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To that guy from the Mercy post, telling someone "You suck" is the fastest way to make someone stop listening to you.
As a support, anytime a teammate gripes and gets all pissy like that, my immediate thought is “welp, guess who isn’t getting heals”.
@@Turtlpwr how to be soft and stay hardstuck speedrun
@@lou1035cry less and you’ll get healed
@@Turtlpwrso anytime your teammates get annoyed you throw the game??? Don’t think I’d wanna die on that hill
I think that's why they asked how to make the point WITHOUT saying it.
I just gotta add, if you see high healing numbers from your supports it doesn't mean they're healbotting, it means you're feedbotting. Three choices: either use hard cover and get more buffs, don't use cover and get no buffs, or don't use cover and get buffed for the 1 second you're alive
oftentimes the only reason they're taking so much damage in the first place is because you aren't doing damage. it's impossible to not feed when your kiriko and ana are both healing you and ignoring the wide open squishies. the more damage you deal as a support, the more pressure you're putting on the team, the more pressure on them the less space they're able to take, the less space the enemies are able to take the less damage your team takes. it is because you're healbotting
Well no, not at all. My Mccassidy gameplay is top tier, I'm shooting their roadhog and getting 8000 damage, which means there's no reason we should lose this game, so obviously if my Kiriko gets over 3k healing she must be healbotting and she's the sole reason we lose
0:15 "right from the gecko here"
We couldn’t see his gecko 🦎 , i dont see the problem here?
People always wanna try and get poke damage when the rest of the team dead then we almost back and they get picked off 😂
I went from bronze 5 to diamond 5 on support and one thing that helped me on mercy was “blue beam is the default beam”. I automatically use blue , it’s my go to beam. I switch to heal WHEN NEEDED. I don’t heal people to full either which can be a hard habit to break but it helps your main healer build their ult.
rein is dominant because no one shoots tanks in metal ranks because they all have been yelled at for doing nothing but shoot the tank. Metal ranks take a small piece of general advice and then make it a fucking iron law they will never deviate from.
no it's more the opposite. they do nothing but shoot him. they will kill his shield, and chase while both support pump him full. they don't put any pressure on the support and dps so they can reign free which in turn allows rein to get closer while they have to fall back
@@group555_ hasn’t been my experience and if you go to the part in the video where the metal rank is posting- he highlights they try not to shoot the tank because they think that’s correct. Then he’s confused why Rein is just eating his team alive. It’s because he’s literally playing for free and no one shoots at him
I’m in silver and I’ve never really had a problem with enemy Rein’s. Maybe it’s because I know how bad he is in the meta so I know how easy he is to take down. Or maybe it’s because it’s the metal ranks so the Rein just charges in to 1v5 and instantly explodes.
Specifically he’s saying when a rein is “aggressive” (probably playing correctly)
Sure, some reins will just stand in front of their team with a shield up and they’re a joke. It’s the reins that don’t just shield their team - they play for free as the plat player says “he’s a wall to just get around to attack back line.”
Really just burn rein down. Can’t keep him up with DPS passive.
I disagree, he does well in low ranks because most low rank players like to just walk down main. when both teams are walking down main or stacking on cart rein is able to shield his whole team who aren't using cover, kill the whole enemy team easily with hammer firestrike and his ult. also he is less dependent on aim so for players with bad aim he will feel strong
not emongg not knowing what stg meant for all these years 😂 he's so precious
If you wanna win and sweat just play Soldier in low ranks. Hitscan and great ult for mispositioned low rank players.
why is a widow sombra trying to kill a tank, just go mei, reaper, sym, hanzo, bastion and they just fall over. you are better off going for the rest of the team
As a sombra player I would say its still situational.
In a sombra widow comp, there is nit alot of front line pressures and very low chip damage. So soon as I drop stealth and try to kill the ana the whole team turns around to peel cause nothing is up in thier face.
Sometimes the play is infact play sombra 76 and make sure you are applying the dps passive untill the enemy tank dies.
