Little echo is 25cc. A 25cc stihl product probably want even cut your finger. Only good thing about a Stihl is the followers so it makes them easier to sell. Way better equipment out there if people would just look.
The echo 2511t has the best EVER HANDLE DESIGN. All saws should have that I cannot understand why echo doesn't make a 3711t?????they would own the market
Im not a big guy and i find the echo handles and grips are small fitting and no where near as comfortable as the stihl. I use stihl everyday and appreciate its smooth curves after a 5 hour job. It does not have the power for anything larger than say 5 inch. It can cut larger but it is slow. For larger stuff we use the stihl 201 now that is a hot rod.
I bought one of these little beauties in mid summer and love the size and weight. It is terribly overpriced for a "pro" saw and by "pro" I mean the build and ruggedness. This saw has the recoil cover secured only by 3 plastic grabbing screws, not two threaded into metal and two into plastic like the MS201T. Stihl's literature has several errors that ticked me off, the lack of oiler adjustment being one claim that they did not deliver on. They also claimed it was easy start and it is not at all. It does have a spring in series with your pull but it does not store energy then release like other Stihl saws. The spring really amounts to the same effect as the shock absorbing pull handle. So a few strikes against Stihl's erroneous claims for it. I have been running it without mods and so far have been happy for the light cutting I'm doing. The final icing on the cake was that when I attempted to buy several parts to have on hand (the spring I mentioned and the driving part for the starter), my "real" Stihl dealer said one was not listed and the other was obsolete. Pardon my French but WTF. I bought several of each part from another continent. They arrived quickly and only cost $12 for shipping. THIS is pretty poor on Stihl's part. I think it may get worse if they remain bone headed.
Take echo anyday ...my go to lightweight tool..I'm not in a race it cuts great .I do run stihl polesaw barchain setup on them.i get 2511t for 400 with quarter pitch sprocket and sthil bar and chain 14 it's still better deal .about 500..they want 650.00 for those stihl saws .never ran one but have 4 or 5 years on the echo..never had a signal issue or need to take it to shop.i did drill out the muffler and remove limiters then tuned it with tuner .tac...saw came alive after that got in November as birthday gift that saw and serious hard work built my business. Clear lake side properties and serious work with that little saw.if I can avoid lifting bigger saw I'm going to the echo few seconds don't mean anything. Not in a hurry .be more work therr after .older I get less hurry I'm in ..nice video..
Your story is consistent with everyone I know that has bought a 2511. Hard to beat that little saw in regards to reliability. Definitely needs a muffler mod and tune from the factory tho.
The rear handle 2511 is probably the goofiest looking saw in the market. Add some performance work to it and everyone stops laughing. Killer little saw.
It sounds like the CS2511, on average, is revving at a higher RPM. I just had to check the manuals and we're looking at 10,000 RPM for the Stihl and 12,200 to 13,400 for the Echo. For the same chain type and whatever downward force you apply, the Echo is going to make more chips based solely on this ... yes?
Many echo models are bad about taking a while to heat up. I chased my tail until I discovered running it hard for several bucks first THEN tweak the tune.
@@mattfleming86 I've experienced this several times with the Echo weedwackers. Gotta go kick em in the nuts for a while before tuning the carb otherwise it's a waste of time.
CC’s for CC’s Echo will kill a Stihl in any saw not just the 151’s. Same goes for trimmers. Stihl fan boys always want to put a 10 plus bigger cc saw or trimmer against echo’s. The only thing good about a Stihl is they have a bigger following and easier to sell. But they are way better ODPE out there than Stihl.
BIG PROBLEM I bought one with the 12 inch bar and 1/4 chain PM3. I used it as a pruning saw for olive trees. I managed to hurt myself but I am well now. One contributing factor was that the chain GRIPS the bar as it gets used ie warm, January weather in the south Meditteranean zone. Normally the chain gets looser during use, so the chain must not be loose to begin with. On this saw and bar the opposite happens. The bar must be expanding more than the chain as they get used and warm, resulting in the chain becoming tight on the bar. This SLOWS the chain down and thus the cutting is reduced ie the risk of a kick back is increased. Thus tensionign the chain correctly is a real problem I found. I wonder if other users may have noticed this phenomenon? Am I alone in this?
