How to make a V4 solenoid engine
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- In this video I’m making a V4 solenoid engine. Now it has four solenoids the solenoid engine automatically starts running when it is powered. The solenoid engine with one solenoid that I made before needs to be manually started.
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"crankshaft needs time to dry." never in the history of the universe has this sentence been needed until now.
Heard this one before
Your mum says that to me all the time
When you love mechanical engineering but hate oil
or own a lot of drill bits
You must not be American
Ok boomer
@@faroukm4148 he's dutch
Feed and Speed calculations would have helped a lot too.
The man has talent, not just in his engineering skills, but also being able to work on something so small on a bandsaw and still have his fingers.
Eric Swanson i was thinking this so much 😂😂😭😭😭
@@DeadInside24_7 right? Watching that made me nervous.
And fingertips. I was wondering how he didn't burn the crap out of them with those metal bits.
anybody else tired of comments from people who've never worked on shit in their life? oh noo extension cord soo scary watch out it'll trip you
@@EricSwanson1 How many fingers have you cut off that you fawn over people who managed to keep all 10? A bandsaw isn't the same as a skilsaw, dumbfuck.
If only I had access to a tool shed of this preeminence, I could cut all my fingers off.
Ha, I would cut double that amount off.
But how did you cut your toes off too - Doctor talking to me at the ER
My brain cells can handle how to turn on one of the tools so I should be safe...
@@smokeweed856 You'll do well in the future
@@kemakol Let us just hope 😁
Even with a component fastened down, a sharp drill bit can ‘grab’ . We were always taught to back off the drill cutting edges. We did drill many brass components in a manufacturing company and it worked well.
Damn, when that bearing snapped into place at 7:32, that was an extremely satisfying moment.
That's the rational and intelligent side of Tyler1 that escaped his body
got knocked out of him after a bad tackle at football practice.
@@kabalan20 Haha, I heard he was a footballer, but you saw the man and survived the fight, congrats to you
lmao
XD
I didn't see it until I saw this comment...
Now I can't unsee it
Very well done however this wouldn't represent a four stroke engine, rather a (2 stroke) four cylinder engine. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for the heads up. I realized the same after recording
It would be interesting to modify it to be 4 stroke and see how well it runs.
@@daspedal2730 the title says it
theBenski27 he calls it a 4 stroke in the first 15 seconds of the video.
@@dgphi Technically impossible. The only thing that sorta makes it a 4 stroke is it has four "pistons". It isn't using fuel, so every stroke is a power stroke. This would actually be a one stroke engine. The only force pushing the "piston" down is the magnet drawing in another one. The powerstroke pulls the "piston" in versus a fuel engine where the power pushes a piston down.
As a licensed Electrical Engineer I approve this video!! Well done sir, most people don't know how much knowledge and skill it takes to construct something like that. Congratulations!
As someone without a high-school education, I can honestly say it doesn't take much.
I'm honestly thankful we have brilliant minds like this
now build a little transmission, and torque convertor, and let's see if this can drive a tiny vehicle..
Maybe in the future, its a fun project so who knows
@@Thepracticalengineer sweet!
Why would you need a torque converter
@@gabrielwillis9078 The long answer would have something to do with compensating for the lack of a mechanical clutch, and torque multiplication..the short answer would simply be: "why the hell not?"
Being an electric engine, it doesnt need to remain spinning while the vehicle is stationary. That said, I too want to see him make a torque converter
Get this man a bigger following.
Actual good content on this foresaken site.
Hey Ben, Thanks for the compliment! Share it with your friends and we'll get there.
Ok boomer
i read foreskin site
@@anthnylder8136 same lol, I was like hey man I'm intact and proud!
Ben, there's a ton of good content on this site... what are you talking about! Support people like The Practical Engineer, there are so many others too.
You're really creative in finding solutions to make the components you need.
The end result looks really cool!
Great video.
Finding solutions and making it with the tools available is one of the best parts of it for me. Thanks!
I actually watched your workshop tour and made me realized that you don't need big and fancy workshop to make amazing projects. Man, your amazing! Great inspiration! Keep it up! Watching all your videos.
Fascinating to watch an enthusiast use a variety of tools and materials and come up with an educational working model!
Put this engine on an rc car
I love that idea
Tavi 002 That could be fun to do but i don’t think it will fly though
or a tesla
@@wizzlanderhh2522 or a spaceship
Put it in the post to my house. I love it!
