Monster Hunter Rise: Sunbreak - Lance | Shield Tackle and Silkbind Evade.
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- čas přidán 18. 06. 2022
- Silkbind Evade is not its official title, calling it that for now for the sake of simplicity.
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They revealed Shield tackle already but didn't show the usage all that much so thought I should include that move, this silkbind evade move is pretty much wirefall on command.
They buffed motion values across the board and you take reduced chip damage compared to base Rise, hopefully it performs just as good in the full game.
Increased MVs and reduced Chip damage is a Lancers dream tbh.. Yea they could've given us some flashy move and such but Lance's kit synergies really well with Skill Swap.. Plus the option to Swap Twin Vine is already a win.. All the Counter buff stacks and gives you insane damage.. Cross Slash deals respectable damage now as well..
Overall Lance in Sunbreak is looking really good.. If there's any wish I would want is to have Elemental Lance shine in sunbreak..
@@vivid8979 I think the regular shield charge follow up would be tuned for that.
@@Harv-E That's excitin to here.. Also looking forward to the other weapons. Good job with this one my dude.. 👌
@@vivid8979 CB is coming up in few hours, didn't feel like I did Lance justice in any capacity here pretty much new to Lance in Rise and it feels very different from Iceborne version.
@@Harv-E Showing us the hidden switch skill in enough.. 👍. Thanks will be keeping an eye on the next weapons.
Recall shield. Diving Lance. We’re an insect Glaive and our bug is our shield.
@mayte Can't wait for the shield to heal me too, but instead of hitting an opponent I get healed for blocking an attack (Monster hunter gen ult I'm looking at you) XD
This here is the ever so rare lancer main take note as you may never see one in your hunting career
@mayte On frontier, extreme style lance have 3 bars that fills up whenever you block an attack, activating it depending on how many charges you collected gives buffs. 1 charge is lifepowder, 2 charges is lifepowder+dash juice and 3 charges is lifepowder+dash juice+50 raw atk
This is a lot better than twin vine, but that's a very easy bar to reach
Twin Vine received some pretty good buffs though. It now costs only 1 wirebug, and boosts your guard capabilities. IIRC, the animation to deploy it is also faster.
@@JamesNintendoTurd I can probably see myself using both then, evasion with skyward thrust so I have an on demand escape tool and twin vine with spiral thrust because you need a strong guard to use that effectively. (Edit: spelling)
Twin vines got buffed on demo. Try it. feels better than before. Even insta block got buffed. Better than the small window we got before. Lance just feels more solid than before.
Amusing how this was a better ad for Lance than what Capcom put out.
Oh nice, first lance got diving wyvern now we also got the recall kinsect
Capcom clearly knows what to do with this weapon
Silkbind evade - A quick way to get rid of the Anchor Rage Buff!
It goes away if you sheath?
@@Harv-E unless they fix it, I think so
@@Harv-E Yeah, both the spiral thrust and anchor rage guard buffs would be cancelled if you sheathed your weapon in base Rise. Unless they changed that, although the move is still useful, it's a bit less good. Not like those buffs lasted very long in base Rise anyway.
Who uses Anchor Rage anyways?
@@david_8916 Probably a lot of people since it got fixed/buffed
Shield tackle is the most OP move I've ever seen in Lance. Unstoplable, spammable , no stamina use. New meta
If I wanted to dodge instead of block I wouldn't be holding this reinforced car door and long range poking stick.
I guess if you hate instablock God mode, then you have this, I just want the skyward thrust to not lock you in animation and be cancellable mid air, and be able to dash after the landing, but meh, we always find a way to make lance fun anyway, otherwise we wouldn't main it.
Pretty much good if you feel like getting one stun throughout the hunt, Lance is at it's best when the monster is standing and fighting you back.
That quick evade option was nice though, gets you out of tough spots a lot.
@@Harv-E tried that tackle in demo with "patch", the downside is the weapon sharpness but overall we can do infinity poke lmao
Edit: also i wonder in the future if flinch free lv3 can block big/heavy atk from monster while using tackle since in demo i always got knocked back
They say that swapping will cancel/shorten any long animation attacks. Has anyone tried using the Skyward Thrust then mashing the swap evade?
well said my lance friend wish we got more cool stuff for lance
Instablock just feels clunky to use. Even if they've improved the timing of it, it just feels weird to press your shield button for it. Insta block should have just been a switch skill replacement for counter.
