I saw a v6 colarado 4x4 come into the dealership i worked at 3 TIMES for a grenaded engine, It only had 13k on it .think it was a 17. truck was driven normally from what we could tell! Usually it was the diesel ones in the shop all the time.
They would never do that because the Nissan would win. Chevrolet would quit sending them trucks if they would do that. That's why they do complete opposite trucks so the results are expected.
Around town here in Scottsdale, I get 13.5ish in my '16 PW. Going up to my house in Flag, 14, 14.5 coming back down (75mph). Cool that they gave you the PW long term, and also cool that Nissan still makes a base truck with a manual. Getting way too rare these days.
Hello TFL Truck! With all the information on new trucks slowing down, this was good 'out-of-the-box' thinking to keep subscribers interested. Nice job on another GREAT real-world test!
What an interesting idea!! I really enjoyed the video. So cool that Nissan makes a truck with a manual 5spd in a base model. WOW...getting 27mpg is amazing!!
That is amazing that you got that in the Nissan. I had the Exact same truck in its first year and could never get above 21.5mpg... all back hwy driving like a grandma. They must have made upgrades/updates to it.
Hey Nathan I am really thinking a power wagon is my next truck. Do you have any plans on doing the 98 mile tow loop with the power wagon with a trailer and then empty?
man, my 2004 Nissan Titan 4x4 LE gets 16 mpg. I live out here in So Cal and you can only imagine the traffic I deal with. smooth sailing when I get off early mornings. you would expect mpg numbers to go up with these newer trucks but real world diving makes it hover around 15-17 which ever make you get.
While the PW is still around, you guys should set up a Top Gear style race against the Hellcat. The Hellcat stays on the pavement while the PW goes off-road to the same finish line.
Teighlour Swyftte it will be, which we have the new one where I live, to be honest I'm not a Nissan fan but it looks very handsome. Guys take a look at Nissan UK website if you can force google not to only give you local suppliers, it may give you an idea of "not the rebadge" will look like.
www.carbuzz.com/news/2017/4/17/Nissan-Confirms-The-Next-Frontier-Will-Remain-A-True-Truck-7738762/ "...AutoGuide was told by senior vice president of Nissan North America Christian Meunier that “The Frontier has a future. Trucks are in our DNA, we’ve been doing them for a long time.” But will that next Frontier simply be a rebadged Navarro, Nissan’s respected mid-size truck sold overseas? "We’ll do something better than the Navarro," Meunier confirmed. "We like real trucks...(whereas the Navarro is more) like a Honda Ridgeline."..."
Nathan, you can mute those gas pump ads. I just push all of the buttons until it stops but I'm pretty sure that it's one of the buttons on the right side of the screen.
Let's see the most efficient with the least efficient testing! Great video! perfect example colorado 2.8 diesel RWD VS 350 or 3500 series HD truck.. Biggest one you can find. Use gasoline for the dually tank, and use diesel for the mini GM.
The Fast Lane Truck - I honestly enjoyed it, maybe some real life bumper to bumper city from a range of vehicles would be interesting to see. I'd be interested to see what a Prius does driven hard and the power wagon running behind for 50 miles. Keep up the work guys and girls.
got another grand cherokee 4x4 a few months ago with the Hemi, it's a 2010 and don't know if the previous owner tuned it or what not but that thing is only at 110k miles and I've gotten up to 28 mpg highway doing around 70, I don't use cruise control just let speed fluctuate depending on down and up hill..
My GMC Canyon with the 2.5 averages about 22 in mixed driving and on a highway road trip I got 29.7. I'm not surprised about the RAM. It's a big heavy truck and Dodge / RAM has never been known for making fuel efficient trucks to begin with. I once had a 1991 Dodge Dakota with a 3.9 V6 that drank gas. I was averaging about 15 mpg around town. If anything the mpg on that big RAM is an improvement over what they used to make. The advantage to the RAM is that it will go just about anywhere.
TX, yeah it was considered reasonably normal actually. At that time Dodge used throttle body fuel injection mounted on the intake manifold. It would really drink some gas if I drove it aggressively. Make 13.9 in that Rebel look like good gas mileage lol. The 318 V8 they used in those old Dakotas was even worse.
