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The Tragic Consequences of Secret Social Transition w/Vernadette Broyles | Ep 170
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
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Stella and Sasha welcome distinguished attorney Vernadette Broyles to the show offering a rich and informative discussion for anyone interested in the evolving dynamics between schools, families, and the legal system around issues of gender identity and parental rights; valuable resources for parents and concerned adults; and practical recommendations on how parents can be proactive and better equipped to protect their children, empowering them to navigate these challenging situations with confidence and clarity.
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Lawyer here. Kindly provide an official link where I am able to donate to these incredible attorneys, putting their licenses on the line for this extremely contentious and unprecedented area of law. You all are paving the way for other attorneys to step up for what’s right without fear of grievances/ losing their license.
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They're funded by the GOP to help craft anti LGBT legislation along with organisations like the Heritage Foundation et al.
They're not putting their licenses on the line. If they lose cases, they lose cases. They're lawyers.
@@John-tr5hn you have no idea how law licenses work. One toe in the wrong direction with these kinds of cases and you can be disbarred. CT is sending out emails to all bar members asking to not publicly criticize the trump trial bc it would offend the Judicial Branch. It is a huge risk what these lawyers are doing and I seriously applaud them.
@@Soleil5291
Sounds like doctors losing their jobs and their credentials shamed when they spoke the truth about the Covid treatments and the disaster of the same-named vxx
Stella mentioned "preemptive communication with school." I did this ("progressive" private school in Portland, Oregon). I wrote a letter specifically directing staff/faculty to not speak to my daughter (identifying trans-boy) about their gender. The school counselor immediately approached my child concluding their talk with the invitation of confidentiality. My child held this secret inside herself for weeks before she had an emotional breakdown and it spilled out of her. I was undermined by other adults I trusted. In my young 15 yo's mind, I betrayed her. The school has ripped apart the child/mother bond. I could go on. I am living a nightmare!
I feel your pain. Sadly, My husband and I did not have a firm grasp on our own identity as parents and the school ended up taking the lead. My son is 18 and he still lives at home and follows our rules but there is a giant wedge, he is never home. I am so angry at myself for not fighting for my son more. The only thing that keeps me going is my belief in God and his plan for my child. I am now planning on going to the school board to address state policy and trying to find ways to be an "activist" and fight now that I have found more power in my role as mom. I will pray for you and your child.
Pull your child out
you need to change schools immediately. What I learned is that you have no "constitutional rights" protected at private school because you've contracted with that school on the terms that school sets. Read their parent manual & you'll see that their policies. Public schools meanwhile are supposed to follow Constitutional laws, which supposedly afford parents certain rights. So many of us are confronting similar situations. Find a parent support group.
Scary stuff - and perhaps the absolute best reason to get the government out of schools.
I am so sorry this has happened to you and your family. It’s sad that people like Sasha, Stella and counselors like me who would support you as the parent are discouraged from working at or would not be hired by many school systems.
From my experience, having such a talk (46:40) ["beware of adults trying to talk to you about your body and questioning your gender"] with your child at 14 is about 5 years too late. My biological daughter was 9-10 yo when she starting questioning her sex and then came out as a Trans boy (FtM) at 11. We had no idea of this phenomenon, and that the state (CA), schools, counselors, teachers, therapists and many doctors were already "Trans captured" and were actively pushing our child down the road of medicalized transition. We tried to resist, but the only option other than active affirmative medicalization was to "wait and see" under the idea that most children grow out of gender dysphoria as they proceed thru puberty (a reasonable idea). But now that she turned 18, she started HRT (Testosterone) she got thru Planned Parenthood and she has moved away from home and is currently 100% out of touch with us. My opinion of the "wait and see" approach is that it is a method of pacifying Trans critical parents until the kids turn 18 and are no longer under the influence of their parents when they can go ahead with the child's own plans to transition. All the therapy, school counseling, and socialization of our daughter as a male keep our kid brainwashed until they turn 18. Those forms of brainwashing coupled with Internet access (provided through the public schools reliance on computer based training w/o much "parental controls" to prevent them from accessing phornography and Trans captured social media sites and apps) where kids get informed of strategies like what to say to parents, therapists and doctors to insure they are treated as "Trans identified" kids and will receive the treatments they want, how to write letters (and what to say) when coming out to parents, and how to reassure parents as they approach 18 that they may be self-desisting from their Trans identity by dressing more girly, exposing more flesh (rather than wearing hoodies in the middle of hot CA summers), wearing lipstick and painting nails, and having a boy friend since 16 1/2 yo. My wife and I were betting that our child was desisting and would turn out "normal". However, 3 months after turning 18 we realized she was on Testosterone after her voice dropped, her body hair got thick and darker, and her facial hair became very noticeable. Shortly after being confronted about this, our daughter packed up and moved in with her boyfriend and their family who are much more Trans accepting than we are. Why does the State and Federal government support breaking up American families???
