George RR Martin on the lack of Black Characters in Game of Thrones
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As a Chinese man, I am satisfied by the wide array of disappointed fathers in the series. Tywin is so relatable
As a german with the same "problem" i liked that Tywin did not get away with it!
Y u no docta yet 😑
Emotional damage!
EMOTIONAL DAMAGE
Randyll Tarly too
I'm Greek and I'm offended that Lannisters always pay their debts
Young Kag Official good one ;)
@@mignonthon 😁💸
I'm german and i am offended now
will report that
Lmao
They don't. It's just propoganda.
As an American I’m offended by the lack of fast food restaurants in Westeros
There is McJoffrey's and Iron King. Don't forget Danereys (Wendys)
There are very good fried chicken.
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@@Klongu_Da_BonguYou forgot Bobby B’s Burgers, and it’s sister chain Burger King.
@@Klongu_Da_Bongu "Can I get uhhhh McPoison with no onions and extra pickles" - Joffrey
@@Klongu_Da_Bongu My brain just went "What about Wendell Pierce?", and then I remembered that that's an actor with a lordly sounding name and not actually a Westerosi lord. Perhaps I've consumed enough media for today 🥲
As a Canadian I'm very disappointed that Walder Frey didn't apologize for the red wedding
sorry
as a fellow canadian however i did find it very cathartic when the north declared war on their southern neighbour.
😂
I am indian and I am offended that no group of people broke into sudden coordinated dance number ever in GoT.
Lol
I'm Indian and I'm offended that the marriages weren't held for a few days and drained kingdoms of their treasuries. But the Red wedding had a sufficient amount of Red, 10/10 representation.
😂🤣😂🤣
😂😂
Nishant Biswas but pleased by all the shit in the streets?
As a canadian i am offended that the characters in GOT are not nicer to eachother
dirtybanana3 😂
This was the first genuinely funny post I saw.
😂😂
Funny, where I live, Canadians are not nice. But it’s a big country, who knows
@@sen73nced I'm Canadian too, but to be honest, I'm only nice to Larry or Sally... Maybe you know them???
As a German, Dany's season 8 character arc really spoke to me. 10/10 representation
As a fellow german leftist, i can only agree that people in here do be like that sometimes. 10/10 realism.
☠️☠️☠️☠️
I am also german, also leftwing and yes i liked the end very much. Not one more stupid disney happy end fantasy :)
Heil.
lol!
As a Brazilian, I'm satisfied with the amount of violence in the series. Warms my heart to see a reference to our culture 🇧🇷
Yep
I thought representation of, Brazilian steak on a spit.
Brazil mentioned 🌎
Hahahahaha
As a Mexican same. MÉXICO NUMERO UNO DEL MUNDO EN HOMICIDIOS!!!!
As an Antarctican, I'm very happy they added more and more ice and snow in the latest seasons. It's nice to see my culture being represented.
😂🤣 this is my favorite one.
This is an amazing comment
As an arctic, I am offended the you have taken snow as your culture. 😉❄️
@@Molmen07 as a Belgian I am happy that they included rain in this series. Finally We are beung represented.
TJBullz that’s northern snow, which is genetically superior to your southern snow
As an Irishman, I’m pleased with the amount of drinking in the series.
You're not offended by the deliberate erasing of gingers in GOT when compared to ASOIAF?
Ye ye 🍻
“Irish widsom preserved in bible & pyramids” ~ Conor MacDari
And as a Jew, I am pleased with the boring dialogue reguarding sales and finance in GOT
HAHAHAH
As a black man, I love this. Create the art from your experience and garner support. Don't change the unique visions of others.
To much work ill just whine till people change their works to fit my ego.
@@thezerowulf2046 Bitch, have you heard the interviewer's questions? He didn't demand change from Martin, he asked "why shit so the same".
Stop whining about people who want to see more stuff.
@@thezerowulf2046 And they did :D Amazon, Netflix : The Witcher, The Wheel of Time, the rings of power.
Even the Sandman
@@yassinemiri3555 and that sucks
I love how he basically said: stop being lazy and write your own fantasy novels.
Yes! Why didn't anyone think of that before! He said: " *I* am not qualified to write about these people. It is not *My* place to talk about them. In other interviews, he says Majority of good stuff is always buried because *people like whaf the majority of surface level stuff is, superficial appearances and mistreated on that basis*
That is basically saying the undesirable societal groups are lazy!
that's not what he's saying. He's saying more of them need to be published, and we as the public need to read them. But if you go to the fantasy section in waterstones i bet 90% of authors are white men. Until publishing houses introduce more equality in the genre then it will stay the same.
@@HippoHannah This is a man who uses "niggardly" in his works earnestly. He has little concern about poc's getting published or their feelings on his works. That's why he is directing poc to create their own works and own characters rather than asking a white man to shoehorn them in. White men created and cultivated modern fantasy and are also the largest demographic of readers. Of course they are going to dominate the fantasy landscape. Fantasy publishing houses know this. But they also know those white readers would read Game Of Thrones if it was created by an asian woman. The cream will always rise to the top.
@@HippoHannah it's what sells duh,
you could always write django or blade,
but people can't do it. it's just that simple.
@@HippoHannah White men? Have you been to a book shop lately, it's all trash fiction by catladies.
As a Middle Eastern I am offended by the lack of international conflicts over crude oil in Game of Thrones
charles s. Considering it’s an older style of show it captures the Middle Eastern conflicts perfectly with the slave trade lol. Fuck your obvious joke btw I’m gonna ruin it 😀
In that case, you should check out Dune if you haven't already.
John Hawthorne fuck you.
Middle-East is pretty well covered as Dorne seems to be influenced by a mixture of Jews, Arabs and Persians and the influence they had on Europe, plus the free cities of Essos are clearly based on Byzantium and the boundaries between East and West.
