2017 vs 2019 vs 2020 iMac 5K - Performance Comparison!
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- Are you wondering how much Apple's 27-inch iMac has improved over the years in terms of performance? We test EVERYTHING from programming & music production to video editing!
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In this video, we compare the performance between the fully-loaded 2017 iMac with the 4-core i7 and the Radeon Pro 580 graphics for $2700, the top-of-the-line 2019 iMac with the 8-core i9 and the Vega 48 graphics for $3,250, and the new top-spec 2020 iMac with the 10-core i9 and the crazy 5700 XT graphics for $3,200.
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Introduction - 00:00
Specs & Prices Compared - 0:39
Geekbench 5 CPU Benchmark - 2:50
Cinebench R20 Stess Test- 3:10
Geekbench 5 Metal Graphics - 3:25
Unigine Heaven Gaming Test - 3:42
PugetBench Photoshop - 4:38
Lightroom Classic Photo Editing - 5:06
Logic Pro X Music Production - 5:53
Xcode Programming - 6:23
Final Cut Pro X Video Editing - 6:48
H.264 & HEVC Footage - 7:04
RAW Codec Editing - 8:35
Performance Conclusions - 9:22
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Were you surprised by the difference in Logic Pro X performance since 2017? What about Xcode? Comment your thoughts below!
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you have a good jobs; I am going to odering my 2020 iMac
8 core i7 5500xt 8gb
I had to pause and think about your comment regarding whether it's worth it to go 10 core vs 8 core for Logic Pro X. I know your test pertains to tracks rather than effects, but I want to highlight a finding that a friend and myself discovered and tested over a few days in other DAWs that likely applies to Logic Pro X, as well. If you didn't know this before, I just wanted to enlighten you.
It is my understanding that in a lot of DAWs, effects that are stacked onto a single track will be designated to a single processing thread. This is large in part due to latency that would occur if the effects on a single track were scattered across different processing cores. The effect has to be processed then sent to the next effect to be processed, so on and so forth. Imagine if you had a pizza restaurant where the orders are taken, the prep work is done, and the pizza is baked-all in separate buildings across the city. That's a lot of additional time to add just to transfer the order, get it prepped, then baked, then brought back to the customer. That's why effects are done on a single processing thread-efficiency and realtime results that prevent delays and audible artifacts from occurring.
But some effects are far more CPU-intensive than others, and that means single-core performance is of utmost importance, especially if stacking effects is unavoidable. I ran into a situation across two DAWs where I was stacking effects and it was causing that CPU thread to be completely saturated. This caused a ton of artifacts in the playback, and performance was abysmal. Apple's official documentation recommends not saturating tracks with CPU-intensive effects by instead using send effects-which is relevant if you are used to repeating the same exact effect across multiple tracks. By using a 'send' effect, you can tell multiple tracks to send their audio to be processed by one instance of that effects plugin. That way, you don't have clones of the same effect across multiple processing cores, taking up valuable resources. This is pro-level knowledge, but there are undoubtedly rookies out there who don't know how to efficiently manage resources in a DAW like Logic Pro X.
It's important to know that for most people, their compositions don't have 100+ tracks all playing simultaneously. You might have a hundred tracks, but the audio for each track only really kicks in at certain parts of the song, so tracks mostly only use the CPU when it's needed. But if I had 100 tracks of audio trying to play simultaneously, my system would undoubtedly come to a halt. Orchestras and such might have a lot of tracks for each instrument or section, and so those workloads need more processing threads since there's a lot of tracks playing simultaneously, since a track basically gets its own CPU thread.
So, if you use a ton of CPU-intensive effects simultaneously or have a lot of tracks actually playing back audio simultaneously, additional processing cores could be incredibly valuable to prevent completely saturating a single CPU core-as in my experience, my processor couldn't keep up with my demand, and I encountered lag and artifacts while running playback or recording.
When you know how the DAW works and what tools it has to help you reduce CPU-usage (such as turning off effects processing for a muted track), you can really get efficient. But it does kind of require this deeper understanding to really diagnose these problems and tackle them.
Anyway, just thought I'd share. I'm a software engineer, tech enthusiast and amateur music producer of 10+ years, and you don't always get to hear this kind of stuff explained in a bit more detailed way. Hope this was useful!
@@DylanChau Very useful Dylan thank you
Damn bro wearing a hoodie in the summer. You got a savage AC
Naw he doesn't perspire like we do.
You, Max and Vadim, are (I am SERIOUS) making the most impressive apple youtube videos.
They’re not one person?
