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"Some principles for correctly interpreting the writings of EGW" State: "The same kind of factual errors can be discovered in EGWs writings as are found in the Bible, the writings of God's Prophets are infallible as a guide to salvation but they are not inerrant or without error" My response: The Bible is a compilation of books made up by men it's a know factor these men added as they subtracted from these books which subsequently became the Bible as we know it.The SCROLLS which these books were derived from is a different story;Q:are they the original Scrolls? I do not believe they are With this belief in hand I believe it is preposterous that EGW should claim "the writings of God's prophets are infallible as a guide to salvation but👁️they are not inerrant or without error"👀 So I would argue that NO the same kind of factual errors found in EGW writings are not to be found in the Original Scrolls as she attest. The errors spoken of in the found dead sea scrolls are transcription errors & intentional editing of Yahuah's Word. EGW discredited the!Bible! Scrollistic prophets and their writings in an attempt to validate her writings, she demoted them promoting herself in the process equating, seemingly herself to them, when in reality she'd elevated herself above them claiming to know whence their WORDS cometh from. In 1886 egw wrote>"the Bible is written by Inspired men, but it is not God's mode of thought and expression it is that of humanity, God as a writer is not represented, the writers of the Bible were God's penmen not his pen. It is not the wds of the Bible that are inspired but the men that were inspired.<"this could be true depending on how it's viewed>the ever-changing aforementioned BIBLE by man as we know it<BIBLE👀 yes that is of humanity. The Scrolls on the other hand I whole heartedly doubt it. If she's referring to the Scrolls as it is not the wds of the Bible that are inspired but the men that were inspired, I suppose it would be fair to say "it is not the course of the sun/moon/stars that are inspired but the sun/moon/stars that were inspired👀

always good to hear you again PR

Awesome series. You explained Seven Heads and Ten Horns so well. I now understand this Beast. Thank you.

5 mins in and you're building a strawman smh ...No protestant critic of SDA deny's God's judgement . This is were term "Judgement Day" comes from. We deny the "investigative judgment" the SDA doctrine thats says it started in 1844

They are deliberate in their actions...to try and deceive many. I wonder who's children the bible says such are. If they wanted to truth they would invite people who know instead of discussing falsehood amongst themselves as they always do.

Im a quiet learner and digester no offense to all pastors but most of the time I scream Amen in my heart as I take notes Yet it is true we need to normalize being so excited for Jesus’ return as we are with the resignation of the good God has done for our life .. its like we only love him for what he has done but not for what he is going to do but I have hope that what I cant see yet will happen I just cant picture exactly how it would look or when it will happen

Pr Myers, please pray for me... I want to be hidden in Jesus... Thank you

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Looking forward to watching this! I’m thankful that you’re presenting this topic!

What you do not know could hurt you. If there is a judgement, there must be an investigation. As in the physical, so in the spiritual.

Great video! I pray that people will humble themselves like a little child so that the Holy Spirit can guide them in to all truth 🙏

Jesus will not be casting lots lol

So this doctrine puts Jesus and satan on the same level . Both goats needs to be without blemish. This doctrine needs to be accepted for the great controversy world view. Jesus is God and the sacrifice needed to blameless and perfect. Also there is no great controversy because no one can judge God.

Great Bible truth! It is a blessing to be a Seventh-day Adventist!

We’re on the same page Pastor 🕊️🙏🏼

This sounds like a fire discussion already 🔥

Long before I became an SDA did I believe in the scapegoat message and I didn’t learn it from SDA but from other Christians who studied Torah and the day of atonement and what it all meant. To say it’s only in SDA is missing the elephant in the room.

Amen pastor but you can't open the eye of willfully blindness and who is intellectually dishonest

🙏 thank you

Thanks for sharing! 🙏🙌

I can't even get right the things I'm saying. the things I'm doing too

You keep saying we have to keep the 2 commandments. How do I keep to take commandments? I want to keep the ten commandments, but it seems like every time I try.I stumble

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Amen

Pastor you know people love di mix up n blenda....😅...may we cling to Jesus as our lives do depend on Him.

Fully!😮 thumbs down a thousand times.

False. !! As an SDA I have never heard of that Clear Word Bible. Are they Jesuits? Will NEVER WANT to SEE THIS BLOG AGAIN!!!

