Skip the Weed Fabric, Waste Your $$!
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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2024
- We love saving money too! We also know not putting down weed fabric below your river rock will cost you more. A lot more! Watch this video to find out how your life will be ruined without weed fabric!
I used the fabric for my bark, I spent the next 10 years cussing and removing the fabric, weeds are a guarantee anywhere, trying to remove the fabric is a pain in the behind!
By reading the description I thought you were going to tell us weed fabric was wasting money. Glad I watched.
Same. I thought I was going to get a better solution than fabric. Good video though.
That's what I thought too. It is marginally mis-leading but not on purpose.
😂😂 I was thinking the same thing!
It is a waist of money.. Does NOT allow water through, so with any downpour you will have flooding and pools of water!
Don't use weed fabric.
You win for the most misleading, ambiguous video title.
This will happen with weed fabric too, weeds find a way, they either creep out or poke through, looks the same as someone who used weed fabric couple of years later. Weed seeds also blow on top and the rock gets dirty and wet and now soil for seeds...ijs
I agree. I don't think there is any way of keeping weeds out.
Not if you use heavy duty weed fabric.
@@AW-xj1mf does not work, lmfao. None of it works. Have fun trying to pull weeds that have fused with your fabric.
@@kenshinhimura9387 Don't wait several years. Do it often. Of course you can't permanently stop weed growth. You can't stop a mountain from washing away either. Eventually everything will end up in the ocean. But you can delay it by putting down weed fabric and on occasion pulling the new weeds before they take hold. Of course it's easier to say nothing helps and just lay on the couch drinking beer.
@@zak2u2 I use wood chips. Those actually work and even if a few weeds do grow in the wood chips they are very easy to pull out because the roots can't get a good grip.
Saw a video where a guy put 5" of river rock down vs using fabric as a test. The heavy rock area hasn't had weeds for years, the area with fabric has to be treated regularly. Fabric gets old as you said and eventually tons of weeds even with good fabric they find ways to grow.
Saturday morning, your flower beds filled with weeds. You spend an hour pulling weeds and you feel like Million bucks. Why would you rob me of that feeling. Weeds are always welcome in my yard.
Nahh forget the weed fabric. Instead use large broken down boxes they work awesome and are free! I just open both ends of the box, fold so you have 2 layers, and lay them in place, then fill with rock or mulch.
Lasts even longer than weed fabric 👍
Cheap, easy, effective 👍
Do you mean cardboard boxes?
Cardboard???
Won’t cardboard decompose and the weeds will still come through?
And cardboard invites termites. Use Preen.
@@DriftmanX it will eventually decompose. It is the best method for killing invasive like Bermuda grass since it completely blocks UV rays from getting to the plant. Eventually, just like weed cloth, it'll decompose, but much much easier to deal with and somewhat better for the environment
Glad I watched to the end. I was think you were thought weed mat was a waste of money.
Weed fabric lasts about one year - after that - it’s weed nightmare and impossible to get out of rock. Ugh never ever ever will I do rock!!
i dont have an issue with my weed fabric. been 5 yrs. but my rock is also about 4 inches deep. i get a few weeds here and there from the birds pooping seed out but easily pulled since there isnt much to root into. if u just have rock and no plants, spray with weed killer then pull them out in a few days. i also use preen every april.
Did you use a light weed fabric? The heavy woven fabric actually does work, but the lighter ones are worthless! Torpedo grass laughs at the lighter ones.
Use prodiamine. Research it. Common to use to prevent germination on lawns, gravel, etc.
Give it a couple years of leaves, lawn clippings and dust to put some natural compost on top of the rocks and you still get weeds. Used billboard tarps working good as fabric around my hedges after removing old stone and washing with garden hose before putting back over tarp.
Within a year fabric will sprout weeds on top anyways. Fabric gives you temporary weed control at best, but I still use it on most clients' projects.
I was told that’s because weed seeds will penetrate the fabric from the top (ie, weed trees) so still important to do cleanup. I have some pretty creepy weeds I want to block if I can
It keeps decorate rocks from mixing and getting lost in the soil/mud at least.
