Reduced Backpressure Suppressors testing. RC3,Hux, Cobalt , B&T SRBS-556 (Silencer Shop exclusive)
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- čas přidán 24. 06. 2024
- This is a comprehensive test of the RC3, HUX 556k, Cobalt Scrambler, and the B&T SRBS 556. These are only my opinions for small sample sizes and what you should know about hearing damage using any 5.56 suppressor.
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I competed in a night match at Clinton House this past weekend and noticed something interesting. We were shooting at targets between 100 and 200 yards for rifle, so in the white light division the gun smoke resulted in a significant challenge. There was a guy using the Huxwrx Ventum 5.56, and because of the flowthrough design he had the same issue with smoke as the people without a suppressor had. Namely, the gun smoke was illuminated by his weapon light and obscured his vision significantly because it was not trapped by the suppressor, as opposed to those of us using traditional cans. I am not sure if that was a specific issue related to the Ventum, his particular gun+can+ammo+light combination, or an issue with flow through cans in general. Just an interesting data point.
I don’t think the Ventum 556 is out yet, it was a Ventum 762? Maybe it would make a difference if it was 556 specifically? No dog in the fight, just wondering.
@@davelpz3340 I may have been mistaken on the exact can, it was dark and I had been up for about 20 hours at that point after all.
Great comment. I have done a lot of night matches with tons of different suppressors. I too, noticed that the reduced backpressure cans definitely vent more "smoke" out of the front. Definitely more noticeable on a calm night.
It can be mitigated with different powders but that is hard for bulk range ammo. Cheaper ammo is a lot more gassey generally
Great video! I love to see how much your channel has grown since I first started watching 6 or so years ago. I’m still an RC2 man. Eventually I’ll delve into the flow through stuff now that wait times are dramatically lower.
Thanks Shane! It has been fun doing the channel and I have learned a ton from it.
Ray, awesome information and well presented as always. I must say I am amazed you do not have WAY more subscribers with the quality of your channel and its content. You deserve to be in the millions! Respect! Hi from NZ
Thank you for this video Ray, especially the section on hearing damage. I gave myself tinnitus 32 years ago via DIY work. Trust me it wrecks your life, and that’s before it develops into Menieres. I love my shooting I just don’t like loud bangs and that’s why I double up on ear protection and use a suppressor on an indoor range. This video should be compulsory viewing for every shooter. Keep up the good work!
Thank you Paul. I really wanted to take the time to put this content out there. I know its not exciting to listen to someone talking about hearing damage but I see so many people get a new can for their AR and shoot all day at the range without any earpro. Just wanted to help share the knowledge. Thank you for watching.
@@XRING Thank you for your comments Ray much appreciated. As you now have a SPL meter and the required skill to use it may I suggest another variation on this video! I was on range some time ago and a friend of mine rocked up with a 300 Win Mag with a muzzle break next on me on the firing line, the concussive blast off the break blew me sideways! Would it be possible to do a comparative test which shows the sound level at your ear and at a shooters ear to your left or right with no muzzle device verses the sound level at you ear and the person next to you with a muzzle break?
I actually fake hearing damage so I can ignore some of the nonsense happening around me at work:)
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Lol epic!
Great job with the comparisons. Very useful information. Subscribed!
Great video, Ray! There is a lot of awesome information here.
Thank you and thanks for the comment. 👍🏼
Great info from you as always Ray!
Thank you olamorken and thanks for watching the channel.
I really appreciate you measuring the volume of simply dropping the bolt. A lot of people likely don't understand that just the action itself on an AR is loud enough to cause hearing damage. There is, unfortunately, no such thing as a hearing safe suppressed AR, even in .300 BLK, simply because the metal-on-metal of the bolt slamming forward is too loud for regular exposure.
Well done! So much information packed in. This must have taken a lot of time and effort to make this video. Thank you. Looking ahead, I hope you can add the Sig SLX and SLH cans to your testing. They have not received much coverage on social media. I am interested in learning more about their performance and design.
Taking one for the team. Thank you.
LOL!. I really wanted to get the first hand experience with them without ear pro. Definitely makes a difference in my opinion of them.
Thanks for doing this test.
Excellent experiment
Thank You Sir! I liked the comparison of the suppressors on the two barrel lengths. 👍🇺🇲
B&T SRBS 556 Full Size DM just showed on Silencer Sh_p with a "free" tax stamp. It has been my experience that one pays for the stamp and then is reimbursed at the appropriate time. 👍🇺🇲
Whoa, I just scrolled down the news letter and the B&T SRBS 762 Full Size DM also is offered with free tax stamp! 👍🇺🇲
I agree with you on the left ear going deaf first. I may have been dealing with that for quite a few years.
