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This case happend in the very hospital I was born and Tunbridge Wells is my home town. I saw Eleanor Neal's video on this and my jaw hit the floor when I first watched it!
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“ when i die leave me in the woods. the wolves will be more gentle than any man. “ there are no words for this case
Whose that quote by? I’ve actually been considering letting myself be eaten by Wolves or Coyotes(I’m not sure that we have any wolves in Central Texas, lol, and I’d prefer to be eaten close to my home) after I die as a sort of commentary on my disdain for vegetarians and their silliness, but I’m not 100% on committing to it yet, 😂
@@TylerMcL3morethere's a difference between wolves and humans, though, lol. A person can survive without meat and not even need any supplements (though they will need animal products like dairy and eggs), but a wolf cannot.
I'd like to rot away and be consumed by creatures when I die, too. It'd be lovely to be buried in my garden, or in a nearby forest. I wish there were more ways to do that legally, but I understand to an extent why corpse disposal is regulated quite strictly.
Didn't that rock spider who was very famous with ties to Prince Andrew also abuse hospital patients with mental instabilities, who also was given full access to the hospital, he even moved a caravan there to be closer to his prey.... At least these poor people had a voice, my heart broke thinking of someone who struggled with painful emotions related to acute depression who subsequently took their own lives, only to be horrendously violated sexually in the afterlife....
This Putrid human deserves to remain outside of God's grace and light eternally, though I've absolutely no doubt that he has been on his knees begging forgiveness since he realised his gig was up....
@@snackaddict77 Did you mean rock "star"?
@@8rr725 He meant rock spider, but that's nowhere near accurate enough to describe Jimmy So-vile.
I love that in spite of years of exposing herself to the worst crimes imaginable, Danielle still calls out filth for what it is. We love a morally correct queen ❤️
All those likes and no comments lemme fix that! Also I concur
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Agreed,... When you know one thing they did to poor Baby P.... I couldn't sit through any documentary about them people.
RIP
@@yasminsharif1975that’s what bailey sarian calls youtube 😂
TWELVE YEARS?!?!?!? FOR THIRTY YEARS OF HEINOUS ATROCITIES?!?!?! despicable
I suspect the plan is to let the other inmates deal with him. They usually do.
@@Nonsequitoria2010 Hopefully,they don't.And if they actually could, do you realize that it would be the worst inmates who would abuse the less hardened criminals, rather than the other way around?You intend to count on murderers and rapists to enact a fair justice? Good luck with that.
@@olivierdastein2604in Britain drug dealers (who get similar sentences) and other similar criminals do deal with these types of people idk how it works in the US
@@mehmeh-yu7eo People *believe* that it commonly happens, both in the USA and the UK. Fortunately, it rarely happens in fact, and authorities separate people who might be targeted from the general population. You dont entrust justice to criminals. And anybody in a position of authority who would let this happen should be sentenced extremely heavily, IMO. We have courts of law instead of lynchings for a reason.
@@olivierdastein2604 I do agree with you tbh, its hard with cases like this but I do agree
I find it difficult to understand why we are paying to keep this individual alive.
Because people care more about protecting a monster than the victims
@@lurkinlikeabossnonsense.
It costs around £50k a year to house a prisoner. Some people definitely don't deserve to have that £ spent on them and their care.
@@chadUCSDhow much does an execution cost? In the US , a life sentence costs less at the end of it all.
100%% Does the death penalty exist in the UK? If any case constitutes the death penalty, its this one.
Going from sexual assault, to murder, to necrophilia in ONE ATTACK is quite an alarming escalation…
Actually it happened to my sister in law, by an exboyfriend. We've never really processed this, a lovely girl just gone, and the terrible things after. His only explanation was "if I can't have her, no one else will". His family were broken, too.
@@lat1419that's awful im so sorry for her family. i hope they're able to find good counselors.
@@machinegurlll Hahah good counselors in the UK are like unicorns.
Bro going from 0 to 100 real quick.
@@rizkiramadhan9266 He was already stalking and a peeping tom so not really 0. Went from a steady 100 starting in his teenage years to 200 suddenly.
Of all the cases of necrophiles and pedophiles covered, this is the worst ive ever heard of. Being a nurse, I'm just disgusted by his acts and my heart breaks for all the victims involved. OMG that 9 year old girl 😭
That made me cry too. Especially the disrespect of him taking her clothes and toys. WTF???😢
By his arts?!
Yikes!!
@@sweetmissypetuniawilson9206I just starting so I’m confused, is it a typo? Acts maybe.
@@Ida-Adriana ya Idk which is why I pointed it out.
Thought op would make a correction. 🤷♀️
I haven't listened I'm just starting..it sounds disgusting
Makes one wonder just how often this sort of thing goes on in hospitals and morgues. There can't be only one weirdo who's this demented. Absolutely sickening.
Kenneth Douglas. Arthur Rathburn was sick for another reason.
When I was attending a Health Care course years ago, my instructor was a Nurse and told the class that a man who transported bodies to the morgue of the Hospital she worked in at the time was fired for doing something suspicious to the bodies. Now Hospitals have a strict policy that must consist of 2 people to do this job. I myself who worked at a large Hospital had to go with a transport worker to take a body to the morgue. It was a night shift and they didn't have any other transport staff available to go with him. So I had to go; a health care assistant who worked on the ward. So the policy had to be strictly followed.
@@forsakenjones4695 Personally, I don't think that's good enough. I think there should be CCTV cameras in every room. I know that sounds crazy, but I'd rather be embarrassed than assaulted.
Well we know Jimmy Savile was another one...
Yeah, what the heck was he doing living in a hospital? I'm American, so don't know as much about this Jimmy Saville story. Was he also being a necrophile? @@CB-xr1eg
The fact that so many people heard women calling out for help. What was certainly the most defeating and desperate crows they’ve ever heard and decide not even to put in a report.. or call 911
Yup what the fluff. Everyone just went back to bed. Cowards
I was heavily abused for 3 years in the flat I lived in with my bf at the time, by my bf at the time. It was a block of 40 flats. We shared walls with people. I know they could hear me screaming. I nearly died multiple times. No one ever tried to help.
I will never turn a blind eye.
@@HussyHarryetsame. Never heard a peep out of the neighbors. Not even a call to the cops. I expected that at least but I think they were into drugs and didn’t want the cops around at all; no matter if someone nearly died.
@@HussyHarryet That's because you stayed with your abuser. After awhile neighbours just see it as another day of screaming and shouting from the same occupants cohabiting next door. Don't blame the neighbours when you could've left after the first, second or 10th time. 🧐
Nice victim blaming there. Societal issues compund the difficulty and danger in leaving. @@tantalize5795
My grandmother died at the Tunbridge Wells Hospital in Pembury in 2001. The feeling of your stomach dropping when you realise that your grandmother’s body could have been abused by a hospital staff member is absolutely horrendous.