There is a video called "electric motor secrets" I believe you can really appreciate. In the video the presenter mentions the potential of a solenoid engine has been overlooked and presents qualities that aren't found in most electric motors.
Thanks! I'll look it up!
Darnit.
Even the most impractical ideas have allready been made into reality before I came to them.
Impracticality is endless
This video is only 16mins. but I can see the effort, hardwork and time you have put into it.
Great work man!!
I'm impressed.
I love this guy. He ain't afraid to poke a little fun at himself. Broken bits, unexpected collisions. Leaves them in to give us a bit of a chuckle while we watch a very interesting build. Great stuff!
'4-stroke' = two crank revolutions per combustion cycle, not the amount of cylinders in an engine.
2+2 = 4 quick maths
Came here to say this. That said, great video.
English isn't this guys first language.
@@chancegregory67 All the more reason to correct him. So he can learn, no ill intent.
@@deanminman here here 👍
IT would be interesting to measure the power output of the engine and perhaps work on an improved variant. I feel that making more precise switches would help a lot in terms of speed and stability.
I think it can certainly be improved. Maybe at a later stage. They are a lot of fun to make
Why don't just use a electric motor...
@@vikeshchand6783 That's what she said XD
Optical switching would be best here, i am certain.
"I'm gonna use this piece of aluminium!"
*grabs random aluminium piece*
hey at least he wasn't using aluminum ;)
The joys of having a machining workshop. The ability to make anything, all you need is the right kind of scrap.
That is usually how that sentence is used, right? xD
I have been a machinist for over 50 years. A tip when drilling brass and copper is to grind a zero degree rake on the cutting
edge of the drill. It won't grab then. just take the sharp edge off it. It may take a little longer, but, you won't break drills and it won't grab the material.
Thanks! I learned that too now 😂
I like how he shows everything in extreme detail and takes time to explain each process. With the exception of the quick snapshot of the wiring on the bottom side where he was installing transistors.
When the motor started I was like wow soo relaxing...
It's good
Could you actually power a car with a scaled up solenoid engine?
In some way yes. But I don't think it will be very powerful or efficient
Yeh not very powerful
yea sure you can. It would be just for fun though as its not efficent.
You could make a aci fi looking hypercar though with a v12 solenoid engine.
The Practical Engineer what do you think about trying? Do you think with testing and research that you could make an effective solenoid engine?
i think it is to complex and expensive in comparison to EM, a lot more moving parts, much larger in size for same power and it needs lubricaton for moving parts wich adds additional complexity, and also you would put giant magnets in metal cars... maybe not so good idea....
Amazing build! Just one correction: stroke is not a zylinder(piston). You had built 1 piston then 4 piston engines. Both of your engines are 2 stroke. A stroke is one complete linear move of a piston
Thanks! Stroke is more related to the actual combustion cycle right?
@@Thepracticalengineer Exactly! Good job, keep going.
Was searching for this comment.
The Practical Engineer yes sir. Two stroke would be more often found on dirt bikes (sound real raspy) and four strokes in more street vehicles. Four strokes go down and up twice to complete one full combustion sequence. While two stroke do it in to. Exhaust gassed leave slightly after combustion occurred, and early on the compression stroke, mixed air would flow in.
Thank you for posting this. Or else i would of.
When I was in the navy I worked in the machine shop of a submarine tender. We had a crankshaft lathe for making crankshafts from scratch out of a solid piece of forged steel as well as a crank grinding lathe. I was one of the lucky ones to be trained on that equipment. We also had a cam grinding machine with hundreds of patterns.
I designed one of these over 20 yrs ago. Called it the Pulse engine just using magnetic pulses to move pistons that turn a crankshaft. I'm glad its finally been done and sad I wasn't able to get the idea to catch on
You should have made some conclusions. About how efficient the motor is. Measure the power. Compare efficiency to a brushed engine. And try to find a way to make it more efficient.
How am i gonna measure that
By measuring the RPM, the torque, the power consumption, maintenance, and the cost either in the long or short term
Inefficient as hell :D
Well, what you saw at the end was a motor running at 0% efficiency.
You do that lazyass lol
I've found a jewel among the rough! This is a fantastic. You, Mr. Practical Engineer, have a new Subscriber; not only because you've show all of the steps needed to make a project like this come together, but also because of your prize-worthy smile. I'll be watching for more great content like this from you! Much love from myself here in Canada
The perfectionist in me really wants to spend the day wrapping those better lol
Same here... Triggered my OCD.