@@ukrainiansareproto-mesopat9235 international relations expert Ivan analysing one of the most complex regions in a CZcams section, that's that sorted then
I'm Swedish and I'm really offended by the lack of ready to assemble furniture in Game of thrones.
SKOLL!!😂♥️🍻
so glad they fixed this with Bran’s new wheelchair
🤣
Why is the throne forged by dragons!? What kind of racism is this!? It should be from IKEA
@@alex-sm2iw hm guess your right. Maybe they changed it in last second after my comment.
As a Jamaican I'm very happy with the level of representation of magical and medicinal herbs in the series. Thanks, George!
As a British person I’m offended by the lack of books about Harry and Megan on the maester’s shelves
As a white girl I am relatively content with the amount of Starbucks coffee cups shown in GoT.
i legitimately laughed hard at this
Rare to see a girl that's funny
I don't know, that one starbucks cup is still outnumbered by the bigoted horn cups. Westeros needs to get with the times and be more inclusive with its anachronisms.
They put one token cup and you call it progressive, please
@@ddfstar7588
Of course its rare when you a fat lonely loser that never leaves his parents house
As an Alabaman, I’m completely satisfied with the level of incest in this show. Representation is important
Sneha Prakash ALABAMA 100
Alabama, Pakistan?
Bjorn does my name look Pakistani to u loooool
Lmao. This is gold
Roll Tide, Brother!
As a dog owner, I’m pleased with the Hound.
As a chicken eater I'm quite pleased with the Hound
I love Martin. He's basically telling everyone complaining about representetion not to play the victim, but to write their own stories, to elevate their own cultural heritage and to not demand that to be done from other people, who would probably not even do a good work at it.
Yeah don't tell people to do what you want.
No, he’s not.
No he's not, he's telling them to go out and buy literature from POC authors and with POC characters.
Telling people to write their own books if they have a problem with yours is a .stupid argument and grrm isn't .stupid.
It's a fantasy with dragons and magic, none of this shit is real, so it's not based off anyone's cultural heritage and there were more brown people In those times than Europeans especially after GOD kept trying to kill them off with the plagues. So its not beyond reason that they ran across and possibly mated with people that weren't white.
LOL that isn't what he is saying at all you dumb fuck. You are hearing what you want to hear
I'm Finnish and I'm offended by the lack of representation of finishing the book series! FINNish it!
I see what you did there, internet props
I'm Russian and I am quite happy with the pacing of season 8.
@@boggers и почему же, в чем тут то прикол
@@erenliebert4576 heh, I had to translate your comment. It's a play on words. In Australia we drop the 'G' so rushing and Russian sound exactly the same. Season 8 was very rushed.
@@boggers aaa, understood mate, it definitely was rushed
I'm Korean and I'm offended by the lack of kpop in GoT
Theres no koreans in his fictional world. He created that world.
😂😂😂😂
@@JonDoe-fo3kl isn't that the whole problem?
@@mrworldextrawide2815 well to be fair i think some of the white walkers look korean.Especially the knight king
African Americans are part of America, and don’t get me wrong, there are a lot of black fantasy books, they just don’t get the same attention, but is of course on purpose that he wrote a fantasy about GB, and the other races will fight for Daenerys only to give her the 7 Kingdoms. No one seems to see this.
As a white man, I'm not offended by the lack of white actors in Ghanian movies.
Jokes aside, this was a really good answer. He must be tired of the politically corrects bothering him with their quotas. You write about what you know, you feed it with your own experience.
Yeah you could see how careful he had to be because if he says anything remotely close to being "oFfEnSiVe" well we all know how cancel culture works and how the media feeds on spreading non sense.
Good for Martin dealing with class with bullshit.
I mean there's definitely the opposite side of that coin which is fucko reactionaries who get pissy when anyone asks about representation, and literally believe that "western culture" aka white european hegemony is superior to the rest of the world and history. I think George is actually pretty subversive to any kind of one dimensional thought, either from shallow observations of his work or of shithead alt right white supremacist bullshit. He seems pretty progressive to me, and I think he's encouraging people of color to write their stories and for people to buy into them. in other words he seems careful not because he's trying to avoid offense but because he's careful with his thoughts in general. He simply is thoughtful.
Good that someone can dare to do it... World need more people like him.
No one “bothered him” with any “quotas” he was asked why fantasy is so white, and he explained why, and how that’s changing. You’re inserting your own politics into it.
@@donovan4222Oh yes it was clearly bothersome. He and the crowd were visibly uncomfortable answering that question. And when you’re put on the spot like that in front of thousands, it’s just not appropriate.
As a black man, I'm offended that there aren't any Black Walkers.
Coffee Knight 😂😂😂 stop
Oof
Underrated comment right here.
Cause bad guys are always white people, thats why white walkers
@@Alfre1899 Then make the black walkers good guys xD
I'm brazilian and the lack of flip-flops in this show offends me.
good one lol
Socorro, esse nome Thammy Impala e essa foto são tudooo! Eu preciso dissoo
Thammy Impala looooool the only one that made me laugh
@@heloisa944 KKKKK Acho que você foi a primeira a entender o trocadilho. Minha obra finalmente foi notada!
@@Gabrielg2012 mano, manda isso pro melted vídeos no insta q vc vai brilhar. Voa jovem
I respect that honesty.
"Because the majority of it is written by white men."
It's hard not to misrepresent a culture you don't know much about, or weren't raised in.
That's only part of his answer of my god.
The other part was people express what they want with their wallets.
When people want diversity and minority and to be educated about how to not be a fanatical racist, or sexist, they will start buying more of these kinds of shows/books.
But people don't want that. There are plenty of writers that write about diversity and stuff, but no one buys their stuff because no one cares.
Exactly, because this is what would happen. Author tries to diversify and throw other cultures in the mix and then get berated for misrepresentation.