I’m so sorry. I hope she detransitions soon, before anything is too permanent.
Heartbreaking mate. I find the partners and enablers very bizarre in this.
This story is a good example where I think the people who say, when you're 18 you can do what you want, are wrong.
If this is too personal then don't answer but are you able to speak with those around her? Is it no contact with the bf and family too?
"Why does the state and federal government support breaking up families?" - because they have adopted the world view of this cult. Only a few people can resist indoctrination. It's like invasion of the body snatchers. They are after your children.
My daughter is 17 and stopped talking to me too. There’s a trend now where these kids are promoting the idea of going no contact with parents if they challenge any of the ideology. It’s no small number of parents who are going through this. I sincerely hope this spell breaks soon and things work out with your daughter.
@@Mrsilic414It's no small number.
I could tell that this guest has a different worldview than I do, and so many times I was tempted to turn off the conversation just because it's easy to discount each other-- jeez I'm so glad that I didn't. So many EXCELLENT points came up here, and I SO appreciate what critical and careful listeners Stella and Sasha are.
As a mom of 4 school-age kids, I have taken all these pointers to heart and they have helped. Thank you Vernadette, Stella, and Sasha.
Haven’t watched the vid yet but this is exactly why I make myself listen to others’ worldviews sometimes. I appreciate you sharing your effort to stretch out of your comfort zone 💓
Agree. We can't be right about everything all the time (much as I'd like to be.) Listening to people that you disagree with and steel manning their arguments helps you consolidate the things you do believe to be true, and jettison that stuff that isn't robust enough to hold on to.
Sasha, my son, at 17, left my home after I asked him to look at the possible medical complications of hormones. He went to live with his dad and I was villainized by a psychiatrist and an entire medical team at children’s hospital. I am divorced and my son went to go live with his dad. I attempted to get an attorney to get my lawful custody back and no one would touch it. I have NEVER abused my child in any way, and even asked my son to please try social transition and see how it felt before putting substances into his body that can harm him. His father has even said that my son is lost despite now being on hormones.
So, please don’t assume that all of these kids are abused, neglected, or otherwise not treated well by their parents if the parents are assumed to be the villain and are treated poorly!
For the record, Sasha is one of the strongest advocates for parents in this whole scandal. She definitely does not assume these kids are being abused.
@@widerlenspod thank you for saying this. Some of her questions and comments were off putting for a person who was wrongfully accused and villainized and maybe I shouldn’t have felt that way. I may be too sensitive, but I’ve lived some stuff I never thought I would. It’s been a nightmare not seen in my wildest dreams
@@lpeacelovefaith9566 I don't think you came across that way. It seems like an entirely natural response.
This ideology often seems to focus on making family out to be the villains. "No contact" is one of the mantras.
For those of us not directly affected by this we want those difficult questions asked. I don't think anyone blames someone in your position for being "sensitive" however. It must be an incredibly difficult position to be in when you only try to do the best by your child and everyone else works against that.
@@robertmarshall2502 thank you. It’s like living inside a dystopian novel.
@@lpeacelovefaith9566 Have you written about your situation anywhere, or contacted any support groups?
Truely dystopian. I can’t believe I’m hearing this.
My daughter started with all this during the pandemic when all the schools were closed and kids couldn’t go anywhere so we all spent tons of time at home, bored. Of course, she was online way too much, and I was completely naive to what kind of pathology was creeping around in various social media platforms. I had all the parental blocks and tried to keep an eye on everything.
It actually started on a discord server. I had never even heard of discord. Somehow I thought we were still operating in the LGB world of the 90’s and early 2000’s because I wasn’t chronically online. When I started going down the rabbit hole I was absolutely dumbfounded that kids were getting sucked into the complete mind warp of postmodern deconstructionism and queer theory. Not only that, but grown adults who were in the roles of teachers and therapists were actually going along with this like it was all perfectly rational and sane. I had no idea we were surrounded by so many gullible people.
