Key Stuck! Ignition Switch Replacement VW Jetta
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2023
- I did a previous video of this and there were many questions. I made this video focusing more on those specific questions and hopefully answered them! If you have any more, leave a comment and once I gather up enough, I'll make another follow up.
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Thanks a LOT! This saved me around 800$ and only took 1.5 hours in total. Especially thanks for showing the repair without the need for removal of the airbag and steering wheeI. Much appreciated!
I just want to say , I am 30 year female , who is NOT in any way a mechanic and I studied this video for two days and successfully replaced my cylinder and attached the old key lock switch and the back sensor….I’ve been doing the George Jefferson all day! I never comment on videos even if I am successful but I felt so compelled to leave this much worthy praise ! Thank you so much ! This saved me 1200 dollars !
The George Jefferson 🤣🤣🤣
I am a female as well. The bolts are the only thing I am stumped on.
@@Amy_Moss2021 I helped my son do this about a month ago and the hardest part was getting the tool to get any angle so it can turn the bolt. Be patient. At first I was skeptical that it would really work for us. Short hard taps with a hammer and a punch should create a bit of bite in the bolt head. Once you get it to move even a little, it goes pretty quick from there. It only moves very little at a time so I had to keep resetting and tapping a new bite into the bolt head each time. But it does work. Good luck
I just drill the shit out of it. I used a normal drill. I cut the bit so the drill can fit between the plastic and the bolt. I kept going up 3 times on sizes and the last bit spun the bolt head off.
My problem is getting the keep clip out. Any suggestions
Thank you so much. The mechanic quoted me $1,000 for this. I did it for $50.
Hey ! First of all I want to thank you for both your videos about this issue. I just fixed my car 5 minutes ago, it’s finally run!!!
Spent around 4 hours yesterday to take apart everything inluding steering wheel and lock, if you guys struggle , it is how it’s supposed to be , so just keep trying, I was about to give up a couple of times but this Tech’s success made me keep trying !
Just listen and pay attention to every detail this man said , or you will struggle like me.
Few tips.
1. Get different picks !
2. If you can’t achieve success in removing cylinder lock out of housing - USE DIFFERENT SMALL needles , picks , everything that you can find and try, I pulled it out only after 4th pick that I tried. If it doesn’t come out - then pick is not in the place , it should come out easily!
Thank you so much good man !
Shout out from BMW of Dallas trainee tech 🎉
GREAT video, I watched 6 or 7 other videos before finding yours. I was ready to go out and buy an angle drill and set of easy outs expecting to fully dismantle the steering wheel, air bag, steering column, etc just to be able to drill out the bolts, until I watched your video. What seemed like an all day job just to get to the retaining bolts took me 90 mins, and removing the bolts with the dot punch, 5 mins, and thats with a claw hammer not even a half size brass mallet. Thank you so much, and yes, you are right, the hardest part was finding the clip that held the barrel in place. I would imagine that it also saved a small fortune. Thank you so much.
Came for some advice stayed for the 24 karat gold hammer, Thanks a bunch
Wow this video saved me a bunch of money thought I'd have to go to the dealership to get a new keyed for the anti theft but didn't. You are a lifesaver my friend I did this project in about 6 hours.
This vid made life easier for all parties involved. Thank you. 🙌
Thank you so much You're right on I did forget to plug it in . I owe you a beer . You're a good individual.
Awesome video(s) on this replacement! I did mine today, and it took me less than two hours of working time (I did have to go back to VW to swap the lock housing, because they originally gave me the wrong version of it, but I'm not counting that in the time it took).
Not an "easy" job, but easier than I expected it to be. Taking pictures of where the wires go as I went, and referring to the video made all the difference. (Also make sure you have all the tools you'll need before you start).
Things I learned along the way:
-Getting the security bolts out was easier than I expected; maybe mine were not cranked in too tight?
-Make sure the T25 bolts are all the way tight on the sides of the wheel before trying to clip the plastic back into place, or else things won't line up right.
Thanks again!
Great Video!! Seeing you do a couple of these makes me wonder how often they go bad
Very often unfortunately. from the past 2 weeks I have 3 sitting on my tool cart.
Yo this video helped me out a lot, thank you!
Thank you for the video, my friend just bought a 2015 Jetta and broke the key because that cylinder is tough to turn off.
Thank you very much.Video was really helpful.
I'm an automotive locksmith and what we do is take a die grinder and grind a slot in those bolts after they are out and use a flathead screwdriver to reinstall them.
too messy for me and takes longer. I used to do that way.