The 2511 is incredibly reliable for a lightweight option. The 201tc is the best full size option on the market, just don't drop it. I've replaced about 30 top handles this year alone.
@@richardflagg3084 have barley used mine .have injured arm .hurts the balance it..one hand .the t540i we use for bigger cuts did 120ft redoak with crazy lean otherday and trimmed customers whoteoaks just massive ..I sold my t540i to my partner so he likes it in the bucket .but going to get another one ..thanks Richard
Stihl saws tophandle anyways are boxy shaped hard on arm 🙋 and they don't gave balance and theside handle like baby echo..going buy ported one next shoot realy should get 3
The 151 is worth every penny of the 650 . Make that back in a day or less. The stihl fit and finish is way better than the echo the echo feels like cheap junk. Nice work on both saws .
Having owned and climbed with both of these saws couldn’t disagree more the 2511 had almost 1k$ into it by the time it was muffler modded timing advanced and 1/4 pitch setup extremely fussy to tune seam in plastic handle pinches your hand the clutch cover jams with chips in no time no thumb support near switch. 151t 650$ out the door muffler mod and lean it out haven’t had a single issue or complaint. Sold the echo as quick as I could otherwise it was due to get tossed out of a fkn tree
Nice job Rich. That 2511 was noticeably faster and stronger. They are nice little units.
That Echo does the Rock & roll!🤩🤩
The 2511 sounds way more rowdy - nice work 👍👍
The carb on the 150/151 really like a lil Venturi work. It’s extremely choked down because of the divider.
Great job on both👍🏻 tho I'd gladly take either one for the right price, if I were buying new and both were the same $$$, I'd still get the 2511!
Little echo is 25cc. A 25cc stihl product probably want even cut your finger. Only good thing about a Stihl is the followers so it makes them easier to sell. Way better equipment out there if people would just look.
The echo 2511t has the best EVER HANDLE DESIGN. All saws should have that I cannot understand why echo doesn't make a 3711t?????they would own the market
It would be nice to see a full grown "X" version.
Im not a big guy and i find the echo handles and grips are small fitting and no where near as comfortable as the stihl. I use stihl everyday and appreciate its smooth curves after a 5 hour job. It does not have the power for anything larger than say 5 inch. It can cut larger but it is slow. For larger stuff we use the stihl 201 now that is a hot rod.
I bought one of these little beauties in mid summer and love the size and weight. It is terribly overpriced for a "pro" saw and by "pro" I mean the build and ruggedness. This saw has the recoil cover secured only by 3 plastic grabbing screws, not two threaded into metal and two into plastic like the MS201T. Stihl's literature has several errors that ticked me off, the lack of oiler adjustment being one claim that they did not deliver on. They also claimed it was easy start and it is not at all. It does have a spring in series with your pull but it does not store energy then release like other Stihl saws. The spring really amounts to the same effect as the shock absorbing pull handle. So a few strikes against Stihl's erroneous claims for it. I have been running it without mods and so far have been happy for the light cutting I'm doing.
The final icing on the cake was that when I attempted to buy several parts to have on hand (the spring I mentioned and the driving part for the starter), my "real" Stihl dealer said one was not listed and the other was obsolete. Pardon my French but WTF. I bought several of each part from another continent. They arrived quickly and only cost $12 for shipping. THIS is pretty poor on Stihl's part. I think it may get worse if they remain bone headed.
Did you get the version with the E In it? Also in the new Stihl website it says the newer version has an adjustable oiler?
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Take echo anyday ...my go to lightweight tool..I'm not in a race it cuts great .I do run stihl polesaw barchain setup on them.i get 2511t for 400 with quarter pitch sprocket and sthil bar and chain 14 it's still better deal .about 500..they want 650.00 for those stihl saws .never ran one but have 4 or 5 years on the echo..never had a signal issue or need to take it to shop.i did drill out the muffler and remove limiters then tuned it with tuner .tac...saw came alive after that got in November as birthday gift that saw and serious hard work built my business. Clear lake side properties and serious work with that little saw.if I can avoid lifting bigger saw I'm going to the echo few seconds don't mean anything. Not in a hurry .be more work therr after .older I get less hurry I'm in ..nice video..