+Angelika
Agreed 👍
It's the same format over and over again. That's why it's working over and over again. ;)
ricky v and we do it so well :)
Man, i'm always so hyped when i see a new video from your channel! I really like you and your brother! I don't care what video it is, i watch and like it! I love how you don't do any ads in the middle of the video lately, it really takes away the focus. I rather have them in the beginning or the end of the video! Great job you guy's 😎
This is exactly the video I have been waiting for! I have the same 2017 model and I just bought the 2020 model - now I don't have to do all the testing because you guys did it for me!
This channel just went next level for in depth
Really helpful video, thanks guys!
Great video! It would be awesome if you could also do these comparison videos with the low end iMac models as well. I can never afford to get the high end model, and I think there are a lot of folks like me who would love that type of comparison as well. Thanks for all the hard work!
Luv ur vids bro! Keep it up
...and we're back. OMG, I adore you guys!
Thank you for the support!
You guys are seriously impressive! Thank you so much for the comparison! I ordered my 2020 5k model on Wednesday and it should be here in a couple weeks! I am indeed coming from a 2017 fully decked out model but this new 2020 model should be a worthy upgrade for sure. Keep up the great work Max and Vadim!
Which one is better?
Thank you for the Logic test 🙏 . Musicians watching, please share the video on Music forums to help these guys, and so maybe in the future we get even expanded LOGIC Pro X tests from them.
thanks for includng Cinebech R20 in the tests!!
Vadim, I am not surprised by these results. The 2020 is a pretty stellar step forward for the iMac. If we are fine with the older machines it probably means we don't have use for the newer hardware. I know I don't have use for newer hardware and that's why I haven't upgraded. One day of course.
Good work dude. See you on the next video.
Mine should arrive next week. My last one was the 2014, so yeah, really looking forward to this
Thanks for this comparison. I still edit photo and video with a fully spec’d out 2017 27” i7 iMac. My cameras only shoot h.264 and it’s still no slouch in editing. Until I upgrade both my cameras to newer ones that shoot HEVC/h.265 then I’ll upgrade to a whole new computer system
I NEEDED THIS
Grt video, thx. Was wondering how would the 2020 model handle blackmagic raw as compared to canon in terms of fps for editing in the timeline (in davinci resolve)?
It will be interesting the see the difference of performance between 8/10 cores and 32GB/64GB RAM with a VMware virtual machine running Windows for programming purposes
Great comparison. I’m debating if I should keep my nearly maxed out 10 core model with 16 gigs of v ram. Do you think my computer could handle 5.9k Canon raw light from the Canon c500 mark ii without the use of proxies? I only only really be interested in timeline performance of 24/25 frames per second with some headroom to colour grade it. I know you may not have a definitive answer. Any advice would be appreciated. I only have 7 days to return it. Would you say the 10 core iMac Pro with 16 gigs of v ram ( I forgot the name of the card ) would prove more helpful? Alternatively, do you think a 12-16 core Mac Pro with a w5700 x (16 gigs) would perform dramatically better for this type of footage considering the cost? also, the fans on my machine even when I am just browsing the web seem to be louder than my fans on my 2015 iMac. Have you found this to be the case with the 10 core model. I’m sorry for all the questions. Thank you!
oh my gosh, its the ultimate comparison, going to be ordering my imac this week!! i promise u, i need that 32gb of ram :D 1tB ssd and 8 core + 5700xt, and its all thanks to you guys! still on the fence with gigabit because i'll never use it but why not :D future proof hehe but i dont think i'll ever sell it either, its a game changer thank you for all that you do :D :D D:
Why not buy 8gb ram standard
And order 64gb ram kit and manually insert it for only about 460- 470 euros
Dna_Outflawz # I don’t need 64gb and the 32gb I will install myself you’re right i am ordering 8gb
Why are you on the fence about all those upgrades? We all need those. ;)
Did you ever order Louis? You’ve been talking about ordering for weeks now and all you do is post in the comments saying your ordering lol
Shesh sir fantastic Content man keep
As I am only editing iPhone videos, it doesn’t seem necessary to upgrade from 2017 model. The i5 is slower but still does the job well
Can you guys make a video about the screen tearing on imac with 5700xt. Many people including me experience this. Trying to figure out if it’s a software issue or hardware. Wondering if I should return this.
I’m still on my late 2015 quad core with Radeon m395 only have 2gb vram. Looking at the 8 core 2020. So I’ll be seeing an ever bigger speed increase. Even just going from a fusion drive to those nvme ssd.
What is the test environments for Logic Pro? What did you use on the tracks (instrument, plugin ..etc). Did you mean can Logic handle high processing plugins in 130 tracks?