You are doing God's work here man, thank you for showcasing everything. I wanted to ask if perhaps you could do dual blades next, I am really curious to know the details about the sharpness move. Anyway keep up the good work man
You know what lance mains would have REALLY Loved instead of skyward thrust?
Bringing back Enraged Guard and Corkscrew Thrust, that or healing shield for super tanking.
That’s the worst part, Anchor Rage is both enraged guard AND corkscrew thrust combined, but extra disappointing and weak in both regards.
I am happy they increased damage duration for anchor rage, motion values for insta block, and made twin vines actually useable, though.
Isn't corkscrew already in rise as normal combo when you press hold shield and high poke?
@@illuminaughty2813 Technically yes, but in comparison to its damage and actual animation from G.U Hell No
@@tylermalone6466 maybe they want us to try something new
@@illuminaughty2813 If that's your argument why even bring back Arts as "Switch Skills" at all, much less the Sunbreak ones like (Spiral Slice-Dual Blades), (Impact-Hammer /Hunting Horn), ("Bargain Bin Chaos Oil- SnS),(Extract Hunter- Insect Glaive).
Thank you so much my man
Silkbind evade? Maybe it's just me, but I'm playing lance why do I want to evade? I'm supposed to stay on top of the monster and east whatever it can throw at me. I mean I guess you can use it for mobility, but I don't think Lance has any mobility problems. Looks like just another meh still to me. It's better than Twin Vine, though that not hard to do.
In past games, evade lance was almost always the end game lance build. Eventually, chip damage, stamina consumption, knockback and unlockable attacks outweigh or outright remove the benefits of guard skills, so evasion becomes the way to go. It also makes the weapon feel incredibly more mobile.
@@Glorious_Mane I'm aware of evade lance. I just feel like it defeats the purpose of the weapon. From a design perspective it doesnt make sense. Im all for different playstyles but i dont think evading should be pushed more than blocking with the giant shield thats part of the weapon. It's Iike slaplance for gunlance play. Why does melee damage get pushed more than shelling when shelling is the unique feature of the weapon and literally the only thing that makes it different from its Lance cousin? I've never understood this design philosophy. This silkbind evade will make the evade Lance's happy, but for people like me that like to stand their ground, it's just meh.
Twin vines utility went up as well. Now it boosts your guard.
@@TaqSoto I don't think you realize how amazing it's gonna be for when you need to get out of a bad situation cause you're out of stamina or low in health. Trying to run away with a lance is incredibly hard.
Even when you play evade lance you're still right next to the monster after the evade. This silkbind evade is more of an "o shit!" button that can cancel your animations while making you invulnerable at frame 0 with the caveat that you will have to close the gap between you and the monster again.
I honestly thought Lance could use a move where the hunter slams the shield and the back of the lance for a single heavy damage stab
then the monster runs/flies off with the pokey boi and you will have to recraft the weapon
I don't know how to feel about them. It's nice to have a more offensive shield move by I rather wanted to have a chargable multiple hitting thrust attack or something. like corkscrew jab from GU.
We can only 🤞 and hope.
Even a charged flurry thrust would have been nice. Maybe something like that could be a switch skill for the charged sweep where you have the option to charge up your third poke for a multihit flurry instead.
@@atomicbanana55 Yeah, that sounds like a good idea.
Thanks for the effort and your time, these are expertly done !
Do we lose the ability to perform a lunging thrust after Shield tackle ?
Don't think we can that would make shield charge useless, I reckon they want us to use guard charge for elemental playstyle.
We can go into charging attacks right after this move btw.
@@Harv-E Yeah i thought as much. Guess I can't have everything, it was really good for elemental too as its a 2-hit move. Thanks for taking the time to reply :)
You could've highlighted how the shield tackle could also be used to reset your 3 thrust combo. It doesn't move you too far, it deals decent damage, can combo into more 3 thrust combos, and you can turn it in any direction. It's a really good move.
I felt like that can mess up my positioning a bit due to it being an advancing move, it did feel like a faster way to change direction of your attacks should've mentioned that.
@@Harv-E Since it is so short-range and you can turn around with the attack again, I feel like it's worth it for the extra damage. I treat it like sword and shield's roundslash basically.
@@Harv-E Nice video btw!
@@Harv-E it is great against astalos or even malzeno. poke poke poke, hop to side, keep poking the same spot. also you can do the skyward thrust right after you hop so you can safely position yourself under the monster and punish it. honestly i thought lance would be garbage but it feels really nice and solid
Loving Valor Lance 2.0.
Thank you sir, may i have another?
