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No apologies needed Reverend. Ty for upload. As a believer I will let no mere man detract me from God nor even consider a man above my faith in Christ Jesus.
@@RT-tn3pu Amen brother. Trump has actually shown me the light and clearer path to follow, and what to watch out for on life's journey.
When your thoughts are as good as this then it's not too long.
From a hopeful agnostic. THX
Religion is the worst thing to ever happen to Christianity in my humble opinion. …..your kind being the exception.🥰You’re doing it right, Reverend Ed. Correctly I should say…..🥰
Sorry for long video?! No way You have to be sorry. It's the message that's important - short or long! This time long because it needed to be.
They used each other and both sides knew exactly what they was doing.
@@mrhistorybuff As a fellow "History Buff, I would say, that it was gradually realising that there was zero evidence for the existence of any kind of Divine guidance in the affairs of humans,; combined with an exam level knowledge of the bible, that made me an atheist. Was that similar to your experience?
Exactly
Exactly right!
Exactly!
Didn't the bible warn us about this very thing?!?
The GOP has used the evangelicals for decades. It's nothing new to me. I've seen it since at least Ronald Reagan. It's sad.
Correct, but it was a two way street. They used each other to the detriment of both, I believe.
@@contrafax no doubt about that. It's always a bad idea to mix politics and religion because politics is money, power and greed in most cases. You're basically putting out fire with gasoline.
They have been in bed with each other since Jerry Fallwell and Pat Robertson saw it as their ticket to spread their campaign against abortion and the LGBTQ+ community. To this day people like my own elderly Mother have the viewpoint of "as long as they are saving babies & stopping gays", nothing else they do matters... this tacit approval of everything else up to and including "white nationalism", election deniers, and even the Jan 6th insurrection is why their "moral high ground" is completely meaningless!
Checkout “Theocracy Watch” here on CZcams, after Goldwater lost to Johnson in 1964 it was decided republicans needed to jump into bed with the evangelicals.
What this guy said.
Thank you so much for this. Finally a Christian seeing things the right way. I lost words when I noticed churches relying on a human being (Trump) more than they relied on Jesus Christ.
They made #45 their god!!!!!!!!
@@karenreynolds349 They call him the orange jesus
Yup you nailed it! And, they dismissed the warning in the Bible: "Don’t put your trust in mere humans." - Isa 2:22a Not only did they ignore this warning from God, they elevated Trump to a status above Jesus Christ! How is it that so many people allowed themselves to be consumed and enamored by a sinful, criminal bully and narcissist like Donald J Trump? I mean, if the pastor told them to jump off the Empire State building, would they do it?
Trump provided the permission structure to behave like exceptionally ignorant, intolerant, and hateful children and in exchange they agreed to worship him as their god. It’s not an exaggeration and you all know it in your heart.
You cannot follow a liar, and Jesus Christ at the same time. They are going into totally opposite directions.
Amen! Thank you, my Brother. Black evangelicals tried to tell our White brothers & sisters this from DAY ONE. Thank you for your truthful courage.
Not all people of color stood up this dangerous man. Why? Because skin color has zero to do with it. We need to stop labeling people especially via skin color. That doesn’t define who we are. Character matters what’s inside. That is what Christians are supposed to display character a character like Christs NOT like our own. Trump is a fascist and the American church wants control period.
So, have you been voting for Democrats, then? The ones that support the murder of innocent babies? And you call yourself a Christian?
EXACTLY 💯%
Many Chicano Evangelicals tried too. They didn't listen to us either.
Some of the best Pastors/Prophets we have lost to politics.
I remember when President Carter came to power in the 1970s, people were afraid he would be too religious because of his Southern Baptist background but what a great example of a Christian he is, working for peace, building houses for the poor when he was in his 80s, he has the great gift of tolerance and acceptance of those who are different.
Absolutely agree. We need to follow the original Golden Rule again, not MAGA's version which states "He who has the gold rules"
My belief has always been that Jimmy Carter was too good of a man to be an effective President. He seemed to have strong morals and ethics and I think that impairs one's ability to get anything substantive done in Washington.
@@PoppaCYS A few points regarding Carter’s Administration. First, he inherited a really tough economic situation, of stagnant growth and inflation. It was called “stagflation” because unlike previous recessions, it was accompanied by inflation, instead of deflation. The causes were complex, but were chiefly due to the Vietnam War (after every US war, historically speaking, the U.S. economy has always undergone a period of inflation), and to two oil shortage crises: 1) in 1973, during the October 1973 War between Israel, and Egypt & Syria; Arab state oil producers enacted an oil embargo against the U.S., and any other nation which offered aid (predominantly military aid) to Israel. 2) in 1978-1979, when the Iranian Revolution took place, and Ayatollah Khomeini came to power.
Now Nixon, Ford and Carter ALL had to face the economic difficulties, and both Nixon and Ford were unable to solve those problems. And while the oil shortage caused by the upheaval in Iran happened after they had left office, they, along with Carter had to face a problematic economy due to inflation and oil shortages. Many people seem to forget the 1973 oil crisis, which led to the rise of OPEC, and its desire to maximize profits by limiting oil exportation from OPEC nations. So it wasn’t just Carter who had to struggle to deal with this.
It also wasn’t Carter’s fault that the Iranian Revolution occurred. The seeds of that revolution actually date back to 1953, when the Eisenhower Administration, somewhat at the behest of the British government, engineered a coup which overthrew the Iranian democratic government under Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadegh, and installed the Shah not as a constitutional monarch, with limited power, but as an autocratic despotic monarchy, which was deeply unpopular with the Iranian people. That coup was the primary cause of the Iranian Revolution in 1978-79, and US involvement in the coup was WHY the U.S. was labeled “the great Satan” by the Mullahs (who weren’t interested in a Mossadegh type democratic, secular led, government).
Obviously, Carter played no role in that 1953 coup. But it was one of the reasons why the U.S. Embassy was overrun by young revolutionaries, and why the personnel there were taken hostage. The 1953 coup was planned in the U.S. Embassy. The Iranians were very much aware of that fact, though I doubt that most Americans were. This doesn’t justify the taking of hostages, but it does help us understand WHY it happened.
While Carter struggled with domestic policy, he did have two major accomplishments. First, he personally negotiated a lasting peace agreement between Israel and Egypt, which had always been Israel’s biggest military threat, because of the sheer size of its military. That brought some stability, however limited, to the region. Even with subsequent conflicts that Israel was involved with, that peace agreement has lasted to this day.
Second, Carter successfully negotiated the release of every single hostage taken by Iran, albeit too late to win him a second term. Indeed, Carter was still negotiating on the last day of his presidency, up all night on the eve of the Inauguration of Ronald Reagan. But it was Carter, not Reagan, who got those hostages home.
In terms of domestic policy, a lot of the problems stemmed from Carter’s inexperience, especially in dealing with Congress, even though Congress was controlled by the Democratic Party. Carter was very much an outsider, and filled his Administration with outsiders, and thus had no officials who were skilled and experienced in how to get legislation passed through Congress. Carter was also more conservative (especially fiscally conservative) than many members of Congress, and this was the end of the New Deal Coalition which controlled Congress - a coalition between two branches of the Democratic Party- northern liberals and southern conservatives. Carter was somewhere in the middle; he wasn’t a segregationist, but he wasn’t as liberal as the northern wing of his party. This is what caused Senator Edward Kennedy to challenge Carter for the 1980 Democratic Nomination for president, and sitting presidents who face a strong primary challenge are usually weakened as a result.
