Thank you Leo. My heart needed this. Living in a "red" state here in the US and feeling surrounded by ignorant small minded idiots, it does me well to hear a level headed conversation in this regard. I'm not much for labels either, but was touched when our friend TimberDrifter called me a Progressive. I certainly fit that mold and wear it proudly. Having served on a Diversity committee for many years I just can't get my head around how it could be looked down upon. I shall continue down the road, kind, compassionate and woke as hell. Be well my friend, Stephen
Hello Leo, I was not the type of person afraid of the future. I always thought that progress would find a way to get through. But for the past decade or so, with the election of Trump, I began to wonder where we were going as a civilisation. Conservatism didn't only become more popular in the US, but in a lot of other countries (Canada included). I think we have about the same age. Like you, I saw and live and grow in gender, race and diversity tolerance. We saw reconciliation between population/people (for example: the breaking of the Berlin wall, the end of Apartheid). I do not consider myself climato-anxious, or futur-anxious but I wonder what will reverse the tide of this grow of conservatism. I do not know if I will see it in what I have left in my lifetime. Best wishes my friend!
Hey Leo, good to see you! The problem I see with the notion of wokeness is when it enters the sanctimonious phase i.e. self-righteous tesla drivers who've bought hook, line and sinker the greenwash of their 60% fossil fuel, 18% nuclear, 6% hydro, 11% wind and 3% solar powered badge of 'holier than thou.' The other point of concern which few raise re gender issues is the burgeoning billion dollar medical/pharmaceutical industry of transitioning drugs and procedures along with the massive normalization campaigns of the symptomatic dysphoria (funded by the same industries) due to the abundance of endocrine disruptors from agricultural to healthcare products, Atrazine, glyphosate, BPAs, PFAS etc, that shit is everywhere and it's been taking a large and obvious toll on developing children for the last 2-3 decades. Rather than address the cause, the parasite class creates a lucrative and often tragic 'cure.' Some may have more faith in those industries, but after doing A LOT of digging and discussing, It's clear to me and the investors who advise on these medical/pharma corps, this is engineering a market and creating customers who are often in dire straits. An example, a large corporation has moved into ME, about 12 years ago IIRC, bought up and consolidated most health care providers in the state. By all accounts they are horrific, doctors/nurses fleeing in droves while administrators increased by 2500%. It's an absolute sham. Now, said corporation has a state representative on its board of directors who recently wrote a bill declaring ME a "sanctuary state" meaning any minor brought across state lines for transitioning drugs or procedures by an adult, even if against parental wishes, that adult is immune from prosecution. This was the bill's language, written by said rep and board member for Northern Light 'healthcare' (the largest sponsor to the lgbt parades/fairs here, that I saw, simply buttering up customers!): "Prohibitions- A law enforcement agency may not knowingly make or participate in the arrest or participate in any extradition of an individual pursuant to an out-of-state arrest warrant for violation of another state's law against providing, receiving or allowing a child to receive gender-affirming health care or gender-affirming mental health care in this State, if that care is lawful under the laws of this State, to the fullest extent permitted by federal law. A state or local law enforcement agency may not cooperate with or provide information to any individual (i.e. parent) or out-of-state agency or department regarding the provision of lawful gender-affirming health care or gender-affirming mental health care performed in this State." This is the pharma and medical industries attempting to create a market here in Maine, a specialty pilgrimage site really. Bill has thus far not passed. The way this whole agenda came down the pipeline, in global sync should tell us much. The endocrine disruptor problem is real, it is rampant and it is being covered up with DEI wokeness. Don't believe me, give PubMed and the medical servers a search, give Dr Shanna Swan an ear for a spell. czcams.com/video/OJNcV12xJfw/video.html To even say this is to bring on the wrath of the woke fundamentalist. Bottom line for me personally, just the old school: if you're a decent person of ANY color or persuasion, you have my respect and I have your back. And for the record: here in the US and I suspect most established countries, the right and left are of the same parasite class that has always clawed it's way to dominion over the Earth and its plebs. It's time to depolarize, try it next time in a heated or not so heated political debate, point out both sides are shit and most times you'll quickly be faced with a human again rather than an entrenched repeater unit! Plebs unite, there is ONE class of parasite running us into the ground, on all fronts. Well, you asked what we thought Leo!:)
Well Leo my friend! I quite fucking agree...I just usually don't say it quite so frankly! The world is going to progress, we just need to decide how we want it to....for all or just for some? The alternatives to "wokeness" are intolerable to me: childish, ignorant, backward, selfish, hateful, rude, self-centered, non-inclusive, unawares and "asleep"! All things I try to purge from myself, from childhood....as you've said! Thank you for so eloquently speaking your mind! Take care, Corey
I get where you're coming from. Like any concept, it's extremes that ruin it. By that I mean that the concepts are well intentioned and valid but not always so much the way they're executed.
