How To Teach A Complete Beginner Drums In Minutes!
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- Different drum teachers have all different ways of getting a new drum student over certain hurdles on drum set. This is one technique I use as a drum instructor that has never failed once in over 23 years of teaching! Give it a try if you haven't already.
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"Hey joe whats the time signature?"
"Its like first an apple, then you go watermelon and ends on high table"
Audiation vs theory 😉
Bruh 🤣🤣
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@@Thedrummersalmanac can you provide the other fruit concept video links because YOUR METHOD WORKED BUT NOW I NEED THE OTHER VIDEO LINKS THANKS AGAIN!!
@@LeRonWest I do have the entire method on my app… but I haven’t put the whole thing on Social. This vid does need a part 2 though
The kick sounds like someone throwing a brick in an empty dumpster
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Blahahaha
Or hitting a garage door with a baseball bat
The snares are being vibrated from the kick I hate when that happens
@@sublime4984 It sounds amazing though
Here’s the biggest lesson that over 40 years of teaching music and 2 languages taught me:
“Everyone learns differently.”
As an educator and a novice drummer, I agree!
For real. Ive been teaching drums and guitar for 5 1/2 years now and its crazy how something full proof can work as a method for one kid then completely different for a similar aged and reading leveled other kid
That's true... but some ways work better and more consistently than others... This is one of those ways.
“the mistake most teachers make is teaching music”
😭Crying in student retention
YES... In the beginning... If you're teaching "music" ergo, notes and time signatures... Yeah... I would say that's a mistake. 🤷🏻♂
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Yea spoken last…….
@@Thedrummersalmanacdepends on the student
I look at life through numbers and logic so looking and a part by looking at what it’s written like on the sheet is how i learn and if i learned that then it would have been too confusing
The way my middle school teacher teaches is based on syllables in fruit
Plum is quarter
Pine-ap-ple is triplet
Wa-ter-mel-on is sixteenth
That’s is prob the easiest way by making them learn through syllables
If you teach someone this who knows music or wants to be in a concert band then they’ll have less time learning how to read
It’s like teaching someone sentences before how to read a word or the alphabet before reading
This confused the effing life out of me 🤣
How? Maybe I can help.
@@Thedrummersalmanac So I have a question. I really want to learn drums. I've tried to learn guitar but I just don't get it. I have ADHD which is probably the reason I lose interest so fast. I have a feeling I may be able to pick drums up easier. What's your thoughts on how to approach as someone who has never played drums before? Cheers mate
@@andyhammond5649 I have terrible adhd… so I feel ya, my friend. i had to work twice as hard as everyone else in school. I also think I had a sequencing issue. Unfortunately I’ve passed it onto my daughter. But, I really feel like drums helped me.
Teaching a beginner takes patience and a solid system for them to follow. ADHD or not, the system is what’s important. Drums is all about repetition and conditioning. But you have to focus on the right things first.
@@andyhammond5649 A bit late but for me and my ADHD I started playing rockband 2 or 3 with the original drumkit. Playing on easy mode with the music playing and it being a game on the screen it was really easy to keep my attention and make me wanna try again and again. After playing a bit and getting feeling for simple grooves I took on drumming lessons and I'm now 8 sessions in and bought a real drumkit and having a blast!
Ok
I’ve tried both vertical and horizontal thinking with my students and horizontal is almost always more intuitive for them. I do make them study the chart vertically too when its particularly challenging, but I disagree that it’s a bad habit to teach horizontally
Not a bad habit just a different approach. And I have most definitely found the opposite to be true… maybe on a simple groove. But when it gets complicated, you’ve got to line things up top to bottom. layering horizontally and just trying to play everything together is infinitely harder in my opinion… but if that works for you & your students.👍🏻
Learning a shuffle this way seems like absolute cancer or a swing. Problem is how long the notes a relative to each other.
@@totallyoriginalgamer8398 I’ve never used it for a shuffle… at least not this method. By the time we talk about shuffle and swing, the student is way past fruit. Lol 😂
Hey we have a similar username lol. I was like have I commented before??? Anyway. I agree with you.
I just lost 20 years of drumming experience in about 35 seconds. I can't even play apple now.