As a matter of fact, the same thing occurred to Republican President George HW Bush in 1992, when he faced a strong challenge in the primaries by Pat Buchanan, and Bush, like Carter, went on to lose the general election.
So Carter had his flaws, like all men do, but he was also unfortunate in the circumstances he inherited. Had he won re-election in 1980, he would be remembered far differently than he was, for the policies of Paul Volcker, whom Carter appointed to Chair the Federal Reserve, did finally tame inflation, albeit at the cost of a severe recession in the early 1980s. But the economy was finally recovering strongly by 1984, for which Reagan, somewhat unjustly, received all the credit.
One other factor that I’d like to mention is that one other reason for the decade long slump in the US economy in the 1970s was because by that time, Western Europe and Japan had finally recovered from the devastation to their economies and infrastructure caused by World War Two. The US didn’t endure that kind of devastation, and thus had a huge lead in the post-war era, but by the 1970’s other nations were catching up. That might have caused trouble in the US economy, but was actually good for the overall economy of key U.S. allies in Europe and East Asia (Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, especially).
@@PoppaCYS You're possibly right. However the flip side is that if they don't have morals and ethics, the things they get done aren't the things we want done.
Folks forget religious dem Carter also brought on unbelievable inflation, and rationed pump fuel, long lines for ev other day? Nation was rescued in yr or two by Pres Ronald Reagan, but inflation prices remained?
I left my church when the pastor said that it was our Christian duty to vote for Trump. After going to several churches and hearing anti-gay, anti-everything messages, I thought I'd never find a Church that would speak to me. Until now. Keep up spreading this message. There are many lost sheep who need to hear this.
Try messianic judaism....I too left 6-7 years ago for all the reason this guy says is now the result? How could the 'leaders' NOT have seen this, when I a simple lay person feared tgis result. NO ONE would listen. I realized the western church was OFF THE MARK!!! Found a messianic synagogue...Jewish BELIEVERS in Yeshua!!!! czcams.com/video/xSSekixCB5Y/video.html
Solid biblical teaching and societal views!!!
I also left my church when the Pastor said those that went to Washington on January 6th went there to pray, and were proclaiming Jesus, Lord over America at the Capitol Hill.
I did also. Walked out in the middle of the pastors service.
Amen! man was not meant to “ over man “.
I did the same.
I am no longer a Republican.. and you are so correct. God is Love above All! Amen.
Beautiful message…thank you The entire relationship between Trump and the evangelicals is the epitome of selling one’s soul to the devil
Yup
Well said, when satan gets them focused on abortion, he sneaks Trump in the back door.
I have been a believer for over 60 years... these past 6 years, I have been calling myself a "Follower of Jesus." I was too ashamed to say I was a Christian because so many in the church had embraced politicians who were anything but Christians. I have been saying that these people have been giving Jesus a bad name. As you say, the damage is done and the price will be high.
I too don't use the term Christian, I call myself a believer.
You took the words right out of my mouth!
Wow... understand completely
Stating one is a follower of Jesus clarifies one is not a part of the fake religious system that Jesus rejected.
Same. I want to be distinguished from evangelicals which is a shame.
We TRIED to tell them. Heck, 1/3 of Evangelicals themselves TRIED to tell them! They * wanted * what Trump was selling - pride, avarice, ambition, authoritarianism, and, let's face it, permission to hate.
Bottom line the permission to hate and spread the hate!!!!!
Bingo
How did you all “try”? NOW you’re talking.
@@Smooshes786 People of all kinds were saying it from the very beginning, on a daily basis for years, and people who wanted to support Trump told us all, very nastily, to shut up and that we had "Trump Derangement Syndrome." They're still saying that, right now, as he's standing trial for some of his many crimes. Some of us have permanently lost relationships with friends and relatives who wouldn't stop verbally abusing us for what we tried to tell them all along, and it's years too late to take it all back and pretend it didn't happen. Can't you Trump supporters just stop lying and trying to fake your way through life, just once?
Evangelicals have closely allied with christian nationalists and other far-right extremist groups for many years.
Donald Trump has given them permission to finally live their truth openly and honestly, which didn't amount to even half of it during Reagan/Bush or Bush/Quayle of the 1980s and early 90s. Now with Trump, Evangelicals can be the extremists that they probably always wanted to be.
Imagine the joy and happiness of people who no longer have to hide who they really are....and the shock and disbelief of those to whom they were exposed.
Think about that.
This made me weep. I feel like my religion and my flag were taken from me by these hateful people. I don’t know if I can ever go back to church. I don’t know if I can ever again fly the American flag. The home that was my faith and my country has become unrecognizable.
I mourned the loss as well. Hugs
I am a retired pastor in an Evangelical denomination. And my heart is broken and I weep with you. And I don’t know what to do and I don’t know where to go.
I like the Unitarian church and United Church of Christ. Give them a try
@@GailColeman Thank you for the suggestion. Unitarian does not work for me. I can let some things go, but the Trinity is not a belief I can put aside, even temporarily. Have been to a UCC a few times. I might visit again. Being clergy, I’m pretty familiar with various denominations. I just don’t know where I fit. I’m visiting my husband in a nursing home on Sunday these days, sadly, so this means taking a break in any case. Blessings to you.
I do not know what scares me more.
The fact that so many voted for a conman to become president. And the fact that these people thinks Trump is the answer. All the while being mean to
there follow man.All the while looking for any excuse to blame a group of people.I guess times has changed the evangelicals.Choice to follow a well known conman.How about helping the sick or poor.Maybe I missed the part of the Bible wher it's alright to tell a man down on his luck.Only to be tolded to pull your self up by your boot straps.Or building the wall.Or going a round telling people to go back to their country. Never mind that their not native Americans.
A Christian CZcamsr that I used to listen to said that they knew Trump had moral failures, but he would do what they wanted. Another prominent CZcamsr said that if you were a Democrat you couldn’t be a Christian. I stopped listening to them. Thank you for sharing this message.
I've had people tell me that exact same thing.
If you vote for a Democrat you can't be a Christian.
SOOOOOO TWISTED
You cannot follow a liar, (Trump) and Jesus Christ at the same time. They are going in totally opposite directions. Anyone who cannot see that isn’t going to be swayed by any reason at all. It’s called mental illness when you believe lies that have been proven wrong time and time again.
Why? What do they base that on? I bet you they cannot say why with any credibility. I take that back, I know they can’t.
MacArthur said "if you are a True Christian you would vote Republican" as if that is the criteria for being a True Christian.
Evangelicals allowed themselves to be used.
They used yeah other.
Quite willingly.
@@timnewman1172 Amen to that!!! 🎭
Evangelicals have sold themselves to evil to obtain temporal power. You don't wriggle out of a deal with the devil so easily. "He used us" doesn't cut the mustard. They *knew* what they signed up for.
