MILESTAR PATAGONIA M/T-02 - Review!!!
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- We got the opportunity to get our hands on an early set of the new and improved Milestar Patagonia M/T 02 and have clocked in over 3k miles on them. Quick video review of our thoughts on the tire and some info on the improvements from the original Patagonia M/T.
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Picking these up in 40’s and going to run on my JTR with upgraded 44’s (truss, shafts, ball joints)
The weight of the 40” milestar’s is lower than the 37” ridge grapplers I have currently. Rotational mass is going DOWN while my diameter is going up. I accept the weaker sidewall 🤷🏻♂️
Nice! That's one thing I always tell people about these tires is that the weight is much less than some others. I've run most big name tire brands over the years and lost a side wall on all of them. Knock on wood, I have yet to lose a sidewall on any of my Patagonia's. I ran 2 sets on my JK and 3 on my JL (Original MT's, Black Labels and now MT02's). Plus my wifes MT02's on her Gladiator.
Great looking Jeep! Those 38” M/T 02’s sound promising for Dana 44’s
Thanks. Definitely a good size option for built 44's
Awesome info guys!
Thanks Dude. Michelle is a good tire tester, she racks up the miles quick lol.
I love how you have both Jeeps setup, would love to see some more videos of both of them out on the trails.
Thanks. I'm planning on getting some more video of the Jeeps in action. Most of I what I post on here is informational, shot in one take no editing haha. We don't really film much on the trail, heck I hardly take pictures on the trails anymore. Try to just enjoy being out there but definitely want to get some footage of my new suspension setup in action for the coilover vs ori series I'm going to do.
@@ELEVENSDIRTLIFE Yes the informational stuff is great and you seem to have lots of good connections in the off-road community. You guys seem very comfortable on camera and I think some wheeling videos of those two rigs would get some good views for the channel.
@@bbennett0198 for sure. Maybe I can get one of my kiddos to start filming some of our off-road stuff and start adding it to the channel.
I am still running Pata M/T and I am worried that the new 02's will not provide as good of grip with the harder compound and they also look like they closed up the tread gap. So now they are not as much M/T as an X/T. I hope they will still offer the M/t and not replace them.
The MT02 compound is great. I prefer it in the rocks over the M/T Black Label and standard M/T compounds. On road the MT02 has been phenomenal for a M/T tire. My wife has over 40K miles on her MT02's currently. The tread gap is almost identical and they are still very much a M/T and not an X/T. It is a far superior tire to the original M/T.
@@ELEVENSDIRTLIFE thats awesome, but I whele mostly mud, sand very little rocks. I prefer the original M/T. I hope they don't drop the original
Are these pretty good for a daily driver?
More companies need to compete in the 38in tire range. The stock 44 axles especially on the Rubicons and Max Tow are beefier than standard 44 axles. If you look at 1 tons from a few years ago the newer 44s are pretty close. My biggest issue with Patagonia tires were not up to the 3k range, It's how they degenerate and get so mad after 3k miles. I really want to try the -02 version, but you guys are the first "Review" I've seen, but I'm skeptical until I see a review at the 20k miles mark..
Agreed. Its a great tire size. We plan on doing an update video since she has over 20k miles on her MT02's now. But in short, they have been great. They are wearing out evenly and have a ton of tread left on them. Been really happy with the new compound.
I had 27k miles on my first set of 38" MT02s and they still had 11/32 tread life left. Just switched to the new D rated 38s and am loving them.
@@OzarkOverlandAdventures dude I saw your rig at Nguyens Bumper shop in Ontario CA im wanting the RCLT HD kit for mine now lol. I have the 38" MT Pattys on my '84 military chevy truck and they are SOFT ...no way they will get that mileage. Cant wait to get the MT02 35" for my 4R
@@05EVORS Sadly that wasn't my Gladiator. I haven't been to Ontario yet.
Do you know what the loaded tire measured height is on your Gladiator?
Nice jeep👍
Thanks 👍
Do the tires measure width with sidewalls? Or actual rubber to road width?
I would have liked to hear more of what Michelle had to say about them
Awesome stuff!
Do you recommend bead lock wheels for primarily weekly DD and weekend wheeling?
Thanks! For wheeling, 100% beadlocks are the way to go especially if you are needing to get low double digit/single digit psi range. For daily drivers they can be tricky. Most tire shops wont touch them b/c almost all of them are not DOT approved for road and highway use. That means you are likely going to need to mount them your self. I've run beadlocks on my daily driver for years and have had no issues but have mounted every single tire myself.
In the 40 inch tire, Milestar shows a M/T 121Q, A M/T 121Q D/8, AND A X/T 121Q D/8 BW. What is difference and what would you recommemend for mall crawler, wanting smooth and quite as possible....
I'm not 100% sure the difference between the M/T 121Q and M/T 121Q D/8. I believe those refer to the original M/T compound and possibly are the regular and black label (DOT Sticky).
I would recommend the new compound in the MT/02. The 40x13.50 R17 is going to be item number 22235004. The best place to grab those online is going to be through Northridge 4x4 .
The other tire you referenced is the X/T and is a hybrid between an All Terrain (A/T) and a Mud Terrain (M/T). The item number for those in the 40x13.5 R17 is going to be 22235003 and same with the MT02 @northridge4x4 is the best place to get those. (I'd confirm with whomever you are buying tires from that the item numbers I gave you are correct for your setup but they should be accurate based off what I'm seeing on Milestar and Northridge's websites).
