Adventist History: Protestantism & Abolitionism
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Jeff Holland - Salem, OR Paster Myers, as a 62-year-old white member of our Church, I loved the conversation and I really needed to hear it! I then watched your subsequent sermon the following week, the one you had been working on in the kitchen, and you were right on target. I was led to watch both of these on CZcams after praying about this very issue. Bible study is so important, but so is a knowledge of history in general, but in this case, specifically our own Church history. Black people have been oppressed in America, and our Church needs to take up the cause to end it, especially if we find it in our church. God is opposed to the Satanic oppression of mankind... everywhere.
Kas TEAD MARI Holland inAmeerikas...Sugulased...❤❤❤
Jeffrey Zink..!????
“God doesn’t call pastors to be entertainers.” AMEN!! 🙌🏼🙌🏽🙌🏿
Truth!!!!
I have asked God so many times, "Why haven't You come yet and taken us home"? After watching this, I now know the answer. We Are Broken and thinking we can fix it ourselves without His help.
Thank you so much for this. Thank you to everyone who participated.! I pray EVERY Adventist takes the time to watch this.
This is good news of historical Adventists and Seventh Day Adventist history.
I thank God for this season. We may have not learned or be open to this message had we not been going through this right now. 2020 has opened eyes, minds and hearts around the world. Praise God!
Every black history month, this needs to be played repeatedly at homes and churches.
God be praised for a timely message.This needs to be brought to the forefront for every SDA to know.
Thank you for this incredible presentation I WANT MORE MORE MORE. This should be a series and yes we are ready for the podcast !!! God bless the four of you and using your platforms to teach and enlighten us all.
Hello Pastor Ivor. This is valuable information that I believe the Adventist Latino community NEEDS to know this TRUTH about SDA history. Please translate this video into Spanish. I know my parents would love and be surprised about everything talked about here! Thank you!!
Why has this information been kept under wraps? Truthfully, not reflexive statements?
@@keepfocus1214 The Abolitionist pioneer history of Seventh-day Adventists is fascinating.
The first President, Elder Byington was an Engineer on the Black Under-
ground Railroad. But, the material is at your fingertip and all over the
Internet
Thank you Kevin for not being afraid of criticism. The truth needs to be heard, and Adventists, individually, and collectively really need to decide which side they are on. There are only 2 sides, Jesus or Satan. There is no sitting on the fence, being afraid to speak out and protest social and political injustices in the name of peace. Jesus said "Do not assume thatI have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword." Matthew 10:34
There needs to be a part 2 to this discussion, please. So much golden information. I'm blown away.
Pastor Ivor and Atonte, thank you so much for this service. I was raised in the catholic church, and never heard the term "social justice" used in church.I don't have a problem with this term at all. I'm retired now, but worked as an Advocate for the disabled for many years. God Bless you and your ministry. Hopefully, we can meet someday soon.I would love to visit your church. I live in mountain view. In my prayers. Happy Sabbath!
Adventist?
Rome talks social doctrine...
so·cial jus·tice
noun
justice in terms of the distribution of wealth, opportunities, and privileges within a society.
"individuality gives way to the struggle for social justice"
So being this is the variation of Rome's social doctrine and the bold move towards the common good philosophy with the 17 Sustainable development goals and the 2030... I have need therefore means by honest or force to take from the haves is justified by any foul play or crook justifies the end. This is not a Biblical princal. I admonish people to study this for themselves... The millerite movement has differences on key points and SDAs kept points but two entities... There are major red flags here. Be like the bareiuns and study to see if these things are true!!!
The bottom line issue is a lack of conversion.
🤯🤯🤯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 this message is fire. It’s depressing but the truth needs to come out.
It's liberating as the TRUTH is setting folks FREE!!!
What is truth?
@@stylez767 God is truth
@@a.r.8987 God indeed is truth, however we must know the truth that leads us to God. That truth is found in His word jesus christ. He is the way the truth and the life. Truth Sanctifies us and it is the word that is truth. John 17:17
@@stylez767 Amen
Maranatha Rev 1:03
Mind blowing! Will watch this a few times to digest.