So my rebuttal becomes why swap heros when a playstyle change is all you need to do to continue to push. Make people work to get you to swap off your main. EMP is one of the most valuable ults, and we are not going to ask widow to swap.
@@demigurlxd5781 ya sombra works out on hacking tank and keeping up the dps passive, but Widow on a tank?
I love playing somb when a take is dominating… people underate sombra poke ability from high ground
Who else thinks he should make an entire series of best practices and how to play each hero? Lol. If he's looking for content then there you go
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'Not gonna go too deep into this' proceeds to go into it for over 5 minutes straight lmfao. What i see happen a lot with zarya's in lower rank is that people already charge her anyway but then don't want to push through them to actually kill her off and so there is just a walking christmas tree in frontline 24/7. I'd say trying not to charge her is oke but if you're already doing it or your team is doing it then you just need to push through, cut off the healers and burst her all the way. Can't let a person walk around with that much damage and health, it is a serious issue.
It was literally for like 10 seconds....so idk where the 5 minutes went 🤷♂️
23:45... hey that's MY question! Incidentally, I was Gold 2 when I wrote that, and last weekend I made it to Plat 1! (Not to brag...) Thanks so much giving SpaceClown some presence!
Even with autocorrect and spell checking, Redditors struggle to write in coherent sentences
Your explanation of Sigma being a Zone Defender clicked in my head and I can now play him effectively without worrying about if my positioning is wrong
It's funny how some answers you gave in this video were "your teammates want to play behind a shield" and "some people weren't playing OW1 because of all the shields they didn't like it"
I'm a solidly ranked plastic 2
I think the point was missed about the Winston part, they were saying bubbles would be put on other teammates so they wasn’t going for the Zarya. They were going for other teammates and we’re popping the bubbles that were being put on them so they could kill those teammates, i’m pretty sure they were not directly going for the Zarya.
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AstherialWomble, that's me! I made it to emongg video!
I love these kinds of videos. Your insights are really helpful!
There is so so much to learn to be good at the game, when you are new it can be overwhelming, especially when your current team is shouting to do different things.
Which hero does what against who, but only good on that map or that objective. Its daunting, and i think breaking it down like you do is invaluable, as most peoples advice is "go to the practice range" or "go to quick play"
But quite frankly the practice range is only good for learning your ability keybinds, and quickplay is 90% of the time you roll or you get rolled. No real ability to learn the situational requirements for heroes and their potential until you start grinding competitive experience.
I have never in my life been so early to a video. Let's gooo
From what I remember during my climb from silver to diamond (a long ass time ago) is that low ranks really struggle with the absolute most basic things, mainly in regards to hero counters and things like that. If the enemy team has a pharah, they will legitimately pick characters like Junkrat and reaper and then complain that pharah is unkillable. They think their characters should just win when thats not how it works.
Once you get to about the gold level people start to learn that, but they don't understand positioning. Tanks will try to hang back instead of initiating, the moira is fading into the enemy team instead of saving it for escapes, things like that.
Once you reach plat/diamond, people mostly know how to play the game now, it's just a matter of making stupid mistakes that cost you teamfights or a lack of communication. Or just a lack of more basic skills like good aim/reaction time.
All that being said however, diamond is the most miserable I ever was playing the game because that's when people take the game way too seriously. I dropped sr back to plat and was much happier there.
Part of the issues with tanks getting in to do damage is that Blizz keeps increasing the general mobility of the game. As Rein you just have to give up 60% of the time cause they jump up a wall or cross the whole fucking map in 1 cooldown. If Rein could chase(or just nerf mobility) then it may not feel so awful.
I love your videos! Always been intimidated of playing tank, but after watching so many of your videos one day I just decided to try Dva! I immediately started winning games with her and my win rate with her is insane ever since. I refuse to watch anyone else play Dva bc I don't want to taint the Dva knowledge I got from you haha at least until I get my Tank Placement.