Maybe you should try something else. Drums might be too complicated 😂
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@@kotukuwhakapiko467 that’s it!
Ahahahaha you’re killing me, I felt the same way 😂😂😂😂😂
@@Thedrummersalmanac choose a different teaching method when the whole comment section is confused ❌
belittle them and call them too dumb for their lifelong passion ✅
I do something similar! I've noticed it develops the muscle memory for my students better, I try to develop that rather than brain memory, you need to walk before you run
My kid is 7 and just got a pearl roadshow. And we watched your video and she loved it. Thank you🤘🤘👍
Thats just more confusing😐
How so? I can tell you from almost 30 years of teaching experience and showing hundreds of students this methods… it’s never failed once. 😉
@@JB-pg6ju oh it has… hence me developing this method instead… this came about as an answer to having very mixed results with the old fashioned way depending on the student’s talent level. Again, testing it with hundreds of students over 3 decades yields data… and those results and practical experience trumps your feelings and your untested option on it. If you teach at all… this is obviously something you haven’t tried. I’d recommend it. 👍🏻
@@JB-pg6ju I’d recommend if you were trying to teach it 😉…you don’t play vertically forever. 🙄
@@Thedrummersalmanac well I'd never try to teach it this way...if I was gonna count it wrong, I'd count it 1 2 3 4....why use the fruit? Pointless
@@JB-pg6ju ...Because fruit is an easy, common, unintimidating thing that a beginner can relate to. Watch the video with my mother. Note her reaction. Notice she's laughing because of how ridiculous it sound as she's counting in fruit. Once the coordination is resolved, then we pivot to a satndard form of counting and reading especially since we've laid the groundwork of that mind/body association. But this method takes away that mindset of "I can't" or "this is complicated" and replaces it with something familiar, fun and easy. Now, if you don't see that because of "reasons" ...or simply because you feel the need to double down... that's fine. But it still doesn't change the results of almost 30 years of teaching 😉 ...again, the data doesn't lie.
Thanks. Im a complete beginner who is an anime artist only knowing a few things about music. This makes more sense to me than other tutorials i tried to follow.
Broccoli cheese sauce, broccoli cheese sauce. Stop I’m hungry now
I don't know that I would use 3 syllables. lol
For me the first method helped me way more than the vertical method.
Then you haven't truly tested both...
Super interesting take! I feel like this would actually work really well.
23 years of teaching drums professionally.. It’s never failed once. Even on students that have absolutely zero natural ability. The real tough nuts. All you have to do is drill in that association. I play a game with them where I put in the metronome at a certain tempo and I say apple, orange, or 2 randomly to the click. They have to play the right thing on the upbeat after I say it. And I try to screw them up. A few rounds of that, then you could arrange the fruit in an order that makes sense for a drum Groove. Then they’ll just play it.
A lot of drum teachers will show you and have you repeat, but they don’t really SHOW you. Coming from a beginner drummer I was taught first wrist movement and the open close technique. Then I started learning how to play different beats which was way easier then trying to learn the beats first. By learning hand techniques first, the different fills and grooves come way easier than they would without the hand techniques.
That apple and orange thing completely throws everything off. The syllables don't match with the rhythm which can confuse people.
And it's exactly the opposite... Having the rhythm match the syllables requires a beginner to have a strong natural sense of time. Many do not. Introducing two syllables gives them a little melody to sing as they play. It fills in some of that space that they can't yet perceive. In this example it's 1e& 2e&...If you did Apple 2 orange 2 apple apple orange 2... you get 1e& 2e& 3e&a4e&... This is unconscious to them, but it signifcantly helps them develop the time through melody. Never underestimate the power of audiation, especially for a beginner.
Drum theory compared to guitar theory is just apple to oranges honestly can’t comprehend this
Bro found the at anger snare 💀
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This is also good for intermediate drummers when learning polymeter, drawing it out shows what lines up and can help get the feel down easier
Similar principle... Go vertical vs Horizontal 👍🏻
@@Thedrummersalmanac yup! Exactly
Want to learn the drums, tried this and it really worked
This man is a National treasure. So gracious, with a patient understanding for the gift of teaching drums. Thank you , man.