Oh yeah, I remember when they released the 454 SS Silverado in the early 90s. You could only get them in black and only in regular cab as I recall. They looked cool but they sucked down the gas.
The new Frontier (navara) is out here in the uk. Dont know if it will be the same there but they have down sized the engine and and added coils to the rear instead of leafs.
I average about 12mpg mixed driving in my 2016 RAM 3500 4X4 dually with the Cummins diesel and with a 4000lb Northstar STC12 Truck Camper. Highway I average about 13 and in town about 11mpg. I usually drive from New England to Minnesota and areas in-between. Of course, if I hit a strong headwind at below 0 temps, then mpg suffers; worst I got was 8mpg driving through Iowa in January.
I asked my Nissan dealer if he would or could get me a Frontier like this one, after he looked into my eyes to see that I was not kidding, he did a quick search of dealers ( in eastern Canada's four provinces ) and found none !! But he would order one for me, IF I guaranteed him that I would buy it ! I couldn't do that without a test drive,now could I? I mean we don't buy shoes without trying them on, now do we ? So I couldn't get one for a test drive, darn it!
Reg Sparkes I wouldn't worry about test driving it, just test drive the most basic one they have on the lot, it will give you a pretty good idea off what to expect if you order one, it's a great little truck
hey man nomatter how simple the final frontier is i really like it, its simple and dependable because it doesnt have as much junk to break, if i ever buy a new truck ill get the work truck version because its all i need, plus its a truck, its a big mans vehicle
I notice you used 86 octane. Ram recommends 89 or "mid grade". I don't have access to mid grade where I am so I go higher to 91 octane and it does make a difference. How much in this test I don't know, just thought I would point it out.
can you do other run on the nissan auto vs stick? make sure it the same engine ... that will be intesting ..i have heard that auto and stick is no differnt these days and auto can get better mpg.. so please
Nathan, when you're wearing that shirt, does that mean you are "in a RUSH?" ;) I was thinking, with that big PW following that little Nissan, you should do a 60-0 braking test. Then check your following distance. :)
I like the "real world" loop idea, but driving it to the letter of the speed limit laws is not in a "real world way". My vote is to top off like you did, drive the loop as you would "normally would drive", then swap vehicles, do the loop one more time and see what you get at the end. That way you neutralize the driver and get an more realistic result.
Hi...13.x mpg for the RAMPW seems ok considering its girth and probably? has 3.92 gears ... (though for comparison sake my 2016 RAM ECOD also with 3.92 gears would easily get 21-23 on a similar loop) ... as for the Frontier .. 27? mpg is probably more of a fluke (distance / fuel level / etc) than an expectation ... also I prefer ELP over RUSH
It's crazy to think that the raptor 3.5 Ecoboost makes more horsepower and torque than the 6.4 hemi. Not hating on the power wagon but just saying how good the Ecoboost really is.
1250cc I have wondered the same. Thinking back, I don't seem to recall that cylinder deactivation has ever been mentioned by the TFL crew regarding the Power Wagon. Could it be that the PW just doesn't have it?
Glad to see you're finally using a top tier fuel, which has more than twice the detergents of Love's. That alone can give you a 10% to 15% bump in mpg. Also, most of those stations have a mute button to shut those annoying digital advertisers down. Finally, I kindly request Andre's secret to resetting the odometer to zero. 😀
Growyourmind86 This article shows it can keep an engine up to 19 times cleaner: www.consumerreports.org/car-maintenance/study-shows-top-tier-gasoline-worth-extra-price/ Cleaner engines get better fuel economy. I said can not will. In the case of these long-term vehicles deposits can build up very quickly within 5000 miles. Switching from non top tier to top tier will clean up some of the deposits left behind, equaling better economy.
well thats one article, but yeah they legit listed the gas stations and its all thats around so I guess I always am getting top teir gas. I do not go to any weird no name stations my self. I am not brand loyal unless I went some place and noticed they had bad gas I woulnt go back is all.