@@annalieff-saxby568 Exactly. Trump wanted the votes, and they wanted the power.
I have never understood how any person who calls themselves “Christian “ could have ever voted or supported that “sinful snake .” Thank you, you hit the nail on the head. They have wanted to turn this country into a “religious dictatorship .” I have been saying this for years. My disappointment in what these hypocrites have done to the name “Christian “ has broken my heart. Their “souls “ are in jeopardy. We all sin and need forgiveness because we are fallible humans but they are putting their own desires first and need to come to Christ again. I hope and pray for that to happen.
It's easy. They took it on faith he was god's chosen. And god never said no.
You assume that they were with Christ in the first place.
YES! SAME THING I SAID WHEN HE FIRST RAN!! MOB PROFESSIONAL CRIMINAL
@@nickokona6849 God' chosen? That's truly blind faith. There was nothing in TFG's actions or words that would have led anyone to believe this.
@@LVLexus All faith is blind faith. If it wasn't blind it'd be called evidence based belief.
And I've never once heard god tell anyone that he didn't choose Trump as a messiah.. Maybe you've got a video of god doing that.
And there are many self proclaimed prophets claiming god told them Trump was chosen.
So again. God doesn't do tie breakers.
Thank you for this message. As a follower of Jesus for 60 years I have been puzzled by the devotion of Evangelicals to Trump in spite of his ungodly behavior and the values he espoused. Those evangelicals have become the Pharisees of our time.
Thank you for speaking the truth. Every church in this country needs to keep politics out of the pulpit. Satin always does his most damage through the church and this will continue until we turn our hearts and eyes back on God.
But, the Republican party as a whole is actually like trump, just sneaky about a lot of it. It is hard to believe how deeply they have devoted themselves to trump...but really to the Republican party in general.
Religious bigots like Jerry Falwell Jr., Pat Robertson absolutely disgust me because they exploit the teachings of Jesus Christ for personal, political and financial gain while brainwashing their members in the process.
agree, followers of God by words not by heart are Pharisees, and we saw these bad apples in the Evangelicals, unfortunately there lead congregations, lead people to loosing their souls
EXACTLY
This deal with Evangelicals and Trump impresses me as a truly Faustian arrangement. If the Lord Jesus Christ were to return to this planet Earth I believe the Evangelicals would Crucify him all over again.
They made a golden Trump idol to worship, they called him son of Jesus, they hailed him as the Messiah. Now they blame him.
Couldn’t agree with you more. As an evangelical who has been dumped by many of my “friends” because I wouldn’t/couldn’t drink the Trump koolaid I’m so glad to hear someone else articulate what I’ve felt in my heart for a long time now. Thank you!
Same
The same for me as well.
Such a funny comment when clearly you also drink the "god" kool-aid.
God is not kool-aid. You have never encountered Him. And He's nothing like the Evangelical Pharasees say He is. He is the embodiment of LOVE.
@@hapennysparrow hahaha!! So is Santa.
Thank you for this sermon. It is refreshing to see a spiritual leader speak the truth.
yup, this guy is a real Sherlock Holmes,,saying stuff most of us knew from the get-go 😃
Dear Reverend, you said exactly what my heart’s been crying for these several years as I saw my family and the American church claim trump is God’s chosen. For a while I even felt lost and “wrong” that I could not accept that and saw family turn away from me and claim God would shun me. I chose not to believe them but felt alone, unsteady and unsure. Thank you for your precious words that brought in the light. God Bless!! 🙏🏻💖
My church family shunned me 7 years ago, sbd I walked away shaking the dust off my feet. I have been going solo ever since, but love all the more. Be strong. You came through with your integrity intact, and your faith pure.
@@hapennysparrow Thank you so much, Leilani! Your encouragement means so much to me. God Bless! 💖
You can never be lost and wrong when you make the decision to follow Jesus and not man, no matter who it is. Blessings to you.🙏🏽
@@cr8338 Thank you so much! I so appreciate your kind words! ❤
@@hapennysparrow you are never alone. Christ walks with you. Stand on the Word of God. That's what will stand. The people must repent and turn from their evil ways. Now
Im confused about how evangelicals ever believed that trump was a christian or even respected them.
They had an agenda, trump needed the votes. He pushed their agenda and got their votes AND their money!
They didnt.... I asked my pastor, how could he support such a man....he said Abortion, then I heard, he got born again. HA!, excuse after excuse to WANT it to be. DECEIT will rule the world in the end days!!!!! And then I promptly left the western Christian church... and landed in a messianic synagogue who has it all right....and only care about what God says, His Word and Yeshua. FAITH in God. NO POLITICS!!!
czcams.com/video/xSSekixCB5Y/video.html. Message starts at minute 1:37
Thank you for making this video. As a person of color (American Indian), I had long struggled with the history of the church. However, my mom and I have always been devout, Bible studying and believing Christians. While we were sad that the church had never apologized for its past misdeeds, we thought that the modern church would never condone the racist actions of the past. Now that the church is voting for and promoting white supremacist, immigrant hating, anti-Semitic candidates, neither of us feel that there is a place for us in the church 😢 The Bible teaches us to love and care for all of humanity. Why is the church full of hate? Politicians like Marjorie Taylor-Greene are calling themselves Christian nationalists, which actually means Christian white supremacists. (Christian Nationalist is a term from the pro-segregation era!). It feels like the church has doubled down on the racist behavior of it’s past 😢 How are people of color supposed to feel welcome?
Hi Danielle. I was raised Lutheran but have deconstructed my reliance on supernatural beliefs. I’m white, but was fortunate to be able to teach in a public school with many American Indian kids. Thank you for posting your thoughts. The indigenous cultures of some of my ancestors echo in the days of the week in English …The Sun, the Moon, Tiw, Woden, Thor, Fria, Saturn. Whatever your particular heritage, I hope you have opportunities, or create opportunities, to hear their echo. I do hope you find fellowship meaningful to you among good people. I enjoy the CZcams creator “Patrick is A Navajo “ - it’s mostly just goofy stuff from Indian Country. He’s always smiling…you know that resilient smile right…but he has some very real commentary and he likes to feature “Natives doing Cool and Awesome Things” … check it out. Also, have you seen the film “Frozen River”? It’s set at Christmas and deals with some themes you might find especially genuine. It’s not a “feel good” film but it explores redemption between a white mother and an Indian mother …not your usual film. Then there’s “Sami Blood” which explores historical trauma, boarding schools, internal conflicts and cultural appropriation. The Sami, as you may know, are the Reindeer Herders of the Arctic, the indigenous Europeans. They aren’t Elves, but their culture was appropriated into that. Both have Serious adult themes (but not sexy or extreme violence). Anyway, thanks again for posting. What films or CZcams creators do you appreciate?
Very well said. And I agree with you 100%.
Great, feel the same way. They wonder why church attendance is down and rhe republicans wonder why people don't vote for them.
@@cipherklosenuf9242 and what do you find to be a "supernatural belief" about this?
Why would you sign up for the same religion that gave the OK for the very genocide of your own people? Fuk Christianity. It’s a SCAM.
