Rob Parker - Kirk Cousins Has Every Right to Question Falcons Drafting Michael Penix Jr.
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- čas přidán 25. 04. 2024
- THE ODD COUPLE - Rob Parker and Rob G react to the Falcons' decision to draft quarterback Micheal Penix Jr. while already having Kirk Cousins under the payroll.
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I agree with Rob. They could've taken that $100m and built a good team around a young QB.
I agree
They didn't know if they was going to be able to draft him when they signed Cousins
Small minded thinking if they didn't sign cousins everyone would have known that they would be looking for a QB and someone would have jumped in front of them
@@jasonbilly5247 they could've signed Fields for less as a draft decoy, if that's your argument.
If you could see the future. Remember TEAMS could traded up to get him.
No one is talking about how shitty this sits for Penix. Telling the oldest quarterback drafted (24 yrs old) who is probably one of the three quarterbacks drafted who could start in that position on day one that he will sit on the bench for 4 to 5 yrs. So Penix will be 28-29 yrs old before he starts. Essentially halfway through his lifespan as a NFL quarterback. If I were Penix, I would demand a trade or hold out.
Yeah I know
Penix is a good insurance plan. They'll need it soon, this is Kirk Cousins, injury prone and is 35 years old
Same, he is the most pro-ready qb in this draft. He could start week 1 for 10 or more teams. If they keep cousins like you said he'll be 28 which is the age most QBs already have their long term $200M. Instead he'll be fighting for his second contract at almost 30 years old.
Rob g such a glazer
Cousins will be gone within the next two years don't trip lol
They should have traded for Justin fields instead of paying Kirk $100 million!
Bingo. If you were going to choose a QB, sign a cheap QB.
Exactly
@trinam383 why? Justin Fields sucks
agree
Rumor has it the GM and coach wanted Fields but Author Blank wanted cousins
they should have cholse one or the other, either you wasted 100 million or you wasted a top 10 pick on someone who wont play.
Penix was touted as the most ready to play QB and now he's got sit for at least two years. He'll be 26 when Kirk's guarantee money is over. He should be more mad than Cousins
Facts 💯
Rodgers sat too how did that work out ?
Too many assumptions.
Penix is a Stud! Studs don't worry about guys like Kirk Cousins... Would you?
Being mad isn't enough- he should hold out and demand a trade- he needs to stick up for himself.
Falcons signed Kirk Cousins because they figure they will have winning records and never be in that position again to draft a top-notch QB when contact play out,
Make sense to me 🤔
If Penix was assessed as the best overall at that pick, on their specific draft board, it makes logical sense to take him.
But why sign Cousins?
They draft a qb for the future - future as in the next gm and hc
Cousins has no right to question anything. Everyone forgets Cousins was drafted by the redskins in the 3rd round after they traded a bunch of picks to move up and drafted RG3. This is just business
Not to mention Kirk Cousins was also a 24-year-old rookie. Also, Cousins largely sat for three seasons and didn't become the permanent starter until he was 27.
It's stupid business, he went there because they told him he would be the guy and they they betrayed him on draft day- he has a right to stick up for himself. Either Cousins or Penix will need to be traded, they both deserve to start.
He CAN question it for sure if they Lied to him. All he has to do is give minimal effort, not stay late after practice, do the Bare minimum. It doesn't matter that they paid cousins 100 million if they Lied b/c if they were truthful Cousins would have stayed in Minessota or gone elsewhere. Maybe just Maybe Cosuins wanted a chance to win during his 2-4 years. This shows that it's NOT about winning now or anytime soon, because they watsed 100 million OR they wasted the #8 pick, either one would have gotten them multiple defensive players ( #8 could have been traded down).
It would be hilarious if Kirk dmands a trade and then you can sit there saying he can't do this or can't do that. That would screw the Falcons b/c they would Have to eat that money like Denver did to get rid of Russell Wislon. The next team will have cosuins for 1 million while SMART Atlanta ends up paying the remainder of the guaranateed money.
@@Urbohat Be realistic . Cousins is 35 and an average QB who is coming off Achilles surgery . There was no way anyone would think he was a lot of term answer
While I agree in principle Kirk has been an absolute NFL mercenary going to the highest bidder and knowingly went to a team that has an owner who was talked out of bringing on Bill Belichick. I don't feel bad for Kirk Cousins ONE IOTA!
this was one of the worst moves that prove most GM's and Owners don't know what their doing.