The X/T is not going to look as aggressive as the MT02 but it would be your best road manners tire in that size. That said the MT02 are great on the road as well. My wife has close to 30k miles on hers and drives hers everyday and I'm currently running them in a 42" on my daily and they perform fantastic on the road. The key with this tire is tire pressure. They have been designed to run at 34 psi and up. I run mine between 34-35 psi and have had great results with road manners and tread life.
@@ELEVENSDIRTLIFE Thank you so much, I have 37 inch Kanati trail hogs now and have been super inpressed with them, with 30,000 MILES they are hardly worn and still quiet. Unfortunately they don't offer a size larger than 37 in that model.
I’m thinking of getting these in 37’s for my Gladiator. Do you know how they were in the snow? And are you rotating them every 3 thousand miles.
We don't do a ton of snow wheeling but have had good results in the snow. The tread design allows for good snow evacuation. I really got to see this first hand when I went up to Ellensburg WA for some deep snow wheeling (I was on another brand of tires at the time) and all the rigs on Patagonia's had clear tread and the rest of us had snow all packed in ours.
@@ELEVENSDIRTLIFE Thank you 😊
@@doorkicker8507 If you need it for the snow for DD and not snow wheeling, check out their patagonia XT. It's one of the few hybrid 3pmsf rated tires. Also comes in the 37/38/40 sz.
@@vincentmamotos9937 Thanks man. Looked into Patagonia tires 3 weeks ago. Cannot get them. Supply is low. Word is out on them. So I went with M/T Baja Boss a/t. Love ❤️ them.
@@doorkicker8507 cant go wrong with mickey thompson. They're just kind of expensive. And they dont have 38s. They really need to tap into that market. There is a strong demand
How are they over puddles? Everytime I drive through puddles in mud tires the Jeep wants to skate that kinda gets terrifying after a while especially if you don’t know the roads like that.
Never had any issues with puddles and these tires. The drive right through them no problem
It looks outstanding! What gears are you running?
Thanks. Gears are Yukon 5.38's
@@ELEVENSDIRTLIFE on dana 44s? Isnt there more cons at runnning 5.38s on that D44 housing than there are pros?
@@vincentmamotos9937 We're actually running 5.13 gears on the Gladiator. That was a typo on my part on the response to the other comment
CORRECTION to my last response to you. We are running 5.13 gears on the Gladiator.
@@ELEVENSDIRTLIFE yeah i'm pretty fixed on staying at 38s 5.13s as well. Only a few out there make 38s
I'm getting ready to buy a set of these. I'm going with a 3.5" metalcloak lift to go with it. What do you think of these in a daily driver and what kind of mileage could I look at getting.
These are fantastic on a daily driver. My wife and I both drive our jeeps everyday and they are our primary modes of transportation. The Milestar Patagonia is designed to perform well on road with its crowned shape. Having proper tire pressure (34-38 psi) in this tire will allow you to be on that center tread block, which keeps road noise down and has them track really well on the road. You see a lot of other brand mud terrain tires running lower pressure on the road (mid 20's) to create a flat contact patch because of the flat tire design. This is great for a softer ride but hurts gas mileage and over all on road performance.
Milestar designed the Patagonia MT02 to be run closer to factory tire pressure for a reason, to help provide the best on road tire performance you can get out of a MT/Offroad tire. It really gives you the best of both worlds with great on and offroad performance.
My wife has close to 30k miles on her MT02's and they are wearing out great and have great tread life still left on them.
@@ELEVENSDIRTLIFE what rim back spacing / offset are you running with the 3 1/2" lift to get the clearance you need. I have a 22 Gladiator Rubicon. I'm looking at the metalcloak and the rock krawler set ups because they have all the track bars and control arms with the kits.
@@ElmoWV304 we are running KMC Grenade Crawl Beadlocks, which have 3.5” backspace and -38mm offset.
Everything clears with that set up and we don’t have any rubbing issues.
What PSI do you recommend? I can’t seem to find a firm answer. People are recommending anywhere from 34-38 PSI.
I’ve always run 34 on mine and have had good results with that. We run 35 in my wife’s but I’d say anywhere between 34-38 is a good range for the Patagonia’s.
@@ELEVENSDIRTLIFE thanks for the info!
how has your tire wear been by now? any updates on tires?
Tires have been wearing out fantastic. I’m actually planning on doing an update video soon. We’ve put over 20k miles on them since April and they look great.
What do they measure mounted
I don’t remember off the top of my head but they were damn close to 38”. They are very true to size.
plz use a remote microphone hooked up to your camera, and dont film in the wind
That would definitely be ideal. I’m not a CZcamsr, I shoot everything one shot with my iPhone, no fancy equipment. That’s kind of the point of my channel, just a regular dude providing info and reviews based on my years of experience and multiple Jeeps owned. I don’t have time to edit and make the videos all clean and perfect sounding , which I understand isn’t the best but I’m really just on here to help people out with information and answering questions I get in a longer format than through DM’s on social.
Appreciate you watching and providing feedback but videos for the foreseeable future will all be along the same lines. So keep that in mind while watching.