Can you comment on Davinci Resolve exports? Davinci is more optimized to use the GPU gap. How does 2017 vs 2020 with timeline LUT and some NR in Davinci? I have the 2017 and want to edit 4k at full resolution with NR active..... seems like the 2020 wont get me there?
Can you guys do a comparision between Macbook Pro 16 models with these models?
Already man two videos like that. Just CZcams search then.
5:37 Were these compressed RAW images from the Sony A7RIII? Any idea if the fans on the 2020 iMac kicked in?
Is a 2019 with 32 GB ram , 2TB HD and Vega 48 worth it in 2021?
Hey! how true is the Radeon Pro 5700 XT 16 GB is presenting some issues, i have read its creating some lines in the screen
I am here for blackmagic speed test but it was not there
Any chance you could do the same test comparing a 5700xt in an eGPU vs. the 2020 with it built in?
Was considering doing that. We will see
This is cool and greatly appreciated, but could you please run tests for folks who edit with Premiere Pro and Resolve? There are a few exceptions, but most professional editors don't use FCPX.
I agree
Please do the same comparison with the Macbook Pro. 👍🏼👍🏼
Is there a way to upgrade the 2019 iMac to the new 2020 i7?
Yeah! thanks
The question is can the 2020 iMac play Flight Sim 2020 in Bootcamp with reasonable frame rates??
Anyone know if these iMacs can stream 4k movies from AppleTV/iTunes?
Interestingly I’ve been comparing my 2017 iMac (3.8GHz i5, 40GB ram, 580 Pro 8GB) against the new M1 MacBook Air. Except for Metal and OpenGL scores the M1 destroys it, so I ordered the Air with 8-core GPU, 8Gb ram and 1TB storage. Now damn, the Air is delayed so I won’t get it till January. I hope it’s worth it...
In the comparisons , Are you using just Audio tracks with recordings on them using LOGIC PRO X? Or Did you also record midi tracks using Software instruments and Loops from the library too?
I picked the i9 10core 2TB storage, adding 64 GB ram, 5700xt with 16gb vram, 10gb Ethernet port with no nano. Coming from a late 2013 21.5 inch with only 8 gb of ram. This new one is as good/better as the last iMac Pro, blows away the 2017 and still beats the 2019 and 2020 i7 8 core. In the long run I think the i9 10 core will future proof me and my needed uses till Apple silicon is perfected.
Again MaxTech thanks for your comparisons and videos.
Glad to help! I honestly have no idea. Just look up the new Logic Pro x 2 benchmark and see what’s in the files.
What’s the performance difference between the 5500xt vs 5700xt? Where I live, we have to wait 6-9 weeks for the 5700xt where as the 5500xt we can buy in the new Mac off the shelf. Need to know if it’s worth the wait
5700XT is about 50% better for graphics related tasks (like video editing and gaming)
So, if I buy this Intel iMac, will I be able to use future softwares after they switch to ARM processors? I am unable to decide whether to buy this or wait for the ARM ones. By the way, even these new iMacs haven't arrived yet in my country due to the disruption in supply chain because of covid19 pandemic.
if you want better battery life and you are a casual user, definitely wait for an ARM mac, and if you are a power user that uses third party apps and especially if you run windows 10, definitely buy an iMac right now
wow, in europe (France) the 2020 iMac with I9 + 8G ram + 5700xt + 512 SSD cost 3729€ >>> 4414$. Far more expensive :/
Excellent channel btw.
> “Before we get into video editing”
As if this isn't the main part of most iMac reviews on CZcams 🌚🌚😅
Great comparison. I wonder if there is a way of comparing dual-monitor LR Classic editing with heavy gradient filters and spot removal where the brushes come to a crawl: is it memory, is it clock speed, is it the video card memory or bandwidth?
Better performance for the newer model but increased maintenance cost (SSD soldered on board).
When’s the last time you had to replace the storage on your iPhone?
A 2017 27" iMac still worth it in 2021 or should I renew the one I have? I only do school work, no photography or video editing. Greetings from Mexico
Im about to buy one off of Amazon and it says it's an October 24, 2018 model. But i see he don't have a 2018 model on here. He has a 2017, 19, 2020 model. Did they not come out with an 2018 model?
audio & video track timeline ain't synced... lol but thanks for the thorough comparison and extensive tests
I just got th iMac 27 2020 best imac ever
WHAT IS UPCOMING IPAD PRO?NEXT VIDEO PLEASEEEE!!!
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Yes sign up for the free trial.
The 2017 imac supported uhs2 cards right?