Great information Ray. Good to see you posting again. Have a good week sir.
Thanks Joaquin! I am trying to stay more regular with the videos when possible. Too much to review and so little time!!! Have a great week.
Another informative and entertaining video! Like someone else wrote, supporting the HUB system will be an important aspect when choosing my next can.
Definitely an important consideration since the cost of ownership of a suppressor is quite high when you factor in the tax stamp and accessories. 👍
My can has been in jail since april, I got the flow 762 for versatility across multiple gas guns. Gonna come back and watch this when I'm approved, don't want to be disappointed in my choice
Hux makes very good cans. I completely forgot that I have a 7.62 Hux as well. I should have added that to the test as well. DANG IT!
The Flow 762 is even quieter at the muzzle on 5.56 but sacrifices a little at ear. Love the 762 on most all of the semi autos especially 7.62x39 and 6.5 grendel
Guys read PEW Science for actually MIL-STD testing and analysis of these suppressors. They have tested every suppressor in the video except the B&T and they have not posted the data for the Scrambler yet. Whatever the meter is saying just ignore it because it filters the the data and it doesn't sample the sound pressure fast enough so some suppressors might be louder or quieter than what's show above.
I keep trying to find a comparable flow through alternative to the Huxwrx flow, but it’s like they’re in a class of their own. Won’t tear up your gun and suppression is actually comparable to cans that will tear up your gun more. I guess they really are worth the hype!
Excellent breakdown of the cans, thank you for the insight. On a side note, your three offhand hits at 500... uh please excuse me but I need to go out and hit the range more often and stop making excuses haha.
Excellent!
Ray, another informative video. What ear pro do you use? As many caliber and barrel lengths you shoot, I'd enjoy hearing about the ear pro you use in the videos and comps.
Thanks for this reporting!
That B&T would look nice on my 6ARC. Maybe I’ll break down and buy one.
This man sacrificing himself for us. 😁
Ray, I just came back from the Ohio Suppressor Shoot. Got to shoot some great cans. But, for me to consider a new purchase today for 5.56 or a 7.62 can, they need to be on the Hub design. I have over $1000.00 invested in SICO ASR mounts. I can unscrew the mount section of any of the SICO cans I have and screw on to any manufacture that utilize the Hub threading design. Like Dead Air. Surefire was there, but I bypassed them for that reason. Manufactures in attendance were; Surefire, SICO, Dead Air, Sig, Q, OCL, and Rugged. Wish there some of the cans in this video in attendance to try, like the B&T.
Look at the Hux Ventus
That awesome Snakeman! The Hub definitely makes life easier but at the cost of a little more weight. Definitely something worth considering when purchasing a new suppressor.
Man I love this I love when you do can stuff
Thanks Will. I like to review them as well but it does make for longer and more involved video reviews.
Hi, Ray!...say, I noticed you attached one of the suppressors while filming (at the 18.04 mark), which you never do!...you may want to edit that second or two out to prevent the CZcams Hitler youth from demonitizing this fine video.... just thought you would want to be aware. Wonderful video overview...as always.
Dang! I’ll check it out. Thanks
very impressed with the huxwrx and cobalt
Same here! Going to try to get one of the CAT's in as well.
Love to see what you think of the CAT WB
Working on it as we speak. Need to get one in for review.
@@XRINGI’ll send you a CAT WB if you want to try one that I have as a demo. I’m an 07/02 in Clarksville, TN. (Longbow Arms). Hit me up if you want.
I don't see anything about an inconel version of the Scrambler anywheres. Where are you getting an inconel version from and what is the weight compared to the TI version?
🎉❤ Thanks for sharing
Thank you for watching Sanmiguel.
How did you get an Inconel Scrambler? They only have titanium on their website. Asking because i am interested in buying one. I was looking at the CGS SCI-Six as well, but cant find much info on it. Have you tried this yet??
I’d really like to know how long each silencer will last. I know people hate on SureFire but those cans will last basically forever.
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Thank you sir for telling people that none of these cans are “hearing safe”. < 140 dB is not hearing safe. It is a total lie to advertise as such. Hearing safe long ago was < 120 dB, not even < 130 dB. Repeated exposure above 120 dB means you should wear ear protection. Period.
Did you get to test the 7.62 SRBS at all?
Where is the Sig Flow Through suppressor? Can you compare the PTR and Sig Flow Through suppressors to the HUX?
Great video. I hope you address the difference the difference with bolt action and AR. A lot of loudness is increased due to the receiver opening on an AR.
