful improvement for us in PvP.

  • @davidschultz2198
    @davidschultz2198 Před 2 měsíci +2

    The wolf capstone "elemental spirits" is a big damage amp for this spec. What are your thoughts about getting it instead of primordial wave. I often have 4 or 5 lightning wolves up on a target dummy. I think the buff stacks.

    • @ThoGrey
      @ThoGrey  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Hmmm it could be worth to test it. The issue with elemental spirits is getting the fire and frost ones, they don't add anything to that playstyle..
      Having 5 lightning wolves is insane, but don't forget that it's rng for your feral spirits.. you could have periods without any damage increase.

  • @bogdanrotaru6101
    @bogdanrotaru6101 Před 2 měsíci +4

    the core gameplay of enha shaman was always random oneshot procs, wheather as windurry in classic, or with ascendance proc in retail. Just increase the deeply rooted to 15% and it would be fine.

    • @ThoGrey
      @ThoGrey  Před 2 měsíci

      Agreed.

    • @dnwlkr935
      @dnwlkr935 Před 2 měsíci

      let me clarify that the idea of one shot is limited in itself and does not characterize Enh. A theme akin to Fury Warrior, an impulsive assertive style that accidentally ramps up during pressure, is right for him. But this should not be entirely his idea of gameplay. It must be remembered that Enh is a melee support, inspiring an aggressive melee style of battle, giving support in this direction.

    • @ThoGrey
      @ThoGrey  Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@dnwlkr935 also agreed. Overal an Hybrid monster that gives ample support.

    • @dnwlkr935
      @dnwlkr935 Před 2 měsíci

      @@ThoGrey The shaman is a collective character, he lacks personal organization, protection and physical tactics, this weakness emphasizes identity well.
      He does not know how to strictly fix himself on the target, avoid or prevent attacks, disable the target. Totemic and some magical utility, like a purge, and aggressive supporting strategy using elements. but problem, that PVE gameplay style, this is what he prefers most of all, which has already been reflected in other classes). Most dps play style like a Fury Warrior, when the maximum pressure of the goal and the DPS of synergia is appreciated.
      In PVP situations, DPS pressure does not always solve.
      For example, the hunter's approach to combat. Wait and build a convenient scenario, distance control the situation, and charge at the right moment with a lack of strength and endurance (survival).

  • @davidschultz2198
    @davidschultz2198 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thank you for these videos, Thogrey. Can you please copy and paste your discussed build into your description so that we can easily try it out? Thanks and keep it up!

    • @ThoGrey
      @ThoGrey  Před 2 měsíci

      I'll link it in the comment, but tbf, you can't test it if you don't have the beta. maybe you have it tho

  • @Fabolousyo
    @Fabolousyo Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thanks for trying out. I think stormstrike build could make a comeback If they increase the chance of ascendance to 10% and reduce the cd to 2 minutes. But they still have to reduce the needed points for some talents in the tree.

    • @ThoGrey
      @ThoGrey  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yeah still alot of work is needed, don't get me wrong.
      I do think that now that the builds feel ''damaging'', atleast we have something to look forward to.

  • @dimesoul2020
    @dimesoul2020 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Enhance just needs grounding totem or burrow baseline and the spec would be alot better

    • @RoidRooster
      @RoidRooster Před 2 měsíci +3

      Burrow should be baseline for all shamans

    • @ThoGrey
      @ThoGrey  Před 2 měsíci

      That would indeed help us!

    • @ignaciocarda6004
      @ignaciocarda6004 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@RoidRoosterI always thought that grounding totem should be baseline for shamans. That alone would add a lot of utility for our toolkit

  • @erikmagnusson2924
    @erikmagnusson2924 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Alot of complaints about shaman overall. And i agree with most but still, resto seems pretty solid

    • @ThoGrey
      @ThoGrey  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Resto is defo solid, but Totemic is straight garbo for resto pvp. You need to talent for Healing Rain, and the healing will never be good smallscale because of it having AOE properties...
      But, I do think Farseer is way better for Resto than Ele.

  • @kgeo8541
    @kgeo8541 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I mean enha is pretty good it just needs some changes in big cds, defensives ,mana consuption, rotation ,a complete rework in talents and a big change to hero talents. But other than that its rly good

    • @ThoGrey
      @ThoGrey  Před 2 měsíci

      That's a big checklist! hahahah
      but yeah, Tbf, just the fantasy is soo awesome that makes it pretty appealing to ''main'' it.. but yeah all the problems just hits you like a rollercoaster

  • @ryan3371
    @ryan3371 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I've always hated that maelstrom stacks bs. Just give enhancement the maelstrom as a resource. Easier to track than a little icon buff.
    Never understood why only elemental got it as a resource

    • @ThoGrey
      @ThoGrey  Před 2 měsíci

      Yeah or a combo point style.. but tbf, People complain about uniformity and when it's different, we tend to complain aswell.. so it's a lose/lose situation most of the time.

  • @papa_kez6602
    @papa_kez6602 Před 2 měsíci +1

    In pugs, storm build with stormbringer is the only way 😂😂😂 been testing this whole beta, totemic requires a lot of set up

    • @ThoGrey
      @ThoGrey  Před 2 měsíci

      Good to know for the pve'rs!