Something he did that is very important: When he drilled the first hole in this video, notice that the drill bit did not turn. Only the brass piece turned, with drill bit remaining still. That is the best way to ensure the hole is drilled perfectly in the center. As long as the drill bit doesn't wobble, the hole will be in the center every time. Great video. Very cool design.
People who know...Will know how much effort you put into making these and film it / edit it. Amazing videos thank you for sharing .
Found you invert it to make power? Like replace the iron rods with magnets
I'm putting this on my idea list. Thanks!
Use neodymium magnets as the pistons. Make the magnets slide on nylon rings either end of the magnets to minimize friction as they slide in and out of the coil pack. Use both push and pull cycles on each cylinder (invert polarity to push the magnet back down). A better winding design will give a stronger magnetic field when charged.
The engine layout (inline 4, V-4, Radial 4 etc) doesn't matter at all if the crankshaft is right.
A good novelty for sure but too lossy to be practical
Yea to get .2 hp
@@K10wNs-Shed great idea :)
wish we had some numbers to go with the change in torque from adding extra cylinders
kira angle why. .?
keep your quality up and you'll get a gold play in a year
Great vids. Great projects. The ideas are the hardest bit.
Note:- Center drills are commonly used in engineering, center pops are not used to position the drill.
Get some center drills, no 1 is too small, no 2 or 3 will suit you.
Nice to see that every part you made from scratch and precision counts as well.
So this is Tesla’s secret engine development program
@Marrowbones until it does
Ah, so this is what they put in Teslas
You must be joking but if you are not, no that is not the electrical motors they put on teslas. This type of electric motor is used in no car, afaik is not used anywhere, is just a proof of concept (to show that you can make a piston based electric motor) but afaik is very inefficient and not powerful enough, compared to normal (no pistons only a shaft) DC/AC electric motors and piston based combustion engines.
@@Argoon1981 was joking. But appreciate the information anyway haha I still learned something new!
@@Argoon1981 its not powerfull. Oke, but what if we made the bigger one with more wattage let say 1000 watts
Nope
I want to see a really big version of this but a v6
This guy should be known more on CZcams
The danger close band saw action kept me on the edge of my seat!
Now... you need to make a conversion kit for an LS V8 or other popular motor. : )
The next logical step would be to make a working solenoid radial engine
lol
Its on my list
Yes we have them .it's called electric motor Lol
Or a W18.
Radial, wankel, or aero rotary?
Looks like There are actually 2 Agent 47s
Jerry is not agent 47
Thank you for building this. I had the same idea in the late 80s. I of coarse had no tools and no skill so it never got done. I love being able to see it actual could have worked.
You are a fine machinist and wood worker. Very interesting project. Nice work man.
instead of glue, set screws could be used for the rods. dope video
Yeah that was my other option. Liked the glue a lot though
Brazing or soldering the crankshaft would make it stronger, and, more importantly, with the use of some wooden jigs it could be much straighter.
4"stroke" has nothing to do with it being 4 cylinder. the strokes refers to the 2 or 4 stages each piston/cylinder goes through.
Clearly a language issue, not intelligence.
Not saying that you're wrong but it's entirely possible to be very good at one thing (designing and building things from metal) and bad at another (vocabulary).
I've personally worked for someone with a PhD who didn't know how to change a light bulb.
So, it is a two-stroke V4.
I thought the same. I was wondering how 4 strokes would translate to a magnetic piston.
V4 is the cyclinder arrangement/orientation - one could have flat-4 as in the VolksWagen Variant 1600 from the '70s where the pistons were diametrically opposed.
Not sure why CZcams suggested this to me, But now that I watched it. Gad it did. So subbing to this creativity. LOVE IT
Dude has mad skills but also lots of interest and dedication! Kudos!
I've been wanting to make something like that since i was 8.
"Electric engine is too simple. No engineer can have job security with this! Let's complicate!"
Instructions unclear:
Made a thermonuclear bomb
😯
Bro I had the same problem I wonder when he’ll help us
You are my hero. My kid loved it too. would be cool if you had a voice overlay saying what tool you were using!
I've thought about this idea myself but lack the tools to make it happen. My idea was to make pistons of permanent magnets on the tops and electromagnets attracting and repelling the magnets to make the drive. You could enclose the chambers like a real piston to provide some compression and spring for the return motion after the pull.
