Great Vid! As a T590 owner - I'm partial to these machines; sometimes you do feel like it could stall out, but you have to be really on something for that to happen. 95% of the time for fine grading or hogging dirt with a toothed bucket - no problems! Out here in CA we don't need doors.... so that solves that. Though we do have the enclosed cab on the new E35R we just got.
I personally like the bobcat equipment do to my bobcat dealer is 6 miles from where I live👍🏻 easy to get parts and service at a affordable price. This machines are so easy to work on them so you can do it your self repairs and safe👍🏻
I have a T190 I put a cutting edge on it that does help . Bobcat buckets are the best for volume Cat buckets are ridiculously tiny compared to there machines size and the best thing with the kubota bucket is the step tread . Bobcat equipment has always treated me well.
I learned a lot. really was surprised how well the bobcat did pushing the dirt. Personally I stick with Cat, do to customer service and great financing options. Cat machines have been good to my dad and I when it comes to the long term reliability. when buying a machine there is a lot to consider and your videos have helped me understand some pro and cons.
They fixed the track system recently and it is just as open as Kubota and cat. Also they have a low profile bucket that would fix the cutting edge visibility.
The company I work for owns 30+ Bobcat Skid Steers, from T300's to 870's. They are great machines, unfortunately since they were bought out the quality of the parts are not what they used to be. The one big advantage for us is when we need a part, its easy to find a bobcat dealer to get one. We do work all over the country, so that is a big deal for us. Bobcat owns about 63% of the skid steer market. Cat has around 30+% I think. So its relatively easy to find parts for them as well. If you are staying close to home base all the time, this is not really a big deal. The Kubota machines are really nice. If I were buying for my personal use thats what I would buy. But still, there are a lot of really good machines on the market. A lot of the decision to buy is based on how well the dealer treats you. If I were to own a dealership of any kind I would bend over backwards to make sure my customers had the support they needed. All the dealers have to do is act like they appreciate your business and take care of you in a timely fashion. And when your equipment breaks, make sure they get it fixed ASAP. Thats how you sell machines. Its easy to do, but for some reason, some people just don't get it. Go figure.
Yep, I agree, these things are bought to make money, and you can't make money when it goes down, and they DO go down. Usually at a bad or critical time. Kyle has said and I'll repeat it, it is all about service after the sale. I actually asked him to include the Bobcats and he was kind enough to oblige. I was just about ready to pull the trigger on an 870, but after doing a little homework I have backed off that. I just ordered a Takeuchi Excavator and after seeing how that goes, will probably end up with the model he tested in this series. Bobcat's only bad point is that their stuff is proprietary. Which means if you want a certain attachment, you have to buy a Bobcat. piece. which limits your choices. That is not to say they are not good machines, just that I may come across a deal on something that isn't wired the same and either have to pass, or spend time converting it. I like to be flexible.so I am going to pass on Bobcat. I think their quality started downhill when their company was bought out a while ago. I noticed the motors were changed as well.
what brand of engine? I know the earlier m and t series skids were using doosan engines and they are having problems starting in the cold. Alot of unhappy snow only guys that bought these. Also any suspension? No bouncing forward like u said in the cat ?
Great video again Kyle! You know my pick is the Takeuchi! I have never really even considered a bobcat or seen them as much as a contender. I just really like size of the Takeuchi, it feels like a dozer or tank. I have had mine for almost 6 years and 6800 hours later still no complaints. Yes it rides a little rougher than the rest but it's strong and handle the abuse of running it daily. I also feel the controls are better and more responsive than cat. Takeuchi is true hydraulic pilot controls so you don't have the hesitation like with the electric over hydraulic controls. Just my 2 cents, they all have their benefits that work for someone
Good to hear, I'm pretty sure they switch from Pilot over to Elec over Hyd. The one I tested was ELEC over hyd and prefer hyd over hyd. Everyone running taks loves them!
Crazy I did not know that. The last brand knew Tak I ran was in 2015 it was a TL12 and mine is 2011 so I’m sure a lot has changed. I made a couple of videos for you showing some of the work I get into with my machine. I can emai they to you if you don’t mind. Or you can checkout my Facebook page it’s Elite Earthworks LLC in Joplin MO. I’m thinking of making a CZcams channel after watching all your videos! Keep up the great work man!