So, of course, since I’m calling out the naked emperor, I’m now the crazy bigot who’s irrational. Now she refuses to talk to me and moved in with her dad. We’re all living in the upside down. If I could change anything from back then it would be to remove internet access, but I’m wondering if she would have found it anyway through friends. Teenaged girls are going through some sort of group psychosis right now.
The fact the school didn't tell the parents about the first -cide attempt (let alone the rest) is absolutely criminal.
They didn't find out about the first attempt until they investigated the second attempt.
In addition to pursuing gender transition the biggest mistake transitioners can make is alienating themselves from their loving family. There are bad family situations however for many they are essentially alienating themselves from an essential part of their life. Abandon a loving family one cuts off part of one's self. I have witnessed the loneliness and sadness of those who are alienated from their family. I am a former adult male to female transexual and am so thankful that my parents(now deceased) loved me unconditionally.
I'd be interested in knowing more about your story.
By all means tell me to get lost if it's too personal.
Thank you for your work in combating gender idiocy. I have a young nephew in public school. I don't want him exposed to this garbage.
Get him out! Keep seeing young "trans kids" and the blue hair is almost a required signature with this cult.
Yes because the answer is because the medics said you'd kill yourself if we stopped you and child services said they'd take you away from us 😢😭
Stella and Sasha! Two of my most favourite people in the gender identity arena ❤ it’s always a good episode with you guys.
Where did politicians get the idea that pre-teen minors should be allowed to "self-id" gender identity? I would think a Judge Gorsuch would find the definition of "gender identity" totally circular (self-referential) and therefore meaningless.
We should all be allowed to self-ID gender identity. We should be able to dress how we want and talk to who we want and sleep with who we want. It's self-IDing sex and pretending that gender and sex are the same thing that's the problem.
@@John-tr5hnI agree with every word except your first sentence ... I have such issues with seeing "gender" as Identity.
Vernadette is a remarkable woman! People like her will go done in history as heroes against this pernicious ideology.
Vernadette is brilliant and articulate. Thank you for highlighting her work. I will be donating to her efforts.
Vernadette is a goddess. I remember two years ago when she told me I had leadership qualities. I didn’t believe her, but now I see she was right. Women like her and Sasha and Stella model resilience, truth, and channeling passion into worthy action.
Another great episode. You are getting better and better.
It's time we stopped allowing others to tell these four lies to our children:
1. God creates us as gendered ‘identities’ separate to our bodies, and sometimes puts us in ‘wrong’ bodies.
2. We can change our reproductive category by taking hormones and removing our genitals.
3. It’s kind to agree with someone who hates their own body and to support them to self-harm.
4. Women are no more than a feeling men can have, a costume men can wear, or a badge men can put on.
Teachers and doctors who tell children these lies should be removed from their professions.
For years, i worked with juveniles in jail. I couldn't imagine a kid who was being sex trafficked and sexually abused being sent into the juvenile system! Housed with young males with oppositional defiant disorder and other mental health issues! Young females in the juvenile system can be rough and mean to their peers, and have ODD or BPD. That poor girl should have been returned to her parents in the first place. I can't imagine the amount of trauma she has. 💔
43:48 this bit funny. I got so into this subject my kids were so tired of hearing about it they tried to get me to promise to have a "trans free new year!" 😅 that was for me to stop talking about it. I'm not transphobic or a terf but am against the ideology and the grooming and the AGPs in girls restrooms. So I've found the solution is not caring about being called a transphobe or terf because ivthink those labels are throw around to try to censor people who are open minded but disagreeing with the ideology
Haha my friends feel the same about me. Once I got down the rabbit hole with this topic I simply could not stop. I bet Ive watched every video, interview, podcast, etc, related to this topic. It’s appalling but also the fact that people have been so captured by something thats not only a complete lie but absolutely hurts people in so many ways is mindblowing. This is probably something I’ll follow until the ideology is upended.
@@Rashellyjo lol
This is kind of me also.
@@Rashellyjo 100% down the rabbit hole.
I think others just simply don't want to confront the issue. It's one of those where you either stand up and scream at ppl or you just ignore it. I kind of understand just burying you're head in the sand unless it affects you directly.
But the more I look into this the worse it gets. I recently stumbled across a DIY trans subreddit for example with thousands of members. I think the tide is turning in some areas but the long term effects on teens not to mention the women and children who are victims of s abuse due to the destruction of single-sex spaces will be felt for a long time.