Thank you for this video as a person of color who has been in church all my life and have a passion for Christ wondered if I and my BFF where the only people who felt that the church had totally strayed away from what we were called and should be doing. I don’t believe in a lot of things that are happening in this world but the word say through love and kindness have I drawn thee. I don’t try to tell anyone how they should live their life (my life is a mess so who am I to tell someone else how to live)but I do try and show them the love of Christ.
I no longer call myself a Christian but a follower of Christ and let me tell you that ain’t as easy to do as you think everyday be it small or large I sin because am not perfect and there are time I need to check my mouth before I open it. I no longer have a church but I still seek God word daily and pray for his guidance throughout the day.
We are in the end of the end. The Bible is thousands of years old. However, no matter when you read it; it is CURRENT NEWS! READ THE BOOK of Revelations! New World ORDER is happening before our face! I said, the SCRIPTURES ARE CURRENT! WE ARE SMACK dab in Revelations! New World ORDER! Signs all around in our faces!!! In the last days, men will be lovers of themselves! Children disobedient; Most cannot put their phones down! ADDICTION TO THE PHONES! GOD'S WORD DECLARES THAT times will become so bad, people are going to want to commit suicide and death will flee from them! Elohim/Father God will have the last word! The office of "President" was Honorable! But when to act like the "Thugs" you talk about; bully; crimes; in front of both children & adults! When the President can Master MIND and even threaten his LOYAL WHITE VP to hang him and he still get to walk around bullying, you know it's Horrible! When the Church Leaders validate his wrong; false Prophets, Pastors, etc. BOOK OF REVELATION! The Scriptures say, Judgement begins at the House of God! Wolves in Sheep clothing!
Nikita, I love you and pray for u and ur bff. I feel the same way.
Preach Pastor! My heart ❤️ is weeping! Thank you so very much for this sermon!
This. So much this. Since Trump came to power and “Christians” started treating him like he was Jesus returned to Earth, I have struggled a lot with my own faith. And one of my closest friends has abandoned her faith completely. The damage people who claim to be christians has done is severe. They see more and more people abandoning the church and then they have the nerve to look around with a shocked Pikachu face or claim it is all the fault of someone else. They are the ones who made a deal with the devil to get what they want, no one else.
It seems that the Evangelicals are predisposed to find someone to worship and that paired perfectly with Trump's narcissism that feeds off of being adored. #toxic
Well said and so true!
I agree with much of what was presented in the video. However, I do have a question about your comment. I am curious why is the word Christians in quotes. Is this to denote that they are Christians in name only and not real Christians?
If quotes are being used to denote that they are not real Christians I would caution against this sort of rhetoric. Coming from the agonistic/atheist community I have seen the exact same rhetoric to other those who leave the church, to dismiss legitimate reasons for doing so, and to cast anyone who might disagree as non-Christian. To call these people fake Christians causes one to not self reflect, to not look at their own church and try to see the structures and practices which allow people to fall prey to these ideas so easily. That and it also is a no true Scotsman fallacy ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman )
Additionally, from what I have seen, everyone has a slightly different idea of what a Christian is, and who would qualify as one. I am willing to bet if you put 5 Christians in a room and asked for a definition, you would end up getting 6 different definitions, and perhaps a few people claiming at least one other is not a true Christian..
@@kurtfrederiksen5538 They call themselves christians but they sure as hell do not follow the teaching of christ, except at best go to church on a sunday to keep up appearances.
I'm an agnostic that has been to a church to visit about a handful of times in my life for different reasons and im definitely more of a follower of christ teachings than any them are.
It's not that hard to follow "don't be an asshole" teachings but they apparently failed.
I am so disgusted that I have also abandoned Christianity. I say this as I put up my Christmas tree, and plan for a Christmas visit to my daughter. I have questioned Christianity since I was a child. Oh, I tried to get into it, but the overwhelming hypocrisy throughout history has made me realize how firmly I can see that even from the beginning it may have all been just another big grift - a way to amass money and power over people by appealing to their better nature, and their worse as well.
When you search history for the roots of the New Testament, it's clear smoke and mirrors. All these people who like to "quote chapter and verse" need to step right back! Remember, God did NOT write the Bible. It might be really old, but gee, haven't we come a long way since then? Don't you think God would want you to use your brain to see clearly instead?
As an atheist who was raised in a Christian home, I can tell that you take what you say seriously and you approach it with thoughtfulness and humility. WWJD
Well said, sir. Thank you for your video. Found it accidentally. I have been a psychotherapist for over 30 years, and have done some research into why people were duped by Trump. You added a very insightful perspective into this and the cult of personality.
I feel this so deeply as a Christian woman. Thank you.
If more ministers were like you, I wouldn’t have left it. Thank you!
Rev Trevors scared the heck out of me the first time I listened to him. I’m 68, I’d never followed a Pastor before, had never trusted one. I like our community here, there’s folks from all walks of life. All inclusive, no judgement, all free to voice their thoughts. 😎
The only church I ever go to
Me too I left the church as a Catholic WHY ? Pushing hate is not being a good Catholic or a decent person . I decided to just be a decent person. whenI do good I feel good .
I add the Rev to those who I allow to guide me. I continue to question and do not blindly follow, however. Now I have begun to also read more about stoicism which feels like a good fit as an independent thinking christian. Be a good and moral human. That is a my life goal.
I count Rev Ed as my own pastor ❤
Having been a Christian for the past 63 years, I find you to speak truth like few others today. The damage that has been done to the Church and to Christ's name by those who falsely claim to be Christians is repulsive. Thank you for standing up for Christ and for boldly speaking truth.
Yes. I truly believe that most, do not recognize the extent of the damage to the church.
Sadly, the evangelicals who supported Trump see themselves as the true defenders of the faith.
Are you 63 years old? If so, then you were indoctrinated. Someone made your choice FOR you. Not all religions are so manipulative as Christianity. Not only did I not ask for anyone to die for my sins, but Jesus also didn't stay dead. Classic example of gaslighting. Not trying to sound abrasive here. But nothing I stated here is false. Assuming you are 63.
@@stupidd6513 Nope, I'm 73. I made my own choice then, and I continue to make my own choice now. Jesus didn't die for your sins because you asked Him, he did because He loves you. It's a free gift. Take it and change your life. Praying for you friend.
@@summerfi the idea of him dieing for my sin completely voids the idea of morality which is why Christians tend to commit more crimes then none Christians. And you made the choice at ten? Not much of a choice did you still believe in Santa at the time?
I had a philosophy professor in college. He was the only one who taught philisophy, comparative religions, ethics and logic. This was Lamar University in Beaumont Tx back in the late 80s. There were about 7 of us who happened to take all his classes and all became really good friends. Dr George Wall was his name. He was the most brilliant man ive ever known. The way he spoke reminds me of this man. Not once did we ever hear one word of hate come out of his mouth. He invited us to his home for dinners and discussions. We visited mosques, synogogues, buddhist temples and christian churches. Never did we hear anything other than love and acceptance. As a person of faith I appreciate hearing such a wonderful message this man is offering us. My point is that we werent born to hate. We learned it from somewhere and I refuse to let anyone hinder my path towards enightenment. Please reflect inwards and if you are struggling with hate in your heart, pray, seek giudance through your faith or by whatever means you wish to gain that love in your heart towards your fellow man.