Only the 2020 supports those speeds
Im about to buy one off of Amazon and it says it's an October 24, 2018 model. But i see you don't have a 2018 model on here. You have 2017, 19, 2020 model. Did they not come out with an 2018 model?
No they don’t have a 2018, must be a 2017 one.
BROTHER I DESPERATELY WANT A COMPARISON VIDEO OF IPAD PRO (2020) AND SAMSUNG TAB S7+ FROM YOUR CHANNEL
Tab s7 should be getting delivered in two weeks.
@@MaxTechOfficial That's Fine , And Yeah Thanks !
the 2020 iMac or the 2020 16 inch MacBook pro. which one should I get??
don't buy the 16" macbook pro yet. there may be an intel update soon
How are you exporting HEVC? Final cut?
Compressor with final cut
Shouldn't we wait for the new Apple A chip model that's coming in a few months than go with this?
Between a 2017 Core i5 (3.0GHz - HDD 1 TB - 8GB) and a 2019 Core i3 (3.6GHz - HDD 1 TB - 8G)-which would you choose?
tab s7 plus vs ipad pro please
How far have we come? Design wise, we've been rather stationary.
6:50 wait what
Wait where is the iMac Pro 18 core?
Why are you not talking about the graphical glitch on the 5700XT models? It's all over Apple support forums, Macrumors, 9to5 Mac, iLounge, AppleInsider, and elsewhere. Why are you not covering this problem that is affecting *every* 2020 iMac w/ 5700XT? Seems like a pretty serious issue that you are ignoring.
So Vega was built for compute workloads RDNA is built gaming first. This is why in metal or any other compute benchmark they are decently close but when it’s a gaming benchmark RDNA blows it away.
Can you do a comparison with a 2013 iMac...
No it’s way too outdated. No point for us to get one for a video.
@@MaxTechOfficial I know. It's my work iMac :-(
Hoping to convince the boss to get the 2020 iMac soon.
How far Apple SoC chip will go ? That’s the question ⭐️🍎⭐️ the future will be amazing 😉
I would love to see a comparison between the high end 2017 and 2019 vs the 5300 base model! To see how the new tech included has improved the performance for the new mac!
Thank you so much for not forgetting the 2017 model! most people, myself included, only upgrade every 4 years or so.
I have the opportunity to buy a 2017 for $800 iMac and I don’t know if I should wait for the 2021 iMac. I will use it primarily for music production and Im trying to think of long time it will be worth it
I’m getting Hardware Unboxed macOS vibes.
i watched this vid through 5k imac 2017 in 2024 😀
In your computer tests, can you include Pugetsystems Davinci Resolve benchmarking app? www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Puget-Systems-DaVinci-Resolve-Studio-Benchmark-1523/
The 2017 should have a design refresh with the adoption of Thunderbolt 3 just like the MacBooks. 2020 is here and yet no design refresh
I don't think iMac design refresh will happen until Apple Silicon Macs arrive, probably mid to late 2021
@@sushimamba4281 ikr, it's just that I'm pissed off with no redesign for 8 years.
@@sriramsundar8388 well it does suck a bit but it's not too bad as we had no tv redesigns for decades lol
First, buzzin!
Congratulations on the coveted first post. ;)
Super
More like how far have Intel & AMD improved.
My Every Morning Start with Your Video (IST +5:30), Young Tech enthusiast. But due to lack of money, I can't buy anything more than Mac Mini (which costs ₹1.04Lakh ~ $1349). If you assist me by giving away your any Old Mac (even the Trashcan), that would change my Life by helping to achieve my Goals.
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Hi
No way I'm first
To be honest, I only care about the new design
2020 it is a true competition about very few sec and minutes.....seriously????? Jesus help us!
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Hmm. My pc is 3 years old. I have a 7900x 10 core Intel CPU. 64gb ddr 4 ram. 1080ti GPU (faster than 5700 XT on the iMac). My 3 year old PC is actually faster than the 2020 version of iMac. I love Apple products. I am currently using it to edit Multicam 3 camera, 4k 60fps weddings. It works great. iMacs are always right at the limitation line. I don't like that. My 3 year old PC doesn't experience the bottleneck and upgrade yearly issue of an iMac. I can also change my GPU to RTX 3090 and 18 core CPU if I want on PC with the current motherboard. I'm just saying, Apple is missing the mark for me. Mac Pro out of my price range. Remember I said I edit weddings. Yea that. Hope this helps someone. Peace.
Sir please donate me an ipad i need it very badly.I'm a big fan of Maxtech.I watch your every single video.Please sir donate me an ipad😢😢May god bless you..
stop flapping your hands so much! distracting!!
I just need it for Excel, so the 2017 is the best choice