If you prefer hyd. pilot controls then you should have loved Takeuchi. They are the only one you tested with hyd. pilot controls. All other brands you tested have Eletric/hydraulic controls. It is cheaper and easier to produce Eletric/hydraulic controls, but Takeuchi refuses to switch. It is one of their name to fames with their instant precise true Hydraulic pilot controls.
Hey Kyle. we have a SVL90 first gen... in the market as well for a new one! I like the 95 but dont want the DEF.. I went to Bobcat as well and my sales guy seems to think the T740 will run or be better then our 90s???? The 740 Is DPF but no DEF..
Hey, Kyle I've got a question, hopefully I can get a reply on your most recent video. I am looking to get into the excavation business, I have a about 4 years overall experience running equipment from a Bobcat T300 to a John Deere 350 excavator. I currently work for a family operated excavation company that's been around for a long time. We have had lots of rain and snow here recently and I have been out of work. I am considering looking for some bobcat work or something where I can rent the machine and do the work. Should I go and ask other excavation contractors in my area to throw some work my way if it's too small for them to deal with or whatever the case may be? Or should I just put ads up everywhere?
Hey man, no response from him, felt like saying something. sometimes word of mouth is always best but try and run adds in as many free places as you can. Once you've made a bit look and ask around and read reviews on local advertisements sites. They take a while to start working but seems to help out in the end. Good luck bud
If I'm not mistaken I believe you can change the speed of the hand controls. Lap bar down, yellow button hold down and press park brake release, use the thumb scroller to adjust. These machines are monsters that compare right with the CATS.
Thank you for the review. I have a T-650 74 HP. I like it for what I do but am looking to trade up for the T-770. Another 18 HP and bigger boom. You helped sway my decision. I like the CAT and the Kubota but will consider staying with Bobcat. Thanks again for the review.
Aside from the stalling error... I️ gotta day I️ think this may be the smoothest looking machine (from the outside) that you have operated in this test. How’d the stability compare to that of the 299d? My biggest concern with the Cat was the internal shaking in the cab and the overall balance of the machine was flawed due to the suspension: a long day in the Cat 299d seems like a sore back to me.
In that machine (299) it would be a sore back for sure, I had a sore back for over a year when I ran one. My Cat rep watches and says there is a solution to that would help balance/smooth out the ride. The cat has great balance as far as lifting capability - and I really like how nimble and small the 299 feels compared to the others - wish it had a bigger cab lol!
Like Colton said Bobcat has multple buckets available. The low profile bucket is probably what you have on your kubota. Where Bobcat shines is attachments, their attachments are unmatched as far as selection and durability.
Some of their attachments are brilliant. We tried a bobcat 4n1 bucket and what a heap of shit. We've come to the conclusion that the machines are great but American buckets are shit.
I think you pick: Kubota, bobcat, tac, cat or Kubota, tac, bobcat, cat. Just depends if you like to tank size of tac, it wouldn't be a good thing for me though
I have not experienced it myself, but isn't Bobcat's attachments fairly proprietary? That is crucial when you have several different brands in the inventory and wanting to swap a forestry head or anything to a different brand requires some wiring and computer wizardry I am told. I know there are adapters but I'd rather not deal with that. ALTHOUGH, Bobcat DOES make many things the others DON"T have.
For some reason, Bobcats in general seem to run out of power and seem less responsive than what I would like. I have time mostly on a T650 and T870. I think the cab is pretty tight as well and I don't care for the swing out front door. The biggest plus for me with a Bobcat is serviceability. I'm considering setting up a test as similar as possible to yours with the Takeuchi TL10 that I operate. Would you be interested in the results or maybe a video?
The JCB & Deere dealer are the same here, I reached out to them and no response so it doesn't look like Ill review them this round. Plus the snow has set in pretty good and with 4-6 inches we have it wouldn't be a fair test. IF the JCB still has the single arm boom and the side door as it did years ago when I rented one I would say I am not a fan and wouldn't buy due to the door location and single boom. just my 2 cents. Thanks for watching!
