Baldur's Gate 3 vs. Pathfinder vs. Solasta (CRPGs of 2021)
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CRPGs of 2021 - Baldur's Gate 3 / Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous / Solasta: Crown of the Magister
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GAMES: Baldur's Gate 3 / Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous / Solasta: Crown of the Magister
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0:00 Intro
2:14 Solasta
6:34 Pathfinder
12:04 BG3
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Great comparison. I love all of them. They are all in my favourite list. For playing time, WOTR is much ahead as it looks much more finished content wise. In my personal opinion WOTR and solasta will satisfy newcomers and veterans both. BG3 will mostly for newcomers. It can attract new players to CPRG fun. Multitude of options, diversity and strict rule set of WOTR can be hard to understand and manage for new players.
Wonderful. 3 wonderful CRPGS in one year. It's gonna be a wonderful year being an introvert.
if you want tough fight go pvp ranked games. ai can only cheat against a human not compete. bruh.
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At age 55, I’m running into the very real possibility that I have too much video gaming and not enough lifespan to fit it all in before I die...lolz...
At 53 I concur.
A serious problem indeed xD
None of us will fit everything in, but I hope the time is packed with fun and adventures! :)
I am 62, started playing the gold box series in the 1980's I feel your pain. I will get them all God willing, I prefer turn-based games my dexterity sucks.
As a youth of 52....I feel your pain, bro
The rise of the crpgs. Its gonna be a great year for rpgs
indeed Joey... indeed
none of the games will come out in 2021 tho
@@kristofferv maybe not baldurs gate or pathfinder but I thought solasta was going to, unless I was wayy off.
@@joeygonzalez4970 oh yeah maybe it will! :D
@@kristofferv but pathfinder will be out this june though?
I feel Pathfinder easily suplemented the spot that was held by Baldur's Gate up until recently, as being the quintessential CRPG experience. With WotR they may get the same legendary status Baldur's Gate II got in the past. Owlcat is really doing a great work to rival the old Bioware.
What is WhotR?
@@Userfriendly116 wrath of the righteous
Havent fininshed kingmaker yet, but it's absurdly good. If they made WotR even better, the game must be legendary. Just like Baldurs gate 1 into 2
@@Dremons7 wotr is better overall except they over compensated abit in the difficulty settings cus of all the crazy builds some minmaxers made for kingmaker and they have done a good job of smoothing out some of the system issues and the kingdom managment issues from kingmaker overall its alot better and released with a couple less bugs from my experiance and iv been playing wotr since before it came out
@@GD2X I didn't have a lot of experience with crpgs coming into pathfinder and i didnt understand a lot of the options i had. So i just picked what i thought looked cool, played on a low difficulty and had a good time. More people should try that instead of throwing their hands up and complaining that a system is complex.
Pathfinder gets my approval. The first game was very good. And now since they are adding even more class options its only better.
Awesome
i never played DnD growing up, but i enjoy high fantasy literature a lot so when i got kingmaker on my humblebundle monthly i was thrilled to give it a go, the game does a piss poor job of teaching new players an even superficial explanation of whats what, i love TBS and RTS games, hundreds of hours on xcom and command and conquer and many strategy games, i love RPGs to the point i have platinum on every fallout and skyrim too, so its not like i dont like this types of games, but i couldn't get into pathfinder, even the level up system is overly complicated and poorly explained, the games gives you an option to auto upgrade everything but whats the point of playing an rpg that way? I'm never touching another pathfinder unless i get it for free and it made me think the DnD genre is not for me, but I'm giving BG a go once is out of early access as a last try
@@iutarogirotto5110 BG3 is still in early access. I recommend BG 2 Shadows of Amn enhanced edition (its for modern pc). It's one of the best rpg ever made.