Thanks Gary! I will on some follow up videos. Trying to get some more suppressors in for the next review of them.
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Great video. Thanks!
My pleasure and thanks Jeff!
Which one would you chose for the least amount of back pressure. Like you stated none are truly hearing safe, so which one would be the best for the least crap in the face in your opinion?
Back pressure really isn't the metric to buy off of. That's marketing
Huxwrx is really the best from backpressure standpoint.
@Sw1ftenergy but back pressure really isn't a huge issue in most modern cans that balance
Missing a specter CAT 😢
because it would not be fair.
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@@stingers96you ain’t wrong
I need to get my hands on one of those as well. I have heard good things about them.
@@XRING CAT is the truth
Why take ear pro off for short barrel test ? Thanks for video but dang, it hurt me watching you do that to yourself
So sad you guys have those crazy silencer laws. They save hearing, reduce recoil, and don't scare game as much when hunting.
Tell me about it!
I also wear my hearing protection on my motorcycle, the wind noise on the helmet can be very loud to the point, I would return home, turn on the TV and was unable to hear it!
Oh man!! I know all about that. Wind noise in a helmet for a long ride can definitely damage the hearing.
@@XRING new bike day tomorrow, PX my Yamaha FZ6-S2 for a new Yamaha XSR900 😊
@@jonhewitt3 Awesome! I just picked up a pre-owned 1200GSA. Time to get to riding .
No experience ever with suppressors for me. There was a guy shooting a bolt gun at the range that had a can on it and that sucker was LOUD!
Because they still are loud, but alot nicer than unsuppressed.
Just think of it as when someone is shooting suppressed near you, they are adding a layer to everyone's ear pro.
As he said, -20 to -30 dB at volume of gun shot is a huge decrease of energy.
Definitely louder than most peoples initial expectations. The only thing that really shines is a .22 suppressed and subs out of a 9mm or .300 blk.
Ray! Where ya been? Lol
I've have been all over the place! Glad to be back at it.
Well sh!^t....if the sound of a bolt closing is damn near 130db and prolonged exposure can cause hearing damage, I need to run one of those meters when my wife is jaw-yappin' about whatever... Then maybe I can get OSHA to remove the sound nuisance from the premises.
Great test, but I do not understand why you are shooting withut ear protection knowing that it will hurt you. For a test you do not have to.
Well, it is a good point. However, I couldn’t think of a better way to give actual data on what I hear with regards to tone and intensity between the different manufacturers.
anyone want to buy my RC3? LOL I want the scrambler.
LOL. The Scrambler was definitely impressive as I had no real experience with them prior to shooting this video.
@@XRING I know man! I had no XP either. Oh well. Maybe I might get the scrambler.
And db's are not even, they are logarithmic. 0-10 is ten times, but 0-20 is 100 times.
That was clearly stated and explained in the video.
My only gripe is that the HUX suppressors are FUGLY and the CAT suppressors look “cheap”
Watching this as rc2 owners in the comments think that their can is better because they spent $1000+ on their overrated piece of trash
Every can in the video is over $1,100 except the B&T at $950.
I’ve never had an issue out of my RC2, huxwork I just wouldn’t recommend.
I ❤️ CGS
Lmao imagine hating the most proven can In combat history just because you like something else agahahah 🤡 consumer logic
@@johnadams673 yeah, rc2 consumers will keep the industry back because they 90% dont know any better. A lot of cans usually less expensive than the rc2 and lighter, perform the same, or better. You dont know this but: socom requirements are not civilian requirements. You rc2 folks are the meme of the silencer world
@@johnadams673 the most proven can in military use, knights makes it. Sorry to burst your bubble.
@@Omar20v most army combat units have RC2’s, even the guard one I was in had a few dozen.
B&T is the world’s largest manufacturer of silencers.
Whatever surefire did to you, it’s OK. They screwed me over on O rings a few times as well.
The RC2 is 50% cheaper and is hands down better. Flow-though defeats the point of what a silencer is. What good is a silencer if it's not that quiet?
Lol.. is better than what?
Signature reduction is more than just lowest peak sound. Double so when shooting 5.56, it can only be so quiet and still be an effective round (needs speed). Reducing flash and outgas, reduce first round pop, having a tone that "dis-locates" the origin of the shooter all arguably matter more for 5.56 rifle.
@@johnsullivan676 he a rc2 owner. He didnt understood any of that.
I like Surefire but the Hux did really good. I’m surprised. Now I want one.
sc-six nd cat wb might be better then a Rc2
I just picked up my first 5.56 HUXWORKS can two weeks ago