I don't quite do it like this, but more a combination of the two styles. I don't give names like "appel two orange two;" I say, "both right hands right." After going beat by beat with it until the get the coordination, I have them layer it so they begin to get the feeling of the individual components of a drum beat.
this helped me finally learn how to play a beat😭tysm
1&2&… is the way to go because drum sheet music is written in a way consistent with counting that way and also 1 E & A or 1 &A … for 16th note patterns is counted in a specific manner.
Not necessarily for a beginner. Plenty of time for that later... but in the beginning I prescribe fun mixed with audiation. Counting and theory can often feel like work and intimidation. So I don't start there.
I'd like to learn a joey jordison fill using this method ;)
Ap22222Oran22222222222. Wait for the scream then 22222222222222
WHOA that's how I taught myself! I always try to tell people this and they're like wtf are you talking about. Basically describe it as learning chunks or phrases of a beat then putting them together. This is a much more "scientific" way of teaching it. Genius.
This is a badass video, saved my life, keep it going my man👍👍
I agree with this, sometimes there's grooves that I struggle learning, and playing each limb separately isn't helping all that much, what works best is just *very* slowly playing the entire groove with every limb, but very slowly beat by beat and getting the feel for it, and then just speed that up.
I feel like separating every "track" works if it's so automated that you can just churn out 8th notes without even thinking about it, and then you could just layer things ontop of that because the 8th notes are just a reflex, but I'm not there yet :(
Absolutely... I approach more difficult things both ways. Horizontally helps you find the flow better, but vertically helps to get the coordination. New players should just be working on the coordination first. They will get the flow what’s the big knot in their brain is worked out. 😂
I have always used normal drum sticks and I have never seen those sticks before can you post a video showing us what they are for
They’re called hot rods. You can get a pair for about $20 or so. They’re basically a whole bunch of thin wooden dowels squeezed together with a grip. A sort of middle ground between brushes and sticks (at least, I like to think so.)
Thanks
I actually have a vid on how to make you own from scratch!
yeah it's really good, some people have trouble grasping more "abstract" concepts. Designating these patterns as fruit, while it might seem silly, would definitely help a lot of learners.
I did some very light maths teaching online (for free) and a lot of students couldn't answer a question, but then when I swapped out X for oranges, it was the easiest thing in the world. Some people just need visualisations more than others.
kinestetic and audiation techniques are very powerful tools.
This might work great with a kid who doesn't know eighth notes, etc. But if ya got a kid that already understands that counting - the apple stuff is confusing.
How many young Drum Students walk in the door understanding what an 8th note is? And if they’re understanding rhythms like 8th notes already, chances are they’ve already learned a basic rock beat. 🤔 Most young students that come to me, (between 3-11yrs old) do not know anything about drums… or rhythm, or even how to hold a pair of sticks. And this method has a 100% success rate with them. Check it out in action with my 5-year old daughter. czcams.com/video/cdsC5oZXtTI/video.html
@@Thedrummersalmanac Yes, most people who have never held sticks don't know how to hold sticks. This much is obvious. You don't consider that a lot of people come to drums with some or a lot of existing knowledge in music. I've been a musician for about 10 years now and I only started learning drums last year. My teacher understood that and didn't slow me down with this stuff that just gets in the way.
@@RasburryTe your teacher also looked at your unique situation and took the appropriate action. But you are not considering is that there are other people that are not like you. This method is for them 😉
I understand the idea/principle in this video, my criticism is apple and orange are two syllable words which suggest two hits, I'd advise using a single syllable word like the classic - boots/cats
That's very much on purpose and here's why. Some students do not have a natural sense of time. A single syllable word relies on them having good natural time. But two-syllable words makes them sing a syllable in between the beats. (apple two orange two translates to 1e& 2E&) This is unconscious... but that rhythmic flow of the audiation helps them develop the time. Anyone can sing a rhythmic melody, not everyone can keep a steady beat right off the bat. Hope that makes sense.
@@Thedrummersalmanacok, I see what you mean, interesting approach 👍🏽
@@phillredfox and the Melodie’s get really cool when you start mixing those apple and oranges. A2OA2AO2 translates to 1e&* 2e&a 3*&a 4e&* …just having the student sing that, helps resolve their coordination and their time. It’s like magic when you see it click in their head.