This kinda implies that White people only come from one culture with one tradition and one mythology *and* that White people who grew up in other Black/Asian/Arab/etc. majority countries wouldn't be able to write stories inspired by their home country's culture. It may be honest, but he's incorrect on so many levels here. One of them being that his own books are extremely diverse (in every sense of the word) from book 1. Plus, it's a fantasy book. It's all made up. There is no misrepresenting cultures in fantasy because it's not aiming to depict reality but exactly the opposite: something that does not exist.
@@chrissnyder4439 Then readers are stupid. In fantasy settings culture of a black dude is gonna be very different then from black dude irl. I think someone should make this point and it would encourage writers to write their characters in any color without fear of insulting someone.
@@WaaDoku”it’s a fantasy book, it’s all made up”
Yeah and the question is why the world being made up is almost entirely white people. George explained why, and how that’s changing and why it’s a good thing.
As an Indian, I'm satisfied with the absolute disregard for women's rights. The Night's Watch is so relatable. Bobs and VEGANEEEE.
I'm J.K Rowling, and I'm offended that Robert Baratheon and Ned Stark did not have an *intense sexual relationship*
Winged Scapula hahahahahahah comedy gold
Lmao
Haha fuck her
Winged Scapula 😂😂😂
Best comment I've seen all day. Going through a very rough time and this made me literally laugh out loud.
As a
paraplegic white man, I'm offended with the whole "white walkers" thing...
This one got me LOL
At least we have Bran the Broken.
😅😅😅🤣🤣😅 this one knocks it off the park
White rollers
Mbrace and Prince doran
His answer is very honest. Not apologetic for himself but explaining where he came from and supporting the widening of the genre from other artists
"You based your series on white people, why are there so many white people?"
"Because there were white people from what I based on it, people of a different colour were on another continent"
Saved you 4 minutes.
Same with Tolkien
@@bencarlson4300 Literally. I can't see a darker coloured person as an Easterling in LOTR. Dark eyes, hair and skin? You come from the east. It isn't racist.
But these days I'm called racist if I say Easterling come from the East. Even if they do.
It's like being called European Olive. Yes. I am, aaaand? I get there are Asian and African Americans, but bro, c'mon. You know your parents are from Korea or Egypt or half-cast (like me)
As much as I am born in New Zealand, this Ukrainian and Russian War is disgusting. I am all for my Ukrainian people, I still know where I can belong. Much love to my people and fight the next Stalin! Prost! Le Heim! and Glory to Ukraine!
Wow, 4 minutes! I can do so much with 4 minutes!
@@fayeharrison1741 Are you really trying to equate Putin with Stalin? 😆
Pretty sure it's actually Ukrainian leadership with much more in common with Stalin.
@@yeetnama9094 you check out history on Putin's past. I mean it's impressive in a sick way, I thoroughly enjoyed watching the fucked up shit the USSR did. Did you know Putin was born a year before Stalin died? He would have grown up hearing about that tyrant was "glorious". There also 1 story about him convincing people, but I'll let you find that on your own if you don't already know
As a Black Man, I am disappointed Tupac wasnt revived as a White Walker.
@Lenny Lee let him identify whatever he wants and youtube is a safe space now ... it was a joke btw and so was this
As a white man, I am offended that white walkers are called white walkers.
Or even q black Walker
@Lenny Lee it's funny because wang means (you know the rest)
Tupac is the night king
I'm American and I'm offended by the lack of guns in GoT
HELL YEAH BROTHER KKonaW
They have napalm... green napalm
@@pandarue but they got freedom dragons raining freedom on kings landing
I'm European and I'm offended by the lack of terrorist attacks and acid attacks in the book
@@captain_torket3254 Napalm baby
I love how he is not apologetic about it. In the end he says how it is, if black authors or characters succeed than you will have more of it, simple as that, if it makes money it will get published/produced.
That’s why it’s ironic when “anti woke” white peoples get furious whenever there’s a fantasy series with black peoples in it
Im black and portraying characters with diverse heritage, black, asian, e.t.c ruins the immersion sometimes, either they keep the characters uniform or dont make it obvious
Its just how ive felt since i was a kid
Europe is wholly BLACK.
just like the history of America. late arrivals need to seek solice in CENTRAL ASIA history ( just like the nazis had to)
because all history is BLACK
he sat there and wrote all those Yoruban mother of dragons white.
white hair is accurate but Eurasia is flank by 2 groups of DRAGONS.
Wales 🐲 👸🏾 + China 🐲 👸🏾 :
he knows they were all black families: that rule Eurasia. because they got the CREST and the story correct. its impossible to ignore those black faces on it.
This. I don't care about the race, but I DO care about immersion and continuity. It doesn't make sense for a medieval city to have a wildly diverse population except in some special cases.
“Diversity ruins the immersion”
Why does a fantasy series need to be an ethnostate for you to be immersed in it?
@@RessuuIt doesn’t make sense for a medieval city to have flying lizards that breathe fire, it doesn’t make sense for a medieval knight to go to battle in helmets with dragon wing decorations on them, it doesn’t make sense for corn to exist in a medieval world where corn wasn’t discovered yet. It’s fantasy, you can make up whatever world you want, there is absolutely 0 reason “continuity” needs to consist of only white people, or only one race.
@@donovan4222 Diversity in itself does not, but it is rarely plausible in most cases and that's the problem. Eg: Having black and white hobbits in the same village. Why are they so different? Clearly black and white hobbits originally must have been born very far apart and then the two people came together, but how and why? Oh that's right, woke agenda, that's the only explanation and since woke doesn't exist in middle earth it reminds me of the real world and thus breaks my immersion.
And I'm offended by all of your comments that dont allow me to come up with anything I'm uniquely offended by
as someone who was just about to write a comment similar to yours, I'm offended because you beat me to it.
I feel like this comment section is feminist and as a straight white male I'm offended
Ugh, here's take my like you bastard...