“TERF” just means “SHUT UP WOMAN”
A 12 year old girl put in a center for disturbed boys!? How on earth can that adult in charge live with themselves?
16:48 it’s gross that schools are not considering how other kids are going to react to this. I don’t think she should have been bullied for “identifying” as a boy, but allowing her into male spaces and not considering that she really isn’t a boy and may be vulnerable to bullies, specifically those who know she’s obviously not a boy, is a set up for further bullying and abuse. These kids need to be protected from what they don’t know or understand and it’s a shame the school staff put her in that situation assuming that the people around her will accept her as a boy.
It's an incredible violation of basic safeguarding. The rules go out the window when trans enters. Women are vulnerable when a male enters their spaces. A teen girl in a space with lots of males doesn't bear thinking about.
@@robertmarshall2502 it’s so mind boggling to me that common sense has left the rooms when it comes to this. It truly doesn’t make sense yo me I feel like the patients have taken over the mental hospital it’s outrageous.
@@Rashellyjo I studied the History of crime and the History of violence. They are overwhelmingly male in focus because in every single society in every single location in every single time period males commit more violence and s crimes and with the latter women and children are overwhelmingly the victims. The idea that uttering magic words either makes to you a safe male around women and children or a female safe from attack is unbelievable. Particularly because we repeatedly see that those suffering gender dysphoria as kids often were abused and are more vulnerable.
@@robertmarshall2502 these people are more convinced that men and women are “socialized” into their behavior and that men are only violent (sometimes) because the patriarchy made them that way rather than believe there are biological and immutable differences between men and women that make women more vulnerable to men. It’s a serious rejection of reality and this will ultimately hurt our society. I really think this is the one thing that will lead to so much destruction if it keeps moving in the direction it is. The whole ideology needs to be destroyed and honestly people need to go to jail.
This truthfully has nothing to do with religion, Catholic, Christian or other. It is a matter of protecting any and all children and families of any religious preference or none at all. This is a matter of protecting children from psychotherapeutic and medical malpractice and harm. It is a scientific matter based on facts, not a religious one.
I did preemptively inform each of my daughter’s teachers and her counselor. In CA I was told No, they will follow what the child wants regardless of what the parent wants or requests! They were calling my daughter by a different name and wanted to use that name when discussing her with me. I flat refused to use that name and told them we are not doing that. It doesn’t matter. They will do what the child wants.
Another great conversation. Vernadette on the case will pave the way for others. Wonderful work. ❤
Do schools ever address the bullying? Were the bullies identified and brought in for counseling or disciplinary action?
Excellent guest! I’m so grateful for her work 💓
My God... I believe that this stuff is embedded in schools, I WAS a member of a gay and lesbian facebook group in my state, and saw a meme posted by a woman who worked for my local school disctrict (As a "parent educator") that stated "If your parents don't accept your identity, I'm your mom now". I exposed this on a few local community pages, and got nothing but harrassment, and "how dare you try to harm her career", etc. etc. I was stunned that someone with access to teenagers at that level would post something like that. But I guess even the local community is so captured, even they say nothing.
This is really good stuff!
Another organization like this is Themis Resource Fund. You should interview someone from there.
These law groups are doing really important work! And hopefully changing precedent.
What an amazing episode! I bought the Church guide, and might ask if my priest would like one.
Stay on the lookout for our episode with Lynn Chadwick from Themis. It will be out in a few weeks!
@@widerlenspod wow, that is just excellent news!
She recently partnered with Benjamin Boyce, who has interviewed a significant number of detransitioners. Themis is documenting their stories on his behalf. I hope she talks about it during your conversation. These are really important stories that people need to read about.
I can't believe I just learned that you (Sasha) have interviewed with the Boyce of Reason at least 14 times, and Stella somewhere between 1 and 14 times. So of course you know all about the detransitioners he's interviewed.
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Thank you Vernadette for pointing out the bigotry of those who assume and proclaim that committed Christians are necessarily abusive, unreasonable, punitive, etc. It is bigotry and unconstitutional for people and agencies to refuse services and rights to “religious” people.
The anti-christian movement has been going on for a long time. There has been insidious and covert messaging in entertainment, politics and the education system as well as the main stream media.
There has been an antichristian messaging going on for a very long time. It is insidious, the use of subconscious messaging in the entertainment industry, main stream media, schools and goverment agencies has proliferated incrementally since the 80s.