This information is enough to make Revolution among SDA - it has certainly changed my way of thinking, attitudes and perceptions - Don´t be silent about these things
so·cial jus·tice
noun
justice in terms of the distribution of wealth, opportunities, and privileges within a society.
"individuality gives way to the struggle for social justice"
A lot of the views of Rome in these philosophies of words, like comon home, social doctrine... Bereans study to see if these things were true. In God's eyes we all are equal. We have council about politics and the Christians... We are to share the gospel of the 3 angels message....dig and research and verify for yourselves...
You say that the truth was changed (47'50") because of the federal government didn't want the prophetic interpretation of SDA. How about the changes in the fundamental principles of the seventh day adventist printed in 1905, 1907, 1908, 1909, 1910, 1911, 1912, 1913, 1914. EGW passed away in 1915. And suddenly, in 1931, there is the new printing of fundamental beliefs of seven days adventists with the trinity on it.
Thank You Pastor and Mrs. Myers for caring enough to teach the truth May The Most High continue to bless your ministry and keep his hedge around you and your family. Please don't let this be the last of these teachings. As a new member to the faith I have had several questions concerning the Church and social justice, this has given me hope for our denomination and what God has called us to do in response to these turbulent times we are have now entered.
This video is literally officially can be called a war room. Please give unfold more on Beast with two horn like lamb but speak as a dragon. Not only listen on history but many classified files been opened. The truth is revealed. Matter of fact that we are in war situation; we are in the great controversy. Folks,Do not chase the american's dream but chase the Heavenly dream.
I am very interested in the 2 horn thing as well. I have listened to Pastor Myers since I first discovered his teachings about 6 months ago. He is a true warrior for God and I have been encouraged to study more and study differently. Being an immigrant myself, I have chased the American dream - never found it but I did give my life over to Jesus about 5 years ago and, in that way, I am very grateful to America. America may be many things people do not like but the order hithertofore manifested in this nation, the optimistic spirit and the generosity of her people have made me so grateful and appreciative. I love being in a country where the mail actually makes it to its destination without being stolen, hardly anyone urinates in the streets (except for demonic Seattle and San Francisco), there are street cleaners and trash is removed. American stores are clean, trains, planes and roads are on schedule. It always blows my mind that people complain about their surroundings and still throw trash in the streets, baby diapers etc. I long to be a grain of salt for God in this world while time shall be.
What really is the American dream? Generally, we seem to have placed God on the back burner and presently chasing our earthly dreams that will amount to eternal damnation. As a whole, we do not seem to be preparing to live with Jesus.
Let us all re-examine ourselves using Jesus as the measuring stick.
Blessings
@@andrewthompson357 one has to be asleep to "dream".
Hey Pastor Myers I was shown this video by a friend and I have to say I deeply respect what you’re doing and this message was eye opening and remarkable. As a young black man to see how this fair that I believe played such a vital role in the past for trying to get reform was amazing and seeing how adventism even had its down moments as well was very much appreciated. Thank you for this and keep up the good work no matter what others may say
As we get closer to the end it seems even more crucial to stay on point with our original message. I can see all these things happening again in this day and age. My patriotism is with the new Jerusalem. The road is narrow indeed!
That is the most thorough discussion on SDA and racism that I have ever heard! Learned so much!
God bless you Pastor Myers and Platform.
I have a legit question. I completely understand about the confederate flag. But if is not appropriate for Adventist to be affiliated with that. How it is good to be affiliated to a political party who promote abortion and liberalism? Thanks
Racism is indeed a spiritual issue.
Bwoiii
ALWAYS has been....its a demonic principle warned of in Ephesians 6:12.
If we read the Bible every day and walk with Christ, we should know how to treat people. The Holy Spirit teaches us. Our last day work as SDA's is to share present truth message.
We can do both. As a Christian, we're suppose to stand up when we see injustice and black people have been treated in an egregious manner throughout the history of this country. You can, and should as a Christian, speak out against the evil of racisim.
Can't present the 3AM/Present Truth without denouncing racism to its core.