Gosh. So for weeds growing between pavers or in this rock driveway, pour a little and I mean little amount of boiling water or water the temp for making coffee on the weeds and take care of your problem. Cooked weeds dont grow. Cooked weed seed does not sprout. Cooked roots do not create plants. This technique will kill all plants in a plant bed, so do not use there. But for all pavement cracks or intended pavement, this will work. It takes a little time but generally weeds gone in a week after pouring once.
Farm grade round-up also works wonders. Neighbor had an unlimited supply that he gets from a buddy with a farm.
I'm going to use cardboard I heard if overlap it about 5 to 6 inches it works better than weed fabric
I use cardboard under mulch. It works great! However, under stones/gravel, bad idea. He is right, HIGH QUALITY weed fabric is best. Unfortunately, you'll never find it at any of the big box stores. Find a local landscaper and ask them what they use and where to get it.
Cardboard works in situations where you want a temporary biodegradable barrier to kill turf and weeds in an area in order to grow other plants. It breaks down, adding organic matter to the soil. It wouldn’t work under gravel.
@@nancymathisen9707 You are so right! It's only good for about one summer.
It does and it lasts a very long time. I use it then lay thick layer if mulch and tamp down and vòila! I open each of the box leaving the sides in tact then fold box as it wants to folded and i have 2 thick layers of a sturdy cardboard foundation. Overlap cardboard 5"-6" as you go. Simple and highly effective
Landscape rock will be a haven for weeds no matter if you install landscape fabric or not. Worse, of course, if you have no barrier. Go for a more permanent hard scape, even if you have to put it off because of the expense. I say that because in the long run, the rock will deteriorate either through weathering or weed coverage, and ends up not looking good, given the original expense.
If you have water issues gravel still might be the best option because it drains well but yes, all those nooks and crannies on top act as little planters to catch sediment and seeds. I read that regular spot salt treatments in spring can kill the weeds which is good if you can do it yourself.
There are so many types of weed fabrics. Which type do you use under rocks?
The high dollar type with fiberglass fibers or mesh. Stay clear of all others. Especially the junk from the big box stores. If you can tear it, or put your finger through it it’s garbage. Hope this helps 🌳🌳🌳
I watched this and realized the right way to do this was the way my horticulutre teacher did it... a 7" thick layer of pine straw. Anything that can come up through that, run a headgetrimmer over it or pull it up. Pine straw is free.
where do you get pine straw?
@@reneemedack7865 My front yard. In Georgia/SOuth, there are pine trees everywhere. Lnad was clear cut at one time, and planted into pine tree deserts which are abandoned for 40 years until the lumber company comes back. You coudl fill your truck with the stuff.
But use what you got where you are. Everything's a resource. If you have no pine stray, rake up leaves. It's all biodegradable overwhelmingly carbon that will block out the light and starve the surface of nitrogen to keep weeds from growing under it. I guess you could also use straw, or lawn mower clippings, wood chips, sawdust, etc.
I did use landscape fabric first on my pathway to my patio and I got grass, weeds and ant hills coming up through it. I had to resort to a strong dose of weed and ant killer spray. I made a feature area on the bend of my pathway and that I had to redo. The pathway was made this spring. What a nightmare! I had to wash the rocks through a piece of screen and this time I laid down a triple layer of fabric, sprayed it with the bug and weed killer and put the white rocks back down with some new ones on top for a thicker layer of rock. Hopefully this time is a charm. I never had done a landscape project before and had watched a number of videos first. Removing the 6” deep layer of sawgrass was a killer job but it was was worth the effort! I get compliments from my neighbors and visitors all the time. If I had it to do over though, I would have tripled the fabric along the whole path instead of having to resort to the sprays.
Remember this, growing material is deposited over your fabric all the time. Either through rainfall or wind and it only a small amount of it for seeds to sprout.
I used old hefty trash bags to kill weeds and grass before starting a new flower 🛏. Haven’t had a stray weed in that bed in over seven yrs.
@@mariombrbovic8188 growing up we had a small family farm for our use only and the gardens were quite large. My dad would buy rolls of heavy plastic at Agway and we’d cover rows in between the plants with it and only had to weed between the plants. It held in the moisture and we hardly had to weed anything. I didn’t even know what landscape fabric was then. I did consider using garbage bags and now I wish I had but I thought I was doing it right because that’s what all the videos here were using. What’s done is done. I did have to redo my feature area and I used roofing paper this time which made for a very level bed for the rocks and planter boxes and should hold up for a long time.