Talk to your kids about this as early as possible because the schools are! Definitely way before you give them a smart phone or leave them alone with TV remotes!
I got caught out when my daughter was asked at 11 to announce her sexual orientation and ‘gender’ at school! She was confused and wondered how so many of her classmates seemed to know. Obviously they do not at 11! It started a useful conversation and preparation for what we would do if the school ever asked this again!
Great interview
Sophie Lewis- Abolish the Family
This attitude has a lot to do with what is going on these days.
Why is escapism being promoted over facing the initial problem the child is having? Next question, why are children being granted so much autonomy? It is ridiculous to think a child has the mental falculty or decision making skills to even contemplate their physicality regarding what biologic sex they ate.
22:49 😢 why didn't you stop me? 😢
Wow!!! We will prevail!!! Thank you! I needed that today.
Thanks
Thank you for this very important conversation.
40:00 talking about cultivating a sense of authority. Watching Kellie Jay Keen will give you a master class in this. She's a 4' 9" mamma bear. You DO NOT mess with Posie Parker.
Thanks!
This is horrendous. My sincere wish is that the individuals who facilitated the abuse of these kids and the damaging of these families will one day understand the depth of what they did. Because that would be excruciating for them and the guilt would never let them rest.
CPS, whatever you wanna call it needs to be redone from the beginning reunification is rarely the goal. They did it wrong and must always not just in cases or gender is involved.
Actually, it's the opposite. Family reunification has been the stated goal for years and years and years now. In my limited experience, it's a mixed bag. States love it, though, because if a family will take in a kid, the state doesn't have to pay for that kid's foster care. But I've personally seen horribly abusive extended-family situations in which the kid would have been much better off with an adoptive or foster family than their abusive and/or exploitative blood family.
Thankfully quite a few states have filed lawsuits against the title 9 changes. If your state isn't one of them ask why not and vote accordingly.
I am not even half way through this video and I am horrified at the actions of people supposedly in charge. Those poor kids, my heart is breaking for the families. My grown daughter has bought into this gender ideology ( and yep she was bullied in school, do we see a common theme?) and now I fear for my 4 yr old granddaughter. Will she be subjected to this 10 years from now?
29:29 to refer the gender cult as 'belief system' as a bad thing (which it is), whilst in the next breath you refer to religion beliefs without noting they are belief systems, cults and not based in logic or reality.
Concentrate on helping the child with logic, care, compassion, science - rather than confusing the focus by trying to use a belief system to fix a belief system.
In the field of disability advocacy, the work of Michael Kendrick "The Natural Authority of Parents", has been an important tool for parents learning how to talk to services saying that as a parent they know their children best and have their best interests at heart. This understanding has been important in successful advocacy in safeguarding children against bureaucratic/ government services.
Do you have anything I might share with my daughter who is suffering from SOGD? I’ve talked with her a bit about the negative health consequences to hormones, but I don’t think she believes me. I’m concerned that once she hits 18 in a couple years, she’ll do something she regrets.
I tried to download the letters from their website and did not have luck. It seems like the file downloaded, but nothing opens in Word when I try.
I too tried to download and it seems the file is corrupted… hopefully they will fix it if enough people go looking for it and let them know.
Assuming that religious people are irrational isn't the problem, that's definitional. The problem is not assuming that members of the gender cult are irrational like members of every other cult.
The only "bigotry" against religious people is assuming that they're irrational about everything, which obviously isn't the case. Most religious people act like normal people in most cases on most topics.
For those curious how these cases are going: The Michele Blair case was just Dismissed in it's entirety for failure to state a claim upon which relief can be granted. It's the same reason January Littlejohn's case was Dismissed. Wendell and Maria Perez' case is currently being deferred until the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals rules on the January Littlejohn Appeal Case.
Ah Julie, here you are again trying to discourage funding lawsuits. Are you paid to do this, or is it just a hobby?
Does anyone know of any resources for North Carolina? I have to find a therapist for my teen but am struggling to find anyone trustworthy.
"Let the school system go on to pick on another family not yours." There should be no room for the school system to pick on anyone. All parents need each other. Especially the parents who lack the skills, funds and knowledge to care properly for their children. The support of healthy parents and the rest of our community is vital. People are trying protect their own skin, and I get this, but that is how we ended up here in the first place. A lack of unity and support does far more damage than we might expect. It takes a village to raise the next generation.
