Why I chose to be a Naturopathic Doctor and NOT a Medical Doctor
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- čas přidán 3. 11. 2022
- Many people wonder why I chose a profession that makes less money and has less status, yet still takes 4 years of school and thousands of dollars of tuition. At first I wanted to become a MD, but after shadowing many practitioners, I discovered it is not for me. In this video I share one of the reasons why I chose not to become a MD, and later on decided to become a ND.
I hope that my video can help you decide what path you want to take if you are having a hard time deciding between the naturopathic and conventional medical field.
Please know this video and future videos are NOT intended to throw shade at medical doctors. I value medical doctors and their role in society. They do very important work. Their lifestyle just didn't fit me, just like how I am not meant to be a carpenter, a police officer, a chef, etc. There are so many different roles one can take in the healthcare field. I have chosen the Naturopathic role because it is the one that best fits my values and desired lifestyle.
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I want to find the cause and heal it rather than just treat symptoms!
I absolutely agree with you.
I always get annoyed when MDs tell me try to summarise and I like to take my time telling the details of my story, because I believe every detail can lead the doctor to unpuzzle the riddle of my illness.
Well done keep up what you're doing, Sarah!
MD's dont tell you to summarize, they ask for essential information to create a differential. 90% of the time little details of your story are insignificant. The people who went to school for 7-9 years to study and learn know this because that's what they dedicate their lives to.
A good healer has a wide variety of tools for healing...🎉🎉
I love and miss your videos! Please post more
Will make this short n sweet: you took the right decision.. The points mentioned here, actually make a large difference to the way healthcare is managed in Naturopathy, and the results, over time, prove themselves
Wow.. such a well done video! Thank you for doing this❤
Hi Mikyung! Thank you for watching and for your comment! I appreciate it!!
Can’t wait for more videos!! ❤
Hi Tana! Thanks for watching them >
I understand your reasoning for becoming a ND and I see you’re in CanadaLand, if you would’ve been in the US I think you would’ve liked D.O education. You get the whole system approach, nutrition, and non-medicine/surgery intervention.
You are spot on with your reasoning that some patients want a quick fix and others don’t understand that eating their weight in trans fats probably isn’t the best thing for your brain.
D.O.s, in my experience, are so limited by the system that they are in, that the training means almost nothing - source: a D.O. ignored me for 2 months and told me I was lying, until I went to the ER and then she stopped responding to me. Please see my comment above to @MG-mw5cc, and my comment to @kennysboat4432 below, to understand more. As long as a doctor is working inside the modern medical system, they are essentially castrated, regardless of their training.
Hey doc, is it possible to work a part-time job while studying in a naturopathic medical school?
Yey! ❤ go ND!
I had these same concerns but figured it was practice dependent, ive seen good clinics and bad ones, like what you described. Plus, as an MD i can incorporate ND ideologies into my practice, but not vice versa.
Great content…thank u. 🙏🏼
Too me appointment use to be like this when I was a kid and early 20s. Nowadays i have no clue what is going on.
Which school did you attend Sarah ? Lovely video- I personally love naturopathic doctors because of that the profession stands for.
Hello Woman of God! Thank you for watching and for your comment. I went to the Canadian College of Naturopathic medicine.
@@sarah-wellnessgreatness thank you 🙏🏾
Hey Sarah, I apologize if you’ve been asked this question loads of times already, but when making the decision to go to naturopathic doctor school, did you receive support from colleagues friends and family ? If not, how did you manage that? ✨ Also thanks for another awesome video !!
Great question!
Hi Jaz Notjaz, thank you for your question and for watching my videos! I'd say that my parents were confused at first but in the end became supportive, brother was always supportive, and some cousins were supportive. Many of my "friends" never expressed disapproval, but I know some thought my decision was silly. Not having clear support from them affected me a lot. I didn't handle it well for a few years. But now, I can see that they were never good friends to begin with even before I started ND school. Now, I am at the age where I am tired of worrying about what other people think of me. Life is short. Do what you want to do :)
@@sarah-wellnessgreatness Well I’m glad it all worked for you, thanks for sharing ! ✨
I think a good health plan for an individual is to have an ND and an MD. May I ask doc, are you of Korean descent?
Hello Benoit! Thank you for your comment! I agree with you. You get the best of both worlds if you both. I am not of Korean descent haha, but I sure eat a lot of korean food and enjoy korean dramas.
Certified specialist sports nutrition my wife has stage 4 pancreas liver cancer coping day by day
If I get shot do I just let my self die if I see you run up to me?
I respect ND and what they can offer in alternative medicine. I think that if ND had the ability to practice family medicine in more states it could (potentially) decrease the price of healthcare.