This isn't scientific, and I don't buy into the top tier logic, I think it's BS advertising, but I do throw a bottle or two of cleaner in my tank each year. Just had the intakes off on my truck and car, about 100k give or take, and both had spotless valves, don't have a boroscope to check cylinders, just sayin'
+Brandon Dumblewski 8 speeds adds a lot more complexity to an automatic transmission. In a heavy duty truck, that can become a problem. Another thing, more gears doesn't necessarily translate to better fuel economy, it still depends on shift programming and gearing. If it's spending its time in a more powerful gear, it doesn't matter that it has two more gears above it.
That's too bad. I'd grab one up quick if it was available. The 8 speed in my silverado works the way I like. I tow everyday and do it in a steep hill town. The short gears work great. Lots of stop lights on these hills. I had f150 eco tuned by mpt. I like the 8 speed better stock with a 5.3 v8 towing with a loading bed than that turbo v6 with lots of boost. I guess that's why I like the 8 better than the 6 and think it belongs in everything lol. I get what you mean though Makes good sense.
I know someone with a V6 frontier, what the combined MPG on that? I roll solo mostly and can make a guest appearance on Trucker Hamburger Warriors (it's a show I'm thinking about creating, where I drive a truck and pickup hamburgers and act tough as a V6)
They stopped me from building a electric motor when I was a kid, and now I'm building the machine that builds rockets, I'm a space man, and I named it V60
27.4? HOLY SHIT! I get an average of 17mpg in my 2016 6 cyl Nissan Frontier (fully loaded sv with crew cab). My commute is bumper to bumper for 1hour each way. It's the ONLY thing i don't like about the "outdated" Nissan. Otherwise, I love the truck!!!!!!!
toe knee i average 21 in with the exact same truck. my commute is 50 miles each way. you should check your tire pressure and use your cruise control as much as possible it makes a difference
Karl mpg is miles per gallon. Meaning that the Nissan can travel 27 miles with one gallon of gas where the pw can only go 13 miles on one gallon of gas. Now see if you can figure out the metric system of L/km
jason allen, a comparison doesn't necessarily mean a competition. As Andre stated in the video "the trucks couldn't be more different." The very fact that they are comparing a small, base truck vs. a big, loaded truck is exactly the point of the video. In other words, they are providing consumers with a look at what you get with a big truck vs. what you get with a small truck, mileage wise.
Wow I remember the days of my old 5.4 Tritons... if I got a weekly average of 14mpgs I was stoked! Normally it was 13 or so. Not bad for the big HEMI in the big TRUCK.
I miss the days where trucks were so simple. I like that little Nissan.
That is damn good mpg out of the frontier on that loop. I think that's a cool test. Very real world as you say mixing the two types of driving.
The Nissan is such a simple, nice and sensible truck. .....sure want one.
Same
John Grytbakk geek boi truck
vWaLLBangz You mean the ecoboost?.
John Grytbakk well there's something for everyone these days.
I saw a new redesigned one today
Want to see this Frontier vs Chevrolet Colorado 2.5l base model!
Matheus F. Nardin My money is on the frontier. Although chevy makes a great competitor.
I saw a v6 colarado 4x4 come into the dealership i worked at 3 TIMES for a grenaded engine, It only had 13k on it .think it was a 17. truck was driven normally from what we could tell! Usually it was the diesel ones in the shop all the time.
They would never do that because the Nissan would win. Chevrolet would quit sending them trucks if they would do that. That's why they do complete opposite trucks so the results are expected.
Around town here in Scottsdale, I get 13.5ish in my '16 PW. Going up to my house in Flag, 14, 14.5 coming back down (75mph). Cool that they gave you the PW long term, and also cool that Nissan still makes a base truck with a manual. Getting way too rare these days.
Don Leamon they need to review a ram 2500 with the 6 speed manual...
Manual has higher over drive so it will be worse mpg than the auto.
samus989 the Manual is only available in the Cummins diesel anyway.
You can order vehicles from the factory with manual trans on some vehicles.
Power wagon is not one of them.
TFL's professionalism and video editing skills are improving. I liked this video!
Love this new idea for videos!!
cant get enough of the power wagon!!!
Nissan ftw, we need commuter trucks again. Give me a locking rear and I am sold.
Hello TFL Truck! With all the information on new trucks slowing down, this was good 'out-of-the-box' thinking to keep subscribers interested. Nice job on another GREAT real-world test!
