Jim Cornette on The Fattest Wrestlers
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- From Episode 154 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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"Yokozuna was carrying so much weight. He was doing cardio walking to the car" - Jim Cornette
I mean he ate literal things called Turkey asses and dip them mayo !!
@asantos128 They're actually called "turkey tails"... they're a very popular, national-dish level delicacy in Samoa (a result of when US poultry producers exported excess turkey parts to Pacific Island nations in the 1950s so they wouldn't go to waste)
I thought Yoko died of a build up of liquid in his lungs and not due to his weight.
@@danengen8833 It was a heart attack while he was in the UK. I remember the Daily Mirror at the time claiming it was brought on by him seeing a spider in his hotel room because he was very arachnophobic but it seems more likely that it happened because of his obesity.
Reminds me of Gregg Valentino dismissing fat guys who insisted they were powerlifters: "Sure, you're a powerlifter...every time you get out of bed!"
The McGuire Twins were surprise witnesses at the Simpsons trial of Chester J. Lampwick vs. Itchy & Scratchy Studis.
which episode???
@@nriab23 the one where Bart and Lisa help that bum (Chester J Lampwick) sue Roger Meyers Jr over the rights to Itchy and Scratchy because Roger Meyers Sr stole the cartoon off of Chester. In the same episode he fights grandpa Simpson because of Chester not painting his fence.
Yeah I think they ended up in court themselves for driving into the courtroom on their motorbikes.
Giant Haystacks in England also should be mentioned, he was huge
True. Also had a stint in WCW as Loch Ness in the 90s. Huge man!
@It is What it is Big Daddy, he was another big one, though not the biggest around, in the 70s I think he was somewhere around 350 lbs., in the first half of his career in the 50s he was huge in the other way, a big powerhouse, old-school steak & potatoes type of musculature renowned for his strength. In the 70s he returned heavily overweight, couldn't wrestle his way out of a paper bag but when he entered the room everyone knew he was there
@@Mike-qo3dq and he didn't last long in wcw even back in the clown show that was early 90s wcw he was awful.
@@willjohnboy To be fair to Giant Haystacks he was 50 years old at the time and had cancer.
He was mentioned first thing
I'm so glad Jim tells these stories, so that they don't get lost to history.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Jim Cornette is one of the best oral historians today
Bruno Sammartino said no one believed Calhoun was as heavy as he was billed, so they had an official weigh in that revealed Calhoun was fourteen pounds heavier than he was billed!
The most surprising part of the death of the McGuire Twin is that he died in a motorcycle accident and not from being 700 pounds.
You know, 700 pounds is quite a lot for a motorcycle. That change in the inertia...
@@juanckjim I can't find any details of the accident online, so it's possible his weight was a factor.
Either way, it will be classified as a covid-19 death.
@@KayFabe87😂
The picture of the McGuire twins on bikes is iconic. After 30 years that is the only picture in the Guinness book that I remember vividly. Hell they became a shirt, a meme, etc.
That one and the guy with about 100 cigarettes in his mouth.
@@solitaryman7485 LMFAO! I forgot about that one. Cheers!
Very Iconic.
Even appeared in the Simpsons.
Pretty soon Chris Jericho will qualify.
Bruh I can't... 😂😂
@Brandon Linares bwahahahahahaha I'm dying. Thanks yall.
Fuuuucckkkkkkkkl...😂😂
I hardly ever comment and I saw this and started laughing so hard I almost cried 😭. Thanks friend
At least his new action figure is buff lookong 😆
There was Cheeks on one of the first episodes of TNA. Under 6 foot but weighed over 600 pounds. Lasted one match where he was gassed walking to the ring, won his bout which probably lasted less than a minute and was never seen again.
He was the first ever match I think - dark match before the 1st PPV started and he BROKE THE RING. TNA went on air for the very first time with all the crew frantically trying to fix the ring!
Benny had the weight loss surgery.... I got to know him by correspondence on the old Yahoo wrestling legends group... We were all saddened when he passed away.... He was such a nice man....
The fact that happy Humphrey made it to 62 and new jack only made it to 58 is amazing to me
Add to the fact that Abdullah the Butcher is still around at 82-83 years old
Mabel aka Viscera aka Big Daddy V could surprisingly do a spinning heel kick despite his 500lb weight in the 90's.
Crusher Blackwell looked morbidly obese but was athletic as a cruiserweight. A true anomaly in wrestling
He did cool promos too. I remember him body splashing 2x4s to snap them in half.
Blackwell had it all but the AWA didn’t have secondary singles titles like the NWA or WWF at the time. But he was at his prime best when he was paired with Ken Patera and Shiek Adnan el-Kassie
Blackwell could throw a standing dropkick as good as anyone in the business. He was tremendously agile for his size as was Adrian Adonis.