I am sorry for your grandmother, my mum was there in july so i know how you feel. sadly we will never know the truth xxx
Your better of not noing. Just remember them as they were. ❤ sorry for your lose. ❤
I hope this is reassuring, but in 2001 David was working at the Kent and Sussex hospital, not at the Tunbridge Wells hospital in Pembury, so it’s likely your grandmother rested peacefully while she was there ❤
My mum was in Pembury hospital morgue for 6 weeks about 4 years ago now and yes it is better not knowing, she was a very caring nurse all her life and that i am very proud of her xxx love you mum xxx
@@bryony1235 i hope so but I also lost my great grandmothers in Kent (can’t remember which hospital as I was a young child in the 90’s). We were contacted by the police but nothing ever came of it, so I don’t know…
How was he not sentenced two years for EACH victim?!?!??
England is IMO soft on crime, as is canada
@@lisaliza7009 so is Australia!! It’s maddening.
@@lisaliza7009Being "hard on crime" doesn't stop crime happening. The only thing that does that is a focus on rehabilitation rather than retribution (although a small number of people cannot be rehabilitated and are incompatible with society), and lots of funding for social programs to keep people out of poverty and desperate situations (most crime is the result of poverty).
@@4nn4h respectfully, I disagree with some of your points. I thinks lots of crime is fueled by addiction. I agree social programs are important so is not encouraging pregnancies before stability. Rehab should be offered in prisons but you must draw the line at violent crime. In those cases I do not believe rehabilitation is the main goal. Not giving early parole and housing violent sexual offenders away from the rest of society, not ineffective rehab and release to reoffend. Stealing and property crime is one thing. Rape assault and murder are quite over. But you rational polite opinion is appreciated and respected, just don't agree with it for violent offenders
Bull. People who stay locked up dont reoffend.@@4nn4h
Person who worked in HR for a health service told me ( a few years back) that for every one of these people you hear about, there's another 8 or 9 that you don't. Just quietly sacked.
That's horrifying. I think the worst part though is that I believe it without a single doubt.
Incredible that doing this for 20 years nobody ever walked in on him.
My thoughts exactly. Even if he was able to lock the door, you'd assume there were cameras. Which maybe there were, just no one thought of a reason to check them. Smh
Jimmy Saville did similar crimes and was even walked in on yet he was never convicted so this guy was at least taken off the streets of this we can truly be thankful
@@barryabell5410 Indeed. I would go so far as to say that of the two, Saville was possibly the more sick. Leaving hundreds or maybe thousands of living victims scarred, and confused. I have seen video of him putting his hands where they shouldn't be on women so blatantly that the women just don't know what to do, made me sick to watch.
The video mentioned that he was making sure to transport the bodies without being in sight of one of the cameras.@@amybishop666
@@amybishop666 She actually showed a map of the hospital in the video. There were no cameras in the autopsy/examination rooms to "protect patient integrity." David took this job because he knew that he could take full advantage of it. He would have only been seen entering and exiting the morgue.
I work in a mortuary and this case has caused so much extra security around where we work. I’m not sure why they didn’t have reduced access to the mortuary in the first place, but hopefully cases like this won’t be able to happen in the future! This awful man was not mortuary staff, we (or at least all the ones I have met) are caring, hardworking people who will always go out of our way to look after our patients ❤
It's good to know that this case has highlighted the need for tight security everywhere in a hospital and I do think these hospitals were disgustingly negligent for not monitoring their security properly. However I do also feel that it was likely because no body would ever imagine this kind of thing would ever happen. I can understand why the security they had in place seemed enough and that this monster took advantage by manipulating a system and by being a seemingly trustworthy member of staff.
It's easy to say in hindsight that I'd rather know there was a CCTV recording of my loved one's post-mortem or care in a mortuary that is stored safely and with dignity than having someone do this to them. But who would ever worry about something like this until it happens to them? I know that the staff would assume because of their respect and dignified treatment of the people in their care in the mortuary that they'd expect everyone else to feel the same. I imagine when others were around this monster showed similar respect and dignity too.
I feel so sorry for the mortuary staff for this awful violation - I feel this is a crime against them too. They were not at fault in my opinion and it shouldn't mean that mortuary workers have a black Mark against their reputation. Its the hospital management and security who are at fault here in my opinion.
Who would be on the lookout for something like this?! I'm sure it never crossed their minds because they were honest and trusting, good people. This disgusting excuse for a human was a trusted member of staff too and knew exactly how to abuse the trust of others. I'm sure the staff would have been very protective and quick to act if a stranger was hanging around the mortuary.
It's easy to pass judgement in hindsight. Unfortunately it's part of the human experience that failure is the most successful way to learn and grow. If this happens again, that's when there would be some serious fault.
I hope you and your colleagues aren't too badly affected by this in the long term. Take pride in knowing that you honour and respect the people you care for and know that this case has highlighted to the public how important you and your job is to our society. It's quite an invisible thing and something that not a lot of people think about and so you probably don't get the recognition you deserve on the whole. We appreciate you ❤
Yes, it’s hard for people like us to even think to put certain measures in place when we are normal individuals who would never do something as depraved as this man. It’s very unfortunate that often it takes something horrible to happen for improvements to be made…
But I’d like to think myself and other people in the field will be able to use this case to ensure things like this don’t happen again!! It is scary to think about what happens when we die but I’d like people to be comforted that there are people like me and my colleagues who simply want the most respect for our patients ♥️ Thank you for recognising that :)
I think he was one of the staff that cleaned the mortuary, which is why he had access (don’t quote me on that though).
@alixthompson2836 he wasn't a cleaner, he was the electrician/general handy man and would be down there to fix equipment and stuff. So not actually mortuary staff but hospital staff. I think it's ridiculous that no one questioned him visiting the morgue EVERY day. That's obviously not right.
I don't think you could do so difficult a job and *not* be kind and compassionate.
Wild that the 2 years for Necrophilia doesn't apply to each individual instance? Like, if you commit two murders, you get two separate murder charges. Messed up that a court can look at a MINIMUM of 100 cases of desecrating corpses and only give them 2 years.