To the point about Winston vs Zarya that begins around 11:00; I agree with the poster, it's 50/50. The reason being, if I pressure their backline or off angle, and my team just runs at the zarya, feeding charge and losing the 1v4, my value is gone. I either have to beat their team faster than my team feeds, or I have to come back, hope my team isn't too far gone, and hope that the enemy team doesnt take advantage of my lack of pressure.
The difference is negligible because tank relies way too heavily on their team to get value.
In a vacuum the value is there, but for the average player, it's negligible.
20:46 main tank (Rein/Winston) OW and a tank player (Prot Warrior) WoW here. So the difference is pvp vs PvE. Pve the tank has resources to gain threat and aggro on mobs that keeps them looking at you no matter what so it's not about doing damage but to keep the mob looking at you. People (or rather most people) aren't robots though so no matter how much you say look at me they will ignore you and go for your team. The way they ensure that people will look at you, i.e. threat, is to ensure you do respectable damage to them. That's why pvp tanks do just as much or maybe more dmg than dps.
Emogg: if you're in bronze and enjoy it then that's ok! have fun!
Flats: people in any rank but mine are dogshit, wow are they dumb????
Yeah, but flats pretty much only does that to people who claim "I should be in masters" or some dumb shit like that
duality
Tbf, when you say "OW1 bastion is unkillable/OP" as bronze players did, yeah... You're just dumb.
Nothing wrong with the rank itself, but lets not pretend a lot of bronze takes are awful. When Rein is the worst tank in the game and all it takes is mild CC and some form of decent ranged damage/shield busting damage to make him actually worthless, and that's "unstoppable"... That's just a lack of basic understanding of counters.
Flags does it to people who believe they should be in a higher rank
They both have valid points. If you're bad and okay with being bad, then go crazy and have fun. But if youre the problem and refuse to learn but want to climb out, you deserve to be called bad at the game.
for the moba question the right answr is duration in mobas youhave your ults every 1to 2 minute (i believelongest in league is ryze with 180 sec at lvl 6) and skirmishes or teamfights happen genneraly around objectives or some points in the game so you are almost sure by midgame to have your ult for most teamfights so you can use it, second reason is that a moba is mirrored way of playing so by killing the enemy team you gain something (gold exp neutral ojectives and constructions) in ow it's a run against the clock so you basically only need to hold a position and killing offers only about 20 sec of adventage it's more like a tense string of time wherheas there is no time limit in mobas so you can just pace the game yourself. in many ways it's more the mmorpg way of using cds like if you were playing in wow PVE best example is warrior tank where you use cds to avoid fatalities that would put your team at a disadventage or buffs at certains points
My understanding is that mercy is more about pocketing. Ofc you gotta heal your pocket and even tank if they need it, but the PRIORITY is boosting yeah? Im metal so. Lmk if im wrong
funny thing is whenever i play mercy i got like 70% dmg boost time at the end of the game and still only have like 500 dmg boosted, because the moment i start boosting someone they start missing every shot.
Also i main widow, and i've noticed the same thing for myself, where when i get boosted i feel under pressure and really can't hit the broadside of a barn from the inside. The moment the mercy leaves, instant potg.
Exactly it's why I always tell Mercy that I'm not a great aim and that while I appreciate it to feel free to go and boost others if it's better. I never ask for a pocket.
if you just duo with a mercy you'll get used to the dmg boost and not get nervous anymore.
@@lukasg4807 good advice for others maybe, but not for me, because:
1. that requires friends that play OW
2. When my friends still played OW noone ever wanted to play Mercy
3. i don't care about getting better enough to do that shit with randoms
@@Moehre040 make some friends bro. It will make the game a lot more fun.
@@lukasg4807 i have friends, just not friends that play OW. And i despise having to talk to people who arent already my friends so thats a big fat no.
"shoot the rein shield" someone make this a banner when loading into comp games. My team will NOT shoot the shield.