Thank you for making this vid it really helps me a lot
I've been drumming for 20 years, and I love the way you put this man! Keep coming with it 🙌
Great tip! I will make sure to use it for people I try to teach!
Try it… never fails. I also have a few videos actually working on it with a beginners: czcams.com/video/cdsC5oZXtTI/video.html
I'm barely starting out at drums. I'm gonna choose this method but I've decided to associate each limb of my body and piece of the kit (crash, snare, kick, hihat, ride etc..) with different things or people I love more than anything in the world.
Awesome… I reserve those for my next step.
I used that but with boots and cats to teach my 10yo brother. It worked
Awesome 👏🏻
My drum teacher would go “one anda two anda one anda two anda” and that would always help me
Sure... later... But not on lesson 1.
@@Thedrummersalmanac yes yes, I been playing like 13 years now but just a nice tip if it helps
What about "kick & snare &" I tried teaching my friends the horizontal way and they couldn't do it but once I came up with that they got it immediately
That works… I personal like two syllable words which helps with time a little bit… Apple 2 orange 2 makes them sing “1e& 2e&” adds a little rhythm to the audiation. I also use “bass” and “snare” in the next step in conjunction with the apples & Oranges when we learn “in-between s”
A fun thing someone once taught me when counting odd time signatures:
In russian beer is пиво
A goofy way to say vodka is водочка
Пиво has two syllables and водочка has three.
So you can just use those to count 3/8 and 2/8.
So basically 7/8 is пиво пиво водочка, 11/8 is водочка водочка водочка пиво, et cetera
The way I teach it is boots and cats cause that’s familiar and then I go on to teach them “1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and”
I like it.
Not a chatbot gpt. Thanks. Wow. Top end #1 drumming video for a starter
Thats such a cool way to do it lol
OMG... I'm a self taught drum beginner and your method is really effective ❤ thank you so much❤
This actually was worse for me. But everyone’s different!
Is it worse for you?… or did you already know how to play the other way? 😉 …unless you were taught both ways at the same time 🤷🏻
@@Thedrummersalmanac I’m only just starting out and haven’t had any formal training. So maybe it’s just some instinct that my brain prefers the other way.
@@littlehonu it also depends very much on if you already learned it the other way… then, by comparison it will seem easier cause you already know it… and it will also make a difference as you start to get more complicated, mixing up the kicks against that backbeat. Layering is a lot harder in that case, but certainly not impossible.
@@Thedrummersalmanac makes sense!!
@Thedrummersalmanac dont think your way is the only way
Genius!
this also helped me on piano, when both hands were playing different rhythms, it really helped it make sense to me when i thought about what beats my hands hit notes together on
Boots and Cats the best imo❤😊
That works! … my method requires two syllable words. that comes into play more with the next step. But the audiation of 2 syllables help them sing the rhythm, 1e& 2e& ..that’s on purpose.
Hey so as a guitarist just using the drum settings on a keyboard I'd say the traditional is easier for me. I was easily able to play along thinking horizontally with the high hat as a rythm and the kick on 2 and 4. Idk if it's because I have some musical experience but that came easier to me. Your association isn't bad at all but it definitely was a bit confusing for someone who sorta gets it but doesn't know how to really play anything. Idk I like thinking of the high hat as a consistent rythm with the rest on the off beats or whatever then grouping the notes together like that. I can see it being good for teaching a true beginner as the video states but I just wanted to say I like the traditional way for some of us it just clicks like that I guess!
Sure... a couple of things though... (and I think you meant Kick on 1 and 3... It would be the snare on 2 & 4) in this video... in it's most basic form... Tons of people will get it either way. The real challenge is when things get more complicated. The reason for that is wne counting say 1&2&3&4&... There isn't a clear assication with what you are physically doing and the count you are doing it on. In otherwords... and APPLE is always an APPLE no matter where it is in the beat. But horizontally, you're just counting so there's no association developed. That's when this method really proves itself. Even for someone that is not a true beginner. Now, Someone that is intermediate and already has a good grasp on the basic coordination... I wouldn't start this way. The outcome is to resolve the basic coordination. Once the student is over that hump, then I start them on standard counting.