@@iutarogirotto5110 pathfinder is so rewarding though once you learn the system. I agree the tutorial isn't the greatest. But the games definitely worth the investment doing the research and learning, theres a LOT of customization and roll playing in the game
@@tylerdurden7965 i really tried, I love wasteland, XCOM and such games, the roleplaying is really good in pathfinder but the combat is just a chore, specially in turn based mode, the game does a piss poor job of telling you what each skill does and everything was so slow, not for me, I'm 30, I don't have 20 hours to sink into a game to "learn to enjoy it" if after an hour I'm not having fun I drop it a move on to the next thing, there's way too many games to play to waste time in something that doesn't click at all with you
I want to play all of them sooo badly... at the same time, I feel like early access would ruin the full games for me. The temptation is strong, but I must resist :)
Bg3 i completly agree as you have to start all over every new patch. Solasta so far i could continue my playthrough and it was very addicting. :) i just reached the end of the current contetn and my party just turned level 6. See my comment below for a short summary if you care.
@@CaitSith87 that's great to hear. I may consider the early access for Solasta... about BG3, on the other hand, limiting to act 1 is pure pain for me (I immerse myself too much in these stories!), so I'm going to wait for full release.
@@neptunegamesrpg and to be honest the beginning of bg3 is pretty boring so i dont know if i want to play it more then two times (resp. Every patch) and so i will wait for release.
@@CaitSith87 if it's like DOS2, it will explode with chapter 2
@@neptunegamesrpg the problem is the dnd rules are limiting larians creativity. The gameplay is aweful and they only introduced a tiny amount of spells. I was really looking forward to but know i wished they followed the rules even more loosly...
Don't really need this video ... I'm gonna play them all anyway :D
Ah, a kindred spirit
agreed
I already have early access on 2 of them so agreed. I still like the video :D
Hell yeah
That's the spirit!
I've been loving my playthrough of Solasta. Everything I know from 5e transitions over to it.
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Another great Video Wolf. Enjoying watching your channel grow
An extremely intelligent, knowledgeable and fair review. I was very impressed. Thank you for making it.
Played all 3 already - they are amazing, different and i can't wait until they all out
I joined the kickstarter for Solasta and I am excited to see what they are brining and how they are progressing. I've seen two other Pathfinder WotR, but your first one was more informative as we were discovering the rule set and how to play along with you. Your BG3 content is the best.
Thanks again for becoming a member John! That's great that you joined the kickstarter. Tactical Adventures seemingly deserves the support.
@@WolfheartFPS I am excited for all three games. I loved rediscovering BG 1 and 2 as well as Neverwinter Nights when the Enhanced Editions came out. These types of games, as well as Diablo, Path of Exiles and Civilization series are my go to games. I'm recently re-enjoying "Hellgate: London". Die, demonspawn, die!!
So many good-looking games in the works. Your content is making me want to get the BG3 beta.
Low quality graphics usually allow for more expanded stories because the player dont expect grandious representation of the events.
I wouldn't call them low quality. Because they can be very beautiful. I'd say simpler or less complex.
Spot on about how a slightly lower graphic's quality can actually engage the player more, as (I think) it allows and requires them to invest their own imagination into it, filling in those details. Similar to how a well written book draws the reader in as they mentally craft the narrative.
The original Baldur's Gate is a testament to that.
A lot of people miss out on that point! A game can only do so much to immerse the player. It is up to each player to create the world and the feeling that each game is going to have. Depending on your mental investment, It may be so different describing the gameplay and story, that it will sound like 2 seperate ones. That is the sign of a good game.
Borderlands
Absolutely right. When we read a book, we read descriptions but we imagine the surroundings ourselves and get immersed in that setting.
FAX OMG!!!!
I'll play all of them, but Wrath is the one I look forward to the most. The Pathfinder system is just so much deeper and you have such a wide variety of classes and playstyles.
Bg3 gonna be way better....if it's like divinity, it's on
@@duwax I think it's stupid to compare them as better or worse. For me, Wrath was a solid 9/10 game, I think BG3 will be a solid 9/10. But they are strong in different aspects. But if you want to be narrowminded, go ahead :)
I cant wait for Wrath of the Righteous to come out! Fell in Love with Kingmaker and still havent beaten it. Too many characters and classes I want to try.
I had the same issue. I got around it with the respec mod before it was in the game.