Drafting penix wasn't stupid decision signing kirk cousins to that huge contract was
The only thing that doesn't make sense is giving cousins all that money but football wise it was a good move
Why does a average game manager with one playoff win in 13 years a playoff game in which he was pedestrian until a couple late throws to wide open guys have a right to question anyone😅
Thinkin about it you right
100M for an B rated qb
I get you need a qb but
Kirk has moments but none that count
Hes a starting journyman
You obviously don’t watch ball that was a dime to thielen to beat New Orleans on that play action pass you crazy….
Y'all delusional
Or a guy who throws for 30tds and over 4000 yards and led them to the division title last year he played the whole year and had close 70% completion rate and has the greatest comeback of all time, also he doesnt play every position on offense or defense so dont always blame him for losing a playoff game, he played great against the Giants last playoff game and they lost.
Also Cousins hasnt played 13 years, he didnt play for a while with the redskins because he was drated as a backup, and Justin Herber has 0 playoff wins.
I’m surprised the owner agreed with this move since the GM signed Kurt to a large contract. Since the NFL combine is before free agency, they should have not made that move if they were interested in Penix since they had a high pick.
If they don't sign Cousins then teams know they're looking for a QB before the draft
This is so hypocritical. Last year the media torched the Jets for not bringing in a legitimate fill-in when Aaron went down. Now they want to torch Atlanta for bringing in a legitimate back-up for an old Kirk coming off an Achilles.
The difference is the Falcons defense is atrocious with the worst pass-rush in the league. The Jets defense was dominant the year before Rodgers signed.
Plus the owner is 82 he ain’t got time to wait for the future
No one knows when a QB will go down, you dont use a top 8 pick on someone you dont plan on playing for years.
@@whenthemaskfalls8591but reaching in the draft for a player won’t change that. I think it takes time to build a defense. And the guys this year weren’t it
Yo the title is funny. So 100 million guaranteed and old QB that hasn't won nothing deserves a explanation?
Yes. They wasted a pick they could have used to help that QB they paid all the money to then decided to do something that makes no sense.
Thank you. Kirk's entire career is being a bridge QB.
Yes. What's difficult to understand?
Yes. You don't pay a guy that much to be a place holder.
@@KNByam you would if you want to compete. If he works out, trade penix. If he doesn't, cut him in year two.
What’s to be embarrassed about? What’s wrong with going to the draft? I was lucky enough to be able to attend the draft in NYC back in 2007. It’s like Times Square at New Years….once in a lifetime.
Im with Rob. This is wild af.
its always dumb to tie up 25% or more of your salary cap in one position.
Falcons had no idea that they could get a bridge QB for cheap. Did they ever call russell wilson?
Where was this in the podcast
You literally said it. “If you’re going to move on from him in a year then fine.”
Of course they’re going to move on. As soon as it makes sense.
They can't until 2 years and if we cut him on year 3 we get 25 mil in dead cap
As a chiefs fan i love this pick. Falcons screwed the Raiders 😂😅
Nah raiders have their sight on Brady coming back later in the year......lol. Didn't you get the memo?
@@chrislong8559
😂😂😂
Ok. Good luck with that.
Even Jerry Jones couldn't screw up this bad, atl bring in Dakota Prescott next spring pay him 60mil for scout team depth😅
Kurt definitely has a right to complain but Atlanta has no loyalty to him. Kurt is a business QB but he mad at the team doing a business decision. I personally think Atlanta should have either drafted Mike or sign Kurt. Not both
As a Bears fan, I want to thank Atlanta for passing on Odunze so we could take him :)
You had no idea who Odunze was until yesterday, shut ur mouth
No QB is automatic in the draft. You just signed a QB to a massive contract and to draft one that high and then say you're thinking about the future is lunacy! You have no idea what he is going to be if and when he starts in the NFL. They should have drafted for the team they have TODAY. If everything goes according to their plans they won't even get the chance to take advantage of the rookie contract window! Come on! Beyond stupid.