Computer/ hydraulic auto shut down due to overloading the engine hydraulics. Try to keep a more consistent rpm especially when pushing too much fill/ under load conditions. Listen to the engine under load when you have the bucket full and are still trying to push the entire pile, if the engine stalls under such a load engine damage can occur. Brain shuts down to prevent damage and tell operator, back off I only can do so much. Remember the engine is only putting out 2/3 to 1/2 rpm under load that means less torque/ hp while your maxing out all hydraulic systems. 743B 873 t-190 s650 e331
had it at full rpm when going through the pile. First time I've ever had a modern skid steer stall out on me. - The dealer did say its' been having an issue with that so there is definitely something wrong with it. thanks for watching!
I have a lot of time in a t650 and 299d2, one week we demoed a t770 and it flew your comment about track speed seems off to me I’ve never been in a machine that will literally drift in a corner spinning the tracks
One thing that kind of pushed me away from the Bobcat, and trust me, I REALLY LIKE THEM, was the fact that you are kind of locked into their attachments. their controls and wiring are proprietary, which makes it difficult to select some other brand of implement if it is computer/electrical controlled. Now you CAN buy adapter cables and all, but I really hate to putz with it, especially if we are talking electronics. I know you are shying away from the Tak in your comments, and I'd lay even money that you choose the Kubota SVL-95 as your next workhorse, and I get that. It was what I was looking at buying originally, but in the end, I wanted something that is going to work every day, and not spend time in the shop. Not saying the SVL-95 wouldn't fit the bill, but there are other factors at play too. Like TAK's mini Ex. Which outguns the Kubota KX080 by a wide margin. Lastly one thing to keep in mind, I am not making a living running one of these. This is all for my personal use and my needs are very different than the average guy who wants to put food on the table.
I work for a grading company and I handle all the small scale grading meaning I run all the skid loader work. at this point we run 2 cat 259d's and the reliability on them is beyond mediocre literally every other week on Thursday I'm taking a machine to the shop and having to get it fixed even though I'm meticulous on maintenance. they have fast hydraulics and a smooth ride but terrible reliability and visibility hence their shitty back up cam. so my question is simply from a reliability standpoint and a 12 hour operating day what is the most RELIABLE machine on the market that gives the least problems?
@@Techman-pt5zs they're 2 years old with about 15 to 17 hundred hours so not that old I mean run like hell but still pretty new and I tend to have a ton of track problems speed sensors that throw the park break on tensioners that blow out tracks fall off like nobody's business have had to put 2 new motors in one ac and heat stopped working one day the pins always give me trouble and those are just the issues off the top of my head
physical weight wise it is...coming in at 10,200lbs (or close to it) - its the lightest out of the bunch for sure. It is a 92 hp machine which does make it reasonably comparable to the others. Lot of good things about the bobcat. Too bad it stalled out. They didn't have a t870 available so this was as close as we could get. (870 only weighs more so I understand)
I don't have the advantage of being in the driver's seat on this, but judging by the video, with the exception of the stall out, I think the bobcat did pretty well. It seemed to power through the initial hill, the reverse action seemed to me that it was the fastest of the bunch. Bear in mind, that could have been because of the camera location, as you set it up much closer than you did for the others. Also, don't they have an 870? Which may have been more in the Tak Class size wise. I don't know, I really like the Tak after seeing and running one, but one of my main uses will be both mulching and lifting trees onto my sawmill. I would like to see an SVL95 run through the same tests to see if it has just that little bit more to push it over the top. Right now I am leaning towards the Tak for a couple reasons. Durability as you said with the larger pins and boom IS a major factor. Forestry mulching is HARD on equipment so that is important. Lastly, I am very old school where bigger is always better. I have a dump truck, so towing isn't an issue. I ordered the TaK 290 Mini Excavator already, and I feel comfortable with the same brand for the track loader as well. Definitely the 12. Just wish I didn't have to wait for the Mini Ex to come in. Bummer.