I'm currently in the beta for Wrath and a cool thing you can do is create your own "NPC" companions. This allows you to have any number of characters/classes you want to play at the same time. I've restarted more times than I'd like to admit to just to create 6+ more characters and try out the different classes. I put "NPC" in quotes because they advance and function just like your main character, so it's sort of like you have many mains IMHO.
@@8654ZuluFoxtrot so, mercenaries? You can hire custom mercenaries in Kingmaker (and pretty much every other crpg) too if that's what you're talking about. Thing with hiring mercenaries is, while you can customize them to your liking, possibly making your party much stronger, you miss out on the ingame companions' quests in return.
@@Dion__G You actually don't miss out on the companion quests. The ingame companions are still available for you to swap out your custom mercenaries and simply do the companion quest and swap back to your mercs when done. It's a very good system they have in place currently.
@@8654ZuluFoxtrot you're 100% right. I meant to say the interactions between the companions while you're out adventuring or camping, idk why I said quests lol. But I suppose you still get the dialogues if you have 2-3 companions in your party, just not as many diff ones.
Hahaha that BG "might make some people mad" part had me cracking up. Great job on the video!
Thanks!
All 3 seem solid. I don't mind anyone not playing the previous titles as those are on another level from what we know so far. I can pretend BG3 is "forgotten realms 5e: the game" and like it more
@@bulanet271
I honestly don't think of it as a sequel, because it's not. It's "Baldur's Gate 3" because of the geography/setting alone... (and marketing)
I generally have a fondness for lower budget titles like Solasta. It's makes things more risky obviously but at the same time in the right hands I'd argue a limited budget can be a greater boon than having the money to do whatever you want. Limitation forces innovation and creativity. It pushes the devs to not only carefully curate and edit their work to make it as tight and effective as possible within the limited scope of what they can afford and accomplish but also forces them to be creative when figuring out how to handle things. Like figureing out how to tell their story without relying on fancy cutscenes, big name graphics, or big budget actors and therefore focus more on making sure the pieces they have and can afford really pop and get as much bang for the buck that they have as they can sometimes leading to interesting art styles, unique story telling, and more of a focus on really making the main cores that they have shine to make up for what they can't include. Meanwhile a larger budget can lead to a risk of complacency where the devs feel too comfortable in believing they can pull off everything and end up biting off more than they can chew or just try to throw everything in because they can afford to and end up with a jack of all trades master of none type scenario or worse a game that can't come together because of the pile of nonsense on top of it. Again sure the situation can flip in both situations. A huge budget can lead to an amazing game and a small budget can dwindle away leaving the project unfinished but honestly I'm happy to take a shot on the group striving to overcome despite their limitations than the one who think they can do everything.
2:43 that "medecine" skill is lit
Great video, thank you! p.s. It's "homed in" on as in "homing" missile or "homing" pigeon, etc. To "hone" is to sharpen, as in "honing" your skills, etc. I wouldn't have bothered to mention this but since you are a professional content creator... Anyway, awesome videos as always, thanks for your work!!
Hey thanks a lot! Will correct this in the future. I appreciate it.
I am really looking forward to how Owlcat will adapt the original Adventure Path. In Kingmaker I was really surprised how they actually put so many new elements in it. Hope that in Wrath of the Righteous they will augment the original story as well.
I absolutely love this type of content. Its been a "drought" for me in the "new and exciting games" department. Though i already knew about pathfinder (from you) and baldurs gate, it's always nice to see direct side by side comparisons. Now I just need my favourite games to hurry up and RELEASE. (i.e. Mount and Blade, BG3, Pathfinder, etc. )
well Bannerlord is ok and playable at ~Warband level already. Just some minor bugs, usually not spoiling the experience.
@@hirdbarding3399 ya, i mean just full development including full modding tools.
thanks for watching!
Grew up with D&D, BG1&2, but have been enjoying the Pathfinder rpg for three years now. 😊 Kingmaker was awesome, and I can't wait to play Wrath! (As well as the other two games here!) 😁
Definitely think once baldur’s gate 3 leaves early access and gets more time put into it. It’ll easily surpass them Larian Studios are an over-all great company and not disappointing like cdpr
@@hostileenvironment6107 Disagree. I loathe Larian games for a plethora of reasons, be it subjective or objective. That wouldn't matter had they not usurped the Baldur's Gate franchise. BG3 will be to BG what Fallout 3 was to Fallout 1 and 2, which is blatantly obvious to people that played the classics.