@@deamonmachine A lot of times as a locksmith we aren't repairing these or any others that use shearhead bolts. They might need a rekey or we repair them as in they have bent and or worn wafers. We do our thing and reinstall. If we need a new unit which is rare for us than we use the new shearhead bolts. Being mobile we don't carry a bolt and screw supply cabinet with us so slotting them is quick an easy for us and yes a bit messy.
I haven't done this myself but people have drilled out the side cap removed the spring and the pin reinstalled without it and supposedly it never locked up again. I'm sure those parts have a function with the steering lock but you would know more about this than me.
@@scotts4125 I drilled out and removed the guts of mine because I didn't want to buy a ~$200 housing when I really don't care. It just locks the steering wheel.
@@deamonmachine Once doing that does it lock at all? Taking that broken piece out is the cause so to me it's a fix. The real theft deterrent is the key any way at least to me. The steering lock has been kept from before the transponder days. We have had cars that were locked and we needed the wheel to turn. Many times a few blows with a rubber mallet or open palm to the steering wheel while turning the wheel at the same time would release the lock but I didn't tell you that. :)
I noticed that you tested whether the key works in the new ignition housing without being installed on the car. I recall other videos mentioning to not spin the ignition lock unless it is installed on the car, as it could permanently damage the mechanism. What do we need to be aware of? Thanks a ton!
Great video. Thank you. Did you use the same bolts ?
Great video, this is on my to do list. My beetle key won't turn in the ignition. I bought the ignition switch but I believe its more this problem.I have dash lights, and all the things but the key won't turn even with jiggling. Did you get the new assembly from the dealer?
hey quick question great video by the way, i was wondering what tools you used or if i could get a list of them
Amazing video. On the first video (How To Remove and Fix the Ignition Switch in 2012 VW Jetta DIY), you disconnected the speed shifter and moved the car out of park position. Why is that necessary? I don't see this being mentioned/required in this second video.
How do you drill out the dark grey circle thing to get the key to turn more to line up the holes for the paper clip to properly work its magic?
My mk5 golf key will only turn to position one in the ignition it will come out, is it the same to take apart. Great video 👍 didn't know it was a vw problem.
How about a 2008 vw Jetta, 5 speed 2.5, it has a circuit board under the lock cylinder it a plastic housing. How do you remove that, or will it drop with the cylinder after i drill the top bolts?
I’m going to do this job soon, where did you get your parts from?
I have jetta 2011 .My car shifts first two gears at 3000-3500 and not have that much power but if i accelerate the rpm goes same but car moves with power. No engine light . Sparks plugs changed. I also clean the valve . Any suggestions????
Could I buy an assembly form a salvage yard? Its about $100 for the whole column, but people are telling me I will need to program the key.
Wondering if you have a suggestion of what I did wrong. After I installed it thinks key is in even After I remove it. So I can't lock the car.
I have a question if the key is broke off can you still use it if you I get it out
Thank you for the great video! I’m at the part trying to remove the key mechanism from the cylinder and the hole (where you stick the T-pin through) doesn’t align with the side of the mechanism that yours does.. I can turn the key but it seems to be 180 degrees from yours. Can I still get it to release that way?
If you can make a short video of what's going on and link me (make a short?) I'll be happy to do what I can
@@deamonmachinecan you let me know what the fix was? I’m having the same problem. Thanks.
Great video! Does the key have to be turned fully in the ignition before removing the ignition from the old housing (the part where you drilled the old housing)
Only to the "on" position, you don't have to fight the spring pushing the key back the whole time. So just click it forward as far as it goes and let go, and that's the position that the lock cylinder release lever can be accessed at.