If it is good patenting for you to have to prepare your child for the potential eventuality of so many of these dangers, could it really be considered good parenting to send your children into such danger????
"Shocking yet unsuprising" is both a cliche and an accurate description. Is it REALLY that insulting to question religions whose moral law demands, without exception, the death of the gays, kid or otherwise? I think that is a legit thing to consider as a part of the child's overall situation. However it does not warrant parental secrecy, period. An Egyptian ex of mine is still in hiding as his family attempted an honor killing on him for being a gay teen - an entirely different set of circumstances, I know, but still. I hope your essential work gets the attention, exposure and public buy-in that it so desperately needs!
The more I hear about this, the more I think people shouldn’t send their kids to public school. It’s not fair because a lot of schools are great but the bad apples ruin the whole system.
You don’t become “addicted to pot”. I feel like this speaker has a lot of biases that take away from her credibility. When asked about family situations she only says “they’re educated good parents”.
Is it not psychologically addictive?
@@robertmarshall2502 It may be, but there's no way a person could develop a pot addiction within a couple of years. It would take many many years. And if there are no withdrawal symptoms, I don't know that it's addictive.
@@John-tr5hnaccording to Web md it can be addictive and the chances of becoming addicted increase the younger you start using and the higher the frequency of use, also there are many other possible negative side effects on mental health with it's use, again more likely to occur in younger users, so it seems possible to me to become addicted and have significant negative mental health effects including paranoia and losing rational abilities, in a short space of time. It may be uncommon, but perfectly possible.
Developing brains should not be exposed to substances that can have impacta on brain, cognitive, emotional development.
today's "pot" is not the same as in the past. It is much much much stronger. A lot of it is "enhanced" with extracts that are laced into it to boost the THC content. There is now THC induced psychosis. Vaping facilitates this because it's very easy to hide & hence over-indulgence is super easy. My own kid was vomiting compulsively & couldn't eat for days from THC. Luckily I learned from another family, whose child had a psychotic episode from THC & had to be hospitalized for two weeks. We are in a brave new world so far as pot goes.
Thank goodness this child's parents were Catholics.
13:16 - they (w..) themselves, in a certain sense, are based on very superficial characteristics and project a similar way of thinking to others, a la all Catholics are bad parents, etc.
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Yep. The original opponents to "women's rights" tried to warn us that it would harm children ultimately.
They didn't predict this exact method of it playing out, granted
It's not women's rights that are harming children. It's men's rights disguised by trans ideology.
When you say the "original" opponents, how far are you going back? Who are you referring to?
I doubt you are referring to those in favour of single-sex female spaces for example
@@robertmarshall2502 the old theologians with long beards in sepia toned photographs about the time of the Civil War.
The ones with vocabularies the size of Texas.
@@adamwalker2377 Thanks for the reply. I didn't realize you were going back quite so far.
@@robertmarshall2502 what's changed since then on this topic?
Have you two attempted to have a conversation with Jordan Peterson? His apparent expertise on brain physiology and the associative psychological bandwidth of adolescents seems to dovetail well with your program.
I think these ladies are more clued up than JP. I used to be a fanboy, but I’m fed up with JP now. He was great until spring 2020.
@@mrlawilliamsukwarmachine4904 And what is your reasoning? What is there to be fed up with? What happened in 2020 that halted his greatness?
1:00:53 Believing in unproven deities is not a sound logic base to lean on for guiding children needing mental health support.
Keep religion out of the discussion and concentrate on helping the vulnerable children.
Don't send your kids to public school!!!!!! Or
private schools are not any better
I am a bit concerned that you are both wearing ear buds. Do you know the extremely high levels of EMF that these pass through the brain. And that these 'wearables' are all part of the transhumanism agenda to combine humans with the internet. Ear buds are constantly collecting brain and body data from the body, including EEG ( brain patterns) and ECG ( heart) data.
I love and admire the work you are doing. Please consider to look into the issue and implications of ear buds.
There is zero male representation here.
@@iWumbo34 lol
Have u ever seen a thing with 3 or more males talking?
@iWumbo34 There are many episodes with male guests if you scroll through on the channel.
@@briana5772 I wonder if this person would accept a trans man or a trans woman as male enough! 😆 maybe only a panel of cus men will be acceptable 🤣
What is your point? There are a copious amount of podcasts which comprise a couple of male presenters, interviewing only male guests.
A talk regarding women's rights featuring only women? How scandalous!