That being said, I think it's important to acknowledge that Integrative and Functional Medicine does the same thing. I see a Family Nurse Practitioner who works in Integrative Medicine and the clinic approach is holistic healthcare (including chiro and acupuncture (although I have my doubts about Chiropractors)). I prefer the Nursing model to the MD model because it's about understanding the root cause of ones illness and not just treating the illness itself. I've also have gotten significantly better care from NP than MD in my experience but I think that is solely based on the person and not necessarily the profession.
ND have an uphill battle to overcome as a profession.
1. Insurance will not cover ND visits so patients must pay out of pocket ($$$)
2. ND's must continue to fight the MD lobbyist to gain recognition and access to practice healthcare (Same issues that PA and NP, although NP are allowed to practice independently in 27 states)
3. Limited # ND schools and state accreditation
4. Lack of recognition from population (including healthcare professionals)
5. There are other specialties in medicine that offers similar approaches in holistic medicine
6. Holistic approach has its limits and medication is sometimes the only/best option for treatment. Since the ND model is not pharmaceutical based, you ability to treat patients becomes difficult as their health deteriorates or becomes more complicated
7. Lack of evidence based research that herbal medicine actually does what it claims
I wish the ND professional best of luck in it's journey to gain state accreditation. I think there is a place for it in healthcare but only in family medicine.
Wow, I’m amazed at how much time you get to spend with patients! It’s a shame that there’s a branching off in how a patient is treated. You would think that it would be automatic to care holistically for the patient. I mean unless we were talking about urgent care I guess. How sad
Is this “Functional Medicine” ? Root cause based ? Thanks
Yes! Another name for naturopathic is functional medical doctor, which honestly is what I wish was used.
Can I shadow you? I’m having issues shadowing one cause they don’t allow it
Hi Ma, yes, but my clinics only allow current students from the Canadian Collage of Naturopathic Medicine to shadow. So if you are a CCNM student and want to shadow me, please reach out to one of my clinics. Info is on my website Wellness and Greatness.com
My only issue with becoming an ND, is insurance companies don’t pay for it so I worry I’m gatkeeping health from people who need it most
Hi Ma, Thank you for your comment. I agree. It is definitely a hardship in this profession.
@SARAH - Wellness & Greatness maybe we need to creat a natural health insurance company
@@MochaZilla Hahaha! Good luck with that! Gonna cost a fortune...
@metorphoric normal health insurance is alreadt a fortune
@@MochaZilla and this wouldn’t make it any less expensive. The solution would be insurance companies allowing ND to bill. Chiropractors and acupuncturists are both alternative medicine and it’s covered by some plans. It comes down to state accreditation. Where I live, ND are not recognized as medical providers. No insurance company is going to allow them to bill.
Love it!
Thank you Roydon Tse!
@@sarah-wellnessgreatnessI want to be a naturopathic doctor in Canada what can I do? please help me
I’m an MD and doing fellowship in integrative medicine
Hello diosmios915! You, my friend, are going to be one unstoppable practitioner! You have the best of both worlds. All the best in your fellowship!
BRAVO !!!!!!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉THANK YOU !!!!! (RN for 30 years!)
What mcat score do you need to become an ND
Hi Agent Juarez, thank you for your question. When it comes to applying to ND schools, you do not need to take the MCAT. The MCAT is a standardized test used for conventional medical schools. There is an overwhelming number of applicants for conventional schools and there needs to be a standardized way to rank them...that is with the MCAT. ND school far less popular and not well known. Therefore there are not as many applicants, and so there is no need for a standardized test to enter. Perhaps if the profession becomes more popular, a standardized test might soon be required for entry. But I don't think that will happen any time soon. It's a teeny tiny profession.
This video really shows what I mean by how difficult it is for MDs to work in such a terrible healthcare system in the US that keeps them from providing the best care they can to patients: czcams.com/video/_CxGhEuXcG8/video.html&ab_channel=AmanpourandCompany
This video shows exactly why I didn't want to get into the MD profession because I saw first hand as I was shadowing many MDs that the job is not as fulfilling as one would hope. Sure financially speaking, I'd make wayyy more money as a MD, but I know I would hate the system that I would be a part of and the money would not be worth it.
@@sarah-wellnessgreatness Hello Sarah! First of all, this made me smile brightly, I think this is one of the best naturopathic video I have ever seen on CZcams. It is a pleasure to meet you. Now I may not be an MD, DO, or ND, but I happen to know pathophysiology, immunology, biochemistry, physiology, and also about herbal medicine and its chemistry. Right now, I have been guiding people with ozone therapy and explanation of the biochemistry with ozone in the body such as the destruction of pathogens, cancers, healing injuries, and so on. I have a folder containing over 550 PDF files containing thousands of citations including medical journal books, including peered-reviewed studies, pilot studies, randomized controlled trials, double blinded studies, meta-analysis, systematic review, etc etc. I am willingly to share the folder with you, and hopefully we can stay in touch since I fully support holistic medicine. The allopathic mainstream medicine has no knowledge of curing chronic illnesses by addressing the root causes.