Ok i have one more wish: Can Anchor Rage please work differently as it is now in Rise? Which buff you get is decided by the amount of knockback the blocked move would give you. So if you build Guard on your set Anchor Rage actually gets weaker because you will only get the yellow buff for the extremely hard moves like Magnamallo dive bomb for example. I think it´s kind of counter intuitive.
this got fixed in the demo, anchor rage ignores your guard level in sunbreak.
@@10100viperman That's cool. Lance seems pretty good then in Sunbreak
feels like im gonna use all the same skills as now except they do actually damage the monster i hope. Which tbh is all i hoped for anyway.
these "reveals" are great! could you show the ls move that wasn't revealed, and maybe the counter potential of sacred sheath?
Working on CB move right now, will do LS after that.
Silkbind evade is literally just "recall kinsect". Another move stolen from ig
Lance will get a kinsect in MH6.
@@luck002 kinsect as a shield lol
IG stole the cluster bomb from HBG.
LS has a charge attack now so it stole it from GS..
That demo kinsect is actually baby Teostra.
Still waiting for a complete lance rework. Maybe when Monster hunter 30 comes out.
Did Lance just get IGs Kinsect Recall?
And that diving wyvern move too.
it'd be a really goofy idea if you could toss your shield and have the silkbug pull it back to you or you to it.
honestly I enjoy twin vines enough and don't really need to sheath to often anyways. so I will probably keep twin vines, but it's a good use skill for some laser heavy match ups.
Just wanna clarify, Shield Tackle being a parry means it doesn't care about your level of guard, like Insta-Block and Anchor Rage, right? If so, Guard 0 Lance got a *massive* buff this expac
It does negate knockbacks on heavy attacks due to it being a parry move so more space for other offensive skills for Lancers I guess.
Cool! I wonder if the evade can avoid unblockable moves like grabs etc
I think that's the intention for this move, that Astalos beam attack can't be blocked without guard up so this moves saves us in those moments.
@@gamecavalier3230 I did say we need guard up to block it, probably the way I said it confused you, my bad.
@@gamecavalier3230 that what he said.
@@gamecavalier3230 don't worry about it, it happens.
WHY DIDNT THEY SHOW THE EVADDDDDDE
Yoooo, what is this armor though??
Yooo Absolute Evade Lancing is back, that's kinda hype actually. Wish it came with Absolute Readiness somehow but it's still cool to have.
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Silkbind Evade is the saddest excuse for a skill. So many weapons are getting cool moves and lance just gets an evade.
It seems that all silkbinds get put into two categories: "attack" Silkbinds and "utility" Silkbinds. Not every Silkbind is a damaging attack, some just reposition the hunter.
You think this is sad? Great Sword just gets a move where they slide backwards.
@@TornaitSuperBird lol, ikr? it's looks so stupid. can't say for surge slash because we haven't see MV, but honestly i don't like it. compared to power sheath why would i give out my buff anyway
Lance = IG - Kinsect + Shield
I mean if they are just giving Lance Insect Glaive attacks why dont u give us Shield throwing like Captain America
So the lance got absolute evade from gu and a better instand guard, that actually not bad.
That tackle make you do 4 hit continously with 3 poke, like poke poke poke tackle poke poke poke tackle and yes it's deal dmg. Also the tackle can tank malzeno 1 hit atk
@@illuminaughty2813 Oh, i see now, so now we can poke poke poke tackle, this could make guard lance viable again, sweet.
@@khiemnguyen9221 the downside is weapon sharpness, cus we continously atk nonstop
@@illuminaughty2813 but that can be easily mitigated by speed sharpening or protective polish
Is it just me or Lance actually starting to become Aerial Lance in Sunbreak lol?
I'm not complaining tho, any extra mobility is nice.
...no?
but you dont have any serious aerial attack? except for the new skyward thrust if you want to count that. But it feels more like an anti air move
@@MrCrypto137 Im using it to dodge and return fire, other than that it doesnt really do anything. A wide sweep does more damage and is faster.
@@ligaar0849 Skyward Thrust can deal pretty nice damage if you land all hits on a weakspot. Like 500-600 damage. It works best on Tetra when he ate the rocks or Astalos when his Wings are a weakspot. It's a situational move for sure but it should be nice vs big monsters that have high weakspots like wings or monsters that are flying.
Why would they give Lance an evasion counter when the purpose of lance is to stay close and do damage? Whenever you sheath your weapon, you lose the damage buffs from anchors rage and spiral thrust so what's the point of this new skill? Just introduce a new Lance weapon at this point... Should have just given Lance the clutch claw counter from world.