Your story is consistent with everyone I know that has bought a 2511. Hard to beat that little saw in regards to reliability. Definitely needs a muffler mod and tune from the factory tho.
I think you can pick one of those 151's up for a lot less than that
Rich nice comparison ❤❤😂😂
Think the Echo is stronger but both work good!
2511 rear handle is probably the superior little thing in its segment too. And with a similar price point comparison.
The rear handle 2511 is probably the goofiest looking saw in the market. Add some performance work to it and everyone stops laughing. Killer little saw.
It sounds like the CS2511, on average, is revving at a higher RPM. I just had to check the manuals and we're looking at 10,000 RPM for the Stihl and 12,200 to 13,400 for the Echo. For the same chain type and whatever downward force you apply, the Echo is going to make more chips based solely on this ... yes?
The Echo is carrying more RPM"s in the cut for sure. I Like'em
I did find baby echo and the 355t are difficult to tune sometimes. But I think 355t has airleak ..
Many echo models are bad about taking a while to heat up.
I chased my tail until I discovered running it hard for several bucks first THEN tweak the tune.
@@mattfleming86 I've experienced this several times with the Echo weedwackers. Gotta go kick em in the nuts for a while before tuning the carb otherwise it's a waste of time.
How much to do my 2511t?
CC’s for CC’s Echo will kill a Stihl in any saw not just the 151’s. Same goes for trimmers. Stihl fan boys always want to put a 10 plus bigger cc saw or trimmer against echo’s. The only thing good about a Stihl is they have a bigger following and easier to sell. But they are way better ODPE out there than Stihl.
BIG PROBLEM I bought one with the 12 inch bar and 1/4 chain PM3. I used it as a pruning saw for olive trees. I managed to hurt myself but I am well now. One contributing factor was that the chain GRIPS the bar as it gets used ie warm, January weather in the south Meditteranean zone. Normally the chain gets looser during use, so the chain must not be loose to begin with. On this saw and bar the opposite happens. The bar must be expanding more than the chain as they get used and warm, resulting in the chain becoming tight on the bar. This SLOWS the chain down and thus the cutting is reduced ie the risk of a kick back is increased. Thus tensionign the chain correctly is a real problem I found. I wonder if other users may have noticed this phenomenon? Am I alone in this?
Έλα πατριώτη ,έλεγα να το πάρω το stihl για κλάδεμα ελιάς και ξεκλαρισμα.Μουωτο προτείνεις ή να πάρω το echo?
What sW saw you think is easy-to-use and maintain
The 2511 is incredibly reliable for a lightweight option. The 201tc is the best full size option on the market, just don't drop it. I've replaced about 30 top handles this year alone.
@@richardflagg3084 have barley used mine .have injured arm .hurts the balance it..one hand .the t540i we use for bigger cuts did 120ft redoak with crazy lean otherday and trimmed customers whoteoaks just massive ..I sold my t540i to my partner so he likes it in the bucket .but going to get another one ..thanks Richard
@@Sethhaun78Thank you!
Stihl saws tophandle anyways are boxy shaped hard on arm 🙋 and they don't gave balance and theside handle like baby echo..going buy ported one next shoot realy should get 3
How many cc is the stihl. They try selling them to me alot .
24cc for the stihl and 25cc for the echo.
@@richardflagg3084 price is insaine for the stihl
I heard your not supposed to timing advanced on the 151 I heard that from red beard saws
The 151 is worth every penny of the 650 . Make that back in a day or less. The stihl fit and finish is way better than the echo the echo feels like cheap junk. Nice work on both saws .
Having owned and climbed with both of these saws couldn’t disagree more the 2511 had almost 1k$ into it by the time it was muffler modded timing advanced and 1/4 pitch setup extremely fussy to tune seam in plastic handle pinches your hand the clutch cover jams with chips in no time no thumb support near switch. 151t 650$ out the door muffler mod and lean it out haven’t had a single issue or complaint. Sold the echo as quick as I could otherwise it was due to get tossed out of a fkn tree
Very true, some don't like the feel/ergonomics of the Echo. Use what fits you. Thanks for the comment.
Way over priced can get 201t with discount at 850. That's insaine for little stihl saw I told the dealers same thing 😂 LOL 😂
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echo all day 🦾. dumped all my shit, I mean stihl years ago for echo and husky and never looked back.