I will give an example, autoimmune disorder is actually adrenal dysfunction which I will explain how, our adrenals produces corticosteroids which are anti-inflammatory hormones, but the special role of these steroids hormones would be steering our T cells which would be T-killer cells, helper T cells, and T-regulatory cells. People with autoimmune has overproduction low-affinity antibodies that are not target specifics, causing our immune system attacking our own body, the mechanism of this would be due to molecular mimicry due to various pathogens triggering it. And so the purpose is to eradicate the pathogen and rebuilding the adrenals for sufficient production of steroids to steer the T-regulatory cells that regulates the entire immune system including the production of high affinity antibodies that are not auto-antibodies. And what majority of mainstream medical doctors are claiming is that autoimmune is overactive but that is not true which is very simple to prove. Caffeine, stress, steroids medication makes autoimmune worse which all of them weakens the adrenals causing lower immunity leading to more aggressive autoimmune condition. Things like vitamin C, B5, and various adaptogenic herbs are amazing for fixing the adrenal glands, which is why people who has autoimmune must actually avoid nicotine, and caffeine and stuff. I can explain whole complex physiology the whole day. I wanted to share this with you so that hopefully we can stay in touch, and I can share things with you. I have been doing this for many years and cured a lot of people for free.
Regards!
Please see my reply to @MG-mw5cc above. My experience is direct evidence for this. I can't say enough how important the work your doing is spreading this message; thank you so much.
Why not do MD and spend more time with patients or capture patient's full story? You can do all of what you want as an MD, but at the expense of certain levels of profit (which is fine, since that's not your motivation). The benefit is access to a more rigorous and interdisciplinary care team and training.
Hi Numen! Thank you for watching and for your comment. Really good question! At the time I was shadowing, in my early 20s, I honestly didn't think that it was an option to do that. I shadowed so many MDs and it didn't seem like spending time with patients was possible in the medical system they were in. Now that I am older and have a better understanding of what could have been possible, perhaps I would have gone to MD school, and built a practice on my own terms, and spend more time with patients. But you never know, maybe conventional med school would have burnt me out so much that I'd be bitter and lose all desire to spend time with people. All I can tell you is I made my decision based on the experiences I had shadowing, and those experiences led me to be a ND.
There are other reasons for why I became a ND so stay tuned for my next few videos if you are interested in knowing more.
Please see my comments elsewhere in this thread. MDs are not healing people.
It's the awesome Sara WOOHOO
Hi Amyia! Thanks for your support girl! I appreciate it
@@sarah-wellnessgreatness of course your my friend
I am in medical school to become a MD. However, I have decided I want to become a ND.
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The majority of the points you bring up about medicine are very true. However rather than people needing to become NDs, or any particular degree over MD for the reasons you listed makes no sense. How a doctor practices medicine is largely up to them (especially after residency, and what specalty they pursue). The naturopathic doctor degree and subsequent licensing appears to rotate around evidence based medicine practiced by the majority of healthcare workers, however a large subset is quakery and is possibly dangerous. I believe the more "natural" parts of naturopathic medicine that are safe, are great to apply to everyday medicine, but instead of being a degree, it should be an MD specialty. Controversially I would also argue the same about dentistry, and podiatry needing to be specialtys within medicine (largely to integrate all aspects of medicine, and patient care for the medical student). I would probably group ND with DC, chiropractors practice a certain percentage of evidence based procedures and treatments, but a large subset are not evidence based.
Hi Kennysboat4432,
Thank you for watching and for your comment. Your comment has a very nuanced and balanced perspective that is refreshing to see in a comments section. Usually people post something that is 100% in favor or 100% against what is being presented. In reality life isn't just black and white, and the ND and MD professions have both pros and cons. I like how you are trying to think of a solution to the problem that is the current division between ND and MD. I'm not sure if the idea of making the "natural part" a specialty would be a very logistically feasible solution, at least not in my country of Canada. I think perhaps a simpler way would be to have both MD's and nds working together to help patients, and to also eliminate the non evidence based stuff that some NDs provide, and just keep the more evidence based stuff. I think that would be an easier way to go about things and it is already happening on the educational level. I am aware that many old school NDs who were "trained" before I was born provide very odd treatments. Those odd treatments are already not taught in ND schools these days and only evidence based therapies are taught. For MDs, some of them choose to study functional medicine and become a "functional medicine practitioner"which in my opinion is an MDs solution to becoming more holistic/naturopathic.