@@megamastah Ok, you might be right in some aspects I wouldn’t doubt they’ve casualized and dumbed down I’m some areas. “but I totally get your point though” with the fallout 1-2 to 3. Hopefully once it’s finally left early access most of the issues will be resolved. Fallout 1 and 2 were so unique that I think if you played like a 1 intel character your character literally talks caveman or something xD! New vegas devs breathed new life into the 3D version of Fallout
@@hostileenvironment6107 Luck be a lady. Cheers!
@@hostileenvironment6107 but when you try to use the word "casualised" in the context of games created with DD5e in contrast to games created using DD3.5e .. and then nitpick that one of those game using dd5e is more casual than the other using dd5e .. it sorts of make it out to be a joke.
dd5e is such a incomplete and dumb down piece of %##$ from WoTC ... I for one am glad that larian is making the adaptation for they will know enough to throw out the nonsensical part, especially when it comes to CRPG. and keep those that can actually work.
I've played all of these in their early form and have enjoyed them. It is really amazing to have all three out at once. Currently playing Wrath of the Righteous and have immensely enjoyed just making new type of characters and doing just the first chapter. I have about 20 something characters so far this way, I guess I'll try the rest of the story at some point.
7:25 Yeah I lol'd. I spent like 30 hours in character creation in Pathfinder LOL
Totally, I did more of the endless dungeon thing than the main campaign so I could try different builds.
I spent like 6 hours in the mansion testing out different classes :D
I can't imagine how many hours i'm gonna lose thanks to all new subclasses and classes in the sequel.
This is pretty cliche, but I'm gonna say it anyway: in Pathfinder, as in most things in life, hard work pays off. True, it's based on a MUCH more complicated tabletop RPG than BG3 and Solasta (Pathfinder, or D&D 3.5, vs. D&D 5e) -- but if you invest the time in learning it and understanding it, it pays off sooooooo much. You can reach incredible levels of depths, you can replay the game dozens of times, each time with a different party that plays completely differently than your last one, you can really find incredible combinations of feats and abilities... It's by far the hardest to master and the one with the steepest learning curve of the three, but in my eyes it's also far more rewarding.
I would love to play it because of the huge variety of classes but I really don't like real time with pause and the turn based combat seems a little clunky. I think I'll wait till it is released and then I'm gonna decide
@@PippoFrancoPippo Meanwhile you can play Kingmaker 😉
maybe i have to give it another chance, playing solasta now an i love it, love all the old school Icewind, Baldurs. but Pathfinder didnt hook me
@@leanest3829 Kingmaker and Wrath are better spiritual successors to the baldur's gate series than bg3.
Eh, doesnt seem worth it to waste so much time on learning Just for some stressful depth.
Especially if the Gameplay alone wasnt always the best in this Franchise
Owlcat ist realy new studio, almost all they core members are from Nival which created Heros 5 and a lot of other cool games
Mega excited for them all!
Excited for all 3 and life is good! They're also all probably coming out at very different times. So why not do all 3
Damn Solasta looks good. It's cool that ther crpg genre is getting competitive. They'll all have to bring their A game.
I wish these had been staggered some, gonna play all 3.
You could say they kind of are with pathfinder being the most done and BG3 basically being a demo.
I don't understand why your channel is not yet the premier crpg site. This was a professional level compare and contrast video.
thanks a lot spheise
I will play all 3!!!! Cant wait!!!
hell yeah!
I will probably buy all three but I'm the most excited about Pathfinder. It seems to be the most like BG1 or BG2 and those games are my all time favorite.