So, I have had the EXACT same issue with my 2009 VW Jetta SE Sportwagen. My ex tried to FORCE the key to turn and start after a good year of having to make sure you held ur mouth right and jiggled &turned the key just right all at the same time in order to start it. I still have the original key &fob and the original ignition module after I replaced with a whole new module etc... now I am trying to remove the original ignition switch and replace the new one with it instead of using the new key that came with the new ignition &switches attached. Because he tried to start it with it the first time after the initial replacement if I remember correctly. Now the vehicle is in SAFE mode via the display in the center of the instrument cluster and after starting up strong as hell again without any issues first try, it runs a few seconds and blinks SAFE again &the immobilizer cuts the engine. It does exact same thing even when I've thought I was successful in hard resetting the ECU by touching the two battery cables together for a length of time to clear it out. But again, that was with the new module and key it came with while the original fob key was on the dash. If I can ever beat this old engine module enough to get it to let my key turn, &I'm successful in removing it & switching it out with the new1, will that solve my issue? I'm in a horrible spot rn having just escaped a LOOONG violent marriage and I truly NEED this vehicle atm for my daughter and I. He has tried to destroy it but I fixed everything else already. Mostly switches, interior oh &he sliced all 4tire sidewalls and I jacked up the back end, put it on stands, &removed two tires at a time to replace them which pretty much broke me but uk it is what it is. If I can fix the s issue she &I will at least be mobile &I can get a good job I don't have to work where I can walk to it. Thx for anything you may think of. &Btw I am a woman but my daddy taught me how to do everything a man can so I am mechanically inclined lol. Should be able to follow u. Thx again especially if you made it this far &God bless u for ur AMAZING VIDEOS!
My neighbor has a 2010 Jetta in mint condition but it has a broken ignition. He’s asking $1500 for it ? Think it’s worth it?
I watched your video and changed it in no time. Your vide was super informative. Unfortunately i didnt realize that the the immobilizer harness wasn’t fully plugged in. The car started and dies with a NO KEY DETECTED. I looked over it and found the mistake. I then fully seated the plug and tried it again and now the car starts and dyes after a second with a Driver ASSISTANCE/BRAKE ERROR Message. I tried unplugging the battery for 15 min and no luck. Any idea of a correction? The keys still operate the doors and are the original keys. Any advise would be huge.
Hey man! I had the same issue, have you had any luck on how to fix it?
I'm trying to get all the tools together for this job. How long should the punch be? I see most of them are 4-5 inches. Would that be long enough?
Just standard punch size that they come in, no need for a giant one. Also don't turn the ignition switch w/o having the ignition LOCK inside of the housing (the part the key goes into, that comes out of the housing). Once you have it assembled as it was right before you dropped it out of the car taking it out, it'll be fine to turn the key to make sure it works. Results may vary and I can't guarantee anything cause reasons.
Thanks very much, also found this useful for my 2011 Skoda Octavia. Saved me a £600 bill from the local Skoda Garage
I really want to thank you for responding. But it's in safe mode would the Ring cause safe mode
How do you know it's in safe mode? Does the Radio say "SAFE"?
@@deamonmachineokay I left a comment on your last video I watched your follow-up I still don't see why my vehicle says no key detected starts and dies after a second or two, all the wires are connected properly I didn't have this issue until I replace the cylinder lock which I'm confused because I just replace the mechanical part and all the electronics are still the same that were working before?
So why does the top cover not come out?
My 2010 jetta has been at a shop for a whole month for exactly this repair but their issue is that they cant get my key to reprogram to the new ignition. Was there something that could have been done to prevent this?
Yes, they should have left the original lock cylinder and just replace the cylinder housing
I cannot see what im looking at in the video when youre talking about the tabs to get the ignition to drop…. where are these tabs
I took the bolts out. How the hell do you take it out
You could provide a link to where you purchased the part??
We get it from our suppliers, but Napa/Autozone/Advanced should be able to get ahold of it.
My problem is the key won't go in. Is it possible to just replace the lock cylinder part (the black part that holds the key cylinder) and if yes do you still have to remove the whole lock housing as shown in this video?
If your key won't get in, then you will still have to remove the housing cause the key must turn to get that lock cylinder out, you'll have to figure out a creative way to get that apart.
I've got to change this on my daughter's 2009 Jetta. Just curious, what should a normal or average shop price be on this work? I think the VW dealership is trying to have an office party on what they want to charge. Thanks!
I honestly have no idea, the prices on the ignition assemblies seems to vary a lot depending on which version is available.
Are there any other ways to get the bolts loose? I have been trying almost day and it doesn’t want to budge at all. I have bought a punch and hitting it at different angles like you are with no success!
drill and use a bolt removing tool like an easy out? That's how I used to do it but the punch and hammer worked soo much easier.
Okay so the tool called easy out?? Does that tool attach to the drill??
@@niahh8218 You would need a drill bit for cutting metal and then the Easy out (Easy Out is a brand name, specifically a trademarked name for a type of screw extractor.) If you are going to a tool store you'd ask for "Bolt extraction tools" or "bolt extraction bits, I think lowes and home depot carry some.
So you just replace the housing and it still works with the same key no need to go to the dealer and get a new key to work with the chip in it?
Did you ever figure out an answer to this?