Hear, f-ing hear! This is not about being on the right or left, it is about being a decent human being. I grew up in a small rural town and I just did not understand what people were so afraid of. Personally, I don’t hate liberals but they do often disappoint me. Capitalism, being the dominant economic system, so much relies on creating minority enemies to kick down on, that is why we have to abandon capitalism as the dominent economic framework. Be well my friend. Emil
@@TinFoilHatPipeDude I feel those who throw the word “woke” around as an insult mostly do not understand that liberal and progressive are two different things. Much less that neoliberalism is Henry Ford’s wet dream come true. Diversity, equity, and inclusion for the purposes of economic gain don’t seem to be very lofty ideals to me, either. On their own, absolutely. But it seems the only way we make things matter in the US is if we can boil it down to “return on investment”.
I generally agree - I feel like talking about the concept of "woke" lends validity to the ridiculous label. I'm just a crabby Gen-X dude that doesn't like labels generally. DEI is the new CRT, and it goes on and on - just racists being racists. Be who you want to be, I'll respect you - but I might just nod and walk away if you scream at me that your pronoun is "butterfly" or something like that. Not a big fan or right wing c#nts myself either. Had to comment though - all 3 comments so far are from the U.S. Pacific Northwest, a hotbed of dissention.
Thank you Leo. My heart needed this. Living in a "red" state here in the US and feeling surrounded by ignorant small minded idiots, it does me well to hear a level headed conversation in this regard. I'm not much for labels either, but was touched when our friend TimberDrifter called me a Progressive. I certainly fit that mold and wear it proudly. Having served on a Diversity committee for many years I just can't get my head around how it could be looked down upon.
I shall continue down the road, kind, compassionate and woke as hell.
Be well my friend,
Stephen
Hello Leo,
I was not the type of person afraid of the future. I always thought that progress would find a way to get through. But for the past decade or so, with the election of Trump, I began to wonder where we were going as a civilisation. Conservatism didn't only become more popular in the US, but in a lot of other countries (Canada included).
I think we have about the same age. Like you, I saw and live and grow in gender, race and diversity tolerance. We saw reconciliation between population/people (for example: the breaking of the Berlin wall, the end of Apartheid).
I do not consider myself climato-anxious, or futur-anxious but I wonder what will reverse the tide of this grow of conservatism. I do not know if I will see it in what I have left in my lifetime.
Best wishes my friend!
Hey Leo, good to see you!
The problem I see with the notion of wokeness is when it enters the sanctimonious phase i.e. self-righteous tesla drivers who've bought hook, line and sinker the greenwash of their 60% fossil fuel, 18% nuclear, 6% hydro, 11% wind and 3% solar powered badge of 'holier than thou.'
The other point of concern which few raise re gender issues is the burgeoning billion dollar medical/pharmaceutical industry of transitioning drugs and procedures along with the massive normalization campaigns of the symptomatic dysphoria (funded by the same industries) due to the abundance of endocrine disruptors from agricultural to healthcare products, Atrazine, glyphosate, BPAs, PFAS etc, that shit is everywhere and it's been taking a large and obvious toll on developing children for the last 2-3 decades. Rather than address the cause, the parasite class creates a lucrative and often tragic 'cure.'
Some may have more faith in those industries, but after doing A LOT of digging and discussing, It's clear to me and the investors who advise on these medical/pharma corps, this is engineering a market and creating customers who are often in dire straits.
