The Perfect Moccamaster Brew Recipe: Making Cafe-Quality Coffee At Home
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- čas přidán 5. 02. 2023
- This is a rehash of one of our more popular videos - where we lay out our thought on the perfect moccamaster brew recipe.
But this time - 3 years later - we’ve learned a lot & picked up a few tools along the way. Now, we’re here, bringing it all back for a redemption video where we REALLY dialed in the recipe.
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I like the idea of a better shower head for the Moccamaster, but I think heating up a larger mass of stainless steel will reduce your initial water temp. I am a fan of some durable plastic for this application, so it doesn’t rob as much heat from the brew water.
If the larger metal mass makes a difference, I'm sure that fanatical people will run a batch of plain water through, to pre-heat the metal.
This is awesome as I'm always looking for a better cup of coffee. I have a MoccaMaster and hoping for an Encore for my birthday. Never tried third third wave but I'm super interested! Thanks for the great vids!
New subscriber. I just bought a Moccamaster and this was incredibly helpful and informative, thank you.
Thank you for this great video, but I have one question - do the „select” switch and changing grinding setting not contradicting each other?
Also would you comment on a hand grinder vs electric for drip/pour over? Altho you used a shimmy, wouldn't a good hand grinder produce less fines? Thank u
Can we have an update on the showerhead? Also; does it drop in brewing temperature?
Thanks you!
Excellent video!! Thank you! Now considering a Fellow Shimmy as well as your shower head. Looks cool...
Hi, I have been following your channel for a couple of months and I have learned a lot...thanks. I have a Baratza Virtuoso+. Would you be able to say
what settings would correspond to the settings you are using on the Ode.
Without knowing the condition of your equip, etc - I’d recommend starting somewhere in the center and dialing in according to your preference.
Luke Thank you for the video question for you I have the exact setup other than the Ode Brew Grinder Gen 2 stock burr and curious on the GRIND SETTING number? I was surprised how low you went with Ode Gen 1
Sifting out the fines enables him to go that low.
Luke, I'm surprised you suggest using distilled water and then adding a Third Wave Water Packet to get the perfect blend of mineral water. The Moccamaster instructions say, "We do not recommend using reverse osmosis filtered water or distilled water, as it can damage the brewer's boiling element."
Thanks for this. I am enjoying my Moccamaster , Encore, Thirdwave combo. Still on the hunt for the right coffee! That shimmy unit is interesting.
Shoot us a DM, would love to send you some
The shimmy thing seemed cool but immediately I thought "really?! One more 'thing' to spend MORE money on?! Why can't the damn grinder just grind in a fashion that does not produce ground coffee that is inferior and requires further manipulation...?"
@@RaymondRAYCEALL grinders produce fines.
Just ordered some coffee. My new machine is on the way. Always looking for the best cup of coffee.
Interesting.
Is there a reason you used 1 liter of water instead of 1.25 liters. . . ?
At a ratio of 60 grams of coffee to 1.0 liter of water, the amount of coffee increases to 75 grams for the 1.25 liter full pot.
Are there concerns of overflow?
Thanks.
Mixes his own blend of water. Eyeballs the amount 🥲
😂
Dumb.
Just tried your decaf……the biggest fan
The filter says to fold the edges and I notice you don't do this. Is there a reason?
Can you make a single cup of coffee? Or is it only 1/2 or full pot as the options to brew?
It's a bit confusing, but a """half pot""" is enough for one decent sized mug of coffee... equivalent to *16 ounces* of coffee (pint glass) or *a 'large' coffee at McDonald's.* For me that's about 1 serving (therefore the smallest amount I'm likely to brew).
There are several lines marked on the reservoir -- the lines are marked '2,4,6,8,10' and you multiply those by 4, to get the equivalent volume in ounces:
2=8 ounces (only about half a mug of coffee, LOL)
4=16 ounces (~half pot, decent mug)
6=24 ounces (~half pot, extra large mug or travel mug, etc.)
8=32 ounces (two large McDonald's coffee cups)
10=40 ounces (full pot)
As far as the settings on the brew basket, the model I have only has 'fully open, for a full pot', 'half way open for a half pot', and 'closed to prevent dripping or to bloom'.
If you want to make a very small amount, I highly suspect you can use the brew basket from the Cup One model, which has a small hole to change brew timing for only one cup, and is designed to make 10 ounces of coffee. Or something like a standard plastic Melita pour over cone basket that uses #2 filters (haven't tried it yet, but it fits on the brew basket shelf on the Technivorm -- might need rubber bands to secure it).