I was a lapsed Catholic for 20 years. Finally went back in 2019, went a faithful year to mass. Then the priest started with the political homilies, he said if you disagree you should find another church. I have stopped going.
Thank you for saying what needs to be said! The Evangelicals are paying a very high price for following Trump who is the embodiment of EVERYTHING that opposes Christian teachings. The Christian faith has been greatly tarnished because of it!!
HOW can people follow someone to such a low place, and still call it Godly?
@@olgaharris1103 they went willingly and without question. Trump hit every note of their darkness like a band leader. And they revelled in it. It will be noted on judgement day.
yes, those who have abandoned and forgotten God, can't and won't lead
@@olgaharris1103 The same reason they stormed the capitol to prevent the results of an election while calling themselves Patriots. They're so convinced that the other side is evil incarnate who're trying to destroy the nation that they will take any steps necessary, thinking they're the heroes in the right.
@@olgaharris1103 They thought it would profit them personally and that they could get away with it, and that's about it. The only part of it that can probably be called an honest "mistake" was thinking that there wouldn't be any consequences for it.
As a Christian, I have been trying to get evangelicals to see this for years!!! Since Reagan days , really. I am disgusted by how stupid people of faith can be! I know it was just about packing the Supreme Court, but their complete indifference to the Christ they claim to follow is what disgusts me!
I too left 6-7 years ago for all the reason this guy says is now the result? How could the 'leaders' NOT have seen this, when I a simple lay person feared this result. SOOOOOI obvisous but NO ONE would listen. I realized the western church was OFF THE MARK!!! Found a messianic synagogue...Jewish BELIEVERS in Yeshua!!!! czcams.com/video/xSSekixCB5Y/video.html
Solid biblical teaching and societal views!!!
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Spot on Jan!!!!!
We work together Monday through Friday, cheer for the same teams on Saturday and separate ourselves on Sunday...the world sees this better than we do...😶🌫️
You can thank the shameful Falwells. POS
I’m a non believer who respects all views of religion. Your video should be watched by everyone.
I woke up around 5:00 and couldn’t go back to sleep. I wanted to listen to a sermon and my Heavenly Father led me to this video, thanks so much for sharing this for us.
It is so refreshing to hear this message.
I will use this quote, “When someone shows you who they are believe them the first time.” ― Maya Angelou. Evangelicals were not used they are not victims. The whole world knew who Trump was waaaaaay before he ran for President. Reap what you sow.
Bingo on all counts. I was a Republican and an Evangelical in the 1970's through the early 1990's. I knew that the affiliation between the church and politics was going to end disastrously. I could not have imagined then, though, that it would be as bad as it became. I never believed that the church would completely abandon Scripture and Christ for idolatry, sacrilege, and complete ugliness. But it did. Now, when I run across any kind of minister for the first time, I wonder if s/he supported all of that and even supported the insurrection. I wonder if that person is a false prophet and how much cash that person has raked in catering to Trump and his supporters.
The Crusades - even the awfulness related to homes for children and the way in which First Nations were treated were bad enough - but they were long before my time. This far-reaching, encompassing church/political scandal... Well, it is today, right now, and we all - the entire civilized world - has heard the spoken vitriol, the anger, the rage, the hatred, and the chants of the so-called "religious" people. We have seen them, lined up in the Capitol, carrying Nazi flags and Confederate flags, even wearing shirts that read "Six Million (dead Jews) was not enough".
We have read posts online from many of these people - sometimes, posts that would make a sailor blush. We have watched as these same people in Megachurches professed to know the mind of God, who told the leaders that Trump was going to be re-elected. We all watched as some of these same pastors laid hands on Trump and lifted him up, to protect him from what?? Truth? We cannot unsee what we have seen, or unhear what we have heard, or unread what we have read, or unwitness what we have witnessed. So many pretenders. So many charlatans appeared and willingly gave up their Biblical beliefs rather than give up Trump and political power. There is no nadir lower than that.
The people who acceded to these perversities can not ever be believed again. They have destroyed their reputations, and their churches - and a very large part of the Church has been destroyed with it. Who knows what remnants remain? This has been a tragedy for the Church, one of the most significant pillars in our society. Can it be rebuilt within a couple of lifetimes? Who could trust it again? I don't believe that it can be rebuilt in what remains of my lifetime. Where will those without hope go for solace? This destruction almost seems concocted by the Adversary.
I'm so glad that my parents and grandparents were not here to see what has happened to the Church. They would have sat with me in disbelief as one "pastor" after another sold his soul on the political auction block. To call this a "tragedy" would be a deep understatement.
A perfect representation of my thoughts exactly. I am a believer of Christ and have been appalled at the actions of the evangelicals, so much so I can't see going back to church ever. The damage is irreparable in my lifetime anyway. How could they all be so blind?
Very well expressed.
I don't like the notion that the human race is God's chosen battleground against the Adversary. Couldn't they both have found something else to do rather than inventing us to fight over?
@@bcornel5923 When I was a child in the Deep South during the CRM, 3 non-black members joined our small black Catholic parish and never left. U may find some solace in a progressive black church.
My sentiments exactly! Sadly, there’s more death, destruction, divisiveness and disruption yet to come. We may not have seen the worst of it. 🙏🏾
I knew Trump was using the church 6 years ago. You said it so well. I totally agree with what you said.
I knew it over 40 decades ago with the advent of Jerry Falwell and Newt Gingrich, really from Ronald Reagan, not to mention the tele-evangelists who always were a con. It has been insidious, incremental, undermining, dismantling all for the sake of raw power. It's been since 1980 that the US has slowly gone downhill, stagnant wages, job losses, fewer opportunities, more hate, and more divisions. All because most humans have this odd need to "follow", you know, like sheep. Maybe that's the problem that needs addressing; if there are no sheep, there would be no religion. Think outside the box, people.
Dear Rev. Ed:
Your last 5 minutes or so discussing the high price to be paid gave me chills. THANK YOU. Who Trump is was already glaringly evident from the beginning, his entire life's work is his showcase. It was AWESOMELY nightmarish to see all these leaders lay hands on him and claim that God needed a mobster to do His Will. What kind of wizened, twisted, warped god do they worship?: a god who can chose only a criminal to do his will? Jan 6th, the recent anti-constitutional remarks, etc., what other fruit could be expected from all the things that he already had done even before 2015? We already have a gallery packed full of 20th century authoritarian demigods to have learned from. Thank you for your impactful, simple statement.
Well spoken. What kind of God needs a mobster to do His will, indeed. I was gobsmacked the first time I heard the horror that trump was somehow chosen by God, but I of course heard it a number of times since. That turned me against the church, probably forever. An institution that preaches love and humility but supports hatred and worldy power has nothing positive to offer humanity. Sorry, Jesus, not your fault.
Number One rule of dancing with the Devil: Don't
I was told once… “The devil doesn’t come with a pitchfork and a pointed tail. The devil comes dressed as everything you’ve ever wanted.”
The reason for the separation of church and state explained soooo well.
Amen! He is absolutely correct! We must repent and ask God for forgiveness.