SAME
🔥🔥🔥
I'm hispanic and I'm grossly offended that there are no street tacos on every corner in Westeros
*how can we change that?*
Hispanic =/= tacos
Cubans and Colombians don't eat tacos....
@@OscarMarohn23 fuck you I love tacos
MALI lmao 😂 for real who cares if their aren’t any black Hispanics Asian characters, game of thrones is the shit fuck outta here is your race card
@@ThaYoungChad not my point but whatever
Good answer
As someone from the Southern Hemisphere, I'm offended by the overuse of the word "North" in GoT
Or he could've said, "If you want more blacks in fantasy, write it. No one is stopping you."
But thats what i heard him saying though.
Now i am offended that your opinion isn't same as me.
If that’s the message you took something is wrong with your brain
@@donovan4222 It's more or less what he said. He is an old white guy, he's writing stories based on the things he knows (medieval European history and folk tales, Tolkien, etc). He's under no obligation to cater his stories to people who might be offended that their particular ethnic group isn't included. If black people want more fantasy stories to focus on black protagonists, there's nothing stopping them from writing their own stuff.
As a Nigerian, I’m offended by the lack of corruption in game of thrones..........wait.
I'm Nigerian and I'm totally vexed that they didn't eat eba and drink palmwine🌴 🍷 in GOT. How dare they?
loled
As a Brazilian i feel the same way
I loled...
Cercei should be telling Joffery the kneel down, raise his hands and close his eyes lol
I am a flat earther and I am offended by Arya Stark travelling to west of Westeros knowing that will lead to her fall off the planet earth
"It's not flat Earth. It's _fat_ Earth. Flat at the top and delightfully plumb at the bottom."
- Creationist Cat
@@germanvisitor2 plump* but I understand the mistake based on the German pronunciation of "b" :)
@@seeker296
Yeah, it's a five letter word I have to look up every single time.
Flat earth stuff is the worst.
Along with young earth creationism.
The USUAL RETARDED ZOMBIES that even doesn't know how to READ because they don't HAVE BRAIN'S to understand what is the FLAT EARTH RESEARCH / SCIENTIFIC METHOD / REASONING, experience,repeating the results to obtain a FACTUAL repeatable analysis results, sapere aude!
There ISN'T Hedwigs on torus field plane of inertia LOLOL believing is the enemy's of knowing aka knowledge.
White men writing about white men - "Why don't you write about people of color?!"
White men writing about people of color - "You can't never understand our experience!"
I'm Mexican and I'm very satisfied by the wildlings wall crossing abilities. Feel very represented.
😂😂😂😂
As a Texan, I'm offended by the lack of firearms in GoT.
They showed Balistas. They count?
How would you define dragons then? That's a heck of a firearm wouldn't you say? 😅😅
@@ravik007ggn No. Rate of fire is too slow.
@@showcase-me Those are some flying armadillos.
Oh yeah let's all get those long thick BLACK rifles I bet we can't get some real pleasure and live action
As an Italian I feel quite well represented by the number and the variety of corrupted governments in both books and show.
I'm Mexican and I feel represented by this comment
Mexicans of europe is Italy
@@stard00 second that.. X2
Lack of pizza
As an Israeli I share this sentiment
I am Dutch and completely aggrevated by the amount of mountains in GoT
I'm Romanian, and i'm offended by the lack of vampires in GoT.
there are a few gypsies though
@@caboose9364 yeah...but are they vampire gypsies?
@@carinatarta5962 I am also romanian and I have never been offended by something so true
Pseudo Sozi Lord Leech is not a Leech Lord unfortunately
Bolt-On
As an Englishman I’m offended by the lack of top hats and licences.
Oi. U got a loisence for that offense?
English gentleman*
I'm English and I am offended by the lack of real ale breweries in Westeros, that's clearly poncy craft beer they're drinking.
If u are ofendes make a referendum and exit westeros
one of the weaker "i'm offended" comment.
"Why is the fantasy genera so racially monoclomatic?" Maybe because all the popular fantasy stories are based off European culture/fantasy tales. If you want diversity in fantasy, pressure studios to adapt fantasy stories from other cultures rather than alter the content of already established fantasy.
@@dominiccarrano9513 Who said anything about “altering content”? The skin tone of a character in a fantasy world is no more important than hair or eye color. Half of the things in game of thrones didn’t exist in medieval Europe, and just because it’s based off of something that may of came from Europe, doesn’t mean everyone in the story has to be white…
" mono cultural " Germanic, Latin, hispanic, greco, slavic, scandinavian, breton, irish, wealas and more.
I'm blue eyed, and i'm offended how our people are represented in asoiaf
stay back he’s got blue eyes!
My eyes were always blue!
As a French, I'm offended by the lack of soldiers who don't surrender immediately.
Lmfao
Excellent.
Don't forget about Renly's men. They surrendered to Stannis pretty quickly. Lol There, French equivalent. Lol jk
I don't believe you. Frenchmen aren't that self-loathing.
SCharlesDennicon You’re right, I’m Corsican :-)
“Why is European fantasy so monocultural” ??????
It’s based on European mythology and themes
I'm Italian and I'm offended by the lack of hand-gesturing, loud-mouthed, pizza-eating people with moustaches!
Sono io, Mario! Hai insultato la mia nazione e mo ti prendo a sberle.
boopity boppity bippity?
Stavo cercando proprio questo commento ahah
What about Syrio Forell?
Westeros
The North: Scotland
The Riverlands: North France
The Vale: Switzerland/The Alps
The Reach: South France
The Westerlands: England/Wessex
The Stormlands: Christian (North) Spain
Dorne: Moorish (South) Spain
The Iron Islands: Scandinavia
King's Landing: London
Wildlings: Celts
Essos
Valyria: Rome
Qarth: Constantinople
Volantis: Carthage
Myr, Lys, Tyrosh, Pentos, Braavos: Italian city states, Braavos being Venice
Norvos, Qohor, Lorath: Perhaps Eastern Europe or German city-states
Dothraki - Mongols/Huns/Timurids/Other people from the Steppes
Lhazar - Israelites
Yiti - China
Mereen - Egypt
Summer Isles - South Africa
Where is the monoculture?