Greetings from Germany. We have the Moccamaster for several years now, grind the beans and receive very good results. So, that Shimmy caught my attention and I would Like to know wäre to buy it. Thanks also for your interesting Video. Don
A true German would make their own Shimmy, out of billet tool steel, to precise dimensions (ten thousandths, obviously). Nice try, though!
Appreciate the tip on the shaker. A year since you posted, but I had’t seen it. Looks like they sell it directly, but those carrying their other gear don’t.
Could you advise me of the correct grind setting on the Breville Pro Grinder now I am using setting #43 and it seems OK.
I was using 46 but I just bought the Ode gen 2 and use that now.
@@Veggiebonbon Thank you, do you like the Ode gen 2 much better than the Breville
@@mikesabran well, I think I do, but I am merly a coffee enthusiast. I wanted to get it try try out the flat burrs vs the Breville conical ones. I definitely enjoy the ode gen 2 and am please with my purchase but if it’s not in your budget to upgrade, the smart pro is still a great grinder.
Just as an fyi: the water reservoir line that you refer to is 4 cups/16 oz/473 ml. You'll need to fill slightly above that line to reach 500 ml.
I'm looking forward to your new stainless steel showerhead.
I had the same thought… that’s not right
The recipe seems to be 'to the line' and the part that is in error is him saying '500mL', instead of 16 ounces (which is called 4 """cups""", by Technivorm).
It must be different for the brewers with the thermal carafe. The lines correspond to liters on mine (line 1 is 250ml, 2 is 500ml, etc).
Where is the stainless steel shower head or the 3d printed shower head
We paid real $ and no word or product from you. Please advise.
Is there any prep for a first brew? Should we run a cycle with just water
I see no downside to running a cycle with plain water... it will wet the filter and pre-heat the outlet arm.
Aside from taking an extra 4 minutes...
Brilliant
Technivorm in their user manual suggests a courser grind size compared to normal Drip grind size ? 😮
Great video. How would you adjust the recipe for decaffeinated? It tends to brew slower.
...by drinking caffeinated
WOW--new subscriber to your channel. Learned so much, feel like I enrolled in "coffee university"--just beginning my journey towards better coffee. Thanks for all you do!
Luke,
Isn't half of the capacity of this machine 5, not 4 cups since the full line reads off 10 cups?
Perhaps, and it should be noted that 4 Technivorm """cups'"" is actually only 16 ounces, not 32 ounces as you would expect.
Also, there's no line for 5 cups... but there are lines for 4 and 6 cups, etc.
10:00 the shot of the coffee pot went from 1/4 to almost 1/2 full.
I seen that👀
i’m surprised you didn’t remove the jug at the start for the bloom or allow any steeping, or turn off the power for the initial bloom.
is all that unnecessary in your view?
Gotta be honest...but when you stirred the grounds, the grounds already looked like they were being evenly saturated. I get the flaws with the brew head design not being a true shower head....but I can't imagine it makes that much of a difference unless you're making a large brew with a lot of grounds in the basket. Smaller brews seem to get evenly saturated just fine.
The only disappointment with the moccamaster is water dispersion. Agitating the grounds really does make a significant difference. I went as far as buying a second arm and using an ice pick to redirect the water ejection. It helps, but I'm looking forward to trying the prototype spray head.
Bravo on this video! You got a new sub from me! I recently made a Latte on my page too and *your dish looks amazing!* Hope to stay connected my fellow chef! 😁
While you did all this I ran to Dunkin and bought a cup of coffee and donuts…made it back for the finish. 😅
This machine is for coffee much better than Dunkin’
I made a video for all my Facebook friends showing all the different little facets and ways to brew a cup of coffee with my moccamaster and I have the ODE V2 as well to help with the grind sizes and the Perfection as I call it of a cup of coffee🎉
So, it is there any recipe that doesn't waste finely ground coffee ?
you can set it aside for making Turkish coffee later?
Since you turn the system off after brewing, why wouldn't it be better to buy the carafe version to keep the coffee hot?
The carafe version doesn't come in that pretty pistachio color😁
I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think any of the thermal carafe versions have the switch that slows down the brew process.
I have a KBT model, and it doesn't have that switch.
Hype beast flex with the jound ceramic... Hmmm lol
That’s a fine grind, right? That’s interesting because Technivorm recommends a coarse grind.
Grind setting is not universal for all roasts and volumes brewed.
Lesser amounts, as well as lighter roasts, need a finer grind.
Additionally, sifting allows him to grind much finer than he ordinarily would.
You likely would not want to go that fine, if you did not sift out all the super fine particles. If you ground that fine, and did not sift out all the super fine particles, like he says, in the video, you would experience harness and muddyness in the cup.
Any update on the brew arm?