Thank you for this. A Cautionary Tale and Sadly A Dark Reality. I Pray Your Message Will Guide Us Back To Our True God and Savior
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I used to be catholic, now I'm an atheist. One of the things keeping me from even considering going back to religion is what you mentioned: the amount of questionable things committed. Not in the "some Christians are bad therefore all of Christianity is wrong" more in the "I'd expect the followers of what's allegedly a perfect being to act in a more coherent and loving manner"
I know I can be wrong about my disbelief, I know I can be biased, but the reality is the following: the actions of those groups of people not only push people away, but keep them away. Those actions affect not only their reputation, but the reputation of other denominations.
Well said - and I find it hard to even be a hopeful agnostic.
You can go back to Jesus without going to back to "religion" if that works for you. Jesus invites us to a personal relationship with God. That doesn't necessarily require a mediator. Jesus is your mediator.
@@ZZSmithReal I don't believe in anything supernatural. The point of my comment and religion was that, if there is a perfect teacher, having so many flawed and hateful people that claim to follow that teacher is really bad PR. I didn't stop being a Christian because of any Christian behavior, it was for purely theological reasons. The Christian behavior exhibited by some just serves to reinforce (for me) the notion that no all powerful, all knowing, all good being was ever at the center of it all.
@@Fernando-ek8jp Regarding supernatural, I have been blown away reading scientific based material on near death experiences. After doing so I am more convinced than ever that there is much beyond we experience immediately and tangibly in this world through just our five senses. But we all live our own experiences I guess. All the best.
@@ZZSmithReal Given that we already have more than five physical senses, I agree
I have followed Trump, with grave concern, from 3 months into his presidency. Why did we have to wait so long for common-sense preachers like you to speak out? Thank you
And why... HOW did y'all not see the evil your own selves? You're looking to preachers to tell you? And all they were doing is spewing hatred & lies from the pulpit, turning churches into political pulpits, against the constitution. Every one of you who rely on others to tell you what to do like that should have your voting rights suspended until you are deemed recovered from the Trump cult.
EXACTLY
its funny you still think they have common sence, was it that easy for them to follow a person down that road makes me wonder who else they will follow down that path if you all would live with pure love for everyone not one race of people stop making choices for people make choices for your self no one but you will sit before your god for your sins, they went in for some nefarious reason not the right reason and they showed themselves to the world that theyre ungodly folks hiding behind the bible i do not beleive any of them know god
Because he lost the election.
Only when he was a loser did Evangelist care.
Because it was financially beneficial for these churches and for the orange a hole🙄 ... they were happy to be in bed with each other until he lost and now the pastors are worried they won't get as many dollars in their coffers if Trump runs and fails again.
AMEN .... you have spoken the TRUTH !!!!!
How do I do that?
RARELY have I agreed with someone more. As a "born again" Christain from the Jesus People Movement Era Evangelical and raised Quaker before then, I thank you. You so eloquently put into words what I have been thinking and feeling for years now. When you said that the church has been looking for political power since the 70s, I, (outloud, and I'm alone) said "Yes, there it is." Another cost is the Christian leaders who point thier flock toward following someone/something besides Christ is going to be held accountable for everyone of them going astray. Pretty tough consequences 😔 Nice to see a leader that still listens to Jesus first. Thank you ❤️
I have longed for years to hear someone in authority within the faith speak specifically about the grievous damage evangelicals have done to the Christian faith these last 6 or 7 years. Thank you, sincerely and deeply, for speaking this truth and doing it so clearly and eloquently. It very much needed to be said. (I won't even get started on the "he used us" nonsense. Their choice was purposeful and their eyes were fully open.)
Perhaps
But as adherents to all communions is falling at the same rate it is unlikely that Evangelical identification with GoP politics is a factor.
Me too. The longing I have felt, the anguish I have felt has been daily for 6 years also.
The problem is there's no way to tell if the evangelicals were in fact carrying out the will of god or not.
So by holding them up as a negative force within christianity may in fact be in opposition to the will of god.
God never does tie breakers.
They used him as well. Hate loves hate.
To hear you talk sensibly is uplifting.
Profoundly true! This movement is also turning millions of people against Christ
Thank you for commenting on this. I couldn't go back to church for years because of their view and how hypocritical it became. Recently, I started going back and found a wonderful Episcopal church that is truly open to all. It is refreshing and gives me hope.
@Kate - "I found a wonderful ... church..."
That's excellent news! Celebrating with you 😊
I’m so happy for you!!! I’ve never found a physical church I’ve felt comfortable with. This is my church now, all inclusive, none judgmental, Christians, non-Christians, atheists, agnostics, pagans, witches, people from all walks of life, all free to speak their thoughts out loud. I believe we’re all just walking each other home, regardless. ✨🌹✨❤️🔥✨🌹✨
great for you I am hoping I can find a home too
Episcopal is Anglican in the US. It’s the same church without the English monarch at the top.
I left my church too when they tried to convince me to vote for Donald. I was sickened.
This is like the political equivalent of being upset over realizing that the romantic partner you have been with for a while is a toxic horrible person , and that everyone around you who warned you was right along
Ok.
You're kind.
They knew with whom they were dealing from the very beginning.
The Evangelicals wanted their acquisition of the Supreme Court and their religious agenda to be the power. With that, they also wanted the money and white supremacy to remain in place and, if possible, expand because you know, the Great Replacement Theory.
If the Republicans had their red wave in the midterms, these "used" people would be willing to be "used." Remember, this has been a 50+-year project. It's not new.
There's nothing mistaken about their actions. They weren't being used. This was a highly calculated, well-planned and executed effort to make the country a theocracy.
Now they're having a moment of crisis? Yeah, ok.
Cry me a river.
It’s like someone who married an obviously obnoxious person for money and now all the money is gone they suddenly realise that the person they married is awful and want a divorce. He hasn’t changed, he has just lost his power and is no more use to them.
No, because this analogy is INCORRECT. You would also need to be toxic in order for the analogy to be correct. Frump is, FACTUALLY a liar, scammer, hypocrite, misogynist, rapist, pedophile, anti-Democratic, illiterate, uneducated, anachronistic, immoral, transactional, and potentially guilty of playing his part in FRATRICIDE (Mary Trump’s father\Frump’s brother), an opportunist, and disloyal (ask any lawyer about him-he’s been famous for being a pathological liar for about 30 YEARS).
Evangelicals are exactly THE SAME. like for like. NOW - the analogy is correct. They signed up for the perfect representative for themselves. Some of them even made a “golden Trump idol” and stuck it in a bldg somewhere for them to worship. SERIOUSLY.
there is hope when one partner recognizes its fault, it's the beginning
@@milenamilena4495 No, there is NOT hope. People still don’t get it.
When you are dealing with PSYCHOPATHS, it doesn’t matter. THEY DON’T CARE. They don’t care if anything is their fault - they just don’t care!