That thing is awsome it would be cool if u made a v8 tho
Watch the video twice and you've seen all steps to make it a v8
@Johan Rodrigues Nah mae a w16
@@thenthson open up four tabs and press play at the same time for all four
@@mackk123 that'll do. For now I guess.
@@Thepracticalengineer lol
The higher the voltage the faster it goes? It like to see this in real cars in the feature.
Btw you should say piston not stroke see stroke is how many linear movements the piston makes from fire to fire
I realised the same after filming..
wow. i have all these tools in my university's workshop, but i have never seen someone do a project as cool as this one on them before!
That's soooo cooool!!!!!! It sounds a lot like a diesel combustion engine. Looks and works great!!!
Thanks for letting me see this build!!!
Terry
Racine, WI
HUGE missed opportunity to make a cam shaft and a pulley system, that wouldve been epic to have all that on top of the motor adding to asthetic.
Congratulations you have three likes
@@redtomahawk04*
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6
And now 7
Let's get this to a 50
When you're playing Ark and you have all your essentially equipment (Fabricator, Generator, etc.) all stacked in a 2x2.
Ark blows
i got a metal sliver in my finger just watching this.
Your craftsmanship is amazing.
And so is your accent.
Thanks! I worked hard on perfecting it. Both 😂
Nice shop and build. Greater complexity adds greater "wow factor" ..consider a few modifications for your next build. Use "shorter" length journals and PRESS the journals into the crank counterweights (correctly timed) and PRESS the crank end shafts into the outer counterweights, ..this will shorten and stiffen the crankshaft. Cut a flywheel for the back of the crank with four small holes, then press in four small Neodymium disc magnets (correctly timed). Make a timing plate with an alignment pin to the center of the flywheel and attach to the wooden base. Cut a circular/rotatable mount that indexes on the pin, the mount will hold four Hall effect sensors (adjust the timing of the mount and lock with a screw) ..the Hall sensors will trigger the FET's and coils.
How did you figure out how to place the lobes to get the “fire” timing right?
Basically he aligned the crankshaft farthest reach of the rod and offset it by little clockwise as timing where the coil will turn on to pull the rod.
Would you believe it was luck?
Basically put the first one at "top dead center" and adjust it, and then offset them by 90 degrees by the "firing order"
@@samwagner31 "firing"? 😂
Robert Lawrence yes. Obviously not an actual firing event, that’s why I put it in quotes, but for the sake of balance, you’ll want to have opposing solenoids “firing” so there is, in fact, and order that should be used.
It looks and sounds great but the alignment just wasn't there, so many wiggling parts which increase your friction and affect the inertia :(
nope, it was hard to get the crankshaft all perfectly aligned this way
@@Thepracticalengineer More precise tolerances and actual press fit instead of lock tite fit would have helped you. Or the actual best would have been machining a one piece crank shaft.
Sad to see that you dont wind them coils pretty, when all the rest is so nice to look at...
It's not so easy to wind them neatly 😯
The only way i would ever buy an electric car is if it was in this format giving me the ability to control the car. Sweet vid bro.
- Master Mechanic
- Aerospace Mechanic
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A seriously talented individual.
This this guy just over-engineered an aquarium pump.
I mean technically it’s an electric engine that sounds... good?!
LOL yeah if I ever get an electric car I want one that makes vroom vroom noises xD
Its cool but, apart from making a noise its no where near as efficient or powerful as an electric motor.
@@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi Efficiency wasn't the point though.
And has shitty efficiency as a consequence. There is a reason why it is not done this way.
@@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi what are all the things that make it less efficient than a motor (having a similar power draw)?
I'm making a reciprocating saw inspired by this video. So any ideas would be appreciated.
It is beautifully made, but why does the flywheel dance?
Crankshaft not balanced
For the same reason that your car vibrates
It is practicing for prom.
Because he made a four cylinder crankshaft out of separate pieces, made the holes on a drill press and Loctited the parts together? He's done well to make something that rotates!
Give this man a medal!!!!
This deserves as many views as any of the top youtube vids
I wanna make a rc with an engine like this what kinda electrical supply would b needed
a wall plug
Could the rods be replaced with a magnet to power them.
If the rods were to be magnetic, the timing on each contact had to be pretty precise to avoid the magnets dragging and subtracting from the momentum. But, it would work, and this could be converted into a generator, just like most DC motors can.