What tool you used for the screw that holding the housing??
are you talking about the punch and chisel?
Yes sir.i did try but no luck for me. Not even move 😂😂😂😂. I think I need to drill it
I replaced the cylinder and put back the old key .so it turns now but starts then shuts off . Not sure what to do Any help help.thanks .
You didn't plug in the wire that goes to the ring that is around the key when it's in the ignition
On a VW, if you start it and it shuts off all by itself with 1 second (not stuttering, not stalling, just shutting off), then it's an immobilizer issue. The Ring that goes around the key detects the key and lets it start. Check that plug (you can get it in w/o taking it all apart, just the covers off).
I swapped out my ignition switch and tried to turn on my car, it turned on for a second but then turned off and went in to SAFE mode. What do I do next. Please help me.
plug in the key sensor (the black ring around the key), you have to take the covers back off again to do it. What's happening is the immobilizer is not detecting the key and the car shuts itself off.
Like your video John
My ky snapped in that cylinder too
Waiting for my replacement to arrive but I find this video very handy.
Don't know if I'll to need to remove the steering wheel or not (will like to avoid that).
I own a 2011 Sportwagen with the 2.5.
Cost at the dealer $250USD, Amazon: $25.
I'm also waiting for the sunshade replacement for the panoramic sunroof:
Dealer: $800USD; Amazon: $20
Whatsup with the dealers cost this days?
I remember it was not so bad to give them the car....
Grat video
Had to drill the blipping screws after 2 hours of hitting and accomplish nothing.
Other than that this video make this task fairly easy.
Thank you!
Ok so the key remains the same?
Because it has the microchip in it that is super expensive.
Im going to give this a go. My key wont turn at all, so I'm pretty sure this is the fix. Thanks for your videos
Yes, the key is the same key cause you are moving over the "lock" part of the switch.
So I completed the whole process now my car say key not in range but I can unlock the doors with it
And I just replaced the battery in the key fob
@@chrisruiz5820 Just a lesson in FOBS. The battery is only for the remote as in the unlock/lock buttons. You don't need the FOB battery to start the car. The transponder in the key is picked up by the antenna. For all you guys that can't start their cars after doing this you did something wrong with antenna and it's not picking up the transponder in the fob. It's the ring around the cylinder. You either didn't install correctly, broke it or didn't plug it in.
My key doesn’t turn fully and im going to buy a new housing and replace it with the old one. The new one comes with 2 keys. How would i code it to work for the car or will it just work like normal?
there's no coding, just swap the lock cylinder (the part the key goes into) into the new housing.
@@deamonmachine i have no key you see so i cant even take it off. Thats why im resorting to changing the whole thing
@@BandsGiddyah, no key is a big issue.
@@deamonmachine yeah i had to get it recovered 😩. I’ve ordered a new whole locking barrel with the ignition switch and immobilised with 2 keys. Do you think swapping it out completely will work? This is my hardest job yet an im not a mechanic 😅
what is the big center piece called?...the one that the bolts screw into...thanks
the ignition lock housing
@@deamonmachine thanks
I NEED HELLLP DIRECTLY ONE ON ONE LMBO
Why do the mechanics tell me the need to reprogram it ? They have to get a lock smith to reprogram the car ?
I have no good answer other than ill informed or nefarious reasons.
cut a flat spot in the bolts and use a screw driver in it for next time ;)
Smart
You can use small needle nose pliers and they spin off
what spins off?
Are you sure we shouldn’t take a 2” whole saw and drill up through the bottom of the steering column? I mean right before we back the VW off the flatbed through the glass of the dealership floor and tell them they should’ve fixed this bullsh in testing when it happened to their test drivers 100 times.
knowing my luck the 'tamper-proof' bolts will be a bitch
They aren't torqued that tight. A few good solid wacks will loosen them up. (assuming there isn't somehow rust up there, if that's the case good luck)
If you happen to be in AZ, give me your number, thanks
I live on the other coast.
What was keeping the key from turning?
the internals come apart and jam the mechanical linkages. 90% of the time I can get it freed up at least one more time to drive it. Lots of turning the key and jiggling. Sometimes they are good and jammed and I have to drill out part of it (not sure what it's called cause there's not exactly an exploded view of that part). Otherwise i take it off first then beat the crap out of it to get it to turn to get the lock cylinder out.
@@deamonmachineyoo thanks for the video man, if I can't get the key to turn after beating on it just drilling out the darker metal area on the barrel should do the trick?