... gods below ...
I'm still a little green at this CZcams thing; how does like 'Like' a post more than once?
North is Scandinavia and iron islands is Scotland and Riverlands Netherlands also.
Riverlands north France? Germany and Netherlands fits much better
Summer isles feels more Caribbean and great and lesser Moraq perhaps Madagascar. Sothoryos is Africa as a whole kinda. Jogos Nhai is more Mongol and dothraki more Turkish/hun.
Lys, Tyrosh, Pentos and Myr can't be compared to the Italian city states
WESTEROS
North ---> Scotland (buildings) + Scandinavia/Russia (climate)
Riverlands ---> Germany, Poland, Flanders
Vale --> Switzerland, Austria
Reach ---> France, Northern Italy
Dorne ---> Moorish Spain
Stormlands --> Northern Spain, Britanny, Normandy
Crownlands --> Southern France, Central Italy
Westerlands ---> England and Wales
Iron Islands ---> Scandinavia + Ireland (climate)
King's Landing --> Constantinople (layout, climate) + London
Oldtown --> Alexandria + Genoa
Eyrie --> Neuschwanstein + Three Castles of Bellinzona
"Fookin'" Tarth ---> Sardinia
Dragonstone ---> Stromboli, Vulcano (but far larger)
ESSOS
Braavos ---> Venice (layout), Amsterdam, Flanders' trading towns (climate)
Tyrosh --> Tyre and Phoenician cities
Lys --> Cyprus, Rhodes
Myr --> Ephesus, Miletus, Halicarnassus (Hellenistic cities)
Pentos --> Thessaloniki + Palermo
Lorath ---> Hanseatic city (Riga) + Far Oer/Lofoten (trade)
Volantis ---> India
Norvos --> Russian medieval cities
Qohor ---> Georgia, Caucasus
Sarnor ---> Kingdom of Hungary, Wallachia, Moldavia
Qarth --> Baghdad-on-Sea
Meereen ---> Ancient Egyptian cities+Cairo
Yunkai ---> Moroccan cities (Fez, Marrakech)
Astapor ---> Tunis
Vaes Dothrak --> Karakorum
Valyria ---> Atlantis + Roman Empire
Ghis --> Assyrian + Carthaginian Empire
Yi-Ti ---> Chinese Empire
Lhazar --> Nomadic Central Asia tribes
Summers Isles --> Madagascar, Zanzibar
Ibben ---> Iceland, Siberia
Sothoryos ---> Central Africa
If there are no people of colour in your story you get accused of discrimination, if there are people of colour in your story you get accused of being unqualified to write those characters because you don't share their ethnicity
And if you add only a few (even if it makes no sense) you get accused of tokenism, and if you do too many (especially if it makes no sense) you are just pandering. I think when it comes to stories people need to just stfu.
The comment you made about "being unqualified" would really annoy me if I saw that shit in relation to fantasy especially lol. I would laugh so hard, and brutally harass tbh, at someone who said GRRM wasn't qualified to write the Dornish characters because he doesn't share an ethnicity... Oh? And what ancestor of yours was from Dorne?
Exactly. You literally can't win with these ppl
No one is accusing him of anything, the guy just asked a question, it's ok
@@danfr444 He didn't accuse, but he did imply.
@@braemtes23 No he didn't, you implied for him, which is quite frankly rude.
People tend to forget that most medieval fantasy is based on historical European, Celtic, Norse mythologies. It's not a slight against people of colour. It's a sign that people of colour need to write some fantasy based on their own cultural history. Then we will have some wonderful "medieval" fantasy based on different areas of the world.
Well he made the velaryons in house of dragons black people with white hair who are related to the Targaryens. They are also the richest country to that's no longer a problem
@@keithlowe3557George didn't make the Velaryons black, HBO did. In the books, the Velaryons look almost identical to the Targaryens and that is the whole reason the Targaryens will mate with Velaryons when there isn't any Targaryen available. Making the Velaryons black in the show was so retarded.
@@AK99581 in the books, Barristan selmy didn’t die. The targaryens were supposed to have purple eyes. Robs child wasn’t supposed to die. Catherine stark should be ladystoneheart. Arya should not be able to kill the powerful night king so effortlessly. There were plenty of incorrect changes. Oberyn Martell was played by an Hispanic male but had a half Asian daughter but people get annoyed the minute they see a black person, all of a sudden source material matters
@@keithlowe3557 Well I've complained about numerous book-to-show changes. But you claimed that George made the Velaryons black, he did not...HBO did that.
Anyway they could have made literally anyone else in the show black and it would have been fine, but they picked the one family that is supposed to look like Targaryens and made them not look like Targaryens at all. I had zero problem with Sallador Saan or Xaro Xhoan Daxos being changed to black because it's relatively simple to just change their ethnicity from Lysene or Qartheen to Summer Islanders. But Targaryens and Velaryons are both of near pure Valyrian stock (and are said to be in the show as well), yet look like they are from entirely different continents. They just slapped ridiculous-looking blond wigs on a bunch of black actors and said "See they're all Valyrians!" and expect no one to notice 🤣
Anyway why is it always white characters changed to black? Why not Hispanic, Arabic, Indian or East Asian? Why is it always black? I know why...it's because it's literally only black people who make a stink when old white guys don't write enough black characters into their stories.
I find a lack of asians in Black Panther and want more sushi restaurants in Wakanda
Arghun Qon well technically they filmed in Korea, no?:)
@@burn_out only Koreans ? As a Southeast Asian, I am OFFENDED by that fact that we are always cast over
@@hauntologicalwittgensteini2542 As an asian, I'm offended that you're offended.