@@speaktruth8322 We denounce racism by the way we live and treat people. Jesus didn't hold signs up or protest or get politically involved because He knew the way to change people was from the inside out.
@@tobe2714 You speak out in your daily life, how you act, how you treat others. Don't be distracted by social justice causes. The true healing only comes from Jesus.
@@GoodWillPrevail Social justice causes are not distractions from our preparation for receiving the seal of God. Rather, social justice causes are supplementary. Isaiah 58 purports that the true fast is centered around administering justice and righteousness to not just our own selves, but others. Yes, we never see Jesus literally holding a sign of protest, but that doesn't mean He didn't protest injustice. The Great Controversy is political to the core. Satan had an issue with the politics of God's kingdom. He believed he could redefine good and evil outside of God. The sanctuary message? Politics in the spiritual realm. "Without the shedding of blood, there can be no remission of sin." Politics! Now in the physical realm: the forming and supporting of vegetarian societies and temperance societies throughout the world. Voting for laws that would further the cause of temperance. What would you call that?
Now, what is a distraction? A distraction is something that obstructs the development of restoration of the image of God in our character. Advocating for righteousness and justice towards those who experience things that you've never experienced? That's a development of Christlike empathy. Example; the Samaritan experience is somewhat akin to the racial/theological micro-aggressions we experience in our churches today. And what does Jesus do and command his disciples to do? Go out of their way to restore such a one by every means possible. "...Hide not thyself from thine own flesh." Isaiah 58:8. "Thine own flesh" means yourself, as the Holy Spirit is doing the work of self-revelation as we are afflicting our souls, but "thine own flesh" also dually means your fellow man.
Don't misunderstand me. We must be careful to examine and test the spirits of the social justice bandwagons that exist today. Oh, we must be very careful. We must ALSO be equally careful and fearful of social/spiritual idleness, for Satan will use this to condition you into being apathetic. POLITICS IS NOT EVIL. Godless politics are evil. Godly politics are what we are called to advocate, as we are even now being trained to judge angels! Hide not thyself from thine own flesh.
I just found this today, June 27. I don't know whether anyone will read it now. But I just have to say there is so much ignorance among our people. Recently while I was teaching the SS lesson, the matriarch of our church commented, "I don't know what their problem is, they have everything!" I was totally shocked and almost speechless. I questioned her somewhat but didn't make a big commotion. Since then I have had opportunity to share some reality with her about discrimination in our time. She has admitted she really didn't know about these things. There are very few blacks in this area. And one of the charter families in our church was a wonderful black family. They have since moved on or passed away. But they left a sense that we are all a happy family. This program was a big help. We need education coming from the church. People don't know what to believe coming from the media. And our experience in rural america is different from big city America. (I did live in NYC for several years.)
I read it. Thank you for your comment
Bro Baker was trying to remember “Self - denial Boxes.” I’ve read about this idea in EG White writings!
Fascinating presentation! I grew up in the Pacific Northwest and basically experienced no racism, until in my late 20s when I was shocked to experience it in the Lafayette, LA SDA Church.
Interesting info about the BI surveillance and intimidation of the SDA Church leadership in 1916.
Need more of this for all of us. This helps all of us be free. Thank God for the truth. This frees us all.Loretta
Thank you for this information. Great job!!!!
This is excellent information, God's blessings on your Ministry Pastor Myers, Brothers Benjamin and Kevin Thank You
This is powerful. Many thanks for sharing. I love true history. I'm with you. Don't stop. A blessed Sabbath to you all.
Hopefully you don’t get censured or let go by central California conference
I know, right.😏. These wypipo on the top are trying to hide something very important and significant.
@@audreylove7783 they might not be highlighting it but it's in SOP and some stuff about the abolitionism amongst protestants. People can chose to read... study to show yourselves approved. You can't wait for oppressors to tell you your history. Have we not learned? Marcus Garvey said it. Racism is and will continue as EGWhite says and the bible tells us... until Jesus returns.
Study to show yourself approved in all spiritual things ( matters) of which this is one
@@nicolagrant5450amen @ "you can not wait for oppressors to tell you your history". Especially when they're profiting from it.