I learned that TAK has the TL12V which is the vertical lift and the standard TL12 that is radius lift - tree farmers like the standard radius lift better than the vertical for loading flatbed trucks. but if you ever load your dump with it, i'd def want the vertical. The TAK is huge...I think the TL12 should really be in a class of its own IMO. I also think a better comparison would have been with the TL10 on this round but hindsight is always that. As far as the Kubota I have heard by quite a few people that the newer 95 has a lot more ummfff than the 90. Thanks for watching!
thanks for the advice on the vertical versus radius lift. I agree for my needs the vertical is the way to go. I don't haul a lot with the dump truck, but when I do, I try to use the right tool. My sawmill is set up stationary now, with a long infeed set of rails so I don't see any problem with using the vertical in that capacity.
There is too many variables each person is different and has different situations there all machines with moving parts there All going to break down do ur own assessment for reliability, fuel consumption, serviceability, dealer,parts availability, Kubota is very hard on fuel
Great Vid! As a T590 owner - I'm partial to these machines; sometimes you do feel like it could stall out, but you have to be really on something for that to happen. 95% of the time for fine grading or hogging dirt with a toothed bucket - no problems! Out here in CA we don't need doors.... so that solves that. Though we do have the enclosed cab on the new E35R we just got.
Kyle, this was very informative.
Great machine and in my opinion I think bobcat loaders are the bar setters in the class. I just love running a bobcat day in and day out
Im a fan of 770 and 870 as well. Great machines for sure.
I personally like the bobcat equipment do to my bobcat dealer is 6 miles from where I live👍🏻 easy to get parts and service at a affordable price. This machines are so easy to work on them so you can do it your self repairs and safe👍🏻
I have a T190 I put a cutting edge on it that does help . Bobcat buckets are the best for volume Cat buckets are ridiculously tiny compared to there machines size and the best thing with the kubota bucket is the step tread . Bobcat equipment has always treated me well.
Smooooth operator right here.
I hit that like button. Cool review. You have a ton of time in this
Thanks for watching!
I learned a lot. really was surprised how well the bobcat did pushing the dirt. Personally I stick with Cat, do to customer service and great financing options. Cat machines have been good to my dad and I when it comes to the long term reliability. when buying a machine there is a lot to consider and your videos have helped me understand some pro and cons.
They fixed the track system recently and it is just as open as Kubota and cat. Also they have a low profile bucket that would fix the cutting edge visibility.
The company I work for owns 30+ Bobcat Skid Steers, from T300's to 870's. They are great machines, unfortunately since they were bought out the quality of the parts are not what they used to be. The one big advantage for us is when we need a part, its easy to find a bobcat dealer to get one. We do work all over the country, so that is a big deal for us. Bobcat owns about 63% of the skid steer market. Cat has around 30+% I think. So its relatively easy to find parts for them as well. If you are staying close to home base all the time, this is not really a big deal. The Kubota machines are really nice. If I were buying for my personal use thats what I would buy. But still, there are a lot of really good machines on the market. A lot of the decision to buy is based on how well the dealer treats you. If I were to own a dealership of any kind I would bend over backwards to make sure my customers had the support they needed. All the dealers have to do is act like they appreciate your business and take care of you in a timely fashion. And when your equipment breaks, make sure they get it fixed ASAP. Thats how you sell machines. Its easy to do, but for some reason, some people just don't get it. Go figure.
Yep, I agree, these things are bought to make money, and you can't make money when it goes down, and they DO go down. Usually at a bad or critical time. Kyle has said and I'll repeat it, it is all about service after the sale. I actually asked him to include the Bobcats and he was kind enough to oblige. I was just about ready to pull the trigger on an 870, but after doing a little homework I have backed off that. I just ordered a Takeuchi Excavator and after seeing how that goes, will probably end up with the model he tested in this series. Bobcat's only bad point is that their stuff is proprietary. Which means if you want a certain attachment, you have to buy a Bobcat. piece. which limits your choices. That is not to say they are not good machines, just that I may come across a deal on something that isn't wired the same and either have to pass, or spend time converting it. I like to be flexible.so I am going to pass on Bobcat. I think their quality started downhill when their company was bought out a while ago. I noticed the motors were changed as well.
Just checking out your channel, lots of great info, are u going make anymore videos
Speed , lift , lower , bucket angle can all be adjusted from joystick
what brand of engine? I know the earlier m and t series skids were using doosan engines and they are having problems starting in the cold. Alot of unhappy snow only guys that bought these. Also any suspension? No bouncing forward like u said in the cat ?