Arghun I found a lack of blacks in samurai epics idiot is black Panther set in Asia?
@@joshuaj.chinda9873 A pretty big section of black panther is actually set in Asia, yes
As Russian I'm offended that no one wears adidas tracksuits.
Nobody knows how to squat properly
And they don't play hardbass
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
That's not Russian culture you dumb sack of shit
@@fromrussiawithlove9665 That is the essence of Russian culture my brother.
Can't a writer just write a book with whatever coloured characters they wish? I mean it is fantasy after all.
Don't be ridiculous. People with useless degrees need things to be aggrieved about. Everything must be politicised.
@@n0vus silly me right
Thank you sadly people don’t understand that and also get offended over the stupidest things
yeah like a planet where everybody's skin color is blue or pink
No you see, ''this fantasy story set in another world'' has to reflect 21st century america because there are no ethic minorities capable of writing their own stories who at the same time don't complain.
How can you not love this guy? He answered that question so perfectly.
I love how he basically said to fix the problem that the people have to expand to other writers and make them better known. He basically told everyone if they want a specific culture to go read a book written by a person of that culture... Helps out his fellow writers and tells everyone its on them to change it
These diversity quota demands are annoying. He writes about what he knows which is, just like you said, his own culture. He couldn't write about my culture because he doesn't know about it. I'm from Brazil, btw. I don't feel left out. I take it for what it is: a fictional world. Not a 1 on 1 depiction of the real world.
Yeah, because the reason that movies don't get made about people of color is they do so badly at the Box Office. Look at Black Panther!
@@luckwhisker ummm I'm pretty sure there are plenty of movies of color, the real issue now is only the award shows. Also Black panther is a superhero movie and not indicative in any way of the success or lack there of of African American films.
There is an issue in that for much of my life at least, any minority based movies were largely either not advertised well or they were but largely centered around gang violence and culture. While those types of movies are fine to kick back and watch at home, I'm certainly not gonna buy a movie ticket to see it.
Also the idea that it's up to others to give you a seat at the table is wrong, you either make yourself a spot at the table or you make your own table that's what opportunity is about.
@@luckwhisker So you're demanding that more old white men make entertaining stories for you about *YOUR* people and culture.
Alrighty then 😆
@@luckwhisker good movie with black people? Simple... blade.
I'm Donald Trump and I'm very happy that there is a wall
was
@@rolebo1 Technically still is. Just a gap in it but its still there ;)
and it's HUGE
I wanted to like your comment but if I did, I would've been the 666th like and illuminati confirmed
@@allenbrx4016 👁️
I would love to watch more movies and tv shows that have a basis in African mythologies. I also appreciate the creativity and purity of the story that’s pulled from the cultures and countries that are used as reference and inspiration in GOT. I don’t see why people get so up in arms about cultural diversity and inclusion when some stories don’t really make sense to put a variety of cultures and races in for the sake of political correctness. That’s not how good stories are written. Political correctness and “wokeism” is a plague on authenticity, freedom of choice, and personal autonomy, which funnily enough is what the politically correct claim to be all for.
It's hard to create something innovative and creative inspired by other cultures when some people don't judge these works by their merits and demerits and make absurd and ridiculous criticisms (when they don't attack the actors and producers).
I'm offended by the fact that African folk tales don't feature more white characters.
as a Vegan i am offended by the lack of vegetable main characters in GOT
You already have Bran
NEEPS
Khal Drogo was a vegetable which Daenerys even barbequed :)
@@baggerjanus burn
@@baggerjanus they HAD Bran. We got him back
As A Russian I am offended that there are no walking bears in the streets of Winterfell:(
There is a dancing bear in Kings Landing...
@@bearhall4919 u took it too serious man
There was an undead bear other side of the Wall though :) And Mormonts - the whole House is built around bear symbol
Does a Zombie bear count?
Does "Little Bear" count?
All jokes aside. I read this really good fantasy novel that takes inspiration from West African mythology called Black Leopard Red Wolf. It was shocking and terrifying and I couldn't stop put it down
As a mexican I’m quite happy with the amount of division walls and bordering patrol abuse depicted in the show
As a dragon I am offended by the societal pressure regarding Wing size as perpetuated by this mans books
It’s not the size of the wings but how you use them. Overcompensate with your roar or fire bro!
Best
Small wing energy
We have a winner
😂
Its based on European mythology...
But even game of thrones does have ethnic characters; in the eastern storylines from the Dothraki Qarth and Slavers bay.
Dothraki are more culturally central asians people in the books and are played by morrocans and irishs guys in the serie
Qarth and the Slave bay are more a mix of north african, middle east and persian cultures
But, i'm remember we have a black king at the court of king Robert Baratheon in the books
@@moelester2797 There were Muslim Vikings in Andalusia if you really want to be inclusive lol
Harry Turner yes!
"Slavers Bay" :D
FUNNY_RUDY_INVESTMENTS For real. People have been trying to bring sjw politics into game of thrones a lot lately. The interviewer probably hasn’t read the books carefully enough. Westeros is predominantly white, and Essos is a continent with individuals of a predominantly darker skin tone. I can’t believe people have been trying to criticize Martin along these lines. He’s one of the most progressive writers around when you consider a lot of who the central characters are in Game of Thrones.
I like how he straight up addressed the question and gave a straight and easy to understand answer. Gotta respect that.
As a Haitian, I am pleased with the amount of zombies in the series.
It's a mystery to me why people are so confused and offended by the fact that popular western fiction based on western historical periods mostly features... westerners... in the fictional regions corresponding to the... west. It's like watching Mulan and wondering why half the main characters aren't white, or complaining that there aren't enough Asians in the Old Testament. Madness. Madness and stupidity. Martin is totally right. If you want non-white fantasy then encourage other awesome fantasy traditions, don't bitch about white fantasy being white.