Why would he get censored? This fits right in with what they are doing.
@@freeinhabitant2422 which is? Out of interest in your view
What a treasure of information! I was told by someone at my church that I shouldn't bring up "political" issues in the church. I told them that racism was beyond politics. I said that when someone says that black lives matter, someone responds with saying that all lives matter. I said "and that is true, but black lives have NOT mattered, and that's why we need this movement. I love this video! So glad you let it run longer.
All of the churches need to hear this- all faiths! Loretta
This is lowkey the most powerful video I've watched the whole year!
A great book to read if you can get your hands on is We Have Tomorrow: The History of American Seventh-Day Adventists With An African Heritage by Louis B. Reynolds. Reading it made me so proud to be an Adventist
“When the Holy Spirit is poured out, there will be a triumph of humanity over prejudice in seeking the salvation of the souls of human beings. God will control minds. Human hearts will love as Christ loved. And the color line will be regarded by many very differently from the way in which it is now regarded. To love as Christ loves, lifts the mind into a pure, heavenly, unselfish atmosphere”.-Testimonies for the Church 9:209.
Everyone needs to be teaching this history AND keep her recommendation to educate and give the gospel.
Thank you, thank you , thank you!
I got so much answers to my questions from this presentation thanks to you all may God continue to bless this ministry
Thank God for your courage to speak truth. Lord break our hearts for what breaks yours. Silence makes us complicit to racism and the oppression of human beings. Preach in season, on the hilltop, preach in the streets, preach like our lives depend on it. Just preach!
So folks have tried to water down our message ? This is what you get when you start compromising. Death before dishonor should be our motto. May God help us all and keep the faith y’all!
Wow. So much to absorb. I will continue to share this with friends and family.
Wooow this was packed, I sure need to download it..... and I was humbled to see ps Myers ahmnd his wife being students and actually learning woooow you guys are doing a great job
Thank you so much for this! I have been wanting to learn more about Adventist movement history and how it can and should inform our lives today. This is powerful.
Bless you all! You have opened my eyes to the Truth that will set us free. I had a Josiah experience when they found the books of the Law in the temple. This is the real call for a reformation in our church. May the Lord bless all who hear and gain understanding.
Amen!
I have to give a sermon on Sabbath and I was prompted to do a study on the History of Adventism and this adds a plethora of content to my studies. I am so excited.
May God use you mightily in speaking truth to your listeners that hearts will be converted and stand with God at all cost.
Self sacrificing
What references can you share?
Pastor Myers brings the fire......thank you!
This is crazy. Why haven't I heard this before! May God bless, guide and protect all the people involved in giving us this light.
So informative! Thank you, Jesus! 🙌🏾
38:11 It should be clarified that the funds collected were not for direct distribution to the freedmen. Rather, they were to support the educational work done through the Southern Missionary Society run by Edson White and his affiliates. As Brother Benjamin has said, the Adventist efforts in the South were to teach the freedmen how to better support themselves by self-improvement through education and by learning better means of agriculture, which was the major means of support of ALL people--black and white--at this time. The "misappropriation" was not that it simply went into someone's pockets; it was that the funds were sent to those working in other ministries in the South (particularly in Tennessee).
Thank you so much for this! I am even more sure about being a member of the SDA movement!
The librarian fellow is saying something very interesting about the changing of the message.
Right!
This is so timely! What don't we get about Jesus saying He was come to set the captive free. We are also preaching from other points in the Bible that have several levels, so why don't we have the ability to to see levels in Adventism that apply to eliminating racism in Adventism. I am almost 83, my mother became a Seventh-Day-Adventist in the 1940's. Never, did I learn racism of any kind at her knee. For her it was what one's heart and resultant actions revealed that caused her to reject or accept someone as an example to us. So, at almost 83, and not educated in Adventist schools, I read some writers on my own, saw what happened in the 1960's and am so glad to get this more detailed information. Please educate us more, mind and heart. I have read some of the comments. We should not get sidetracked by terms like "social justice" and truly listen to all the information presented here. I would like to be able to read what these two young men have discovered. Wouldn't it be great to see both in print? Ivor, I appreciate both you and Tontae, forgive the misspelling. Keep on keepin' on. May Jesus continue to bless and keep you is my prayer.