Just by reading the title STOPPPPP ITTTTTTT
😂 This is my favorite show to listen to. 🥇
The only way this makes sense is if Cousins is the backup at 180m/100m GTD and Penix starts his NFL career in Week 4.
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Wait...
Maybe Kirk will have to work on Tuesdays going forward.
If Cousins has a bad game then a QB controversy will develop. If the Falcons are out of the playoff race then Penix will have to play. 100 Million for a one or two year QB?
Rob with his jokes😂😂 YOO ROB STICK TO YOUR DAY JOB 😂😂
Rob P. Is right, impulsive decisions like singing Kirk Cousins at that amount like he was the only option when you always had the 8th pick of the draft is why the Falcons are what they are to date.
The only thing the falcons owe Kirk is a check lol
You can look at it like they are standing out there to watch names being called out. I look at it like you’re there to watch dreams coming true. I love the draft
Why does Cousins have the right to Question what the Falcons do , are they not paying him bunches of money for the next two years , shut up take your money and say great decision and I will do my best to mentor him to the best NFL QB I can, but don't expect me not to compete .
When all these qb's start gettin hurt im gone come back n listen to all these stupid discussions like no qb is goin to get hurt making qb market hot
How dare the Falcons disrespect Cousins like this!
As a Vikings fan, I LOVE the Penix pick! Amazing. 🎉
rob parker dropping sneaky link made this
Cousins is 35 years old and will be 36 before the start of the season, even if you buy into Cousins( I certainly do not) you can't possibly believe he will be relevant in 2+ seasons.
If the Falcons had told Cousins that they planned to pick a QB/Penix at 8, then he wouldn’t have signed there! If they decided on this plan after he signed, then it makes you question if they really know what they are doing!
The question i ask people is okay so please tell me if the falcons didnt get Penix Jr then who will be the next QB after Kirk Cousins? Because youre expecting Kirk to win games which in terms will put you late in the draft. So please tell me whats the falcons option(s) after kirk
How many playoff games has Kirk Cousins won? The only thing Kirk should be questioning is how to use that 100 mill
Why would Kirk feel any way? 100m’s guaranteed over 2 years and he’s made over 300+ m’s for accomplishing absolutely nothing i don’t think he really cares he’s playing with house money. LITERALLY😂😂
Last month the media said cousins is overrated, now when the falcons get a future replacement it's a problem?????
This is how my Vikings got Dallas Turner thanks
Cousins shouldn't care he got paid
As a Falcons fan I’m super confused, I don’t know what to think other than having a legit backup. Can someone explain please 🙏?????
The questioning should be why pay Cousins that much money.
Atlanta already got Kirk cussing for the first time in his life 😂
"You Like That"!!!!! Lol
Hmm, … remember when Washington drafted RG3 in the first round and later drafted Kirk Cousins that same draft year. Insurance is important. Pennix is insurance.
Umm, … remember last year when the Jets were criticized - and rightly so - for not having a quality back up behind Rodgers. Falcons made a smart move.
Umm, … remember a couple of years back when the 49ers went through 3 QBs in one season? Drafting Pennix was a smart decision.
This is a good move for them, maybe Kurt will take him under his wing. So the kid learns to be a pro before starting right away.
As my daddy always say, pay the cost to the be the boss. Therefore you can’t question my decision making
If they wanted to do it correct way they need to have stability at the coaching position. They should have draft a qb when Matt Ryan was on the verge of declining or his contract was coming up. And lastly if you move on from Kirk in two yrs you are picking up penix 5th yr option.
He has no right to say squat, get real. First off, it's a business not a clubhouse. Second, Cousins has been there like a month and a half so why should a new player have a say? Just do your job and stop complaining.
If you think terry fontenot and Raheem Morris were going to risk their job on Justin Fields, you are slow
When u kind of think about the falcons they kind of made sense on this pick because he get the money in the first two years. They can make the playoffs in that division with the talent they have which will keep the fans happy. Let penix learn from a good quarterback not great that will be a good role model and in year 3 let him roll so it really make sense. Kirk gonna get u to the playoffs at least not much afterwards but that might be what they want right now
Kirk got 100 mio guaranteed at 36 coming off an Achilles tear Falcons did right by him...
$100mi guaranteed to be a to be a mentor??!! SIGN ME UP!!! KIRK is a hell of a BUSINESS MAN!