I guess if the student has no clue what a time signature is/ doesn’t understand time signatures. Eventually they will need to learn all of that so I’m not sure this method would help in the long run.
Concepts like time signatures have no bearing on a beginner student who is just learning to play. That comes way down the bench once basic coordination like this, is resolved.
@thedrummersalmanac respectfully, I disagree. Counting is everything when you're the person that is driving tempo and keeping time. Lesson one shouldn't even be on a kit. 1 an 2 an 3 an 4 an . . . .
That’s so much I better I just started yesterday and this helped me out a lot when trying to learn it
I think this approach might have merit but Why not just give the names of the counts right away instead of fruit names?
Eg. BD and HH are called 1
HH by itself is called “and”
BD and SD are called 2
HH by itself is again called “and”
Because it's not as fun... as relatable and persoanlly I do use all of those... but in the next step, in conjunction with all of the fruit.
Is true you are right so I'm happy for it
Within the first 15 minutes of their first lesson, I can tell if a student be good drummer or me being a high priced baby sitter.
It's a fact.
I’ve been there. Sometimes maturity is a big factor. And I’m not talking about age.
Ha! Cool, reminds me of how the feel of compound time signatures in Irish trad music is often taught here; e.g: "apples and oranges, apples and oranges".
Gotta be kidding me, are we making a fruit salad or some shit?
For those that don’t get it. He’s teaching “groups” instead of layers. It’s an easier difference from doing “two different things at the same exact time” to instead doing a “group” (apple) (orange).
But imo you have to build the fundamentals like locking in on the tempo with the hi-hats. Some people have to learn rhythm and they need a firm learning on it. And if you teach groups they’ll just throw apples and oranges when they feel it’s right, and not when the hi-hat and count cues them.
“The mistake I see most teachers make is that they teach music how it’s supposed to be taught.”
Not in my experience. I have found through almost 30yrs of teaching thousands of students, that audiation... in the beginning, beats standard counting and notation everytime. How long have you been teaching drums, I wonder? 😉
As someone who just got a drum set and started this is really helpful thank you
That is a good drum beat man
Thanks
I figured this out on my own. I was having trouble with the standard instruction and yes this approach works
I don't get it lol watched this 3 times
What are you confused about? Maybe I can clear it up. 🙂
I came from bass/guitar and appreciated learning my first few beats this way, treating it like a riff with chords and notes in between
Its more confusing for the kid learning when he talks to other drummers and he says the orange of 4,im not being funny just truthful. But hey you do you my dude
Is it? Watch my 5 year old daughter do it: czcams.com/video/cdsC5oZXtTI/video.html …everyone will get it this way… can’t say the same with the horizontal way.
I guess we all learn it diffrent but hey if it works it works it's a diffrent method tbh
This is how I processed drums in my head while I was teaching myself before I started having lessons pretty neat system
That is more complicated than counting 1234 lol
Absolutely not. especially when the grrove get's more complicated. They sing what they play and create that association in their head. Counting numbers horizontally does not create that association. For ex, 1 & 3 are different numbers but you are doing the same thing... this is confusing for a beginner. But an APPLE is always an APPLE... no matter where you put it. So once they have that association, you can mix and match. Apple two Orange Apple two two Orange Apple... They sing it... then they can just play it.... Like magic. 😉 #audiation
@@Thedrummersalmanac infact I count 1234 2234 3234 4234 then back to 1 lol
@@Victtimus ha... well now you are talking about full phrases... That's a lot further down the bench. lol
I was teaching that concept 25 years ago. Nice to see somebody else thought of it.
Wtf are you talking about man.
Check it out in context 😉 czcams.com/video/cdsC5oZXtTI/video.html
Awesome. I should have learned this way!
What in the ever loving fuck?
what's confusing to you? Maybe I can help
@@Thedrummersalmanac sounds like it’s working great for you and your students so keep up the good work bro.
This is genius! As a percussionist, vertically is exactly how I think of rhythm in terms of limb independence
I must disagree as a student, this sounds like you're trying to make teaching drums common core.
lol...