When are you coming back to CZcams?? Love the vids!
No NH or Case, if not I would say the TL12V2 it’s just a beast !
Kyle, of the machines you have tested to date, what is your favorite?
Great video again Kyle! You know my pick is the Takeuchi! I have never really even considered a bobcat or seen them as much as a contender. I just really like size of the Takeuchi, it feels like a dozer or tank. I have had mine for almost 6 years and 6800 hours later still no complaints. Yes it rides a little rougher than the rest but it's strong and handle the abuse of running it daily. I also feel the controls are better and more responsive than cat. Takeuchi is true hydraulic pilot controls so you don't have the hesitation like with the electric over hydraulic controls. Just my 2 cents, they all have their benefits that work for someone
Good to hear, I'm pretty sure they switch from Pilot over to Elec over Hyd. The one I tested was ELEC over hyd and prefer hyd over hyd. Everyone running taks loves them!
Crazy I did not know that. The last brand knew Tak I ran was in 2015 it was a TL12 and mine is 2011 so I’m sure a lot has changed. I made a couple of videos for you showing some of the work I get into with my machine. I can emai they to you if you don’t mind. Or you can checkout my Facebook page it’s Elite Earthworks LLC in Joplin MO. I’m thinking of making a CZcams channel after watching all your videos! Keep up the great work man!
If you prefer hyd. pilot controls then you should have loved Takeuchi. They are the only one you tested with hyd. pilot controls. All other brands you tested have Eletric/hydraulic controls. It is cheaper and easier to produce Eletric/hydraulic controls, but Takeuchi refuses to switch. It is one of their name to fames with their instant precise true Hydraulic pilot controls.
+Kyle Riegle Tak didn't go to elec over hyd.
Kubota 95-2s is my favorite skid steer I have owned.
Hey Kyle. we have a SVL90 first gen... in the market as well for a new one! I like the 95 but dont want the DEF.. I went to Bobcat as well and my sales guy seems to think the T740 will run or be better then our 90s???? The 740 Is DPF but no DEF..
Hey, Kyle I've got a question, hopefully I can get a reply on your most recent video.
I am looking to get into the excavation business, I have a about 4 years overall experience running equipment from a Bobcat T300 to a John Deere 350 excavator. I currently work for a family operated excavation company that's been around for a long time. We have had lots of rain and snow here recently and I have been out of work. I am considering looking for some bobcat work or something where I can rent the machine and do the work. Should I go and ask other excavation contractors in my area to throw some work my way if it's too small for them to deal with or whatever the case may be? Or should I just put ads up everywhere?
Hey man, no response from him, felt like saying something. sometimes word of mouth is always best but try and run adds in as many free places as you can. Once you've made a bit look and ask around and read reviews on local advertisements sites. They take a while to start working but seems to help out in the end. Good luck bud
If I'm not mistaken I believe you can change the speed of the hand controls. Lap bar down, yellow button hold down and press park brake release, use the thumb scroller to adjust. These machines are monsters that compare right with the CATS.
Thank you for the review. I have a T-650 74 HP. I like it for what I do but am looking to trade up for the T-770. Another 18 HP and bigger boom. You helped sway my decision. I like the CAT and the Kubota but will consider staying with Bobcat. Thanks again for the review.
Welcome thanks for watching!
When can u start to up load videos again
What do you think about the kubota svl95-2 and def fluid
Was a t870 not available to test?
Aside from the stalling error... I️ gotta day I️ think this may be the smoothest looking machine (from the outside) that you have operated in this test. How’d the stability compare to that of the 299d? My biggest concern with the Cat was the internal shaking in the cab and the overall balance of the machine was flawed due to the suspension: a long day in the Cat 299d seems like a sore back to me.
In that machine (299) it would be a sore back for sure, I had a sore back for over a year when I ran one. My Cat rep watches and says there is a solution to that would help balance/smooth out the ride. The cat has great balance as far as lifting capability - and I really like how nimble and small the 299 feels compared to the others - wish it had a bigger cab lol!
Will you review a John Deere 333e track ?