I agree to 100 % with your statement. But since Israel is, as far as I know, an Asian country, I would suggest swapping Asian with e. g. Aborigines or Native Americans in your example. ;-)
@@wiikinger76 It's a middle Eastern country inhabited mainly by Jewish and Muslim people
They aren’t really offended. They’re just virtue signaling because they’re apart of a toxic ideology that must call everyone and everything racist.
Pretty sure all the people in the Bible are Asian, ya know central Asian, but ok.
I completely agree. This argument would NEVER be had for an author of a series based on 8th century southern africa on why there are no portuguese, greek or roman people.
As an Arab, I'm offended that there is no hijabi woman in GoT.
Olenna: Am I a joke to you!!!
Ahmad Mohammad this one is good😂😂
What about Sansas septa in season 1?
Arab =/= Muslim
That's not really hijab .. many old Christian women wear scarf on their head.
Golden, Black people always want black actors, When theres a chance to victimize something, it'll happen.
As a CZcams commenter I'm offended by the lack of stupid and hateful comments in this comment section
I am Serbian, and i'm offended by lack of vampires and rakija.
The funny thing is lots of regular black people probably dont give a shit about this. It's the media that tries to make it a issue.
@wagner1va huh?
wagner1va Blame the Jews a bit less and people will take you more seriously.
@wagner1va You can do better than that. The original Deus Ex game explains stuff logickally and without ever mentioning 'them'.
Here's a great example: czcams.com/video/mGy74YFUcM0/video.html
Donald Trump! The savior of The USA! I love your username
I don't care if its all blue people.
I'm British and I'm offended by the lack of tea in Game of Thrones.
As a Brit I’m happy to see every nation speak fluent English, even though it’s set in fictional world with multiple nation’s. correct representation is important.
@@damiendehorn6350 they speak French in French translations, Arabic in Arabic translations, Mandarin in Chinese translations. If you think about it, the Westerosi speak in whatever language the reader is reading the books in 😅
Writers have the right to be ethnocentric in their fantasy work.
No one said they didn’t
A very articulate response to a very ridiculous question.
As a human, I am thankful for the comment section
Gooood.
Indeed
As The Senate, are you offended by the lack of Westerosi voting in GoT?
@@procrastinator99 yes indeed, for I love democracy
@@thesenate433 And, of course, The Republic.
FFS. As an African this makes me cringe so badly. If you want African characters then read African literature, it's as simple as that. We can't even enjoy fiction without bringing race into it.
Katlego Techie Ok so then they shouldn't take any African fighting techniques for the show. Battle of the bastards included Hannibal Barcas fighting strategy and they reference him in the after show commentary... but they can't take the same creative license to write a character equal to him? Cognitive dissonance
And I doubt your African - Africans love referencing their tribe or country over just referencing the continent.
@@infinitedreaming222 so you're suggesting that they should just add a bunch of black characters just cause they took inspiration from Hannibal Barca's? Are you even African or are you some white knight who's trying to tell me what should offend me? Go jump. The source material for the show was written in the 90's by the way.
I'm a black South African. Nice try tho.
Infinite Dreams "but they can't take the same creative license to write a character equal to him?"
That's the dumbest thing I've ever read.
Why does it make you cringe? He does not suggest that he should include African characters... He just asked him about the reason there is lack of them in fantasy literature and Martin provided rock-solid argument there. What is cringy about it? Someone might be thinking the same and this is answer for them.
Eish. People love to tell you what to be offended by when you're African. They must voetsek, south Africans have our own problems.
0:35 because it isn't a disney series... You know. You go 2,000 years back in history, and you will see country's and land where there is monocultural and monoethnic people... Maybe, in the mediterranean where more mixes. You know... Read more, what a stupid question.
If you want black characters, then write your own damn books.
He doesn't need to. Plus this guy clearly isn't a fan of fantasy because I can list many stories where the protagonists are black.
@@admirekashiri6651 I don't think you understand my point. It's not George Martin's responsibility to create black characters. If people are so upset at the lack of black characters in literature to the point of harassing him about it in every interview, then they can create their own stories.
@@ricksomething I totally get your point. I'm saying the guy interviewing GRRM doesn't need to write anything either because, there are actually fantasy stories with black main characters and cultures at the helm! But this fool (the interviewer) isn't a fan of fantasy so he has no clue. Here are a few examples.
Charles R. Saunders
Imaro series
Book 1 Imaro
Book 2 Imaro: Quest for Cush
Book 3 Imaro: The Trail of Bohu
Book 4 Imaro: The Naama War
Nyumbani Tales
Dossouye duology
Book 1 Dossouye
Book 2 Dossouye: The Dancers of Mulukau
Abengoni: First Calling
N.K Jemisin
The Inheritance Trilogy
Book 1 The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms
Book 2 The Broken Kingdoms
Book 3 The Kingdom of Gods
The Dreamblood Duology
Book 1 The Killing Moon
Book 2 The Shadowed Sun
The Broken Earth
Book 1 The First Season
Book 2 The Obelisk Gate
Book 3 The Stone Sky
Marlon James
The Dark Star Trilogy
Book 1 Black Leopard Red Wolf
Book 2 Moon Witch, Spider King
Book 3 The Boy and the Dark Star (yet to be released)
Tomi Adeyemi
Legacy of Orisha
Book 1 Children of Blood and Bone
Book 2 Children of Virtue and Vengeance
Book 3 ???
Evan Winters
The Burning
Book 1 The Rage of Dragons
Book 2 The Fires of Vengeance
Book 3 The Lord of Demons (2023)
Book 4???