+Barbara Schenck Thanks!
Almost had heart attack when Nathan almost scratched the PW with the gas nozzle on the first fill up!!!!
Love your videos guys. You are the best review channel.
duggydo yep these guys are just regular Joes. That works well for me.
This is a great segment and I hope you guys will do more of these real world tests with other trucks!!
+TheNomac5 Will do!
If I can average almost 14 mpg's in the Power Wagon all the time, I'd be happy with that. For what that truck is capable of.
You could buy one for yourself, wife, and kid, and still would be cheaper than the PW.
LOVE THE RUSH SHIRT BABY !!!!
why the dislikes? honest good and thorough videos. great job tfl!
What an interesting idea!! I really enjoyed the video. So cool that Nissan makes a truck with a manual 5spd in a base model. WOW...getting 27mpg is amazing!!
That is amazing that you got that in the Nissan. I had the Exact same truck in its first year and could never get above 21.5mpg... all back hwy driving like a grandma. They must have made upgrades/updates to it.
Holy crap nice Rush shirt Nathan! I just got one recently
Hey Nathan I am really thinking a power wagon is my next truck. Do you have any plans on doing the 98 mile tow loop with the power wagon with a trailer and then empty?
The Tacoma has always been my favourite truck but you gotta admire the simplicity of the Frontier.
my pro4x frontier only gets about 14 city, I can barely get 17 out of it on the highway. I'm ready to get a 2500.
As I said before, we got big green (chevy) and rusty boy (ford) but when a mid 70s dodge? THAT WILL BE THE BOMB! My all time favorite body truck.
+Crocodine Huizar MrTruck got a 1994 Dodge Ram 1500. We will do comparison videos soon
If you press one of the buttons on the right side of the screen at the pump it will mute it! I believe it's the 2nd from the top
+Nate Thanks for the tip!
Juan Suarez I do always use BP so I guess Shell could be different
man, my 2004 Nissan Titan 4x4 LE gets 16 mpg. I live out here in So Cal and you can only imagine the traffic I deal with. smooth sailing when I get off early mornings. you would expect mpg numbers to go up with these newer trucks but real world diving makes it hover around 15-17 which ever make you get.
While the PW is still around, you guys should set up a Top Gear style race against the Hellcat. The Hellcat stays on the pavement while the PW goes off-road to the same finish line.
Can't wait for a Frontier update, they (Nissan) said that it won't just be a rebadged Navara, which is pretty exciting.
Any news when? Or no word yet?
Teighlour Swyftte it will be, which we have the new one where I live, to be honest I'm not a Nissan fan but it looks very handsome.
Guys take a look at Nissan UK website if you can force google not to only give you local suppliers, it may give you an idea of "not the rebadge" will look like.
www.carbuzz.com/news/2017/4/17/Nissan-Confirms-The-Next-Frontier-Will-Remain-A-True-Truck-7738762/
"...AutoGuide was told by senior vice president of Nissan North America Christian Meunier that “The Frontier has a future. Trucks are in our DNA, we’ve been doing them for a long time.” But will that next Frontier simply be a rebadged Navarro, Nissan’s respected mid-size truck sold overseas? "We’ll do something better than the Navarro," Meunier confirmed. "We like real trucks...(whereas the Navarro is more) like a Honda Ridgeline."..."
You gotta love the power wagon.
I love this test! I'd like to see the Ford F150 3.5 Ecoboost vs Chevy Silverado 1500 5.3 V-8, please!
Hey guys great idea great video. Now you have to test all trucks for the past 2-3 years.
Nathan, you can mute those gas pump ads. I just push all of the buttons until it stops but I'm pretty sure that it's one of the buttons on the right side of the screen.
Let's see the most efficient with the least efficient testing! Great video! perfect example colorado 2.8 diesel RWD VS 350 or 3500 series HD truck.. Biggest one you can find. Use gasoline for the dually tank, and use diesel for the mini GM.
I would love to see the F250, RAM 2500, and HD 2500 diesels configured in base Work Truck configurations do a mpg combined loop.
Nice to see this sort of testing. Thanks for doing it. Keep up the excellent work.
That's a great loop for testing mixed city/highway mpg! It would be great if you could test more vehicles on this loop.