Like Colton said Bobcat has multple buckets available. The low profile bucket is probably what you have on your kubota. Where Bobcat shines is attachments, their attachments are unmatched as far as selection and durability.
agreed. I had a bunch of footage not that I didn't put in the video where I was pissed about the bucket lol. then I figured it out. haha.
Brian Gard
Some of their attachments are brilliant. We tried a bobcat 4n1 bucket and what a heap of shit. We've come to the conclusion that the machines are great but American buckets are shit.
Are you done making CZcams videos
I think you pick:
Kubota, bobcat, tac, cat or Kubota, tac, bobcat, cat. Just depends if you like to tank size of tac, it wouldn't be a good thing for me though
Why do you think it wouldn’t be go for forestry??
Where’s the video
I have not experienced it myself, but isn't Bobcat's attachments fairly proprietary? That is crucial when you have several different brands in the inventory and wanting to swap a forestry head or anything to a different brand requires some wiring and computer wizardry I am told. I know there are adapters but I'd rather not deal with that. ALTHOUGH, Bobcat DOES make many things the others DON"T have.
For what these cost a backup camera should be standard. I would insist that the dealer include one.
ITs available. haha. total OTD price was 89,000 for this unit.
Was there an indication on your instruments?
Yes it showed a code - cant remember what it was though. Dealer apologised and said it was something they were aware of and needed to address.
For some reason, Bobcats in general seem to run out of power and seem less responsive than what I would like. I have time mostly on a T650 and T870. I think the cab is pretty tight as well and I don't care for the swing out front door. The biggest plus for me with a Bobcat is serviceability. I'm considering setting up a test as similar as possible to yours with the Takeuchi TL10 that I operate. Would you be interested in the results or maybe a video?
Sure would love to see/ or get results. The bobcat does win big on serviceability!
I think all machines have something that people don't like.
Hey Kyle really like your videos, any chance of a JCB 320t review? I'm interested to know your thoughts on it.
The JCB & Deere dealer are the same here, I reached out to them and no response so it doesn't look like Ill review them this round. Plus the snow has set in pretty good and with 4-6 inches we have it wouldn't be a fair test. IF the JCB still has the single arm boom and the side door as it did years ago when I rented one I would say I am not a fan and wouldn't buy due to the door location and single boom. just my 2 cents. Thanks for watching!
Aren't they making one with an extendable boom? Not sure if it wants to be a telehandler or a skid steer.
Yeah it looks awesome, I don't think it has high flow on full extension though.
Computer/ hydraulic auto shut down due to overloading the engine hydraulics. Try to keep a more consistent rpm especially when pushing too much fill/ under load conditions. Listen to the engine under load when you have the bucket full and are still trying to push the entire pile, if the engine stalls under such a load engine damage can occur. Brain shuts down to prevent damage and tell operator, back off I only can do so much. Remember the engine is only putting out 2/3 to 1/2 rpm under load that means less torque/ hp while your maxing out all hydraulic systems.
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had it at full rpm when going through the pile. First time I've ever had a modern skid steer stall out on me. - The dealer did say its' been having an issue with that so there is definitely something wrong with it. thanks for watching!
I have a lot of time in a t650 and 299d2, one week we demoed a t770 and it flew your comment about track speed seems off to me I’ve never been in a machine that will literally drift in a corner spinning the tracks
You stalled it why it shut off
What’s up Kyle? You fall off the map?
One thing that kind of pushed me away from the Bobcat, and trust me, I REALLY LIKE THEM, was the fact that you are kind of locked into their attachments. their controls and wiring are proprietary, which makes it difficult to select some other brand of implement if it is computer/electrical controlled. Now you CAN buy adapter cables and all, but I really hate to putz with it, especially if we are talking electronics. I know you are shying away from the Tak in your comments, and I'd lay even money that you choose the Kubota SVL-95 as your next workhorse, and I get that. It was what I was looking at buying originally, but in the end, I wanted something that is going to work every day, and not spend time in the shop. Not saying the SVL-95 wouldn't fit the bill, but there are other factors at play too. Like TAK's mini Ex. Which outguns the Kubota KX080 by a wide margin. Lastly one thing to keep in mind, I am not making a living running one of these. This is all for my personal use and my needs are very different than the average guy who wants to put food on the table.
very much agree with you on that you're locked into their attachements and platform. thanks for watching Gary!