Nnedi Okorafor
Who Fears Death
The Book of the Phoenix
Binti Trilogy
Book 1 Binti
Book 2 Home
Book 3 The Night Masquerade
Ataka Witch
Zahrah the Windseeker
Rena Barron
The Last Witch Doctor trilogy
Book 1 Kingdom of Souls
Book 2 Reaper of Souls
Book 3 Master of Souls (2022)
Maya and the rising Dark
Antoine Bandele
Tales of Esowon series
The Kishi
Sky Pirate Chronicle
Book 1 By Sea & Sky
Book 2 Of Ruin & Silk (yet to be released)
book 3 For Code & Honor (yet to be released)
TJ Young & the Orishas
Book 1 The Gatekeeper's Staff
Book 2 ???
An Orisha tale
Book 1 Will of the Mischief Maker
Milton J. Davis
Changa's Safari series
Griots: A Sword and Soul Anthology
Fallen
Meji Duology
Eda Blessed: A Ki Khanga Adventure
Priestess of NKu: A Ki Khanga Adventure
Amber series
Book 1 Amber and the hidden city
Book 2 Amber and the enchanted sword
From Here to Timbuktu
The Makurian (yet to be resolved)
Jordan Ifueko
Raybearer series
Book 1 Raybearer
Book 2 Redemptor
Reni K Amayo
The Return Of The Earth Mother
Book 1 Daughters of Nri
Book 2 Descendants of the First
Tochi Onyebuchi
Beasts made of Night
Crown of Thunder
Suyi Davies Okungbowa
Godhunter
The Nameless Republic series
Book 1 Son of the Storm
Anthony Kwamu
Timbuktu Chronicles: Aida and the Chosen Soldier
Gregory Walker
Shades of Memnon series
Book 1 The African warrior of the Trojian war
Book 2 Ra Force Rising
Book 3 African Atlantis Unbound
E.O. Odiasa and K.N Pumpuni
The Last Warrior King
Book 1 A Cry to War
Book 2 A Dance For The Gods
Why doesn't African sculpture include more classical Greek statuary? 🤔
As a greek Im offended.
I stopped watching when I found out that there is no black Lannister, no gay Stark, no transgender Targaryen and no elephant that identifies as Apache helicopter. #letJKrewriteGoT
How much does Rowling still have of her earnings? How much is game of thrones worth? The only way she would be able to do that to GoT is finishing rewriting the harry potter books and virtue-signaling so hard that it would get her a few billion, but that's only IF she is lucky enough with it. Only then will that soulless cretin be able to afford the rights to GoT.
i wanted those elephants
Lol
You are a liar who seem to just not want to watch the show. Because there actually has always been a transgender elephant that identifies as an Apache helicopter in it.
#StopHatingOnNonBinaryElephants
i found out that there is no black caucasian person in this world..
the world is such a racist place smh
I'm Scottish and I'm offended by The Hound's comment regarding hating gingers.
But that's the thing about being a writer is you don't write to please a crowd you right to create your own stories and so it doesn't matter if every character is black or every character is white you were telling your own story and people's whatever opinions shouldn't sway you
As an Indian im highly offended by the lack of currry in game of thrones
Wait for Hotpie's next recipe.
nah their tastebud not evolved yet😂
Why are all the characters in anime asian? Can't figure it out...
This is blatantly untrue.
@Admire Kashiri you replied to the wrong person.
@Admire Kashiri vojtech says: all anime characters are Asian can't figure it out. Then a guy called DE posts "this is blatantly untrue" and you tag him saying "do these look Asian to you?". Shouldn't you have tagged vojtech
@@Agarwaen No it isnt. If there is a "forgeiner", they usually are depicted as blond. Especially popular with italians which is very untrue to reality but it is just sth to make it visually distinct that they are from outside of japan. Yes most are japanese. In AOT i believe most are supposed to be german and just the mc is japanese but generally japanese anime features japanese characters. Shocker. GOT also has numerous different ethnicities but the main continent where the story takes place is westeros and to no ones surprise it os very european and really no one should be offended by it.
@@IsomerSomaYou're trying to prove the claim that all characters in anime are asian by pointing at how they depict some that aren't.. you're not the cleverest person around are ya?
As a Turk, i am offended by the lack of oppressed minorities and human rights violations overall in the series.
As a Polishman, I’m honoured to be represented by the valiant character of The Onion Knight, I really relate to the guy
I am Iranian and I have an issue with the lack of Persian rugs in Game of Thrones. How could they really leave those overtly detailed decors without the delicacy of Persian art?
You should be mad theres almost 0 persians on tv.
Are you referring to rugs as vaginas?
Actually GoT and ASOIF are largely inspired by Iranic concepts, religion and mythology:
The name Arya (the Aryan nobility/ethnicity), the name Shireen (literally sweet in Farsi), the name Daario (after Darius/Daryavoush), the Azor Ahai (inspired by Ahura Mazda, Jamshid, etc), the entire Lord of Light religion (based off of Zoroastrianism - monotheistic dualism with fire as a common symbol) and the dragon mythology is quintessentially obtained from Persian concepts of dragons (laid eggs of Azhi Dahaka), etc.
@@JokerL1000 PrankInvasion bro!
I mean, Im pretty sure Melissandre is supposed to be the Got equivalent to persian, and her religion the equivalent to Zoroastrism.
I'm European and I'm offended by the lack of universal Healthcare
I noticed that. I also noticed the lack of welfare in Westeros. Triggered the fuck outta me.
Fuck
I'm vietnamese and I'm offended by the lack of talking trees
As a Slavic person I am offended we are always portrayed as drunkards, thugs and mafia members. And almost every Slav is Russian.
As a Serbian i am offended because no one in the books or the show ate sarma
Hey, in real life, I eat sarma, and I'm an old white American, so there'a hope for the world.
there is sarma in Serbia? what
@@osmanceylan yeah. we get a lot of cuisine from back when we were occupied by the ottoman empire
@@user-ts2ny8jg9d And here in Austria we're lucky to have lots of Serbian cuisine. Mmmm.
Im not Serbian but i am equally offended.