An example, a large corporation has moved into ME, about 12 years ago IIRC, bought up and consolidated most health care providers in the state. By all accounts they are horrific, doctors/nurses fleeing in droves while administrators increased by 2500%. It's an absolute sham. Now, said corporation has a state representative on its board of directors who recently wrote a bill declaring ME a "sanctuary state" meaning any minor brought across state lines for transitioning drugs or procedures by an adult, even if against parental wishes, that adult is immune from prosecution. This was the bill's language, written by said rep and board member for Northern Light 'healthcare' (the largest sponsor to the lgbt parades/fairs here, that I saw, simply buttering up customers!):
"Prohibitions- A law enforcement agency may not knowingly make or participate in the arrest or participate in any extradition of an individual pursuant to an out-of-state arrest warrant for violation of another state's law against providing, receiving or allowing a child to receive gender-affirming health care or gender-affirming mental health care in this State, if that care is lawful under the laws of this State, to the fullest extent permitted by federal law. A state or local law enforcement agency may not cooperate with or provide information to any individual (i.e. parent) or out-of-state agency or department regarding the provision of lawful gender-affirming health care or gender-affirming mental health care performed in this State."
This is the pharma and medical industries attempting to create a market here in Maine, a specialty pilgrimage site really. Bill has thus far not passed.
The way this whole agenda came down the pipeline, in global sync should tell us much. The endocrine disruptor problem is real, it is rampant and it is being covered up with DEI wokeness. Don't believe me, give PubMed and the medical servers a search, give Dr Shanna Swan an ear for a spell. czcams.com/video/OJNcV12xJfw/video.html To even say this is to bring on the wrath of the woke fundamentalist. Bottom line for me personally, just the old school: if you're a decent person of ANY color or persuasion, you have my respect and I have your back.
And for the record: here in the US and I suspect most established countries, the right and left are of the same parasite class that has always clawed it's way to dominion over the Earth and its plebs. It's time to depolarize, try it next time in a heated or not so heated political debate, point out both sides are shit and most times you'll quickly be faced with a human again rather than an entrenched repeater unit! Plebs unite, there is ONE class of parasite running us into the ground, on all fronts.
Well, you asked what we thought Leo!:)
Well Leo my friend!
I quite fucking agree...I just usually don't say it quite so frankly!
The world is going to progress, we just need to decide how we want it to....for all or just for some?
The alternatives to "wokeness" are intolerable to me: childish, ignorant, backward, selfish, hateful, rude, self-centered, non-inclusive, unawares and "asleep"!
All things I try to purge from myself, from childhood....as you've said!
Thank you for so eloquently speaking your mind!
Take care,
Corey
Life was never simpler. Fucking nostalgia trap. Punching down is about fear of change. 14:37
I get where you're coming from. Like any concept, it's extremes that ruin it. By that I mean that the concepts are well intentioned and valid but not always so much the way they're executed.
Abso-fucking-lutely well said! My god. I wish I were as well-stated as you are. Thank you for sharing this!!
Hear, f-ing hear! This is not about being on the right or left, it is about being a decent human being. I grew up in a small rural town and I just did not understand what people were so afraid of. Personally, I don’t hate liberals but they do often disappoint me. Capitalism, being the dominant economic system, so much relies on creating minority enemies to kick down on, that is why we have to abandon capitalism as the dominent economic framework.
Be well my friend.
Emil
@@TinFoilHatPipeDude I feel those who throw the word “woke” around as an insult mostly do not understand that liberal and progressive are two different things. Much less that neoliberalism is Henry Ford’s wet dream come true.
Diversity, equity, and inclusion for the purposes of economic gain don’t seem to be very lofty ideals to me, either. On their own, absolutely. But it seems the only way we make things matter in the US is if we can boil it down to “return on investment”.
I generally agree - I feel like talking about the concept of "woke" lends validity to the ridiculous label. I'm just a crabby Gen-X dude that doesn't like labels generally. DEI is the new CRT, and it goes on and on - just racists being racists. Be who you want to be, I'll respect you - but I might just nod and walk away if you scream at me that your pronoun is "butterfly" or something like that. Not a big fan or right wing c#nts myself either. Had to comment though - all 3 comments so far are from the U.S. Pacific Northwest, a hotbed of dissention.
There’s also ProgressPiper from Australia. ;)
@@cascadianpiper Ah - when I started typing, it was just us 3. You in OR, WA, or BC?
@@pnwesty7174 I’m in western WA about 20 min south of the Canadian border.