They hate the truth, plain and simple. They can not touch us on scripture, so they have to attack the prophet. They still want to kill the prophets, no different today than it was back then.

Ecclesiastes 12:12 was the verse that converted me from atheism, 10 years ago. Praise the Lord ❤

This is awesome stuff! Never heard this, but makes perfect sense. Praise God!

Pastor Myers, thank you so much. This is so clear. God bless you and your ministry, and sorry you have to correct a PhD scholar and others who are not behaving scholarly at all. Doesn't it just make sense that one goat was for the Lord and one for Azazel? The goat chosen for the Lord is the Lord's and the other one just isn't, it can't be, as the Lord's goat is identified, and it is the one that is killed and atonement is made by this goat. The Lord only has one goat in this scenario, and it is not identified as Azazel. How can we not understand this verse in Leviticus 16:8 "And Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats; one lot for the LORD, and the other lot for the scapegoat." Let's use the process of deduction here. 1. How many goats are mentioned in the passage? Answer = 2 2. How many goats does the Lord have? Answer = 1 3. Is the Lord's goat identified as the scapegoat (Azazel)? No The lots were cast so that the Lord's goat could be identified. It therefore suggests that the other goat is not the Lord's goat at all. Come on guys, you claim Adventists say Satan is their sin-bearer but this is what you believe. You see the scapegoat, that represents Satan, as Christ. Is Satan going to be punished for sin? If yes, he has to bear the punishment for it like a criminal for a crime. Pastor Myors, you need to teach these guys the sanctuary message, and maybe they will get it eventually as they are picking random themes to knock Adventists. I would like to challenge these men to answer, How did these scholars conclude that the scapegoat is Jesus? I would love to see this from Scripture and the early church father's writings and any other application sources. What approach to interpreting scripture did they apply to come to these conclusions? Once again Pastor Myors, thank you for what you are doing. Mark Larman (UK)

Debating with liars is a waste of time. There’s no other way to address liars than to call them liars until they repent.

The idea of an investigative judgment is all through the scriptures!! How can anyone deny this??

I hope Preston Perry is listening to this.

I like how the pastors wife is calming him down lol I love this man’s passion for the word of God it’s awesome. They definitely mess with the wrong dude go e’em pastor.

I'm starting to question the sdas on the scapegoat, look up messiah ~2030 prophetic messianic timeline. By messiah 2030. I'm not entirely sure what he is saying. I have to watch it again.

HalleluYAH! 🙌🏾

What is the title of the full video?

If only Adventists believe this, remember what “they” said about us ..” “Perhaps the boldest thing, the most revolutionary change the Church ever did, happened in the first century. The holy day, the Sabbath, was changed from Saturday to Sunday. "The Day of the Lord" (dies Dominica) was chosen, not from any directions noted in the Scriptures, but from the Church's sense of its own power. The day of resurrection, the day of Pentecost, fifty days later, came on the first day of the week. So this would be the new Sabbath. People who think that the Scriptures should be the sole authority, should logically become 7th Day Adventists, and keep Saturday holy.” -Sentinel, Pastor's page, Saint Catherine Catholic Church, Algonac, Michigan, May 21, 1995 😊 I accept being ostracized for Christ’s sake! The scriptures actually makes it clear in Lev 16 who the Lord’s goat represents, and who the scapegoat(azazel) represents. They can’t both be the same based on the context of the chapter.

this video is actually cristal clear. I mean, critics, please understand the intent of this video and what it implies. stop moving the goal post. This understanding of the scapegoas is not unique to SDAs period end. Now I happen to believe that it is the correct understanding. But this was NOT the intent of this video. PAstor Myers only endevoured to show that the assertion that only SDAs have this belief about the scapegoat is false. come on people

For about nine hundred years from the time of Irenaeus and Origen up until the time of St. Anselm the ransom theory was popular among the church fathers. According to this theory the sacrifice of Christ’s life served as a ransom to deliver man from the bondage to Satan and from the corruption and death that were the consequences of sin. The church fathers tended to interpret Jesus’ ransom saying (Mark 10:45) that the son of Man has come to give his life as a ransom for many very literally to mean that Jesus as the scapegoat made a payment in exchange for which human beings were set free from bondage. The sacrifice of Christ’s life was then a ransom given to Satan to free humanity from the bondage of sin and death represented by Christ going into the wilderness as a scapegoat bearing the sins of mankind to Azazel. Dr Phillip Schaff a theological appraisal of the recapitulation and ransom theories of atonement. Ivor misquoted the church fathers, I’m not surprised No church father ever said Satan is the scapegoat, you will never find that anyway, it’s distinctly Adventist. Church fathers taught ransom theory of atonement not that Satan was the scapegoat but that the scapegoat symbolised the bearing of sins to Azazel, the death of Christ symbolised his payment to Azazel. Please do not tarnish the name of the early church, study if you are not familiar with their work and don’t lie to thousands of people