My Nissan Frontier SV crew cab with a V6 gets 15ish mpg. Not the best fuel economy but a very reliable little truck
I would really like to see an update on the Power Wagon with the 8 speed transmission to see the difference.
I wish y'all could test closer to sea level so the other 3/4ths of the nation could use your numbers accurately.
I suggested this kind of test a while ago and I'm glad you're trying it out 👍
+iVlog Thank you.
The Fast Lane Truck - I honestly enjoyed it, maybe some real life bumper to bumper city from a range of vehicles would be interesting to see.
I'd be interested to see what a Prius does driven hard and the power wagon running behind for 50 miles.
Keep up the work guys and girls.
Liking this everyday test loop. Nathan, I totally agree about those pumps... I avoid them!!
got another grand cherokee 4x4 a few months ago with the Hemi, it's a 2010 and don't know if the previous owner tuned it or what not but that thing is only at 110k miles and I've gotten up to 28 mpg highway doing around 70, I don't use cruise control just let speed fluctuate depending on down and up hill..
My GMC Canyon with the 2.5 averages about 22 in mixed driving and on a highway road trip I got 29.7. I'm not surprised about the RAM. It's a big heavy truck and Dodge / RAM has never been known for making fuel efficient trucks to begin with. I once had a 1991 Dodge Dakota with a 3.9 V6 that drank gas. I was averaging about 15 mpg around town. If anything the mpg on that big RAM is an improvement over what they used to make. The advantage to the RAM is that it will go just about anywhere.
A 91 v6 getting 15mpg was probably pretty good in those days.
TX, yeah it was considered reasonably normal actually. At that time Dodge used throttle body fuel injection mounted on the intake manifold. It would really drink some gas if I drove it aggressively. Make 13.9 in that Rebel look like good gas mileage lol. The 318 V8 they used in those old Dakotas was even worse.
My first truck was a 97 1 ton with the 454. The infamous that past everything except a gas station.
A whopping 8mpg on a good day.
Oh yeah, I remember when they released the 454 SS Silverado in the early 90s. You could only get them in black and only in regular cab as I recall. They looked cool but they sucked down the gas.
The new Frontier (navara) is out here in the uk. Dont know if it will be the same there but they have down sized the engine and and added coils to the rear instead of leafs.
why the 85 for the elevation? I live at 6300ft and travel over 7200ft some times, never heard about it or seen 85 in my area.
Agreed. Is 87 octane for regular not standard in the US?
nice little Nissan truck.
I like the video idea, but I'd love to see more old vs new stuff too!
I average about 12mpg mixed driving in my 2016 RAM 3500 4X4 dually with the Cummins diesel and with a 4000lb Northstar STC12 Truck Camper. Highway I average about 13 and in town about 11mpg. I usually drive from New England to Minnesota and areas in-between. Of course, if I hit a strong headwind at below 0 temps, then mpg suffers; worst I got was 8mpg driving through Iowa in January.
Rick Thompson That’s relevant.
Really need to run the base model Tacoma in the same tests that you are doing with the frontier
I asked my Nissan dealer if he would or could get me a Frontier like this one, after he looked into my eyes to see that I was not kidding, he did a quick search of dealers ( in eastern Canada's four provinces ) and found none !! But he would order one for me, IF I guaranteed him that I would buy it ! I couldn't do that without a test drive,now could I?
I mean we don't buy shoes without trying them on, now do we ?
So I couldn't get one for a test drive, darn it!
Reg Sparkes I wouldn't worry about test driving it, just test drive the most basic one they have on the lot, it will give you a pretty good idea off what to expect if you order one, it's a great little truck
hey man nomatter how simple the final frontier is i really like it, its simple and dependable because it doesnt have as much junk to break, if i ever buy a new truck ill get the work truck version because its all i need, plus its a truck, its a big mans vehicle
Yeah gotta agree. I would love one as a second vehicle for taking it easy on my more expensive F150
Real world test eh Andre! Even got the cell phone out while your driving!
I notice you used 86 octane. Ram recommends 89 or "mid grade". I don't have access to mid grade where I am so I go higher to 91 octane and it does make a difference. How much in this test I don't know, just thought I would point it out.