Kirk is the ultimate football mercenary. He'll probably weasel his way out of Atlanta after year 2 and sign another big contract elsewhere.
You can do worse than Kirk as a mentor... Kirk has a choke factor but everything else in his mental game is fine.
The problem is they couldve used that 50mil a year on players to win now instead of Cousins cause Penix is Pro Ready NOW!!! I just think wasting the money on Cousins makes no sense 😂😂😂
they're both forgetting Pennix is 24 not 21
Kirk cousins was a great regular season quarterback they will never draft this low as long as Kurt is the quarterback he always makes the playoffs can you get your quarterback when there's a chance no explanation needed Kurt has a 2-year guaranteed 100 million get your ass ready to play
1.) A veteran, above-average starting quarterback who has played at an occasional Pro Bowl level is going to cost $45 million per year in today's NFL. There is a major difference between having Kirk Cousins as a team's starting quarterback vs. having spare parts such as Desmond Ridder, Taylor Heinicke and Marcus Mariota as the starting quarterback.
2.) Cousins' deal will pay out all the guaranteed money in two years when he will be 38.
3.) Cousins will be 36 years old and is coming off an Achilles injury at the start of the 2024 season. If Cousins was a decade younger, it would not have made sense to draft Michael Penix.
4.) Signing Cousins will allow Atlanta to be competitive now while giving the Falcons time to develop Penix for the NFL game. Penix is not brought in to be a permanent backup but to be Cousins' eventual successor. Meanwhile, having Cousins may lead to Kyle Pitts, Drake London and Bijan Robinson having an accelerated development to where they are closer to finished products when Penix does become the starter.
5.) Free agency occurs more than a month before the NFL draft. When Cousins was available, the Falcons had Ridder, Heinicke and Mariota (backup quarterbacks at best) and knew they needed to upgrade the position. The Falcons already started a young player who wasn't ready at quarterback (Ridder), and picking another one at No. 8 would have put them back in the same position.
Penix agent needed to tell the Falcons don't pick him he not going to sit on bench behind Cousins until his contract ends. Penix needs a new agent that would be horrible not to play for 2 or 3 or worst 4 years.
He is a $160 million bridge QB coming off a torn Achilles. Arthur Blank has some explaining to do
The PICK, does not make sense only to people who don’t think ahead. NOT everyone is good at playing chess…
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a 100 mil that should've spent on improving the defense or O-Line OR a first round pick that also can do that.
Instead they spent all of that on a Bridge QB and a QB who ='s not gonna play for the next 2 years.
This is terrible for both qbs- the gm should be fired for sure, and if the coach agrees with this, which it seems he does, he should be fired too. This pick wrecks the Falcon's chances for many years to come, they will not make the playoffs as long as they have both qbs because the team will be demoralized by not knowing who is supposed to be leading this team.
I think we know the reason for this particular selection. And it has nothing to do with football decisions.
Falcons aren’t in a win now mode. They don’t have the team to win now. I don’t understand why Kirk is confused. Penix supposed to be off the draft boards, but slipped into their lap. Falcons made the right move, Kirk can be traded, lots of teams will spend for experienced starter at QB.
Falcons caught the Black QB fever. They couldn’t help themselves.
This draft may have been the best offensive draft in a long time
Bad business. Could have spent that 100M building the team. Paying an older QB coming off an Achilles injury 100M GTD. Then drafting a 23 year old QB at #8. They should have signed a veteran QB to start the season, then bring Penix on slowly. Bad business.
Kirk got 100M guaranteed. The Falcons don't owe him anything else. He knows it's only a 2 deal with options. Why wouldn't you get a prime qb talent who can play after that 2 years, if necessary.
😂 A 35 year old player coming off a major injury being gauranteed 100 million dollars has a right to be upset😂!!!!!!
Kirk is coming off an Achilles rupture and he was average as a NFL starting QB.
His numbers are a Lil better than average but he is average when it comes to winning.
@@chrislong8559 he got good numbers cause they were losing a lot and they HAD to throw the ball more
Man that's a rookie pick for the future great pick Kurt needs to focus on not choking in big games
Smart move
Since when have team considered players feeling? And money has been lost on qb for years. Now we want financial control on qb? They did not want any qb. If MP was gone they would have passed on qb...