Thank you for your video and speaking the truth. You especially caught my attention when you discussed the baggage of the church. My wife and I, both of whom have attended church for most of our lives, have stopped going. My wife is a public school teacher *GASP. She has come under a LOT of criticism from people in the church over her 20+ years of teaching. She has been told that "God isn't in schools," as if God leaves her heart every time she walks into the school building. She was told that she is going to hell for teaching in a public school rather than a private, "Christian" school. She was recently personally attacked because she has her PhD - mostly white "Christian" men who are uncomfortable with a woman being more educated and smarter than them. Despite the criticisms, she continues to do what God has called her to do - teach. She has many, many stories of how God has used her to minister to kids and their families. Will be interesting how God sorts this out when we all go to Heaven.
I also worked in public education for nearly 30 years. I taught at two Christian schools prior to that, and could not stand the political indoctrination posing as Christianity. There was a far Right wing agenda intertwined in all if the subject matter. I rebeled by throwing out the stupid workbooks, and taught my kids creative thinking, storytelling, science, geography, math, and encouraged asking questions. My students tested way past their grade level, and I was fired for my efforts to create thinking students. I was told I was "a negative influence on our school." This was during the Reagan years. I had many opportunities to minister the love and compassion of Christ to hundreds of public school kids in the years following.
@@hapennysparrow Thank you for all of your years teaching! Sorry about your experience of being fired for helping kids become independent thinkers, but sounded like you recovered very well in the public school system!
Teaching was a joy to me. I worked with kids struggling with learning disabilities, and these remarkable kids taught me much. (14 years in Middle School, and 14 in High School.): I am retired now, but can look back and know I made a difference in many of their lives. Every once in a while, when I am out and about, a former student will come up and say how much I helped them achieve success, and once in a while, one of their Mom's will approach me to simply say,"Thank you." How very gratifying.
@@hapennysparrow When they put you out of that school, they opened the door for the devil.
Shake the dust from your feet , God always leads
Right on, Reverend Trevors. I have been devastated by what's been going on, and questioning the Christian faith. Your message resonates with what I alwa6ys thought Christianity was really about.
I've finally found a reverend that I can respect as much as I'm supposed to. Thank you, pouring over these videos lately, it's almost like I'm going to church again... but without the fear and judgment.
One of your best sermons, Rev. As an atheist, I love listening to you. You give me hope.
Atheist here too. Glad to find this space.
Me too!
I have learned that mankind is not to be trusted. I trust only in God.
Final judgement for the churches is 10/12/26 -- Daniel 7: 9-14. The Republican CHURCH became the synagogue of Satan, when FAKE EWES proclaimed Trump, chosen by God, to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem. The Catholic Church is the same Whore of Babylon Luther declared in 1517. Epochal Eclipse April 8th 2024 -- awakening on the 9th. Don't stare at the sun.
Matthew 16: 4 Jonah 3: 4-5, 8 Jonah 4: 11
Me too.
I love Rev Ed even though I don't believe in his god.
Stopped going to church decade’s ago but if there are more leaders like you in this twenty first century, then there may yet be hope for, not just me, but all of us
Finally, I’m hearing wisdom. Thank you and bless you.
This is so spot on!!!!! FINALLY someone speaks out about what was going on!!!!
In recent years, when I encounter someone who insists on letting me know they are a "Christian", it scares me. But you remind me of religious leaders I used to look up to when I was young. I hope you are not alone.
Oh yes, the I'm a good Christian people, I've taught my kids that that's a huge red flag! Run!
It’s a bit like walking up to someone in an oppressed group and saying you’re an “ally” - major red flag.
Better to be known for what’s done, not what’s claimed.
I lived in the Deep South, NC, GA, FL, know that firsthand! Being asked if I was "churched", I found shocking & no one else's business. Disgusting to wear your religion on your sleeve. But such hypocrites that way animals are exploited & discarded like trash. Certainly not Jesus like!
Your blessings even though they are on tape so enlighten me Rev Ed... Gratitude ✨🙏🇺🇸💙
Amen for this powerful revelation - when you seek earthly power you cahoot with the devil.
The first word that comes to mind is "WOW". What a powerful message. I have been so heartbroken over the evangelical church's embrace of Donald Trump as well as the blatant power grab by too many evangelical preachers. I no longer call myself by the designation "Christian". The closest I will come is to say I'm a Christ follower because I don't want my audience to assume I'm a Trump follower. The calling of Christ's church is to live like Jesus and love like Jesus no matter what is happening in the human empire. Thank you.
You keep giving them Jesus and they will call you a true Christain. Let's not let the church, the world or our family & friends make us hide whose we are. Just another brother in Christ ❣️
As a recovering catholic, you are one of the only ones that is not silent on this issues, and for that I am grateful.
Silence to me is equal as being complicit in the crimes against humanity that is being aided and abetted by all those so called " churches ".
Im a recoving Catholic too!
He’s Anglican. It’s like Catholic without all the guilt.
By Catholic Church Rev. Ed Trevors is referring to the universal, all-encompassing church in the context of this video.
I agree, they just want their political power! They are no better than trump! I've seen some disgusting pastors spouting off lots of garbage, so no, he didn't use them, they were willing participants!
But he is still pushing the lies in the bible! So, how is he any better than the other liars and con artists out there?
Simply awesome! Rev Ed, you are saying what I have been saying over the last two years concerning the Church and politics. Thank you sir.
This video is so deep -- its length is completely appropriate.
However, given the proclivity of the right for projecting their own flaws onto others...
I would say that THEY tried to use Trump - and they fell for it.
Everything else is absolutely SPOT ON the target, absolutely mesmerizing, THANK YOU ED!
Agreed. Evangelical America will hitch itself to any wagon that will enable them to grasp the reigns of power....the power that will allow them to rebuild an image of what the pilgrims fled from in Europe.
Oh please. These people wanted to be used. They don't have any regrets, they are now just postering. These people are not as stupid as it appears.
Great to hear a Pastor who “gets it”. I’ve been saying this for decades and have been met with silence by my Christian friends. Why they thought that getting in league with the devil would further the cause of Christ is clearly insane. Great damage has been done to the gospel over the past 50 years because of this stance.
SAME
He is great, but he is in Canada!
I just found this channel. Thank you for all the work you put into this. It was wonderful! So thoughtful. It is nice to see a priest speak so wisely about this issue. It’s a huge problem that we have on own hands. I thank you!
Make it make sense. Thank you standing up, speaking the truth. Lefty God loving me. I couldn't bring myself to see how any sort of Christianity would support the likes of that traitor. Amen!!!
I was once a republican too. I well remember that point when I figured out... I was being lied to! It hurts, I know, when you realize you've been played for a fool by someone who is only looking for power and money. Once they get your vote, theyre done with you and cast you aside. Beware the sin of pride. You have been tricked. You have chosen wrong. God is LOVE, not hate. Feed the hungry, clothe the naked, welcome the immigrant, care for others. The democrats, despite their many faults, walk a lot closer to Jesus than any republican who makes so much noise about religion! Just because you have been fooled doesn't mean you can't do an about-face and support the other guys.
I pray for our country. I stood back in astonishment as I watched evangelicals back him in 2016. I watched as they continually endorsed him, even though his ( Trump's) actions resembled satan's rather than those of Jesus. I watched as he justified his actions, and evangelicals made excuses for his behavior and continued to endorse him. I watched as young people came to correlate Trump's actions with that of Christian believers. He turned many people off from religion based on his actions and words, alone
Exactly!