Amen. If there is still racism -from any side - it MUST go.
Sad but our church is segregated, and racist.
@@suzetterobinson883 where?
@@keepfocus1214 Almost everywhere. I live in Atlanta. There is one particular church I used to go to that's very racist. I am speaking from experience.
"The Church is a hospital full of sinners that need healing from the Master Physician, not a rest home for saints." God is in the business of heart transplants... turning our hearts of stone to hearts of flesh. If He can transform a Christian persecuter Saul to Paul, a Christian who turned the world towards Christ, He can still work on those the world and other Christians have given up on.
This some good stuff. This information was all new to me but I can't say I'm surprised by the things that have taken place with our church and is still happening today. I'm from Jamaica and I've been a SDA from birth, I'm 24 now and civil rights has never been that much of a concern to me, not until the incident that we all know about. I have been deeply troubled from that moment until now. I have been praying about it constantly. Sometimes I'm in my bed and can't sleep because I'm thinking about it. I'm hungry and don't even want to eat because I'm thinking about it. All of what's going on has brought to my attention the need to really speak out against injustice and not just necessarily in the context of racism because there are so many other issues affecting people, but at this point in time racism is the big topic and it needs to be addressed in the church. It is indeed a spiritual issue and we just can't keep denying it.
There is a big cause for concern on my part about the BLM movement. I felt as though it would have been addressed on this program but it probably would have led to a whole new discussion but I'm hoping you guys will speak about it soon. My issue is that, as much as civil rights should be the prerogative of the church, I don't believe in attaching myself to the above stated movement. I believe everything that we are doing should be aimed at winning souls for God's kingdom (both the oppressed and the oppressor) just like the pioneers did. I don't see this movement as one that has this aim, correct me if I'm wrong. Why can't the church start an abolitionist movement and lead from the front instead of just attaching ourselves to one where we are just being drowned out by all the noise? I'm deeply troubled at the moment because the devil has the church in a tailspin. I pray that we get our act together soon.
Pastor Myers keep doing what you're doing. Continue to allow the Holy Spirit to guide you as you seek to address the many pressing issues that are affecting us today. I love the sermon that you did on the "Hidden Agenda Behind Racism." I believe it's a message that the church should be running with.
What a wealth of information! Very informative. We have a lot of work to do remnant church. 🙏🏾
Amazing! Thank you guys for this segment.
This is such an eye opener and fully explains the mentality/culture today. Wow! Thank you so much for educating me this way. As a church we have some serious work to do. I want Jesus to return, but until things like this are talked about and tackled head on we will be waiting for much longer. Blessings to you all in your ministry
ITS MID NIGHT AND LISTENING TO THIS, MY SPIRIT JUST MOVED TO THE HEAVENLY PLACE OF OUR HOLY GOD JEHOVAH, BECAUSE WHAT YOU HAVE DISCUSSED, I HAD VISIONS AND I SHARED THIS WITH MY MUM & MY WIFE. GOD IS ALIVE AND WELL. JESUS IS COMING SOONER THAN WE THOUGHT.
Justice for all people and unity in our God Jesus. Together 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏿🙌🏾🙌🏽🙌🏻
@PowerofTheLamb thank you for putting forth this Knowledge... I am Floored...Honestly, I can see how the prophetic will come to pass...Whoa!!!
...also, Benjamin Baker is a former student of mine... he has grown up to be even more Awesome...
God bless you and your wife and these two historians.
"My people perish for a lack of knowledge..."
Translation: My people will leave the body for a lack of knowledge...
Loved, loved, loved, loved this service!!!! Awesome Content!!!
Thank you so much Myers
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SLAVERY IS NO BUENO. BUT GOD IS BUENO 👌
Always....
@@a.r.8987 Yes yes
Such a timely and encouraging discussion.
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So fitting, long awaited, very much overdue.
Eye opener and very informative, thank you for the insight!