Right…? It seems like such a deep injustice to the families of the victims, as if they haven’t already lost enough…
Its probably because law makers have never really had to consider how they'd prosecute and sentence a crime like this because its just so unthinkable and nobody would ever believe it could happen until it does. I feel like this case should really shine a light on how that needs to change because unfortunately as technology advances and we become more knowledgeable about these depraved people we will see more and more of this come to light. Its probably always happened (although not on this level) but it has managed to remain in the shadows and outskirts of understanding. That's the downside of us all becoming more knowledgeable and aware 😢
Right?! This is so strange to me because in cases of like rape, for example, each different person is another added count and punishment. Hell, even in cases of CP, usually the way they do it is like each individual photo is another added count (I believe- I could be wrong on that though) and so on, etc.
What I don’t understand is when you move a body or do anything further after the initial killing it’s considered abuse of a corpse. Why isn’t that what he’s being charged with for each person.
Exactly! I learned while watching a doc. About Ed Gein that not that many years ago there were no laws about necrophilia-that to me is unbelievable!
I worked in a hospital moving patients to the mortuary, this story is hearthwrenching. You have to understand that that people in this line of work couldn't fathom monsters like this, which is why it often takes a tragedy like this to bring change for the better.
The first thing they teach is dignity and respect for the patient, we would often talk to them, explain what we were doing and why, pass on our condolences and comfort.
That _anyone_ could do something so vile is beyond me. David deserves no dignity, no resect, and no comfort.
As disturbing as it is to think about how many people he did this to it’s even more disturbing to think about how many more David’s there are out there…
I cried so hard when you told us about the little 9 year old he violated.. To imagine he probably read that note, Saw the tiny baby laying on that table and still went on to do what he did is just a different level of depravity, I wish all these women and children eternal peace, What a fucking sicko
They are at peace. They felt nothing, thank God. Unfortunately, their families are left behind to suffer from his depravity.
Sick as it is they were Dead and it affected them not🤔😖
For real! My own daughter is near that age and I would be out for blood if someone did that to her.
This is a sick world.
@@saltycat662 who's evil enough that tehy would tell the family "hi your dead relative was used for necrophilia" ???????????
How can you cry over a dead body? Good grief
It always upsets me when Danielle gets emotional. She’s covered every case imaginable and talked about the most abhorrent things so I know it’s a lot when she gets choked up 😭😩
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I particularly appreciate Danielle's coverage of cases because she does demonstrate the correct level of emotion. It is real people and real crimes and she has never forgotten that and continues to show utmost respect.
Do you also get that feeling when she does the ads in that voice? “Oh my god, this one smells like Christmas… in… a… deodorant 😮😮”. Happens to me since I’ve heard those shocked inflections from Danielle so often. Definitely a fan! Cheers for your terrifying and intriguing stories, Danielle!
Yes, it's like how turbulence on airplanes is completely normal, and I only start paying attention if the flight crew seems worried 😂😂😂
She's so sweet ❤
This one made me cover my face so many times.
This man is purely from a weird strange place in hell where no man wants anything to come from
he gives me absolute shivers everywhere shivers of fear and disgust, and I'm not even exaggerating.
Absolutely despicable man.
Even if there are no cameras in the post mortem room, why didn't anyone ever realize how often David was going in the morgue? He had no reason to go into a morgue that often. Then why didn't they check the cameras to see what he was doing in there? They might not be able to see what he was doing to them, but they would have been able to see removing bodies from the coolers.
He wasn't there often, in fact.100 bodies over the course of many years means that he was acting only once in a while. And nobody was seeing him removing the bodies, or they would have been alerted. An electrician can have good reasons to be in the morgue, but not any to move the corpses.
It’s unfathomable to me that NONE of the mortuary staff noticed anything untoward was going on. You don’t notice a body-a body it’s your JOB to prepare-has been assaulted? There’s no physical evidence at all to raise any alarms…? This case is so deeply upsetting on so many levels. Thank you, Danielle, for enduring the history and sharing these victims’ stories with us all.
This is what I was thinking! But I think perhaps its just so unthinkable that even if something did seem weird, the staff would probably not allow their minds to go there. It probably didn't ever even enter their mind as a possibility. Hopefully this case means the people in this position in future will be on the lookout.
How sad to think that because of this monster, the people who have bravely chosen to do this very important yet difficult job to bring closure to families and dignity to the dead now have to add this to their mental load. I'm sure the things they see weigh heavy on their hearts and minds at times anyway without having to worry about something aa heinous as this 😢
It honestly depends. It sounds like he did make an effort to not get caught. He most likely left them in the expected prone position as if nothing happened.
Dead bodies don't bruise so if he used a condom or even clean up after any damage done may have been assumed to be done when the person was alive or covered up by what injuries/disheveled one would expect from the circumstances in which they died.
It sounds as if he did the mostly before autopsy, so unless they were looking for a murder victim, most post mortems would not be suspicious of signs of recent sexual activity.
Of course in the case of the child , you would think it would raise some questions. But chances are most attendants would assume it happened before being brought to the morgue.
Or they did notice some cases but were unsure of who might be doing it and suspected other attendants, pathology department or emergency staff/transport before thinking of an electrician.
As a nurse, I hate to say that often when you raise a concern about something seeming off or unusual, you get treated with suspicion more than management trying to get to the bottom unless it involves missing meds or some major financial liability for the hospital.
Unless someone comes into the mortuary with suspicions in place eg murder etc or there are obvious marks and keep in mind the dead don’t bruise. What exactly do you think there would be to see that the mortuary techs missed.
Also not all bodies that come to the mortuary are examined.
But thanks for putting blame on the mortuary staff, that’s a real kick in the guts for a job you probably know fuck all about.
@@threelittlepigs3059aw, the sensitivity! So you're saying someone could abuse bodies in your workplace for decades and you wouldn't notice? If that's the case, perhaps there is something wrong with the staff as a whole (tho no one seemed to be saying that initially).
@@maloryj7165 They dont examine the bodies. Unless they are there for a post mortem, which is relatively rare, they simply clean and store them until a funeral home collects them. No blame can be placed on staff, there camera placement is inline with correct policy, staff having card access to all areas, even as maintenance staff, as general staff have more access than most as they arent area specific, is within policy, the only person at fault here is sick pervert that committed the crimes.
What a disgusting man. Imagine committing disgusting acts and then being too uncomfortable to talk about it. He can rot in that prison cell he sits in.
likely when someone else mentions it, a different aspect of his mind activates and makes it more real to a point where he becomes forced to consciously reflect on what he did, and if he doesn't lack empathy 100%, it will elicit an emotional response and maybe a bit of guilt and remorse.
OR, it's just a way for his psychopath ego to defend his mind, because it makes him ever so slightly more human in the eyes of the police/judges etc. psychopaths are often good at manipulation, after all.
Do we know which prison he's in?
"Uncomfortable" can mean many things. He could also get very "turned on" discussing and describing what he did, so saying he was "uncomfortable" was a way to keep him from being aroused and giving himself away.