I think the loop should be longer, and drivers switch at 1/2 way to average out driving style.
can you do other run on the nissan auto vs stick? make sure it the same engine ... that will be intesting ..i have heard that auto and stick is no differnt these days and auto can get better mpg.. so please
Good review! Exactly what I wanted to see. Thank you
id love to see more videos like this! Very useful information
Question for you guys at tfl truck, what are you using to communicate with each other while driving? is it just your phones?
My V6 Frontier barely gets 15 goddamn mpg smh...
the nissan reminds me of what trucks used to be, utilitarian, those are the worst gas stations shell?
frontier is nice but I like the ram. The power wagon is a nice accessory on the road.
Gets better MPG than my 2015 Power Wagon... oh wait that's because I got 37" tires and a lift. lmao haha Great video as always TFL
IWrocker I’m curious, how much does the mileage go down with a lift? Thinkin about doing 5 inches on my 2nd gen ram.
What would it take to make the Power Wagon as capable as the raptor on dunes?
Nathan, when you're wearing that shirt, does that mean you are "in a RUSH?" ;)
I was thinking, with that big PW following that little Nissan, you should do a 60-0 braking test. Then check your following distance. :)
I like the "real world" loop idea, but driving it to the letter of the speed limit laws is not in a "real world way". My vote is to top off like you did, drive the loop as you would "normally would drive", then swap vehicles, do the loop one more time and see what you get at the end. That way you neutralize the driver and get an more realistic result.
You gotta do more of these!
Hi...13.x mpg for the RAMPW seems ok considering its girth and probably? has 3.92 gears ... (though for comparison sake my 2016 RAM ECOD also with 3.92 gears would easily get 21-23 on a similar loop) ... as for the Frontier .. 27? mpg is probably more of a fluke (distance / fuel level / etc) than an expectation ... also I prefer ELP over RUSH
Komatoski Not, 3.92 gears, but 4.10 for both vehicles. Andre states that at 2:23 in the video.
Love the Rush t-shirt!
The guy with the Frontier isnt afraid to get it banged up. 65k makes you regret doing any work with these trucks
I wonder which "subdivision" Nathan was driving in? ;-)
Ha! Love it!
It's crazy to think that the raptor 3.5 Ecoboost makes more horsepower and torque than the 6.4 hemi. Not hating on the power wagon but just saying how good the Ecoboost really is.
unknown name . Let’s not forget the economist has twin turbos
doesnt the power wagon 6.4 have “Multi Displacement System”turns off the fuel in four cylinders when power is not needed.
1250cc I have wondered the same. Thinking back, I don't seem to recall that cylinder deactivation has ever been mentioned by the TFL crew regarding the Power Wagon. Could it be that the PW just doesn't have it?
Why do you wait the 30 seconds??
love the I sea of a real world test for trucks great idea to inform a novice tower who will do more day to day than tow
If you don't like the talking fuel pumps, press the second button down on the right side. it should mute the sound
maybe with an automatic transmission the frontier will be 2mpg less efficient than the manual transmission .
Glad to see you're finally using a top tier fuel, which has more than twice the detergents of Love's. That alone can give you a 10% to 15% bump in mpg. Also, most of those stations have a mute button to shut those annoying digital advertisers down. Finally, I kindly request Andre's secret to resetting the odometer to zero. 😀
You sure about the top teir fuel. I would like to see some tests to prove that. I never notice any difference with gas as long as its same octane.
Growyourmind86 This article shows it can keep an engine up to 19 times cleaner: www.consumerreports.org/car-maintenance/study-shows-top-tier-gasoline-worth-extra-price/ Cleaner engines get better fuel economy. I said can not will. In the case of these long-term vehicles deposits can build up very quickly within 5000 miles. Switching from non top tier to top tier will clean up some of the deposits left behind, equaling better economy.
well thats one article, but yeah they legit listed the gas stations and its all thats around so I guess I always am getting top teir gas. I do not go to any weird no name stations my self. I am not brand loyal unless I went some place and noticed they had bad gas I woulnt go back is all.
except 85 isn't allowed in the 6.4, it can cause engine damage, even 87 isn't the recommended fuel.