I just tried this method on 4/4 and it worked great! Do you have a similar video for 6/8. Vertical training is great and your method made very easy for my student to pick it up.
Apple 2 2 orange 2 2
you’re teaching “horizontally” just changing the language to fruit instead of numbers •_•
No... Horizontally is the idea of layering the limbs... Starting with say the hihat part... then adding the snare part... then adding the kick part... this is not doing that at all. This lines each voice up vertically and has the student find how each voice comes together on every cooresponding beat, one at a time. Much easier for a student to grasp.
This is called chunking and its very effective and brilliant, great idea sir
Tony Robbins?
Chunking is mnemonic device in which grouping things together makes them easier to remember
@@patrickconlon9451 Exactly... and Tony Robbins has a time management course called ""Time Of Your Life" where he does a whole section on "Chunking." 🙌🏻Great stuff.
@@Thedrummersalmanac oh I learned that in psychology but I bet he used a lot of psychological theories to develop his programs
@@patrickconlon9451 absolutely... or your psychology professor went through his program. It's pretty old. But Tony is all about 'borrowing' from books and other teachers... so who knows!
Teaching the same thing with different words absolutely makes no sense literally your making it more complicated
Nope.. not at all. This method literally connects the students mind to the rhythms they are playing where the other way relied on them “feeling” it. That’s what makes it more fool proof. czcams.com/video/cdsC5oZXtTI/video.html
@@Thedrummersalmanac but you have to “feel it” thats just part of the process
Not gonna lie the apple to orange thing made my brain almost melt 😂😂 now I’m just constantly like which was which which is coming aaagahagsgshbs
You have to take a minute and build the association. That's what makes this so powerful. here's an example: czcams.com/video/cdsC5oZXtTI/video.htmlsi=h6PTLoTZJjrxDRFf
Nope. Get a book and get an instructor.
Or just go on CZcams without wasting money
…Definitely get an instructor… don’t understand the “nope” though 🤷🏻
@@sunnyclean9743 investing in lessons with a great teacher is never a waste of money. Learning on CZcams still cost you time… not everything on CZcams is accurate. So your trading time going through videos to try and hash out what’s right and what’s important to focus on. I always argue that time is worth more than money. You can always make more money, but you never get time back. If you are serious… invest in a good teacher.
Anything that will help get a grasp is good. I've never taught anyone but I played and learned percussion in highschool and self taught kit at the same time, with only a couple lessons from my dad. It was so seamless for me I don't remember when it all clicked, but teaching someone something that is second nature to me is honestly very difficult.
Ridiculous
How so? What this and get back to me… czcams.com/video/cdsC5oZXtTI/video.html
@@Thedrummersalmanac maybe I don’t understand what you are trying to accomplish. But it all appears to be something that will need to be unlearnt. Other than having a sweet time with you daughter which I total understand.
@@williamkleitsch1153 It depends very much and if you’ve tried to teach this way. My daughter got this in about 15 minutes, from never holding a drumstick before… and she’s 5. And she won’t “unlearn” anything. The coordination will be established, just the Terminology will change. 😉
Thank you so much for sharing! You were able to teach my son how to play so quick! You’re awesome!
This is a horrible lesson to reach to a beginner lol
how so?
@@Thedrummersalmanac First way is simpler and easier to remember and it accomplishes pretty much the same thing. The other method is way too convoluted
@@BIGxBOSSxx1 and here's why you are wrong: If you ask most people if they think they can play the drums, what is the most common objection? Most will say something to the effect of "I could never separate my limbs and do two or three different things together, like that." Layering rhythms on top of a horizontal count (1&2&3&4&) feeds into that mind set of layering your limbs. Some students are defeated the second you bring that concept out, because of this mindset. This method completely erases that paradigm of "I don't have the coordination" and it does it in a very silly, fun and approachable way.