@@CollaborativeDog doesn't matter how he was uncomfortable. He doesn't get the right to feel comfortable after everything he did.
I fail to understand how any tampering with the corpses went unnoticed by mortuary staff, let alone not be discovered during an actual post mortem. Surely, there are some serious questions to be asked in this respect. Thank you Danielle for an excellent presentation .... & a lovely job with the makeup.
That's what I was wondering. Maybe he knew the system for which people had had their post mortem examination and were awaiting burial or cremation.
The UK has an awful lot of "over-looked" clues and evidence like this. Makes me wonder.
mad respect to the investigators who went through all those horrible materials. I felt sick even listening to the short descriptions of them, and I can't imagine what it was like literally watching them. Hope counselling was provided to all impacted.
I'm sure they probably needed intense counseling afterwards.
Absolutely can’t imagine the things they had to see 😪
Can you imagine, it's always been a dream of yours to help people by solving crimes done against them, that's your passion. You know it's going to be the opposite of sunshine and rainbows, years pass and your faith in humanity has been shredded to ribbons, but then you have to work a case like this. Probably quite a few officers and investigators had to quit just to preserve what remains of their mental health. 😔
I couldn’t do it.
You know what I thought when you said that? How can someone see all that and still be a normal person? It's got to be hard on a person's psyche.
The story of the 9 year old girl literally brought me to tears. It was absolutely heartbreaking. I can't even imagine what her mother went through. 💔
@@selenagomez12sg ?
I know. My 10 year old girl is sleeping next door and my brain won't even allow me to think too much about this. Just thinking of my daughter's favourite toys and how incredibly beautiful and innocent she is just destroys me. That poor mother and that poor sweet little angel. The only consolation is knowing how this excuse for a human will be treated in prison. I have faith that the prisoners Will take exception to sharing the same building as this monster.
@@haileyranson8255unfortunately people like this sick sick man get special treatment and are highly protected in prisons in the uk, it’s absolutely backwards! 🤦🏼♀️ if a prisoner even calls a nonce a nonce in prison they get moved from the prison and taken to a different one. It’s so fucking messed up 😢
I never thought I could be so shocked at the behavior of a human being, I had no idea that there were others out there on the level of Jimmy Saville, as a single parent of 3 I almost can't believe that a creature such as David actually exists, had it not been for you I'd have known nothing about this abomination of humanity, I salute you, your bravery to discuss the truly undicussable and let the decent folk of this world know the unimaginable depth of depravity that David reprisents. You are an angel and I salute you. Michael McCormick.
Okay, what I don’t understand is that he was constantly on CCTV footage OUTSIDE the post mortem room. How did no one put it together that he was down there WAY too often? Did he not have a supervisor who knew what actually needed fixing around the hospital and what didn’t? Horrendous. But, I wanted to say that I LOVE Danielle’s snarky remarks. My fave quote from this video, “David was a NICE guy. He didn’t want to MURDER people, he just wanted to sleep with dead bodies…”
100 bodies over the course of many years.means that he wasn't there very often, in fact. That's even assuming that someone was actually watching the footage, and it probably wasn't the case unless there was a reason for it (say, something was stolen, drugs were missing...)
HOW is a mother visiting her daughter's dead body a *COVID threat?!?!?* That's infuriating. Lock me up or I'm sitting with my dead child!!! 🤬🤬🤬🤬
There are living people who work in the hospital and morgue, that most likely what the precautions were for.
Not sure how DF got to sneak through as I assume an essential worker though.
He probably took advantage of the all hands on deck ethos in healthcare at the time. What a f-ing waste of breathe. 🤬
@@charliecamelia3601 they could easily arrange for her to visit her daughter's body without other living people in the room. Wait outside, communicate through cell phone how to get in, where her daughter could be set out for her. It's disgraceful how people were treated in their grief during that fiasco 💔💔
None of the Covid policies made sense as public health measures. It was never about that.
I agree, absolutely disgusting.
Is everyone's memory so short? COVID was used as an irrational excuse for EVERYTHING...
12 years is crazy. He should have been charged with every single offense. Such a horrible case. Thanks Danielle for presenting it with compassion as always.
12 years. thats just encouraging him. what a pathetic situation.
He got double life sentences.
@@_fsck yeah, I see they upped the sentence after he admitted to more offenses.
@@juliefregien6426
No, he got double life sentence for the murders he committed. He got twelve years for the necrophiliac crimes. Still, too few years for those decades he was active.
Imagine being the police and having to literally watch and look at all of this.
Wouldn't the morticians who were responsible for preparing the bodies for funeral services notice that they had been sexually assaulted post mortem?
Probably not, they don't do a forensic examination on bodies released to a funeral home. Furthermore morticians are not trained in recognizing that sort of thing. Some may eventually learn to recognize such things but they're only trained to make the bodies look "good" for the funerals.
That's not their job, and anyway dead people can have had sexual activity before death so it wouldn't mean anything.
it’s absolutely INSANE how he had ONLY gotten those 12 YEARS for the necrophilia/cp/secret recordings, actually sickening. imagine if someone was only charged for those crimes and not the murders that gave him the life sentences , that person could continue living their life just like any other person after those 12 YEARS. sickening and disgusting how messed up the system is, this is why so much people reoffend. its crazy how little time they give for such serious crimes
Twalve years
@@dickterpene8697 TWALVE years indeed
If, that is, the prisoners didn't take care of them. Prison culture is very against x crimes.
@@John-dd8kh Gorgeous burd though.
Disgusting. 12 years doesn't even mean 12 years. He could have been let out after half that if he behaved himself in prison, unless the judge specified no parole. I hope his two life sentences were consecutive and not concurrent.
I wonder why they thought it was necessary to notify the families. Maybe they could have given them an option? “Some bodies were abused while your loved one was at this hospital, do you want to know if your loved one was among the ones abused?” I would absolutely want to die if I found out my little girl’s toys and my note were taken off her while a man sexually abused her poor sweet little body.
I think they deserve to know if something like that happened to a loved one
i thought the same thing but after thinking for a little while i couldnt imagine anything worse than not being informed and then some friend or random third party approached me knowing all about it, asking questions or something realising i was the last to find out etc..
Victim impact statements in court would strengthen the case for better hospital security protocols
And also the criminal needs to face the people he has hurt. He chose dead people because they can't fight back.
So the living must fight for them.
As horrible and painful as it may be. I would like to know for that reason.
I wouldn't want to know.
@@sillycheese301I don't think they deserved any additional grief. This was purely for legal expediency.
As far as I'm concerned, if it can be avoided, best for the families to not know. The victims are already dead, so it's not like they're going to live through any trauma of being violated post-mortem. I wouldn't want to know about it.