Currently being produced! The pre-stainless launches are headed out the door - slowly. It takes us about 19.5 hours to produce each one. Stainless, we should see this spring!
V pumped for these stainless brew arms
Also want stainless steel as well 😊
Keep us posted
I use RO water. Do you think third wave is still necessary?
I use a lido 2, guess I gotta keep messing with it
I use my grind size at 7 on the Fellow gen2 can’t imagine setting it at 1! WOW
Gen 2 is definitely a different setting!
I have the same Gen 1 fellow ode with Gen 2 fellow burrs, and I've used 7 as well for grind settings. Isn't 1.9 to fine for the moccamaster?
@@Coffeehaus So you recommend setting 1 for Drip coffee? thanks
I was thinking the same thing! I’m at a few clicks above 5 on my gen 2 fellow
Me as well
Too many steps for me to do on a daily basis. I've got that coffee maker. Though would be interested in the brew arm redesign when it's available.
I agree on the shaking for fines, but the pre Bloom stir In my eyes and the paperfilter Rinse is easy done and lends itself to noticable improvement
I don't personally go to all the trouble in the video, but I suppose you could do larger batches and separate/seal them in the right quantities.
I have very good tap water, so the idea of 'making' water seems absurd to me. If I had crummy water, I'd probably be obsessed, though.
my grind basket is like a magnet to the chaff ....
Try spraying just a tiny bit of water into your whole being prior to grinding.
I don't off the unit because we use the pot after for about a hour. I thought that you could leave the coffee maker on because it keeps the coffee at a perfect heat range after that brewing cycle. Am I wrong?
According Moccamaster recipe for full pot is 68.7 grams of coffee, not 60 grams
lol I wake up …. Battle the top and the metal arm that pings off from time to time …. Then wait for about a cup to pour into the jug … THEN ITS INDIANA JONES TIME ….. hold a small cup to swap with jug ( like the gold statue and bag of sand ) Aaaaaaaa sweet cofffe 😂
Sweet life
This seems like so much damn work.
For a simple use with moccamaster spoon how many spoon for 1 cup .??
Cause i dont have all those machine .i have moccamaster spoon ground coffee.thank u
I meant the Thermal carafe
32g at 4 cups of water = a ratio of 1:14… idk how you think that coffee shaker will somehow save this brew 😢
TDS?
Total Dissolved Solids
?? How many scoops per cup? I feel like Owsley Stanley brewing Acid or smack with all the scales and whatnot.
I love coffee but this is way too much work. I guess I just really really like coffee .
Yeah it’s bs. His recipe is completely fucked. He mixes his own water, uses all the most expensive and useless tools and then brews at a ratio of 1:14 or something because he thinks 4 cups=500ml🤡 😂
Yeah I put so much cream and sugar in mine that it doesn't matter what machine I use😅
My God. I can't imagine taking this amount of time and effort to make a pot of coffee.
Honestly at this amount of work….ill make a poor over…
I like how you think an Ode Fellow grinder is cheap. It’s over $300, you die hard coffee snobs are something. I weight my water and beans, but not going to shift my grinds when I’ve paid for an expensive machine. Also get a zero water pitcher don’t need those packets you’re taking about.
Challenge: do this again but without saying "gonna go ahead and" once.
Why don’t you put a video on the internet so anonymous losers can comment? I do give you credit. You wear your asshat well. Doesn’t. Even. Wobble.
I dont get why the plastic pieces arent steel... Who wants plastic in their coffee?
An awful lot of messing around for a pot of coffee.
When I first read your review I was like “c’mon it’s a coffee tutorial”…then 48 minutes into the video I was like “you said it perfectly”
What you’re not understanding is that this kind of technique would be for someone who is an enthusiast.
Of course Joe Blow is not going to take it to this level.
Crazy stuff indeed when a machine is supposed to automate what we do.
Once you've had what YOU consider a GREAT cup of coffee that doesn't get worse as you drink it and tastes the same cup after cup, brew after brew... day after day... well, you get it🎉... It's no problem at all❤
If you’re not interested in coffee then why even watch the video or even be rude?
What’s lacking in all these videos is someone actually making a full pot of coffee, you have half a pot there & didn’t even fill the water reservoir to its max.
Perhaps it’s just not possible to make a good pot of coffee with more water? If not, I just wish folks would say so. Is half a pot of coffee the max you can do while still keeping it quality?
I think it's the opposite -- the machines are designed to produce good results with a full pot.
So, people are more interested in making a half pot that's perfect. By the way, that 'half pot' that he made is really only the equivalent of a large coffee at McDonald's... about one serving, for me. I might drink two, some days.
According Moccamaster recipe for full pot is 68.7 grams of coffee, not 60 grams