"Uplifting humanity is part of the gospel..."- that's powerful. A call to complete equality is the Midnight Cry message for our time. The present issues of Nationalism/racism, sexism(patriarchy, misogyny), and homophobia are what will break out into the final crisis or great tribulation at the end of the world- this will be the final test for all humanity. This is what God is revealing to His remnant church right now.
But many can't see that and go with the tide of secular society. Pray 🙏🏽
Mind blown… May the Lord Jesus give us grace and forgiveness to repent. To turn from our wicked ways. To repent and be transformed into the image of Christ. Rightly representing the truth. We pray for a revival in our church. A revival and a reformation. This message was powerful. Seeing our church through this lense now makes so much sense. Everything said articulates what the Lord is going to do, how He will revive and transform His church. I believe it is possible and we will see the change come to pass in our day.
This was amazing. I knew something me of the history but not this much. Thank you for allowing this time.
I find the analysis of this video completely wrong. Kevin said the FD Nichol was telling SDA members not to get involved in the civil rights movement because as a church we were against "uplifting a human race"? (this can't be from God) and Pastor Myer, you said you are a peacemaker but support these type of statements? And you also add add that this message is "more important" than the Three Angels Message? I hope you all three can put on clear lenses with which to look at the reality of the time we live in and not be carried away by every wind of fake doctrine.
Yes black lives matter, as a non-US white man I am disgusted with America's historical part in this regard and I the first person to support the need for justice, but the SDAC has also shown support against this injustice and ultimately, to say that this is concern is more important that the Three Angels Message is petty, stirring more trouble among an already troubled and divided church and just plain misguided.
Thank you Mr. Kevin!
We need more like you !
God bless you & May he bless you 7 fold 🙏🏽
Thank God. Everything help us to be free. I love the truth. God loves truth! Loretta
Thank You for this information. It’s incredible to learn these things. God bless you
This was an informative discussion and I'm so glad I spent the last 3 and a half hours of my day listening to this. I'm 25 years old this year and during my years of growing and being raised in this church, I haven't learned a lot of the stuff that was presented by Mr. Baker and Brother Kevin. I believe that as young people, we must be informed about the history of our church and everything that has transpired in our church. We have a work to do in preaching the gospel and ministering to those who are oppressed in the slavery of racism.
Fantastic presentation. Powerful message. Profound insights. Keep sharing this information!
Wow! This was a wealth of information. Thank You God bless you 🙏🏾
Amen. We are so used to being entertained. A lot of folks are really Sabbath keepers only on Saturdays. We forget what we are called to do. We are caught up with making a living, socializing and whatsoever else we find ourselves doing that we lose sight of what matters.
Thank you Jesus for this video and his hand in history.
I see so clearly now. Im only 50 minutes into the video and I can't wait to how adventism is leading in response to today's current civil rights issue.
Thank you. Thank you. I think this needs to be shared and shared and shared......
Awesome. This presentation answered many of my questions. Well done.
When you side with Christ, expect opposition. Be of Christ anyhow. However painful it offends your Brother, may it win them or reveal whom they Truly serve.
I've been an Adventist all my life and never knew the history the way it is told here. This is mind-blowing; Wow! we see how the devil divided us in more ways then one. Lord for forgive our church and give us strength to move forward in Jesus name.
Timely!!!
Thank you Atante," Please go into much details, please do"
PRAISES!!! Very timely and Much needed information/message!!! WOW!!! ... Being about God's business!!! We definitely have a work to do...
Amazinggg history🤯🙌🏼🙏🏽
God Bless Ps Myers & Team , Benjamin , Kevin , this is awesome informative n interesting, Sheldon n Cecilia Carolus Haddon Johannesburg South Africa
Thanks for sharing, I am sharing this. So important for this time.
I remember always asking myself when I was younger, why are all seventh day adventist black? I later realized that white Adventist existed. It was just that they were separate from us. It's time to intergrate !
What have integration done for the black community base on our history on the white race?? Black wall street located in Tulsa, Oklahoma was segregated and was therefore the wealthiest town in American history for long time before wypipo burnt it to the ground.