Horrific case. He is really a disturbed man.
It made me sick to my stomach, but what my emotions couldn't handle was when the police had to inform the victims families of what had happened. It broke me down crying. NOBODY should EVER have to tell others about something like that, and NOBODY should be on the receiving end of that conversation 😭😭😭
Danielle covers the most difficult cases with such elegance and humility and shows such genuine respect for the victims involved. Thank you 🤗
I love the fact the UK doesn't just close a cold case because it's cold, and that kept them man from continuing his reign of hospital terror longer than what he would have gone had they not found the DNA match. This case truly got to me, and I teared up with you Danielle, this one is horrific and heartbreaking to the max. Thank you for sharing and having such amazingly kind words to the victims and their families at the end of your videos. It really shows your heart of gold!
I agree. I know in a lot of cases the police fall short of what we expect but these officers did an unbearable job with an incredible amount of dignity. I feel so sorry for them for having to see what they have but so proud of these officers for doing it anyway to bring justice to the victims and their families. Its nice to watch a case that makes me feel proud of our police because despite all of the awful stuff we hear about police misconduct regularly it means that the thousands of officers who are out there daily doing us proud without recognition are brought into the spotlight. They probably feel worse than we do when they see all of the awful stuff about other police in the news and face discrimination because of those terrible examples. Its probably very hard for them to keep morale up in the current climate.
Of course the terrible police behaviour and misconduct should be brought to our attention and should be dealt with. The sad thing is that the police staff that go about their careers doing nothing but good day in, day out don't get recognition or praise on the level that they deserve. Their dedication and hard work is overshadowed by all of the officers and higher ups that are despicable and disgrace our forces.
So to any police or families of police who may read my comment - well done and the public are so proud and grateful to you and we do see and recognise the tireless hard work you do in cases like these ❤
to be fair cold cases are often re-opened in the US as well
Allegedly Only 2% of these so-called "Cold Cases" are Ever Solved, here in America.
I wonder what that Percentage of ultimately Solving these types of cases is in the UK?
The USA 2% seems like a Shamefully Low rate of ultimate success! Cold cases are Not Re-Opened nearly Often Enough here in the US.
Since they are indeed Officially CLOSED, the case Evidence is Archived. Victims & those Victims' Families are typically gradually forgotten, with the passage of time. UNLESS those Familial Victims CONTINUE TO PRESS the Police to Re-Open the case - and sometimes, even when those families DO Champion their loved one's case & press Hard for continued investigation - here in the US, very Little ever seems to happen with the Vast majority of Closed "Cold" Cases.
As I said before, I wonder what that Percentage of ultimately Solving these types of cases is in the UK? where all unsolved cases remain Open & are periodically Reviewed? It would be interesting to know whether these two quite disparate approaches to police work ultimately result in significantly different rates of cases being actually Solved?
Because the Police have Closed the cases, families Here in the USA must resort to hiring private investigators (PIs) to Find new evidence & they must then PRESS the Police to FORMALLY RE-OPEN their loved one's Case, in order for the police to even be able to officially Investigate that new evidence.
The many families who cannot financially afford to hire a PI - which is the majority of American families? They are Simply Out of Luck! (That's a clean version of "SOL").
Wtf is up with that *entire* community of people who just didn’t report anything? Like, the whole area knew there was a creep going around and no one filed a police report? Asked if an officer could look out for a night or two? They *heard* the screams, but didn’t say anything??? 😕
I had to rewind it after you said he got 2 years for 30 years of necrophilia. I didnt think I was hearing correctly. What kind of trash is that?!!
I love that she tried so hard to prononce turkish names, and she did a really god job too! not a lot of native english speakers could do that.
Sadly this is very much too close to home. You did his victims proud. Scumbag. I know first hand the misery this beast has caused!!!🤬🤬
Genuinely sorry to hear that. 😢 - Were you a family / friend of one of the victims?
@@daniplat4462i would say they're either friend / family of a victim, OR they worked at one of the hospitals
I'm sorry for whatever happened that made this case close to you. 😢
So sorry you are going thru this 😢❤
I understand your pain, one of the victims was a relative.. the impact these monsters have is impossible to imagine 😢
my sister went to school with his son and we lived so close to him when he was arrested, it shook everyone in tunbridge. the way you explain what happened in these videos are always so respectful.
Saville had a free pass to UK hospitals posing as a Porter plus doing charity work and abused in full sight, even on TV. - Keir Starmer, now leader of the Labour Party in uk, was Chief Public Prosecutor and got Saville off with “lack of evidence”. Shortly afterwards he was given a knighthood. Makes you wonder.
I'm sorry and my heart goes out to the families that this sicko violated their deceased loved ones. However I couldn't help but to think "At least he's not murdering innocent women any more. " I know that's a horrible thought and violating the dead is no better. But I just can't help but to think at least no one else has to lose their lives and family members didn't have to suffer because of him!
I pray ALL of the families were able to find some comfort in knowing he has been caught and will never be able to do this to anyone else ever again. And I also pray that all who have lost their lives because of him and those that didn't lose their lives due to him but were violated by him, are resting in peace.
I can't find a word strong enough to describe how disgusted I am 😢
The victims and their families are all that matter. He's a vile excuse for a human.
He gave his humanity away a long time ago. I can't find the right words, but I feel like evil mutant is the closest I can get. This thing became a demon. I agree with you, the victims and their families are the ones who matter.
Even in DEATH women don’t get peace. This case broke me. Take care of yourself Danielle. You do such taxing work. 💜💜💜
By talking about her own personal thoughts about crimes and not only facts?
Don’t like videos like this where the talker makes her own thoughts around how people thinks and feels and then ad facts, it’s disrespectful to the victims in my mind.
@@Anders76what are you on about
@@Anders76Agreed.
@314Juicy "Taxing work"? Apart from research: 21:32 "1987. DNA was not exactly a thing really." Discovered in 1869; forensic DNA analysis & testing in 1984; first DNA fingerprinting in 1986!
29:22 "It's 1987, DNA evidence & investigation doesn't really exist right now ." 🤦♂️
@@Anders76Due to the morbid curiosity of human beings usually outweighing their potential for empathy & critical thinking, and who are all praising Danielle for how she "cares for all the victims" she talks of, no one here will admit you are correct because they haven't looked at themselves enough yet to realise what is morally higher, as their curiosity wins over. They won't admit they find all this horrible stuff fascinating. It's because it's not their victim relative she is talking about! 😉 No true empathy, but pretending to have it!