@@mariombrbovic8188 true, and it did happen so I had to resort to weed killer over the whole pathway
That's what I did in our vegetable garden. I put down double and even triple layer of weed fabric and about four inches of mulch. It's been over a year and works great. Eventually the mulch will decompose and need replacing otherwise it will turn to soil and some weeds etc will grow on top.
I used weed fabric and cardboard in my front yard and I still have weeds popping up through certain areas. I pull them every time I see them and put weed and grass spray on them. Weeds are relentless!!!
What?! I was going to do the same, adding cardboard on top of fabric. That's some steroid weeds!
It does help , it’s not coming up everywhere, but boy was I pissed when I saw it, lol!
If you don’t, weed will be 10x of what you have now.
Use Preen to prevent weed seeds from growing.
Roofing shingles that how I did my and is looking good
Go to your local farm supply store. Buy several sacks of animal feed salt. Put a thin layer of salt under your rock or on top after the rock is spread. No weeds, ever.
thnx..on the weed control for landscaping
If salt leaches into your lawn or plant beds, it will render the soil useless until it's flushed out by rain or watering.
Could you lay down thick plastic and then gravel/rocks for landscaping! I love the rock idea around the home like under a deck.
Sure comes in handy if you ever need to take the rocks, etc. back up though!
Probably quickly done landscaping done for curb appeal to sell the house. Real Estate agents don't care what happens to cheap landscaping a year later.
I have a 28 ft. x 32ft. In which I don’t use either weed block fabric or mulch . And it takes not ten minutes a week to keep it weed free!
Do you spray weed killer?
thanks for this...i bought a house last year...and they fudged wood chips make over.....and wore off completely this year with hevy rains.....now i have to strip 3 inch of chips and mulch an relay the tarp....gonna be at least $3,000-5,000 to relay tarp and im going with rocks
Hopefully you went with proper drainage too, if you lacked it. Otherwise you're getting washed out regardless of what you do
I use a roofing torch and propane bottle wherever I can
Just use a pre and post on it
I hate landscaping rock. When you want to plant something nice it's heavy to shovel and hard to dispose of.
I clicked on this video because I thought I was going to see on outtake from Modern Family. This dude is Mitch's twin.
What if the crushed stone is 10'' deep?
What if i use cheap roadbase and compact it down then put the nicer looking rock on top. The weeds would have 2 layers of compacted rock to go through.
Im wondering about this also.. Did you try it or use fabric.
I think its only good for under walk paths, creating patios. But its useless in flower beds. We bought a house and they used this stuff. Its hard to cut when you are trying to replant. And Even with the fabric weeds still come out. I even tried to spray weed control which partial works. just get a weed wacher and go to town on them. What iv notice is let them grow a bit than whack them. They die right after.
So suggest a weed barrier that’s not going to be destroyed in 10-15 years! Please don’t suggest Dewitt because that stuff sucks! I’ve used straight pea gravel that helps keep the weeds down but weed barrier after you’ve been in one house for 10-15 years is like having no mulch at all! Mulch with no weed barrier is much easier to maintain!
Weeds germinate in a crack of concrete. 610 limestone base pack takes care of sinking. Weed fabric is crap. Roundup with soil sterilizer is a better route
Spent two days redoing my landscape rocks because I didn’t put weed fabric down. So much fun power washing Georgia red clay from all my rocks. Weed fabric under rocks is the only way to go.
What type of fabric do you recommend for a pea stone patio. Woven? Thanks
I've rarely seen so many comments in disagreement with a video.
I've used old carpet.....works great
Carpet is good but it gets moldy and if there is to much it will affect your indoor air quality and some molds are hazardous
Dug up an area for a rock garden.. laid down the landscaping tarp weed + grass is still growing through.. currently looking for a video on what to do 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
I have weeds even though I put fabric. They find their way up!