Magnifico video , mejor explicado no podía ser , en caso Solasta al principio no me gustaba , pero al probar otros juegos te das cuenta lo divertido son los diálogos lo mejor de todo que todos los personajes interactúan, no solo uno, algo que me habría encantado en BG3, Cuando desarrollen mas opciones físicas el solasta como caras y peinados va lograr ser un gran juego , Pathfinder , seguramente va ser fantástico gracias sus secuelas , la gran posibilidad desarrollar tu clase , es algo destaca mas que nada , y la variedad de razas, BG3 enamora mucho sus escenas cinematográficas , buena historia, hermoso character creation igual se nota le falta trabajo para explotarlo , como mas opciones de estética para los personajes , o tener posibilidad editar los origins o contratar aventureros , en gráficos de combate definitivamente al jugarlo sientes el gran trabajo , que ha trabajado Larian con la parte rendimiento y gráficos , yo juego en media parece jugara en ultra xcom 2 , poder ver fluido las habilidades o las hermosas escenas de críticos , es algo magnifico , las miles de maneras que podes resolver un combate. Los 3 juegos serán buenas joyas que se estaban esperando.
Got all three and I am so excited to play all three. All have very different worlds to delve into. CRPG's are on a roll.
In which of them the stone architecture is the better?
I like your style of review. You earned a subscriber. I am impressed. Thank you and please keep up the good work!
Frankly I can't wait to kick evil's but for great justice with a giant miniature space hamster.. go for the eyes!
It's BG3 in name only really, as far as I can tell none of the characters/companions from the original games are in it at all.
Ooohhh I didn't realise Wrath of the Righteous was so far along in development, I should really go finish my Lawful Evil Kingmaker playthrough.
Hell yeah!
I certainly plan to check out that browser. Thanks for the info and the video.
Great review of the games. I've been playing BG3 & Solasta. Of the two I enjoy Solasta more.
Baldur's Gate 3 is one of my top 5 favorite games. Just an incredible experience so far, I'm really excited for its launch.
Thank you, solid review.
That was such a damn good review/comparison that I sub'd. Bravo dude...frickin bravo...might just buy all 3 lol
They all seem like they are gonna be great! Thanks 🙏
Oh, a new Pathfinder Game is coming?!?! That is such awesome news. Only just got into Kingmaker, so this is brilliant news!
Just discovered pathfinder kingmaker.
Never have i experienced a game that so fully brought me back to days long gone where i played baldurs gate on my Pentium 90 machine.
Pathfinder is an instant Classic for me just as baldurs gate was.
Its the menus, feel of the game and world that does it for me i think.
Likely will play all three. Waiting for actual release though, I want the full experience. CRPGs are alive and well!
God damn! Been drooling over BG3 for some time now. Loving Solasta and Pathfinder too. I kinda want all 3 🤯
Wrath of the Righteous I'd so fucking good so far. Such a robust game.
When Pathfinder is more BG3 than BG3.
*cries in space giant hamster's language*
It is pathfinder not DND... So you are wrong ...
@@NickStrife cope
@@graysaltine6035 Go say that to a mirror.....
@@NickStrife cope
Good on you for making sure the little guy gets more exposure.
These all look good, so far my computer can't handle Baldur's Gate, but can't wait for Wrath of the Righteous. Didn't hear of Solasta before you played it but it is next on my wishlist now, can't wait. The browser looks pretty cool too I'll try it out.
For me, the fact that Baldur's Gate 3 can be played in co-op is the one thing that makes all the difference. After playing Divinity 2 and then the first one in local co-op with my GF, I'm constantly yearning for more experiences like that. I truly love Larian for realizing how enjoyable big RPGs can be with someone else and yhat they want to push that style of play. Wish more would add this feature, and not in RPGs alone but gaming in general.
The second local co-op is added to the BG3 EA we'll be jumping right in!
Weird, coop in div2 felt just awful. Draged out, annoying and restricted, while in solo you are free
Got all 3, all are great. But Wrath if the righteous was my first kickstarter.
Another great vid!
Thanks Peter!
This will actually be an interesting video to watch.
What I like about Wrath of the Righteous is that it contains a lot of advanced classes (classes with unusual mechanics) right out of the gate, like Magus (melee mage), Inquisitor (summoner/warlord), Cavalier (mounted tank), Alchemist (thief/spellcaster with bombs and self buff), etc... Baldur's Gate 3 classes are quite basic and just the usual ones from standard 5e.