How Danielle was smiling when talking of one of the victims getting with a boyfriend and looking forward to life is fake AF. She's dead anyway plus Danielle never knew her. A bit twisted to act so happy for nothing, especially in this context!
I don't know why, but the CZcams algorithms suggested this channel and another very similar channel format called Rotten Mango over the last few days. Same thing. Scripted, yet embellished beyond poetic justice in realtime, & trying to come across as natural! It's the embellishment that is disrespectful to the families, you're right, and the fact it's only for clicks and money is sick too! 🤦♂️
Oh, and both channels misuse words & language and talk falsity due to lack of research or actual self belief in their own stupidity! And like attracts like. Birds of a feather...
Cutting crews biggest hit was 'I just died (in your arms tonight)' this sicko has given his interpretation of the song a WHOLE new meaning 🤮☹️
She was only 20 years old and her neighbors heard her screaming probably watched her get dragged to her death and did nothing about it that lets you know everything you need to about living in a neighborhood in England!!!!!
One thing I don't understand is why did the police HAD to tell the families what happened to their diseased loved ones. Clearly no one was gaining anything positive from that. It excuses nothing he had done but the people were already dead, no trauma was done to them, but the living family members would surely be traumatized or hurt in some ways by that news. Clearly hearing "your dead daughter was sexually assaulted at the morgue" can't be good on your sanity.
I agree and was thinking the same thing. Personally I wouldn’t want to know. Literally nobody gains anything. Certainly there are legal reasons why they had to share, I’m assuming people could sue claiming the hospital tried to hide it. But nah they can keep that info
Because he took pictures of some of his victims and these would more than likely have to be used in court, would you rather be told about it by a police person before hand or hear it get leaked from some other source because that's what happens, as much as its disgusting depraved and a lot of ppl may not want to know but legally its a catch 22 , my daughter was part of the organs scandle and even tho it was just slides of tissues etc etc we still had to be told about it and choose how we wanted it to be dealt with
@@theworld340that’s a good point. Can you imagine seeing a photo of your loved one leaked online and not knowing that happened to them.
Makes perfect sense when explained that way! thanks!@@theworld340
You’re quickly becoming one of my favourite channels, you’re so engaging and I love watching you do makeup while you tell these horrible stories and how empathetic you are, lots of love ❤️
The sad thing is that with both this case & Lucy Letby, one of the major reason's they were not caught earlier comes down to funding - our NHS is so drastically underfunded so many corners are having to be cut and things are being overlooked as the system is not as fully functional as the general public believe.
Danielle is such a crusader! I appreciate her efforts so much. The world needs to know! What a sicko!! Thankyou, Danielle. God bless you!
I had to stop a few times. What a monster. The young man who unalived himself after he heard about his mum makes me wonder if the police did the right thing in notifying the families. I’m thinking I wouldn’t want to know. Thank you for bringing this story to light. Horrific.
Why do they need to notify the family? This seems to be un-necessary trauma, Just be thankful he can no longer offend
They HAVE to notify the families. It's the law.
What is "unaliving"?
@MysteStorm "unaliving" means "killing". Some platforms don't allow that word to be used, so ppl say unalived instead of killed.
@@duudsuufdI don't think so. They find stolen property all the time and notify no one, at least in the us
My husband doesn't understand how scary it is when he is not home. I confessed to the maintenance man my concerns about the locks and doors. I came home the next day to brand new locks and he even cut some wood pieces for the windows so they are a lot harder to open. I cried. No one should have to feel unsafe I'm their own homes. Husband was confused but was happy that I was happy.
so now the maintenance man has keys to your house.... genius
@@cvltzillaliterally. And put blocks on the window to make it harder to get OUT. Tell your husband
@@blahxblahxblah100 paranoia is like manifesting 😂🤷🏼♀️
@falling1753 And you don't yet understand the nature of mind, which is why your own mind scares you whilst your husband is not home. You probably end up creating exactly what you don't want in life with that 'mind' set. 🤦♂️ Be well.
I'm not being facetious at all when I say I think you would really benefit from therapy. Your fears are not totally unfounded, but it sounds like it's causing you a LOT of distress and a therapist can really help you deal with and control that fear. I was the same, and am so much happier these days.
Could you imagine being a police officer having to go through that most vile stuff? I don't think I'd have the strength to do that without it breaking me. Thank you to the men and women who put themselves through that sort of thing to protect the innocent.
I love the way Danielle focuses on the victims and remembering them rather than putting all the focus on the criminal. Danielle is so empathetic to all these victims!
I work hospital security in a city that I'm convinced is a freaking hellmouth and all manner of depravity goes down in and around hospitals. You are right to question how nobody noticed his comings and goings in the morgue. At my place nobody is allowed to go into the morgue without security or specific medical/administrative supervision for a variety of reasons sadly including potential necrophilia. It's scary and disturbing how many people like him are out there. I wont say its common but its a lot more than people think.
I’m sure it’s because they won’t be rejected by the victim 😢
That’s how our hospital is. When we have to take someone down there and the morgue worker isn’t there, we have to call security to let us in. You can’t just come and go as you please. There’s also a security camera pointed directly at the door.
I know someone who had a colleague who’s partner was arrested for sleeping with corpses and he had some weird sores on him from doing stuff with a dead body.
It didn’t even make the papers.
Thomas Sheridan has written and shot a video about the deep town, which this is a great example of.
@@DC-bp8sx I've heard about that. You can get some kind of weird infection from having intercourse with corpses. Imagine your partner doing that and then coming home to sleep with you? UGH 🤢🤮🤮
What I don't under stand is why didn't this sexual abuse not show up during an autopsy??? The coroner MUST have notice SOMETHING.
This was my question! He did some BEFORE the post mortem, like how...HOW?? And no DNA collected?! There's no way he was a guy who wore a rubber. Like this is so disgusting just to type out and discuss the question we're both asking. HOW did they not see anything..I can't comprehend it.
@@emotional_anarchistif they were just normal postmortems not being done for a police investigation they wouldn’t gather DNA evidence. And remember dead body isn’t going to bruise like a live person would. If they’re looking inside to see why someone died, I don’t think they’d have any reason to examine their external genitals closely. I don’t know that for sure but that’s the only reason I can think.
That's what I was thinking
@@emotional_anarchist So disgusting. The videos too. That poor cop that had to watch those. Omfg.
My question too.
The police should never get in the way of a mother butchering their child's abuser. This case will haunt all of us for years to come, I just cant imagine what that feels like for the families. It took me a long time to watch this through the sobbing.
Sorry, what? You're saying a mother should be able to "butcher" the abuser and murder them? And the police should allow it? And what if I decide that you are an abuser of my child? I can do this too?