The rods are magnetic when they are in the EM field of the solenoids, perfectly adapting to the field.
Sterby jr. the rods are not magnets. They are simply metal rods, that become affected by the electromagnetic force created by the coil when the power is turned on.
The force created is much stronger than a permanent magnet.
But a magnet passing through the coil will induce a current to flow in the copper wire.
No one :
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ok boomer
@@brancodev not how that works
Great idea, well executed. The electrical pulses could also be provided by either an Arduino or Raspberry Pi. The code would be the same as for a stepper motor. (well documented How To's)That eliminates the mechanical 'brushes' distributor. The timing (motor speed & direction) would be programmable or controlled with a pot, even over WiFi.
Now, you have the beginnings of a unique RC vehicle.😎
That's what I call quality content! I am also an engineer (medical systems) and like to do such projects in spare time. Like to see your work!
Black panther would be like:
"And get this man a million subs"
It would run smoother if the flywheel wasn't offset by a centimetre
The whole crank was off, as he glued it by hand and not in a perfectly square jig.
like 90% of the people are not going to make this
99%
Probably 100%
@@smartjunayd there is a 100% chance that someone made it after watching this video
N727yt N Lol
99% dont have the accessories to cut shape and make hole in that metal
All of your tools sound sick.
When drilling a rod in a lathe, make sure that the rod does not protrude more than around 2.5cm-3cm or the amount you want to part off plus a little extra. Your rod was quite eccentric and that might increase the size of the drilled hole.
who needs brushed dc motors when u got this
Exactly
Well this thing isn’t gonna fit in the vacuums motors I fix. Nor will it be good at turning the fans to create suction in the vacuum.
@@Zulfburht it was a sarcastic comment but ok
Scelly and it was a sarcastic response to your comment.
@@Zulfburht ight
It’s 4 cylinder, not 4 stroke. 4 stroke refers to the cycles of intake, compression, combustion and exhaust in a gas engine.
Its not a four stroke... More like a 2 stroke but with 4 cylinders
Not a mechanical engineer or anything but this here is great content, love your videos man.
Very entertaining experiment. For winding coils You can use a special device for fishermen.
It's an electric motor that sounds like a model A engine. 😜
Neat. But someone needs to explain the value of a centerdrill to him....
You keep saying "four-stroke" instead of four-cylinder"
hopefully he meant 4-cylinder lol because this thing is very much a 2-stroke design
@@Jmoneysmoothboy It's actually a single stroke since strokes are counted per power strokes. So a car is four stroke because it has one power stroke for every four strokes. Two stroke engines have one power stroke for every two. This electrical four piston motor is a single stroke affair since there is a power stroke on every stroke. The electromagnetic field, I believe pushes and pulls that rod as it switches polarity.
@@vripiatbuzoi9188 at 14:25 it sounds to me like he means it's an on/off contact, not a reversal of polarity.
@@gimmeanicecream9228 Then what brings the piston back? I see no spring and when he was testing the coil without it being tied to the crank shaft it was going back and forth on its own.
@@vripiatbuzoi9188 I don't think I was paying attention to that part at the first viewing!
It does seem to 'bounce' when he flicks the switch on and off, but centres itself when he holds the switch closed. It doesn't show what happens when he lets go of the switch after it has centred?
Nice and very interesting build. Not really an "engine" but a type of electric motor (a reciprocating motor).
He has the best small workshop I've ever seen. LEGO should hire him to power their plastic brick machines. Wonder how small he could make a motor...I doubt he could match this tho' - probably nobody could:
"In 1959, Dr. Richard Feynman, the famous Caltech physicist, issued a challenge that effectively ushered in the field of nanotechnology. He offered a $1,000 prize to anyone who could make an operating electric motor which was only 1/64th of an inch cubed. Much to Feynman’s surprise, a year later, a young Pasadena-based electrical engineer successfully fulfilled the challenge.
William McLellan (1924-2011), a Caltech graduate, spent just 2½ months laboring on the project, using tools such as toothpick and a watchmaker’s lathe. About the size of a speck of sand, it is mounted under a microscope so that you can see the individual parts. Although there is no effective use for the micromotor - McLellan suggested is could be “employed to run the merry-go-round for a flea circus”-the invention is considered a pioneer in the then-novel field of nanotechnology."
Source: pasadenahistory.org/collections/micromotor/