Well, compared to Pathfinder, 5e is just all-round so much simpler, even the CRPGS, which don't even have all of the classes from the ttrpg yet, already has more complexity than ttrpg 5e in its entirety, and the power ceiling in 5e is so much lower than in Pathfinder - My fav point of comparison was a comment from a D&D streamer called Arcadum "In Pathfinder, you can destroy the entire world with 6 bards and 1 barbarian at lv 1, you can't do that in 5e".
There is one more if u interested. Black Geyser: Couriers of Darkness
thanks!
Hyped!
Incredible review of all three games! You have found your calling. :)
Thanks!!
Story is everything. I like how the Pathfinder looks like.
Obsidian with Pillars of eternity and larian with Divinity Original sin, are largely responsible for the resurrection of this type of games
Two great companies. The future is bright.
I haven't played BG3 or P:WotR yet but I have played Solasta and I agree with the dialogue being neat as instead of just one person talking the entire party talks based on a voice you choose and the enchantment is quite different but cool
This is exactly what I Googled for to make a decision on if I should get Solasta or not. Totally getting it! I love the 'blocks' strategy movement of XCOM and I see Solasta has that as well. Also worth supporting an Indie.
I'm just glad that we are getting 3 "at least" solid quality RPG's in upcoming 2 years. Gotta say that I see zero reason to compare them.
They are all party based isometric RPGs based off D&D rulesets or their derivatives. Its entirely reasonable to compare them. Its hardly like comparing Tetris to Mario Kart to Doom.
Beside we will see how the next crpg will evolve with virtuality
I cant wait for pathfinder and for bg3 to be released though i do hope that rest of the base races get added to bg3 since its based off of 5e
Bg3 is gonna be great fully released, can’t wait to play on 31 inch monitor with friends in the future! Huge fan of baldur’s gate series.
Dang Wolf, you did something no one else could, you sold me something in an advertisement.
😁😭👍
By any chance, does anyone know the music that starts around 13:30? Been searching for it a while ago but failed.
I like the visual style of Solasta. Baldur's Gate 3 is gorgeous but it's a lot of visual clutter sometimes that makes it hard to actually play the game.
At its core, Solasta is the best dungeons and dragons example for a game ever made.
thanks for the review
I love realtime with pause battles!
yep....so sad that BG3 was ruined like that...i loved BG1 n 2 and the ice wind dale 1 n 2......wtf were they thinking with bg3 ?
They are so much epic, people that say is less strategic really didn't try to learn it, imo.
My favorite so far is Pathfinder wrath of the righteous, but i will definetly play the 3 (bought them all).
Just added Pathfinder to my steam wishlist. Currently playing Solasta and BG3. I am enjoying Solasta a lot more than I thought I would.
Awesome. It's a great game. I hope it gets the attention it deserves,
Great upload! I know I will be buying and playing all of these games anyway but its wrath of the righteous I am easily most excited for. Playing kingmaker I absolutely loved all the character building and customization with abilities and all the difficulty settings etc, Game was amazing. I could do without the kingdom management side of things though which I hear is removed from wrath anyway :)
loved the early acces , i hope to see game full next year
Probably playing all of them lol, my favorite so far is Pathfinder, it's the best mechanically.
Its funny because out of the 3 I think BG3 is the worst in gameplay by a big margin, while it has the most interesting characters and story.
Solasta is also surprisingly solid, and some of the lines of dialogue are really funny.
Overall, us cRPG fans are eating this year!
damn straight. its gonna be a good year
Bg3 looks the best in every way and will probably sell the most/win most awards and get the most dlc. I want solasta and pathfinder to do well but I’m worried about company money/support behind them
@@davrosdavros7198 oh ofc.. its definitely got the highest production values by far and larian makes good stories.
My issue with bg3's gameplay is that combat is honestly kinda meh. Only boss fights are fun. The reason for that, IMO, is that larian has put the focus on environmental interactivity, but the combat itself is poorly paced and not very impactful. I'm sure it will improve but for now, both solasta and pathfinder are more fun in combat, and like it or not, combat is a giant aspect of these games.