High quality weed fabric works for a while but, in certain areas, dirt will accumulate on top of rock creating a wonderful new place for weeds to grow... ugh.
weeds still come up above fabric over time ,did a driveway weeds not as bad
can you say, "Ortho Ground Clear?"
Which weed fabric do you use for rocks?
Will land planing the area once or twice a year pull the rock back to the surface and lift the weeds?
Ok, so why did they put all of that rock everywhere? Why not concrete, or pavement, or pavers? People do some stupid stuff…and it’s ugly on top of everything else.
Even with the fabric, where it overlaps, the weeds make their ugly self through.
The original owners of our present house used roofing felt under the bull rock. Unfortunately, that stuff doesn’t let much water through, so plantings in the rock don’t flourish much. We started digging up the felt and found TWO layers of it in some places! We removed all of it and put down a nice layer of mulch. The plants are doing much better now.
I know isn’t your job to find a good fabric for weed barrier but would be nice if you provide one of the best fabric to fight those weeds .
Thanks for the advice.
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What are you even talking about. This job failed because there's no roadbase, they lay it on dirt. Has nothing to do with weed fabric
Oh well maintain it
Exactly. You can't spray weed killer faster than it takes weeds to grow? Besides, I've literally seen other videos saying exact opposite about weed fabric; namely that is IS a waste of money because dirt will eventually settle into the cracks of the gravel.
@@RonOnTheGrill weed fabric does not work at all ever. Also do not spray weed killer. You are spraying poison that causes cancer. Just use mulch/wood chips and pull the weeds by hand. They don't have any grip when they grow in wood chips and a newborn infant could pull them out with 2 fingers.
Weed fabric just plainly sucks, weeds always find a way to come through. One of the best ways is go to a lumber yard and ask then for the plastic covering the wood is wrapped in. Best part besides no weeds, is it's free.
Nope, only works for about 2 years.
What type of weed fabric do you recommend for rocks
Weed fabric definitely slows down weeds.
What weed barrier fabric do you recommend? Thank you!
Any commercial grade fabric will last 8-10 years. Don’t buy big box store trash unless you plan on putting 3-4 layers thick
Cardboard and weed fabric
Why wouldn't you use a neutralizer nothing grows...
I use weed fabric and cover that with plastic.haven’t had weeds in 6 years
I made this mistake. When weeds start popping up, I pull them or use weed killer
Weed fabric is a waste. They all fail- I just cleaned out 3 layers of this crap from the previous owners. Replacing with rock and just use a weed torch!
So, as long as you don't drive a vehicle on the gravel, our fabric might last a while. Gravel tears holes in weed fabric. Period. Don't argue with facts.
why would you lie on your title ""Skip the Weed Fabric, Waste Your $$"" but you tell people to always use weed fabric..???
Clickbait, how else would he get us to watch?
I have a pathway with the same rocks and have weed fabric and weeds still grow, what can I do about that?
No preen
cant you just use a torch a burn away the weeds
Concrete painted green LOL
the title of the video does not match the lecture
Garden fabric is pure shit, unless you’re using it under Rocky surfaces. Green and gardens are not it
i think your time frame is a little off there buddy. your saying 1-2 yrs you wouldnt be able to tell it from the back yard. umm yea bullshit more like 10-12 years or longer
There are far better ways to landscape an area than the, IMO, unattractive type of rock shown in this video. Landscape fabric is a bad choice environmentally for anyone concerned with soil health, no matter what covers it. It’s convenient in situations where no in ground growing is ever envisioned, such as pathways around nursery benches. Ditch the plastic.
...and use what. Doing my research now and looking for alternatives.
@@CletusEinstein, check out Charles Dowding’s CZcams channel. Wood chips make an excellent mulch which is very inexpensive or free if you get them in bulk from an arborist.
Bottom line is weed fabric, while not perfect, is the best way to go. The benefits outweigh the risks. Also makes it easier to move the rock later if needed.
Great content. Keep it up! Would you like to be CZcams friends? :]
I enjoyed your video :) Keep it up! Would you like to be CZcams friends? :)
Define weed fabric. High quality landscape fabric absolutely does not work. Weeds and especially Bermuda will come right through the fabric.
I put cardboard under the weed fabric Free cheap and easy and will compost over time