Anyone else thinks emongg looks like the dnd guy from offbeat outlaws? Not as much now but before when offbeat had a more similar haircut
Tanks just shouldn't be able to heal themselves.
these reddit videos are neat the cocomelon music is slightly loud tho
As a plat console player that’s going to move to pc, what are the major differences i am going to have to adapt to besides aiming?
everyone has a higher aim sensory. You will flank around a corner and they will INSTANTLY turn. No more slight delay in reaction with accuracy.
wow is world of warships, trust
Light mode, errr,, brother..errrrr
tanks do a lot of damage cause they can't aggro like in a pve setup so to make people shoot them they have to be a threat to reckon with but they have less edadly or self preservation abilities as wher a dps can just either outdamage people or evade easily so the sacrifce a tank makes is the speed or the utility except if you're ball.
14:15 i just aspire to be avarage, as i feel like i can do better than what i am, but i am aware of my limitations. Im hoping to hit gold again eventually
Best Sigma guide ever!❤️👏
On the subject of tanks sacrificing damage for survivability in most games. Using WoW as an example there was, when I played, a vast difference between the build and damage output of a prot paladin built for pvp vs for pve. It's all about creating, and executing kill windows while realizing, and denying enemy kill windows as a pvp tank, in my opinion. Overwatch is no different, just faster than most. Taunt abilities don't work against real people (excluding match chat) so you have to generate your threat by being one.
With the Winston Zarya post I feel the problem is it doesn’t feel like the Winston is creating value even though he is
It should also be noted that pharah is harder for console players to kill, since they're on controller.
Lower ranks think rein is op because they only sit in main and spam straight at him. Take an off angle to shoot rein in the side while he is shielding main and he falls over
emongg dont be telling these bronze players mercy isnt about damage boosting a dps. that's 90 percent of her value and a free ticket to diamond at least if you just fucking do it.
Ana is the answer to both hog and pharah lol
What I dont like about Rein is that it feela like your team want you to play like an afk wall....... I preffer more mobile tanks that feel impactful
Rein is good for the same reason ganondorf is good against new smash players
Of all the tanks, rein is the best for punishing stupidity.
Bro I can distract 4 people and hog will still push 100m. Best I can do is try to shield hook and also live on point. If I don't have an ana tho I'm just like. hecked.
I got no idea what to do on tank bro
Bronze mercy thinking they’re good lol
nah some people do actually care about their rank too much
I’m like gold 3 at best. Rein is horrible, idk what these people are on about. I haven’t seen anyone pop off on him since like OW1
Honestly hot take here:
When Emongg says “it’s about a balance” that gives you the impression you should be doing both equally. It’s not a balance. Widespread, across all your games I’d say 65:35. It’s situational, like in Mercy + Zen you definitely wanna do that damage boost but less. OG mercy LW, etc. also I hate to say it but it’s very map based as well as comp based. Ashe on circuit royale? Blue blue blue blue. Even now with the Hanzo net nerf Hanzo on Rialto, blue blue blue blue. The focus *should* be blue beaming imo
? 7:29 people can’t be this slow. Just say damage boost more why is that hard for you lol.
one issue that i think doesn’t get talked about is balancing between console and pc. The only change in overwatch 1 between pc and console was torb turrets lock on time bc console can’t react fast enough since it’s mouse and keyboard. However, with ball being buffed and probably being buffed again soon, it becomes impossible for controller to keep track of characters like this and sombra. Maybe seperate patches between console and pc should come back
"Why is Rein dominant?"
Because idiots can't land hits and coordinate to break a shield that barely stands up to anything. Practice aim.
The few times I played Mercy as a bronze support, we stomped every teamfight because I fucking used damage boost and the other Mercy didn't. They always asked what I did. I said "Use mercy's whole kit."
Do what feels fun, i like making new accounts and doing u2gm over and over on various heroes, its become my favorite way to play. Once i aquired a bronze account, just to spectate what happened in those lobbies, actually hilarious, and an easy rank to maintain as at that level i can just sort of choose whether to win or not
bruh you take way to long on each topic lmao. you just say the same thing over and over and over in 10 different ways
let him yap
overwatch content is absolute garbage