This isn't scientific, and I don't buy into the top tier logic, I think it's BS advertising, but I do throw a bottle or two of cleaner in my tank each year. Just had the intakes off on my truck and car, about 100k give or take, and both had spotless valves, don't have a boroscope to check cylinders, just sayin'
Do you keep the AC off during the tests?
do the land cruiser cliffs hanger 2.0
that power wagon needs an 8 speed. I have a Chevy with an 8 speed and it's way better than the 6. I'm sure that huge truck could use the extra gears.
+Brandon Dumblewski 8 speeds adds a lot more complexity to an automatic transmission. In a heavy duty truck, that can become a problem. Another thing, more gears doesn't necessarily translate to better fuel economy, it still depends on shift programming and gearing. If it's spending its time in a more powerful gear, it doesn't matter that it has two more gears above it.
That's too bad. I'd grab one up quick if it was available. The 8 speed in my silverado works the way I like. I tow everyday and do it in a steep hill town. The short gears work great. Lots of stop lights on these hills. I had f150 eco tuned by mpt. I like the 8 speed better stock with a 5.3 v8 towing with a loading bed than that turbo v6 with lots of boost. I guess that's why I like the 8 better than the 6 and think it belongs in everything lol. I get what you mean though Makes good sense.
My work truck is one of those Ram 2500 trucks with a 6.4L. And it doesn't need more gears. 6 speed is more than enough for that engine.
And to think that juiciest two decades ago nearly every vehicle only came available with a three speed auto
The driver just need to find that sweet spot... if to low on rpm... engine will be on torquing mode.. i think thats what hapen on those 50 miles. Lol
Great vid with great info!
I know someone with a V6 frontier, what the combined MPG on that? I roll solo mostly and can make a guest appearance on Trucker Hamburger Warriors (it's a show I'm thinking about creating, where I drive a truck and pickup hamburgers and act tough as a V6)
You're a V6?
They stopped me from building a electric motor when I was a kid, and now I'm building the machine that builds rockets, I'm a space man, and I named it V60
Should have gone on pearl street in boulder, that's stop and go.
27.4? HOLY SHIT! I get an average of 17mpg in my 2016 6 cyl Nissan Frontier (fully loaded sv with crew cab). My commute is bumper to bumper for 1hour each way. It's the ONLY thing i don't like about the "outdated" Nissan. Otherwise, I love the truck!!!!!!!
toe knee i average 21 in with the exact same truck. my commute is 50 miles each way. you should check your tire pressure and use your cruise control as much as possible it makes a difference
Doesn’t the power wagon turn off 4 cylinders at over 55mph?
Evil One It can turn them off at any speed.
85 Octane? YIKES... With the 392, I wouldn't be running anything other than Shell or Chevron 91.
My 2001 5.9 V8 ram gets 9.8 mpg around town
27mpg makes sense, half the cylinders and half the weight
2112
Did they buy the power wagon?
+Clayton Sams No, it's a long term loan from Ram.
damm nissan america havent updated the frontier??
Of all of the trucks you could get together that finally have the same speed rear end. lol
is high mpg like the nissan good or bad?
Karl mpg is miles per gallon. Meaning that the Nissan can travel 27 miles with one gallon of gas where the pw can only go 13 miles on one gallon of gas.
Now see if you can figure out the metric system of L/km
Oh okay Kristopher thank you.
how can you compare these two power wagon is huge and heavy and nissan is light and 2 wheel drive not a v8. Hell the dodge is like 2 times heavier
jason allen, a comparison doesn't necessarily mean a competition. As Andre stated in the video "the trucks couldn't be more different." The very fact that they are comparing a small, base truck vs. a big, loaded truck is exactly the point of the video. In other words, they are providing consumers with a look at what you get with a big truck vs. what you get with a small truck, mileage wise.
Good stuff!
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Wow I remember the days of my old 5.4 Tritons... if I got a weekly average of 14mpgs I was stoked! Normally it was 13 or so. Not bad for the big HEMI in the big TRUCK.
Power wagon should be filled up with e87 not e85!!
you're following speed limits? well now i'm not sure if this is really a real world test..
+Armando Diaz Funny
I really wish I could afford the Power Wagon.