Use it backwards dude. Now it's an engage tool
Wow this is sad tbh, none of this makes me want to use the lance, gunlance looks miles better than this.
I know I already commented before but honestly, after seeing all of the other weapons now showcased on your channel... Even as a heavy Lance main... I'm struggling to stick with it after seeing what every other weapon got... I knew I was disappointed before but come on... Look at HBG, Switch Axe, the my god almighty babied to high heaven auto counter now... LS... When I saw that it was basically over... Granted I won't ever touch that noob stick but still, how can all 13 other weapons get gameplay defining changes throughout and Lance gets... This... I have 6 days to decide what my new weapon will be... I hate to ditch the Lance but getting guard dash 2, diving wyvern and then there's the evade... After reflecting, why would a Lance user want to be airborne with their weapon sheathed? Can the Lance capitalize on being in the air? Can we combo it into Skyward Thrust? No? So... Why? I don't understand where these abilities came from, what their intended uses are actually supposed to be, what holes in the Lances kit they were designed to fill and what changes to the overall gameplay for Lance they're supposed to bring to the table. I'm lost how they could have so little for this weapon in comparison to the rest. I can guarantee you Lance will still remain using Anchor Rage and Spiral thrust. Anchor Rage will be used in tandem with Twin Vine and Spiral Thrust will still be what it was. I don't see Skyward being used as it doesn't have any utility within the move like Anchor and Spiral do. I also don't see Shield Tackle being used when guard dash can leap you in multiple directions and shield charge already does what shield tackle does. Lance doesn't need an evade when you have counters on wirebug that keep your uptime active so I don't see the evade being used much either. If guard up wasn't a skill, then sure possibly but guard up is so we can just block. I don't know... Everything about sunbreak is looking fantastic, locales monsters the 13 other weapons, I'm beyond excited for everything but Lance.😭
It's crazy that people are crying about the evasion skill. How could it possibly be useless? It's gonna be one of the most useful skills for lance period. Have you never tried to get away from a monster because you're in a bad spot with your stamina or health but can't cause putting away your weapon takes 20 years?
Also, you can literally use it as gap closer by just turning around.
Besides, it’s not like evade lance wasnt a playstyle in the past
(Though maybe that was i-frame evasion not distance evasion so forgive me if I got them confused)
@@emblemblade9245 Are you referring to MH4U's Lance with Evasion +3,
where the hunter can long hop continuously 3 times and be completely invulnerable during it?
Yeah, while i think lance can afford something else cooler than Skyward Thrust, the evade is not bad at all.
Let say for example Valstrax goes kame-ha while u are in middle of poking. You can either be a gigachad and instablock all 3 (or 2 I forgot) hits, or hunker down and take a crap ton of chip dmg. Or now you can just nope the heck out of there.
It sure isn't a cool skill, but pretty useful.
I was just saying the same thing. This looks like best inclusing for lance so far. Looks ridiculously good for repositioning on mknsters who run around alot
I think the frustration is more that Lance is getting IG hand-me-downs that don't seem terribly thought out while LS's Harvest Moon would literally be perfect to put on Lance. Regardless of the utility of things like the new shield dash's followups, all of the new moves are just quality of life for things that Lance does already. There's nothing transformational here like what LS, SA, or GL got. It's not that these moves are going to be LiTeRaLlY uSeLeSs, it's that they're not terribly fun, interesting, or creative.
So my concerns with Shield Tackle were true, it only moves forward. The only thing left to test is if it does more or less KO damage than Guard Dash slaps. I'm so glad Twin Vine can be replaced, even with the changes I don't like it. The extra guard will be fine for speedrunners and stuff but I run G5 Gup1 mandatory in all my lance builds anyways so the absolute evade seems really nice since we can combo it right into a shield charge from the air. All I can say is why the absolute fuck is this infinitely better than capcoms trash trailer? lol... HeY tHeRe HuNtErS, HeRe'S LaNcE nEw SkY pOkE mOvE oN tHe ThIcKeSt SkUlL lul, HoPe U lIkE... I shouldn't be so mean but really... Come on... At least Lance will have some new tech to use but I still wish we got some taunt mechanic like how the Behemoth fight worked in world or maybe give the Lance a wound like the clutch claw had. That way the Lance would be a lot more viable in Multiplayer, add to the hunt as a tank and damage bonus to a party, otherwise right now Lance just exists for those of us that play it.