11:21 “they weren’t thinking of Adventists” Maybe not, but maybe they were. After all, Faithlife (owners of Lexham Press) has a software product specifically for SDAs that costs hundreds of dollars for a single license. (Logos 10 SDA Gold, $999) Just saying…crazier things have been done than tacking on a throwaway sentence on a definition in service of not upsetting your clientele. Who can say for sure?

You are not honest, you need to make a video repenting of the heresies you are teaching. Irenaeus or Origen, none of them teach what you are teaching, you misquoted them. They taught something called the ransom theory of atonement . The Eastern Orthodox Church still hold on to a variant of that teaching. None of those people taught that the scapegoat is Satan or Azazel. They taught that the scapegoat was sent as a ransom or penalty to Azazel. The scapegoat is not Azazel but was sent to the demon to carry the sins to it, the same way Jesus took the sins to the wilderness making the scapegoat Jesus. Ivor Myers this makes you a liar, if you want evidence, we can go to the ransom theory and prove what I said and show that you twisted the quotes of the early church fathers.

Even Jewish teaching and understanding of the two goats is that the goats are opposites, and “in contrast” the one from the other. For obvious reasons they do not identify either goats as Christ, but they clearly understand that they do not represent the same personages. “The very fact that the two goats were presented before Yhwh before the one was sacrificed and the other sent into the wilderness, was proof that Azazel was not ranked with Yhwh, but regarded simply as the personification of wickedness in contrast with the righteous government of Yhwh.” -Jewish encyclopedia This may not be every jewish teaching on the matter but shows that even in Judaism there is a belief that the goats are in contrast with each other and not the same personage. The other Jewish tradition on the matter is that the scapegoat was NOT welcomed back into their community after the day of atonement was finished. To avoid Azazel coming back into the camp it would be led out into the wilderness never to return to them again. The person leading the goat away from the people would make sure that the azazel goat was killed so that it would most definitely never return to them. So, if the first goat represents Christ which we can all agree on, and this goat is used for expiation and is killed, then how does Christ (if the second goat is also Christ) die again? This is a sequential preceding, and we cannot have Christ dying twice. Also, doesn’t it bother anyone that believes azazel is Christ that it is sent into the wilderness and NEVER returns? I mean kind of defeats that Christ said he would return again to his people. Just a few points to consider of many, and this is all in the context of a legal proceeding, the day of judgement. Who is the father of sin? Does he NOT factor AT ALL into these proceedings? Does he not bear any guilt or responsibility for the sins he caused to commit? In our jurisprudence even if a person does not actually commit the crime but masterminds it, he is guilty of the crime, and most of the time law enforcement tries to go after the mastermind. Is God lacking and we are superior? I don’t think so. Wouldn’t the father of sin end up (Yom Kippur is the last feast before sukkot -God dwelling once again with mankind) with the send he fathered? Isn’t only fair that it’s returned to the originator of sin? If someone brings something unwanted into our home wouldn’t we send that person out along with that unwanted item (be it drugs, alcohol, etc)? Once sin is dealt with in the day of judgement Satan can have his sins and take it into the wilderness where he will eventually die by the hand of a fit man. Revelation 20 -describes that, and after that is done, then chapter 21 which is Sukkot, which is the order of the last two feasts in God’s calendar (Lev. 23).

7:01 “ …[others] have held that Azazel was Satan.” Lots of people have had wrong ideas about scripture. I venture a guess that everyone has some wrong idea about something in scripture. This is as normal as a blue sky. The difference with EGW, is that she delivered her wrong ideas about scripture along with “The angel said to me…”, “I saw…”, or “Thus saith the Lord.” Do you see the difference there?

4:46 this is what it looks like for someone to, in real-time, wrestle with the cognitive distance of their beliefs, being misaligned with Ellen White and the church’s official position.