Not really. Dude just got to town. He hasn't done anything for them yet to be feeling some type of way.
It’s crazy how normal fans know more than an organization. One of the most stupid moves ever
All they did was overpay for Cousins. Otherwise their QB problem was not solved by Cousins. He is mediocre.
@@Dustyphoto915 the guy they drafted will be a bust too
@@jasonbecke Yeah I don’t believe in that. Pretending to see the future. You are blinded by your bias. Whatever it may be. Cousins has proven to be mediocre. You don’t get to assume Penix will be a bust.
@@Dustyphoto915 6 QBs were taken in the first 12 picks. I’m sure 4 will be busts and he will be one of them
@@jasonbecke Well if you are SURE. That changes everything.
Looks like going for money only has finally backfired of Kirk!
They dont want to keep ther jobs after cousins is done🤣
Complete projection on Rob G's part.
I'm sure most people who followed the draft enough to actually want to attend knew who Terrion Arnold was. (Consensus CB1/2 in this draft)
I get if you're really casual and didn't, but if you are willing to stand around watching the draft, you probably knew who Terrion Arnold was.
Draft doesn't get to total unknown's until like the 3rd round, just cause Rob G doesn't know any college players doesn't mean we're all like that.
Another note is that penix is like 24 so he sits for 2-3 years now ur 26-27 and u better be good your already almost 30
There's no way to explain this
Penix fell into their lap..
I think all teams need 2 good QB....not just one😢
On a more serious note, Flamin’ Hot Funyuns are where it’s at
What kirk mad about he is average at best basically alex smith getting ready for his mahomes 😂
I like the move. The other dude learn.
At this point its none of Cousins business ie no say in the matter.
It's a bad deal for both of them Kirk has to look over his shoulder after one bad game now while Penix he's ready made there is no growth to be had sitting and watching Kirk.
Man no one believes in Cousins
If Kirk cousins has every right to question I guess RG3 had a right to question when Kurt was drafted after him. Could this be karma 🤔
He was drafted to be an insurance policy in case RGIII got injured. And how did that work out?
Kirk sat on the bench behind RG3 for almost 3 full years. This isn't a case of Rodgers being groomed behind veteran Favre. This is a case of Cousins being treated like a non-starter because he was the pick of the fired head coach instead of the pick of the owner. There has been NO QB in NFL HISTORY to be treated as poorly as Kirk. A healthy QB being franchised not once, BUT TWICE, by a team with no starting QB on roster who were too cheap to pay him market value (at the time, there was no precedent for a durable franchise quarterback with no injury history to walk out the door in the prime of his career) and no #1 pick? That is insane.
Per Joe Theismann: “Kirk hasn't even made two full starts in relief of the injured Robert Griffin III, but has already mastered head coach Jay Gruden's offense. Now, if there was a quarterback competition, it wouldn't be a competition. Kirk Cousins would be the starter because of the efficiency with which he has run the offense.”
The falcons say they want to replicate the packers model. The packers had Brett Favre a 3 time mvp 1 time superbowl champ. Aaron rodgers was 21 years old when drafted. When the packers drafted Jordan Love he was 21 years old sitting behind a 4 time MVP 1 time superbowl champ. The falcons just spent 180 million for 4 years for a QB with 1 playoff win and then draft a QB who will be 24 when training camp comes and plan to sit him for 3-4 years. If the Falcons plan to keep Cousins for the entirity of his contract. Penix will be 28 and the falcons will be wondering if they drafted the right guy while QBs of that age are either on another team or nearing the end of the long term contract getting ready to go to the table for the extension. If the Falcons wanted to do this they should have traded up for Drake Maye. I guarantee half the people in that Falcons war room last night will be out of a job in 3-4 years.
The difference is Favre had already been playing for the Packers for 16 years. Same with Rodgers and Love. It was 18 years for him when Love got drafted. Kirk hasn’t even played in one game.
You aren't 'Winning Now' with Cousins. No matter who you drafted instead.
Then why pay him? Don’t sign him and save the guaranteed. Then sign more players to help Penix.
They paid him bc they can't predict the future... I would rather have Kirk and Penix over missing out on a QB like the Giants