I work for a grading company and I handle all the small scale grading meaning I run all the skid loader work. at this point we run 2 cat 259d's and the reliability on them is beyond mediocre literally every other week on Thursday I'm taking a machine to the shop and having to get it fixed even though I'm meticulous on maintenance. they have fast hydraulics and a smooth ride but terrible reliability and visibility hence their shitty back up cam. so my question is simply from a reliability standpoint and a 12 hour operating day what is the most RELIABLE machine on the market that gives the least problems?
how many hours? There has been great reviews on them. I have one also but I bought mine brand new. What is it that breaks?
@@Techman-pt5zs they're 2 years old with about 15 to 17 hundred hours so not that old I mean run like hell but still pretty new and I tend to have a ton of track problems speed sensors that throw the park break on tensioners that blow out tracks fall off like nobody's business have had to put 2 new motors in one ac and heat stopped working one day the pins always give me trouble and those are just the issues off the top of my head
What did the dealer say about it shutting off?
Brian Gardiner some code/fault w the computer controlling the hydraulic system.
Kyle Riegle so the computer stalled the machine ?
Yes.
it has a no stall setting
Kyle are you alive or what
I know others have asked but isn't the 770 a decent amount smaller than other machines in your test?
physical weight wise it is...coming in at 10,200lbs (or close to it) - its the lightest out of the bunch for sure. It is a 92 hp machine which does make it reasonably comparable to the others. Lot of good things about the bobcat. Too bad it stalled out. They didn't have a t870 available so this was as close as we could get. (870 only weighs more so I understand)
Kyle Riegle yes the t870 weighs in at 12,698 lbs and has 100 hp and from my experience its a beast
Buy does the t870 have a cell phone holder?🤔🤔🤔
Are you done with CZcams?
Does anyone know what happened to Kyle is he OK?
I was wondering the same thing. I was doing some Googleing and came across his Instagram that he keeps updated
I don't have the advantage of being in the driver's seat on this, but judging by the video, with the exception of the stall out, I think the bobcat did pretty well. It seemed to power through the initial hill, the reverse action seemed to me that it was the fastest of the bunch. Bear in mind, that could have been because of the camera location, as you set it up much closer than you did for the others. Also, don't they have an 870? Which may have been more in the Tak Class size wise. I don't know, I really like the Tak after seeing and running one, but one of my main uses will be both mulching and lifting trees onto my sawmill. I would like to see an SVL95 run through the same tests to see if it has just that little bit more to push it over the top. Right now I am leaning towards the Tak for a couple reasons. Durability as you said with the larger pins and boom IS a major factor. Forestry mulching is HARD on equipment so that is important. Lastly, I am very old school where bigger is always better. I have a dump truck, so towing isn't an issue. I ordered the TaK 290 Mini Excavator already, and I feel comfortable with the same brand for the track loader as well. Definitely the 12. Just wish I didn't have to wait for the Mini Ex to come in. Bummer.
I learned that TAK has the TL12V which is the vertical lift and the standard TL12 that is radius lift - tree farmers like the standard radius lift better than the vertical for loading flatbed trucks. but if you ever load your dump with it, i'd def want the vertical. The TAK is huge...I think the TL12 should really be in a class of its own IMO. I also think a better comparison would have been with the TL10 on this round but hindsight is always that. As far as the Kubota I have heard by quite a few people that the newer 95 has a lot more ummfff than the 90. Thanks for watching!
thanks for the advice on the vertical versus radius lift. I agree for my needs the vertical is the way to go. I don't haul a lot with the dump truck, but when I do, I try to use the right tool. My sawmill is set up stationary now, with a long infeed set of rails so I don't see any problem with using the vertical in that capacity.
Why not the 870?
Didn't have one available.
I just made a similar test video using a Takeuchi TL10. If you check your CZcams messages, I sent you a link to the video. Thanks
Get a case sv340
only thing I don't like on bobcat is flicking the bucket. I just like new holland more
Braden Dickerson new holland is the worst machine ive run
There is too many variables each person is different and has different situations there all machines with moving parts there All going to break down do ur own assessment for reliability, fuel consumption, serviceability, dealer,parts availability, Kubota is very hard on fuel