This totally ignores the social, infrastructural, and political context of the medical system - as well as the sexism and racism that is ingrained in this system. In a perfect world, sure, but this isn't a reasonable solution; the world is more complicated. Please see my comment to @MG-mw5cc above if you want to learn the serious consequences of our broken medical system, that in no way we should be trying to keep. The "evidence based medicine practice's" comment also ignores the expensive and timely nature of clinical trials, which is required to get FDA approval. The only institutions that have the money for those are giant pharmaceutical companies. So, saying that that invalidates other forms of treatments is ridiculous and ignores the real life changing impacts that these herbs/enzymes/nutrients (e.g. magnesium caprylate) have, especially as many have been used successfully for hundreds if not thousands of years. As far as the quackery goes, modern medicine is full of pharmaceuticals that don't really work and are more harmful; but also do not be confused with homeopathy, that is very different. I urge you to educate yourself more without your biases in place. I'll add, I have a PhD in analytical chemistry.
@@sarah-wellnessgreatness Honestly, I wish "functional medical doctor" would replace "naturopathic" for this reason. I think the name scares people, but if you open a naturopathic journal, it's like any well-regarded medical paper, if not better.
Not good enough grades,cheaper+shorter education and easy to leverage in to money would be my guess?
lol 4 years 🤣
You can’t even prescribe medication. People are crazy these days. I don’t understand why go back in time where life expectancy was 45 years. But, hey, I guess the planet is crowed, so, go for it. 😂
Hi Naydaklein5667! Thanks for your comment. Fun fact for you, Pharmacists can't prescribe medications. They can educate people on the drugs but generally they can't prescribe what they dispense. Does that mean they are also going back in time as well? There are many healthcare professionals that don't have the rights to prescribe medications. Physiotherapists, nurses, massage therapists etc. That doesn't mean what they do isn't helpful. I help people learn how to eat a healthy diet, work on improving their lifestyle to reduce stress and improve sleep. You can't replace a balanced diet and good quality sleep with a pill. But aside from that, there are provinces in Canada and states in the US where naturopathic doctors do have the rights to prescribe prescription medication. Many NDs help patients renew their prescriptions when their prescribing doctor is unavailable or too busy to help them get a new script. NDs are also able to judge when a case is serious enough to warrant prescription medications and give them accordingly. I share this with you because I can tell you probably haven't spent the time to actually know what NDs are able to do. Happy you are here to get more informed! Please check out my video on the pharmacist and nurse who became a ND after spending many years in their respective professions. I will also be uploading a video interviewing a former MD who decided to become a ND after graduating and going through residency. Stay tuned!
@@sarah-wellnessgreatness Correct, a RN cannot prescribe but a Advanced Nurse Practitioner can. So can Physician Assistant. RN education (a little as an associate degree) doesn't allow them to diagnose, neither does massage therapist, PT, OT, etc. That isn't a good comparison.
Please see my comments above and below, educate yourself. You are making quite a fool of yourself and quite clearly have not even spent the time to Google. Or perhaps you have, and you do not have the ability to think critically or examine information outside of your own biases.
Nature provides most, if not all the medications one would ever need.
What a way to say you couldnt get into medical school.
-A nurse practitioner
Such a ignorant you might be
Some people just want to choose another type of medicine because they have been failed by the conventional medical system! If ND's are regulated and licensed in my home country i will absolutely go to them to treat my illnesses rather than MD's, because MD's treatment of Chronic diseases suck! But of course they excel in Surgery, infectious disease, trauma care, emergency medicine, but when it comes to Chronic diseases they do suck
MDs are generally just pill pushers and dont know anything about health and nutrition and dont treat to root. MDs are failures
we went to a Naturopathic DOCTOR - everyone should go - for many reasons -
@@aji6026 that is correct going to the same doctor for long periods of time - doctors only have a few minutes and my doctor said well one subject see you next time - gave us a slip of paper and out the office she went - my mother saw the same doctor for years - since I was a kid by in 1964 - it was not until 1996 my mother saw another doctor because of me - returning home - to see my mother - asked her many questions and we were shocked by what we heard from her - so I went with my mother to her doctor shocked us my wife and me so I got her to go to my doctor - not much better - I removed ourselves from this doctor along with my mother - only to find another doctor a letter better - but being honest the same type of doctor - All doctors put you into a slot - like a mail box and really keep you there until like people are saying Doctors are great for Chronic diseases - and surgery - I have myself backed away from surgery - thank god I did - today my mother is died - sister is dead - and we have went to a Naturopathic doctor - woo - what a BIG BIG DIFFERENCE !! THE DOCTOR REALLY ONLY HAVE TIME ( 15 MINTUES ) THEN MOVE ON MY WIFE - THEN OUT THE DOOR - GIVES YOU PERSCRIPTIONS - FIRST QUESTION HOW CAN I HELP YOU TODAY - ONE PROBLEM AT A TIME !! HAVE BEEN REMINDED OF THIS A COUPLE OF TIME IN THE INTERVIEW.
🎉 Go Naturopathic Doctors!!! 🥼 🪴
You are really good with that stuff too
I loved hearing about your journey ❤️