@@thekeysman6760if someone is PROVEN with this literal undeniable proof you think they should just idk walk free in the VERY lenient uk prisons so you’d rather them be off on their merry way rather than dead after touching a 9 year olds dead body and many many more ?
@@thekeysman6760 🤣😂👏🏽👏🏽
I comment this a lot but I love how Danielle covers these cases with so much care and doesn’t glamorize it or make jokes like a lot of other true crime pages.
Danielle, this has to be one of if not the most graphic sick case you have EVER covered. I’m trying to wrap my head around everything you just disclosed to us. My God. 😢
One of the many things I love about Danielle is how with every sponsor segment I never feel like she’s lying to us and that she actually does genuinely enjoy whatever it is and wants us to enjoy the things too.
True, though I'm addicted to June's Journey now! 😂
I just commented on that actually elsewhere on here. Yes she lies. What a coincidence she uses that deodorant for two years before they sponsored her. Same as what a coincidence she has time to play love an pies and loved that game too before they sponsored her😂
@@gilliancoe9555it’s never this serious
@@gilliancoe9555 Why do you automatically assume that she must be lying?
@@gilliancoe9555she’s also mentioned that she likes to aim for specific sponsors on things she already likes?
I'm from Tunbridge Wells and people are still getting over this, finding out their loved ones were desecrated
Glad we have the 2A in the states. Many people like this have been stopped because of it. Countless lives have been saved before a monster could create more victims or even their first. The fact that neighbors and other witnesses did little to nothing to stop him, makes me sick.
I am absolutely blown away by this case. This man is an absolute monster. The part about the 9 year old girl made me cry. The mother carefully picking out a nice outfit, the toys so she wouldn’t be alone, and the note from her shows how much she loved that child and this monster to see that and not care is beyond disgusting. I understand that most people aren’t going to see someone in a morgue and think they’re doing awful, creepy stuff but still not is a good enough excuse for having security so lax that this was able to happen for so long. Between this and the nurse case I sincerely hope these hospitals make some much needed changes.
Side note, I absolutely love your makeup in this video!! 😊💜
When I heard about this child i was sick to my stomach. You figured during an autopsy assault would have been noticed and documented. Saying this child has been done this way to cops launching an investigation to those she was around. Some innocent person could have been charged for it knowing that they didn't do it. Plus if i was security I'd have noticed this man going into the morgue so often I'd have asked what is wrong down there to need maintenance so often. Then again thats just who i am as a person. I notice stuff others don't pay much attention to. I'd have noticed if he visited several times a week especially if it was several times a day. It shows how lax everyone is at their jobs.
@@kaseys2004 autopsies aren't normally performed unless requested because they are very expensive. usually in a hospital autopsies won't be requested unless there is a discrepancy in the cause of death.
@@heyikindalikeyou true. I knew they usually skip the elderly seeing how the age plays into the factor. Though I've heard they usually do children due to how young they are. The death of a child is harder to take. I'm betting her cancer took her unfortunately (wish there were a cure.) Its just the bodies are bathed so I'm guessing he used a condom bc when a body is prepared for burial all holes are plugged to prevent seepage. (Sounds gross but it does happen, i wanted to be an embalmer.) Semen i just figured would have bern discovered either during a full autopsy or during the washing.
I know this is quite heavy to say but tbh if I found out someone messed with my dead kids body like that, I'd need to be checked into a psych ward and put on suic!de watch because that would absolutely break me. I mean already as it is, losing your child is so devastating. Having that happen on top of it, I can't even imagine what the parents went (and likely still going) through 😢
I never heard of that in the US. It's kind of customary where I am.
I find the hobbies you listed off in the beginning rather interesting.
Cycling - call back to him stealing bikes
Photography - future thing for reliving his crimes
Bird watching - watching people
he keeps one eye on the birds, one eye on the people. just look at his mugshot
@@SpyguyStudiosone eye in jail the other on bail 😅
@@Sawk_King😂😂😂
Personally I've always felt wary of men with binoculars and any male who creeps round other peoples gardens and land with boguscalibis. Creepy stuff.
I get the impression that the only reason David cried when he was caught was because he'd lost access to his precious corpses.
Honestly don't know how you got through this case, absolutely sickening 😪
May the heavenly father rest all their souls and family members who were affected along with all who had to deal with this horrific case🙏
The words of Azra’s Mother in regards to Fullers assault of her body are some of the most heartbreaking I have ever heard. They have stuck with me in a way very few have. The deep grief compounded by the disgusting violation her daughter body is just absolutely untenable. I wish for her peace.
Idk if I missed it but what did her mom say? 💔
@@caratsuji hi, I don’t think it was included in the video, but you should be able to search for it as she was interviewed for a show and that’s where I heard/saw it
@@charliecamelia3601 thank you so much! 😊
There’s still so many of us who are still in limbo not knowing if the unidentified bodies were our family members. It was shocking enough to hear on the news but for it to be the first time we were hearing it and knowing we had family members in that mortuary at multiple different times while David Fuller was there was just sickening and surreal. My heart goes out to all the families impacted by this ❤️
I hope you aren't left too long in such a horrible state of limbo, and I truly hope you aren't one of the families who have been massively let down. I'm so sorry you're in this situation. It's absolutely unimaginable. I take consolation knowing that this monster Will live in constant hell in prison as I know that his fellow prisoners will take exception to knowing he is even in the same building as them. I know they Will do whatever they can to ensure he has no peace. I understand that'll bring no peace to you 😢 However, he really will be in Hell from now and for eternity, as he deserves.
Good luck and all my love to you and all of your family ❤
this horrible story made me really sick.
Please cover Peter Connelly & ALL of the details!! That would be amazing.
These cases are so difficult and so grisly, sometimes I fear for your mental well being.
You tell a story so well, and you're so pretty. I wish I was as skilled with makeup as you. I end up looking either like a clown or like someone belted me in the eye 😂.
Love your channel, thank you. ❤❤
Human depravity has no limits,but he looked and acted so normal to most of the outside world and that probably helped him get away with his crimes for so long.
People need to stop telling themselves that "normal, everyday" people can't be monsters.
Just think of how many hide among us 😮 even people we know, may hide the worst perversions. It's a scary thought
I guess that the hospital never in a million years thought someone would be doing that to the resting souls.
An case beyond words with how horrific this inhumane monster, you handle it with dignity, thankyou for giving the voiceless a channel. Please take care of YOUR mental health too.
I've never started crying from one of these videos before. I've been disgusted, outraged, saddened, but I've never cried. The story about the 9-year-old girl and the toys and the note hit me like a freight train and I had to take a break because I started to cry. What an absolute monster. There aren't strong enough words.