    • @papa_kez6602
      @papa_kez6602 Před 2 měsíci

      @@ThoGrey yeah don't even pick up the frost strike just skip it

  • @bigknockersOO
    @bigknockersOO Před 2 měsíci +1

    7 million HP? That is just dumb. Squish stats down to reasonable values

  • @Derek9598
    @Derek9598 Před 2 měsíci

    Enhancement is always strong right out the gate, as gear improves, enhancement sort of levels off....

  • @tomselby24
    @tomselby24 Před 2 měsíci

    If they keep heroism and instant elemental blasts they will have a spot in shuffle

  • @dnwlkr935
    @dnwlkr935 Před 2 měsíci +1

    stormblast 1.8% damage, weak for a talent. Enh have many weak talents. Frost strike, frost shock, flame shock, lava lash very weak abilities, that need to take much talents to improve them.
    All specializations have Entry and Central level talents that are well divided into Single target and AOE, and within these categories they interact well and are useful to each other. while Enh Single target talents oppose each other and have no independent benefit.
    Notice how often they take care of the talents of other classes, adjusting something, redistributing it, adding and improving
    connections. And the stinginess with which they work on the shaman and Enh spec

    • @ThoGrey
      @ThoGrey  Před 2 měsíci

      Yeah defo alot of these talents could get a buff or get changes. This video is rather a positive take on enhance, but it doesn't take away the many things I really want to see changed for enhance.

  • @blamka3614
    @blamka3614 Před 2 měsíci

    Sigo sin entender porque hacen videos pegandole a los dummys, por lo menos hagan duelos para ver la realidad .....

  • @andredesouzadovale1426
    @andredesouzadovale1426 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Shaman rework will happen on season 1

  • @12Beastn
    @12Beastn Před 2 měsíci

    The damage could be "good" it still plays like shit. Enhance needs a rework

    • @ThoGrey
      @ThoGrey  Před 2 měsíci

      Needing a rework is something we all agree unfortunatly

  • @miladahmadi3382
    @miladahmadi3382 Před 2 měsíci

    hope not storm buld is too boring no one enjoy to spam storm strike sucks

    • @ThoGrey
      @ThoGrey  Před 2 měsíci

      It's litterally like saying Mortal Strike is boring to arms. Stormstrike should always have been like MS is for Arms.

  • @hvdiv17
    @hvdiv17 Před 2 měsíci +1

    No bro enhancement shamans are garbo you wont have anything to stand up to all the new hero talents.you wont even stand up to survival hunters.
    shamans are garbage.

    • @ThoGrey
      @ThoGrey  Před 2 měsíci

      It's defo not the best, but I think wiht this build you can have some success. But tbf It will need alot of changes still.

  • @Raddo94
    @Raddo94 Před 2 měsíci

    cmooon who cares about pvp

    • @ThoGrey
      @ThoGrey  Před 2 měsíci

      My whole channel.. sorry that you arent into pvp :/

    • @dnwlkr935
      @dnwlkr935 Před 2 měsíci +1

      PVP initially in WOW best reveals the player's choice, the concepts of classes and specializations, the spirit of Faction and races in practice.
      And PVE scenarios limit these possibilities and disrupt the diversity of classes.

      And it doesn't matter how many customers, consumers prefer this or that content. The game is defined by its philosophy and not by the random whims of superficial players

    • @Raddo94
      @Raddo94 Před 2 měsíci

      @@dnwlkr935I disagree, pvp combat is unfun since like mop. If I want to pvp I go play league

    • @dnwlkr935
      @dnwlkr935 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Raddo94 You did not understand. The class design is strongly limited by the PVE needs of the players, these scenarios, so that they are not offended, they do not allow a lot of fun abilities which would not be able to be implemented correctly in PVE, so that PVE players would not have claims that classes are not being done for them.
      The PVE style can be implemented in PVP, but vice versa is not possible, which is why they make classes like this.
      If you look at the whole retrospective, the features and mechanics of classes, it is obvious that they reveal themselves better in PVP. Look at pvp talents.
      Sniper shot, unique MM hunt utility, Survival hunt range+melee tactics, Arms Warrior Duel, to a soldier concept. Shadow duel subtlety, and many other interesting and situational mechanics.
      Many skills must be Baseline, but this destroy pve balance and scenario. PVP players are forced to limit themselves to 3 slots of their talents, based generally on the PVE class system...

  • @memofreire
    @memofreire Před 2 měsíci +1

    Naaaah dawg, it's garbage 😢

    • @ThoGrey
      @ThoGrey  Před 2 měsíci

      There is hope for the build, but I agree alot needs to be changed.

  • @user-ov5rb7hn4p
    @user-ov5rb7hn4p Před 2 měsíci

    Chill, shamy reworks incoming in next weeks, stop crying already

    • @ivenslaercio6474
      @ivenslaercio6474 Před 2 měsíci

      Stop giving me Hope 😅

    • @Fabolousyo
      @Fabolousyo Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@ivenslaercio6474 Dont trust somebody with a rat as profile picture

    • @user-ov5rb7hn4p
      @user-ov5rb7hn4p Před 2 měsíci

      @@ivenslaercio6474 it's kinda confirmed, so stop this panic

    • @ThoGrey
      @ThoGrey  Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@user-ov5rb7hn4p link to the confirm?

    • @memofreire
      @memofreire Před 2 měsíci +3

      dh usser