I hope it’s a competitive situation and all 3 are really good
@@Morden97 I havnt played it but this is what I've heard. And it's a bummer. Now tbf I love most crpgs in spite of their combat. Bg2 and especially throne of bhaals combat sucked ass. But still, I'd rather have good and fun combat instead of slow and boring stuff. I also really hate their need to shoehorn environmental effects ito DnD.
Playing all 3! Why limit yourself?
Some people don't have the money dude.
@@prometheus9096 just being hyperbolic. My point is, they are all great in their own right.
There's only 24 hours in a day, Perhaps limiting yourself when wasting precious time to games is wise. Just saying. The time you lose playing these game is something you will NEVER get back, it's better to make sure that the investment is worth it. Besides BG3, I don't think these are worth it.
@@khatack different strokes. They arnt all on the same release schedule. I have around 50 hours in bg, 20 ish hours in solasta and 30 ish in pathfinder... none of that overlapped, and they arnt launching at the same time into full release. 🤷
@@reptiliancow they don't overlap but they do add up.
You had me at real time with paise. Been looking for a game to fill that DAO gap
The learning curve for Kingmaker is very steep; I am still trying to get into it.
The living legend! I don't know what your style of playing is but in Kingmaker, the harder the difficulty, the more you learn(and take advantage) of the game mechanics.
Yeah, it's the sort of game where you want to stack 6-9 buffs on your party before a major encounter. The sheer variety of feats and their integration into every class can seem overwhelming at first. Some folks swear by that complexity and find themselves 'bored' with simpler games. One downside, inventory weight and encumbrance will be a constant juggle: on larger maps you can dump a pile of good near a map exit to get on your way out.
Three reasons my fiancé might stab me before the wedding next year, all rolled into a 17 minute video.
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Great video! I played some Solasta when they had a demo out, I think. It was really a lot of fun; waiting for release to buy though. I did buy BG3 and played enough to know it's great; waiting for 1.0 to play more. The trouble with complex games like Pathfinder is that you can so easily make really bad builds and have to start over; very frustrating.
Thanks & and yes I understand.
What’s the music you used for the Pathfinder review? I recognized it as the sad theme from the Epic NPC Man series.
Unfortunately I deleted the files to this video so I cannot go back and check.
@@WolfheartFPS Thats okay, thanks for replying!
It is really good year for RPG fans. My all time favorite Renewed Mass effect will also be coming. There are under-development games like WOTR, BG 3, SOLASTA, ENCASED, and little gem from Maverick Games -- Stellar Tactics which will entice veterans and new comers alike.
Stellar Tactics is amazing, I’m looking forward to the new update and about Encased I’m still waiting for the full release, because from what I’ve been told the story is very short so far.
5e combat in Solasta is way better than in BG3, if you are a D&D purist. Sadly the story is not as good. But I have enjoyed a lot the combat and wish BG combat was more like the 5e like Solasta is
Can you tell me the biggest difference between 5e combat and BG3 combat? I have played 5e just a few times so apart from the disengage action I can't see the difference
@@PippoFrancoPippo well , there are some, for example, in 5e you can ready actions , thats not implemented in BG3 , but it is in Solasta. Some spells work different in BG3 as well, I mean, BG3 is similar to 5e but Solasta is more faithful to the actual rules
@@PippoFrancoPippo BG3 has way too many ways to get advantage, a bunch of random minor changes to spells that don't really improve anything at all, and pretty poorly balanced magic gear that hurts its combat a lot.
I really like Opera GX I'll definitely have to check it out thanks for the video :)
it's nice! Thanks Carli
From everything I have seen, I am most sold on Pathfinder WotR, it just looks like the game that appeals to me the most, but all the games look amazing, definitely gonna keep Solasta in mind!
I love rpgs but played solasta and glad i got a refund its terrible stuck to BG3 and pathfinder
what a time to be alive!
So hyped for Pathfinder. The first one was pretty broken on release but fucking phenomenal when patched up. Hopefully the sequel arrives in a less sorry state. As for BG 3 and Solasta... meh.