Yup got me too. I am laying in bed unable to sleep next to my beautiful 2 year old son and that just broke my heart
THE WAY I CLICKED THE NOTIFICATION 😂🎉
Girl same 😂
@@KerrieStarr 😂 faster than F1 mechanics
MEEE toooo
Y'all I pulled my car over on the way to the grocery store
The click I clucked!!!
Read the title as "nacho lord" and clicked so fast. still not disappointed. 😂
Thank you, Danielle. I’m obsessed with your channel & I love how dedicated & genuine you are with every case you’ve done.. I have watched literally every single TC video you’ve made🙌🏾 I love it here.
I don’t understand why anyone who developed all the photos of the sick stuff he constantly photographed, told anyone. Also about his first murder, her neighbors saw him watching her many times, yet none of them reported it to the police or at the very least, none of them told the victim that someone had been watching her over and over. I truly hope those people feel guilty because they could have prevented her murder and the future murders he committed.
And i wonder how he could develop the photos, where, how? In '90? And they didnt see dead people on the photographs?
He would have been developing them himself I imagine. It's not that tricky and not too expensive to get set up.
@@kiciakowakalso, as early as the mid 70s, Polaroid cameras existed which printed and developed their own pictures
@kiciakowak How could he develop his photos in the 90s? Like... normally. You could've developed your photos in the 60s or any other time as well. Everywhere without access to light. In a bathroom for example. This is not something hard and expensive to do.
@@kiciakowak Developing colour film and printing the photos isn't all that complicated. It's fiddly and technical and requires some special equipment, but this guy was an electrician, so I'm sure he wouldn't have found it all that challenging.
You have been SERVING with these videos lately! So much respect & love for you, Danielle. We see the amount of dedication & work you put into this content, & trust me we appreciate it so much! Hope to see you keep up the incredible work 🥰
I was like damn 800 photos? And then you said thousand... 800,000 photos of him assaulting dead bodies? Jesus
Not possible. Most of this probably was stuff found on the internet.
What a sicko. Those poor people.
It honestly baffles me, that he only had 2 years for the necrophilia. Those poor victims, even in death they are not in peace.
Thank you Danielle, for putting so much into your videos. You put so much emotion into every single one.
The victims are the families. The bodies dont experience anything .
Thats why I dont think the families should be told.
@@satsumamoonthen ur family shouldn’t be told after u get shot that the responding police officer kicked ur face in before hauling u to the corners😂
from a CSI, you cover these cases perfectly, you have so much empathy and sympathy and i love how you talk about the evidence. you also always have the craziest cases that i’ve never heard!! i watch a lot of true crime, and almost every video you put out i’m like “how tf did i not know about this” 😂
I’m new to this channel & Danielle, and THIS is the case I watched 😮 She does a very good job of being thorough & genuine.
If that had happened to my dead family member, I honestly wouldn't even want to know. That would really mess with me.
In the US, each picture of CP and each case of necrophilia would be a count and a charge. So, if there were 100 victims at 2-years each, he could have received 200 years. The UK has a worse justice system than we do.
Your so right, I'm British and I can tell you our legal system is terrible.
This… isn’t true. There are no Federal laws against necrophilia in the USA and it’s indeed actually completely legal in many states.
The majority of States who do have specific laws against assault of a corpse have it as a misdemeanour at the most.
@charliecamelia3601 I said nothing that was false. I did not state it was a Federal crime and I did not state it was a felony. Abuse of a corpse would apply and each count would be a charge.
I really wouldn't be bragging about the US justice system..
@@jtsotheroneIkr.
In my opinion I don’t think they should’ve told the families about the necrophilia they already mourned their loved ones and possibly still struggling with their deaths and then here they come to say someone sexually assaulted their family members deceased body 😢😢
I agree with you. I wouldn't want to know.
It's a horrible situation 😢
It's probably because the ones who were identified might be talked about or had visuals used in court. They need to tell them so the family isn't shocked later.
I agree it’s not helping them to know just adding immensely to their pain.
Possibly still mourning ? The bodies are still on the morgue …I’d think they are fresh mourning their loved ones.
Why did neighbours not report, could have saved Wendy
This is deeply disturbing and so sad for the victims, the victims' families, and even for David's own family. Imagine, one day, you're going about your life, and suddenly, the police arrive and take your dad away. You then learn that your entire life has been a lie. My heart goes out to everyone who was affected by this monster.
There are so many thoughts I have about this case… But my god, can you imagine being his lawyer in court?! Having to fight for his freedom? Yuck. Terrible job.
I have a lot of respect and sympathy for the lawyers who have to do that kind of thing. They get a lot of abuse flung their way, but SOMEBODY has to do what they do in order for some semblance of justice to be carried out :/
@@4nn4hI always wondered why everyone depicted lawyers as evil but as I got older I realized why. They have a choice on who to defend they don’t deserve sympathy at all they do it for money
I’m no fan of “makeup crime” channels.
Not a bit.
But I appreciate the way you cover these cases. You reflect the anger that we all feel, while giving us the ugly truth.
I have grown to appreciate your channel.
Thank you.
Seems like you like them a little bit!🤏
I would happily still listen even if she wasn't doing the make up. I've always avoided the make up, crime channels but I do like this one. Just for the "story telling". I believe in the early years of her channel it was a make up only channel, so she made a good segway to the crime genre.
I like her voice and her compassion. Her makeup looks great too and makeup videos are relaxing to me. Her eyes always look so beautiful. I wish I could do makeup like that. It just never looks right on me.
@@talklifewithSylvia I wasn’t aware of that. I’m so glad that she’s found a good measure of success; she does deserve it.
I'm not into makeup either, even tho I'm a lady, but as weird as it is, I use her videos as a background podcast while im at work. So I don't even watch the actual video and see the makeup, I put my earphones on and just listen when there is a boring long day ahead.
I recommend trying that if you're not a fan of makeup :D
I moved back home a few years ago. I just paused at 24:00 and went to go bear hug my dad and thank him for not being a disgusting, horrible criminal.
This is absolutely INSANE
I can’t imagine finding out my daughters body was violated while mourning her loss. It would be such a vile feeling of anger while re-opening any wounds that had began the process of healing
I clearly remember this case however I didn’t know all the horrendous detail beyond the murders of those two beautiful young women in the 80s. He is one sick evil bas*ard and I hope his time in prison is the hardest that it can possibly be.
Danielle you always treat each case with such care and compassion and the end section remembering the victims is such a respectful thing to do, not only for the victims but also for the families and friends who may see these videos.
Thank you for your hard work making us aware of the details of all of these cases and the hours of research it must take to get all the details to be sure you are telling the true story as much as possible.
Imagine finding out it was your mother sister wife grandma