@@Thedrummersalmanac Nah. I’ve given lessons to tons of people and pretty much everyone picks up the typical “1,2,3,4” method pretty easily lol
@@BIGxBOSSxx1 A couple of things there... "Pretty Much Everyone" is not "Everyone." This method works with everyone. 2. This is not something I am guessing about. This was developed through years of teaching and hundreds if not thousands of different students. I've been teaching drums since I was in college back in 1996... That's 27yrs of teaching drum students... I have the data and experience to back it up. 3. If you really are a drum teacher, have you ever even tried this method... before going on to dismiss it? Ya see, a real pro doesn't guess. They test... and notice what works and what doesn't. I, for example, would never go on another drum teacher's channel and try to "debunk" their method. Especially with nothing to back it up. I would test it, myself... and even then recognize that every teacher has their own method and respect that. Bottom line... basically, pros don't troll other pros.
Omg it worked for me so well! My bf has been teaching me the horizontal one which I can do but found it tricky. But I found this Apple Orange easy to visualize and remember. It took me seconds to learn and barely any mistakes. Different methods apply for different people I guess. Thank you so much.
Well I played for 2 years before I figured out how to bounce stick off the snare so I figured that out and then once they learned how to tap the ride cymbal it was all over because I became one of the best drummers in Las Vegas so there you go The ride cymbal is basically a bell, just tap it in rhythm top , top of the bell and learn how to let your sticks bounce of of The drum heads especially the snare so once you learn how to let your drumsticks bounce off the snare, You're good, That's what that rat a tat, ratta tat sound come s from. A lot of bands, like guns n' roses use a deep snare without a rattle. When I listen to music I can tell the difference between a snare with a rattle on it a deep snare with a rattle on it or a deep snare without a rattle on it guns n' roses in the early days Stephen Adler used a deep snare with no rattle, my biggest mistake was hitting the drum heads too hard you have to let them bounce back up towards you and once you learn that you are going to become a much much much much much much much better drummer
I agree that this would be helpful for a complete beginner to drums and music in general, but as for me who has many years of playing instruments in general, it is definitely easier to associate the rhythms horizontally--don't know if that would be somebody else's experience, but learning it vertically seems more confusing
that depends on what you are learning... horizonally is great for "simple" ...but not so much for complicated. Like say if you were learning a latin thing.
Thank you so much I tried it it worked!
Really did it
I'm not really a beginner,
But i just wanted to go back and learn somethings new again i think
So glad you weren't my teacher I definitely would have quit 😭😭😭😂😂
You would never be my student with that attitude. 😉
this makes so much sense thank you
This method would have gotten through to me and helped a lot 30 years ago when I started.
I'm a godlike drummer these days, I'm all horizontal now.
You should recognize both depending on the situation... and if you teach, you'll definitely see the difference... especially with the tougher students.
Wow. Top end strategy. Tremendous. A huge thanks. Now practice this 100 times and repeat.
That's a cool idea. I use nonsensical sounds like " boom boom bop" and help them get the feel of the rhythm of "boom boom bop" then I add limbs
I can see how this could be helpful for certain people. My teacher usually just plays something (at a reasonable tempo) and then waits for me to repeat it. I’d say I like it that way. He did the whole “naming things” thing one time last year and I think it helped a lot of people in the class. But personally I’m a “boots and cats and” fan over all that other stuff lol
respect bro
Concentrate on the fulcrum techniques and count.
Listen to the masters.
I actually found that way more confusing than 1-e-and-a-2-e-and-a…methodology, where you just placing the hats, snare, and kick in the respective place you choose in that template, but that is just me…and that is also horizontal
Sure... if you already know it that way, it's hard to put yourself in the mind of a beginner who does not.
I started teaching my nephew this way but he’s allergic to oranges so he wanted to change it and we settled on “Pickle” lol. Thanks for the great lessons.
Pickle worls great 👍🏻
I'm a drumming noob but not quite beginner anymore. I've been having difficulty putting some hand/foot combinations together but I'm going to try applying your vertical method to those issues to see if they work better. Thanks!
Terrific way especially with young kids.
How so? Check it out with a 5yr old... I'll await your reply: czcams.com/video/cdsC5oZXtTI/video.html
one of y'all doesn't know what terrific means and i have no idea who 💀
Ive been playing for awhile and i finally starting taking lesson from a principal percussionist and ive done months of lessons without even touching a drumset, just drilling my pad technic to a point aswell as studying music theory WHICH IS NECESSARY AS A DRUMMER im the drummer who writes the songs for the band
Nice… Every teacher has their own method 👏🏻