Please don't sleep on Solasta. It's on gamepass now and it surprised me how much fun it was
Lots to go in Baldur's Gate 3's development, like real time with pause is desperately needed :-P It's a shame they went turn based firstly as pathfinder proves how much easier it is to go from real time to turn based than vice versa
I want to play all three! Baldur's gate is my number 1 choice but I'd love to play them all! I am still wanting to get BG3 now but I usually wait for the full game release! I want to experience the whole game! But as you know Wolf, I love your vids & I live BG3 through them! Great Vid as always Wolf! Keep up the great work Bro! ;)
Thanks yea I understand!
Solasta coming to the games pass for pc is huge, I hope they make more content and definitely more classes I enjoy it a lot
it's a great game!
Didn't know about Solasta until this video. Definitely going to check that out while I continue rolling through BG3
Awesome. Great to play both BG3 and Solasta.
Having played BG3, Solasta, and the first Pathfinder, I can attest to the fact that there's not a bad apple in the bunch. I have a love/hate affair with my favorite of the three - Baldur's Gate 3, in that it's more a spiritual successor to the Divinity: Original Sin series than the Baldur's Gate series. As that series still remains one of my favorites of all time, this was a hard pill to swallow. Not that the Divinity series is bad, it's not, it's fantastic - but I'd have preferred more of a Baldur's Gate 'feel' than a Divinity 'feel'. What I appreciate most so far is the cinematic approach, and the stellar graphics. Sorry, having been around since Pong, I appreciate cutting-edge graphics when they're available. I know the argument: good gameplay is more important than good graphics. My rebuttal is that a AAA game should have both. Baldur's Gate 3 does. This also already feels like the biggest of the three games, in the most open world, and that really appeals to me, too.
Pathfinder: Kingmaker is good, very detailed, and fun to learn the new rules and lore while playing. The character creation process alone is both daunting and fascinating. The game can be difficult though. I'm literally still stuck in a battle that I simply can't progress past. After reading through forums and whatnot, it seems my only option would be to re-roll characters and come back through the game, because I don't have any of the skills/magic it would require to beat these creatures. As a result, I set the game down and haven't picked it up in a while, so I think they dropped the ball here.
And finally, Solasta - I just picked it up recently and found the character creation probably the most user-friendly and intuitive. It also feels the most D&D-legit of the three games, even though there are a lot of missing features. What's nice is that during character creation, the UI is very keen to telling you when a particular skill, language, etc. is NOT being used in game so far, so you don't accidentally spend all your points on things you'll never be able to use. Would suck to make a decision in the beginning that would halt my progress later down the road in the game (cough: looking at you, Pathfinder).
Solasta, with the smallest budget and team, can really hold its own against those other two games, which is remarkable and commendable, and in some cases, Solasta even does things better than the other two games. Character face models are NOT one of those things! But character background having an effect on what the character says and how they behave is really, really cool - better than the other two. I like how you don't have one set hero around which everyone else orbits. In this case, all four of your characters are your 'central character', and I love how they play off each other.
Three great games. Personally I'd suggest grabbing Pathfinder:Kingmaker and Solasta now, as they're complete. The next Pathfinder and Baldur's Gate are in development still. I only got so far in Baldur's Gate 3 before I knew I'd want to put it down and wait until the full release before continuing. I'd just rather it be a polished, done project.
Anyway, great time to be alive if you're a top-down, isometric D&D CRPG enthusiast. And don't forget to grab Wasteland 3 and Disco Elysium, two more incredible games in the top down/iso CRPG genre.
Wolf - this is an amazing video. So well done and a super overview all these games. Thanks for this
Thanks Don!!
Pathfinder is set to release in September, thought I update since he mention this June.
300 hours in the beta of BG3 , you my friend are simply INSANE! I mean , i need to ask if you are preparing to do a literal blind run of the first act.
Lol 😂
I'm actually playing Solasta, while the game isn't nearly as pretty as most TwRiPLE A games, it is actually pretty fun, especially since I'm trying to learn about how DnD style RPHs works.
Taking a break from Baldurs Gate 3 to finish my old Kingmaker file. Excited to hear about a new Pathfinder! Certainly did spend about half a day creating a character.. lol.
Good to be living in a time when so many great games are available! Competition can only bring great things to players!
yes yes & yes