Oh boy. That's a hard one. The ideal absolutely is to integrate. I belong to a very mixed race/coloured congregation in Australia and it's a huge blessing and such a testimony to God's power and love. But to integrate in America... After all the history... And despite the current strength of black adventism...I can see if such takes place, there would need to be a mighty miracle to retain any sort of unity. Many will leave... But would they be a loss?
On what basis would we be integrating? This will not happen based on human efforts. True conversion of the heart towards Jesus Christ must take place for unity in the church to take place. And as there will be a great sifting as EGWhite talks about, I fear that there won’t be any integration until after such time.
Totally agree! I've heard part of the problem is that the "black" conferences do not always want to integrate. Some leaders in those conferences like having their own conferences. But everyone I know personally is totally in favor of integrating conferences by region. It's a stain on our history to have conferences based on race.
Robert LaCelle III I don’t that it’s a “ black “ issue when it comes to integration, our issues, rights, concerns have never really been fully actualized in an integrated state. People of all shades would feel comfortable going to church together if Christ was still the head of the church and that people were truly converted. As recently as Feb.2020, my family and I went to church in San Diego while on vacation, and a little “white” girl ran away from us towards her father shouting “ Daddy Black people , Black people”. Her father never turned around, never said anything. Even on the same campus of Andrews University you have one church where majority black students worship and another where mostly Whites worship, at least the last time I was there. If we were truly converted and lead by the Holy Spirit this wouldn’t even be a discussion topic.
I have always believed that America has always been a beast. She began as A wolf in sheep's clothing. The atrocities committed by the founders, even before slavery , with the native Americans point to that fact.
Dig deeper in history! The Indians did as well... Read in the Bible how America fits in prophecy. God's true people got along with them fine. Look at Roger Williams and the pilgrims. It was the countries, politicians and Jesuits and crown empires for greed, the barons...
America was a lamb according to the Bible. There earth swallowed up the woman to keep her from the beast. She later became a beast when she lost her Protestant character... Which is were we are now, an apostate Jesuit nation loosing our wall of separation of church and state and working on prophecy to repudiate our constitution!
America's history reveals that from her conception she's always practiced wickedness in the name of Christ. The Bible is clear as well as it NEVER describes America as a "lamb" but as a beast that has "lamblike horns" and speaks as a dragon. -Revelation 13:11 The nation is describe as hypocritical, phony, a lie...as it wanted freedom for religious persecution aka Rome while persecuting native Americans and began enslaving Africans all in the name of religion, in the name of Christ. America's iniquity is so great that it will literally summon the second coming of Christ as she's indeed the last kingdom to rule, the last kingdom to openly defy God and in the name of His own Son.
Powerful message !🙏
Thank you so much for the pdf on EGW's Counsels on Blacks.
Amen Kevin, keep speaking the truth and speaking it boldly!
What book Is Ben quoting from during the 10 mins before the break? When quoting please state the book and if possible the paragraph.🖒
I wondered the same thing. I finally found it in Letters and Manuscripts, vol. 1, letter 24, 1862. It was a letter she wrote to Bro. A.R. in Oswego, New York. A portion of the same letter is included in Testimonies Vol. 1, page 358-360.
@@debrabankscuadro311 🖒
I heard through a pastor that the Our church part took investments in fire arms can’t recall in what years
Oh yes they have
Present truth is what the flock needs now!
been watching today's Savedtoserve midday power and he is presenting some astonishing things about slavery.
Kevin is correct when he states E. E. Clevlands sermon on That Stubborn Day That Won't Go Away, is such a great sermon about the Sabbath I have heard it several times go several times. I'ts wonderful.
Hmm there's so much we need to learn
Can anyone tell me the name of the compilation by EGW they mentioned? Trying to find it.
I wondered the same thing. I finally found it in Letters and Manuscripts, vol. 1, letter 24, 1862. It was a letter she wrote to Bro. A.R. in Oswego, New York. A portion of the same letter is included in Testimonies Vol. 1, page 358-360.
Yes a podcast please!!!! Do it!!!