Trump's actions are like satan's? I'm curious as to what you think of biden.
I'm curious as to why peace deals in the Middle East, no new wars, and the end of Roe v Wade is satanic to you.
I still support the guy. I don't think he is Christian at all, just a good president.
And that's why people have been fleeing the church for decades. Trump was just the symptom of a deeper issue
And there zealous support of him no matter what
Absolutely! I now cringe when I hear someone say , I’m a Christian. I have never felt this in my life , but my eyes have been opened, and I see religion is a cult.
From the U.S. here and just came across your message. Thanks for your succinct and resounding, truly Christian message. A saying I came across recently by JM Smith, “If you dance with the devil, then you haven’t got a clue, you think you’ll change the devil but the devil changes you.” I know many of my fellow Catholics who voted for their “orange Jesus” and after all the hatred and violence that’s been unleashed, would vote for him again and others in their chosen party. I find it sad and disheartening they aren’t looking at the person. Just the political party and what they stand to gain from it. Your words will be shared with them. It’s how I’ve felt but couldn’t quite express as eloquently and succinctly as you. Many, many thanks. God bless you.
Evangelicals are not victims. They gave him their full throated support with glee. They cheered the cruelty, pettiness, and racism while dismissing the lawless criminality. He is them and they are him.
I am NOT a religious person, but if I were to explore a church it would be yours. Thanks for being rational and compassionate.
As a lifelong atheist I normally discount the words of priests but you are extremely intelligent and really nailed this topic perfectly. Lots more Americans need to hear this. Thank you.
Coming from a life long Atheist.. they know better and God Knows their heart.
I agree completely
America is grounded in God's spirit of love and acceptance of all, Evangelicals have abandoned true faith and have thus damaged the structure of America, may God forgive them, they didn't know what they are doing, evangelical lack of true belief in God is blindness
I love these sermons. Thank you.
I feel as though I'm watching a sermon :-) Thank you Rev.
Thank you for your message. I’m a Christian who is embarrassed by hoe the so-called evangelicals co-opted that term. I’m almost embarrassed to wear my cross necklace because I don’t want to be associated with the current evangelical movement. It is so sad it has come to this! Thank you for all of your videos. They are a light in the darkness!
Yes about wearing a cross. These so called christians and tRUMP has also caused me to wonder, is it a trumpist or someone who really loves our country flying our flag?
@@deborahalexzander2512 , I agree. Then I feel bad for letting the so-called evangelicals win. 🤷🏻♀️
Exactly. All of this. I’m so sickened by what people have done using my faith.
Right, when I see the cross on someone I just know they are the racist nazis that follow Trump.....eyeroll.
@@signingcharity They impose THEIR beliefs on everyone else. We left England to be free of this crap and now here comes the Evangelical nutcases and the Republican Taliban Party.
You are the only evangelical preacher that I’ve listened to on CZcams that sounds genuine, intelligent and sane. The others are shockingly off their rockers!
He’s not evangelical
Thank you thank you thank you 🙏🏼 always put Christ before politics 🙏🏼 Amen 🙏🏼
Thank you for your clear evaluation of the Trump Evangelical power struggle.
John the Baptist was the "voice in the wilderness" calling for repentance and turning back to God and away from the religious structures of Jesus' time. You are serving such a role in our times. Thank you, and keep it up. We need to hear that message.
Ron...did you forget what happened to John? Please don't wish that upon the good reverend.
@@hopefulskeptic42 I don’t think we are expecting to have him murdered and his head on a platter (look it up)…. However, pointing out that ALL peoples need to be cognizant that focusing energies on worldly problems, rather than focusing on the one thing needful, takes them away from Jesus, is really important! As Rev. just reminded us, no one can serve two masters.
@@hopefulskeptic42 Is that all you see in John's life?
I was very religious until my late teens and I started to discover that the religious leaders around me did not really understand what was in the Bible and could not teach me and at that point I realized that most religious leaders around me were just using religion to get what they wanted. They were not teaching the morals of Jesus. It was then that I turn my back on religion forever and as this has progressed with evangelicals embracing whatever they can to gain power which they can wield over me so they can tell me what to do and what not to do the further they push me from religion and the more they drive me to pull other people out of religion. Some years back I had a very devout religious friend ask for support so she could spread the word of God and I told her she needed to clean up her own house before trying to convert people. She had no idea what I was talking about. This is what I was talking about. Until the vast majority of Christians in the US clean up their own house they are going to continue to see dwindling congregations and maybe even the death of their own religion.
Well said! Did not know about your video - until I saw this video. I have now subscribed and shall begin to follow. We need more people in Church to speak up. Well done xx
Oh my goodness, you have taught the pure instructions of the great commission. GOD bless you. 🔊
You have nailed it on the head. I have said from the beginning that the damage done to Christianity and our witness is deeply diminished. Thank you for this message. While many churches have not preached this hatred from the pulpit they have also not spoke against it either.
Ran into some that were eager to engage just from the point that it got people to show up at church and, more specifically, at religious events for the talking heads of the evangelical movement.
First Baptist Dallas is a sad example where Trump rallies basically became religious services.
Churches outnumber schools in America. THAT is the real problem. Also, parents indoctrinating their children.
Yes yes yes!!
If He “Jesus” be lifted up he’ll draw all men to me, but They lifted Trump
Indeed
Thank you, Rev. Ed. This is so on point. My siblings are all Trump supporters and we are a family divided. Your message is very helpful to me to remind me where to keep my focus. M.
I have waited so long for real Christians to address this issue. Thank you.
AMEN AMEN AMEN!!! You nailed the hammer on the head. I share the same sentiments. What went on January 6th, with the insurrection, people carrying "Jesus Saves" signs, the blasphemous prayer in the Senate Chambers, is a terrible witness of the body of Christ. May God continue to humbly use you and to bless your ministry.
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Amen indeed, every word of the Truth is joy to the heart, Amen
Thanks for saying the tough things! Not many are willing.
Wow that’s amazing, I am not a Christian, but I am impressed
What a beautiful, timely, and necessary message. How anyone who considers himself/herself a Christian could have supported that misogynistic, hate-spewing bully is beyond me. And each time I see pictures from a MAGA rally, I can't help but think of the Nuremburg rallies in Germany of the 1930's ... our priest gave a marvelous definition of "evangelism" a few weeks ago - he said evangelism is not making someone ELSE believe in God, but living in such a way that other can see that YOU believe in God and put your faith and trust in Him. Trump and his so-called evangelistic followers most certainly do not do that. Thank you, Father Trevors - please keep speaking the truth. God bless you and Merry Christmas!
I just Love you Pastor Ed! You are so right about Trump! I have always believed that Trump does not even seem to possess Christian values or traits…
Lie with dogs, get up with fleas. Pastor you're so right. There are pastors I don't watch anymore because of the twisted message they now preach. A crying shame.
Very nicely said Has a Christian I had a real struggle going to church, knowing all the Trump support that takes place inside of the sanctuary. May God Bless You for your words of Truth.
Well said. My children, raised in an Evangelical church will have nothing to do with evangelicals. They love Jesus but what ever spiritual teaching or guidance they get, will never come from the evangelical church.