'They had to flap their arms so you could tell whether they were rolling or walking' 😁😂🤦🏾♂️ wow
Yarborough was UFC 3. Faced 205 pound Keith Hackney, Keith knocked the shit out of him.
Which was why Yarborough retired and became an actor.
Yeah Jim is thinking of Teila Tuli. Another huge dude who went in to acting. Was in Get Him To The Greek amongst others.
Yarborough also was in pride & I believe went like 1& 9. Pretty much immobile
I remember that match. I saw Yarbrough coming down the aisle and thought this guy will beat everyone. WRONG!!!! He got his butt handed to him in his first match.
Earthquake and Typhoon were up there in terms of weight back in the early 90’s.
Fatty Thomas, Big Daddy, The Klondikes and Giant Haystacks all big fellows from the UK.
Didn't Big Daddy accidentally kill a guy in the ring when he did a splash on him?
@@gtrman69777 😲
Fatty Thomas is the TwinkleToes McFingerBang in real life
Giant Haystacks from the UK was 6ft 11 and weighed 685lbs.
I met him in person I'm 6ft 9 and he was taller than me!
That was later in his career with age and surgery he was hunched over like Hogan today.
The artwork sells itself.
"Jim washes mah back with a raaaaaaaaag on a stiiiiiiiiiick"
" he had no weight to him he was just huge " - jim
Well, after over 20 years i finally know who those two motorcycle guys were when Homer went buy obese clothes
And when Lionel Hutz called all his surprise witnesses again they were there
kids in the 80s who read the Guinness book of world records , which was just about every kid, knew who those fat twins were. I believe they were the ' heaviest twins in the world' for a time, maybe they still have that record idk.
Also wen they appeared in plasticine form in the 80s on Michael Jackson's video for "Speed Demon".
@tapset47 heres a movie for you fatty, a fridge too far
@@Tommybhoy-df9hk I think I'll order a tab
There was a Haystacks Calhoun reference on Raw this week to pop the younger viewers
Given the RAW demos, this is barely an exaggeration.
@SuperPikachu Jexs im 35 and know of him only cause my dad told me about him
Not to be confused with “Giant Haystacks,” who in the ‘70s was Andre’s height and 600+ lbs, but stayed mostly in the U.K.
@@DeeEllEff I remember him, he was in WCW for a bit, part of the Dungeon of Doom. 6'11 and 685 lbs.
@@DeeEllEff the only way modern sort of fans may know him is under the name Loch Ness. He was on WCW Uncensored 1996.
I think the logical fat guy gimmick these days is more the offensive lineman kind of size. So guys like Vader. They have a noticeable amount of flab on them but are also muscular and athletic and look like they could kick your ass. Or you can go sumo like Rikishi and Earthquake where they can still work a match but can incorporate a butt drop or splash into their offense and that's a protected finisher because of their size. The day of freak show wrestlers that make the odd appearance every few years makes no sense without the territory system. WWE isn't going to hire some fat guy to appear a few times and then disappear and bring him back a few years later.
Keith Lee is a good example of a modern fat guy with the Vader physique.
I like this guy that was in ICP's JCW usually billed as Haystacks Calhoun Jr elsewhere but they called him Hornswaggling Hillbilly czcams.com/video/DEyeoaq9Iqw/video.html czcams.com/video/477cFHaCOfs/video.html
I think they used the same pic of the McGuire Twins for several years in the Guinness Book. I recall seeing them on Phil Donahue's show in the 80s along with other so-called "freaks".
Conrad Thompson does some amazing work for his size.
I saw the McGuire Brother versus Jerry Lawyer and Gorgeous George, Jr. in Evansville, IN sometime around '72 or '73....
Marko Stunt would get lost behind one of these guys' moobs.
Ironically Billy McGuire was killed on his motorcycle in the late 70s.
Benny lived into his 50s and died of heart failure (shocker)
And then on Raw it just so happened that Shayna Bayzler referenced Haystacks Calhoun
Love to see wrestling references in my wrestling
Don't tell the Beaver
@@thekidfromiowa He be like "We don't talk about old wrestlers. This is sports entertainment" while he's chomping on some wood.
@@chada75 😂😂
haha the picture reminds me of when bart simpson had the fat fantasy and was like "I wash myself with a rag on a stick"
Anyone remember the episode of Space Ghost when Macho Man was Braks dad and talked about Haystacks calhoun?
Macho Man was actually Space Ghost's dad in that episode. He also name-dropped the original Gorgeous George, Chief Wahoo McDaniel, Leapin' Lanny Poffo & Wildfire Tommy Rich in a promo about how all of them "Fell to my patented Purple-Nurple, Yellow-Bellied OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!".
@@Kingofweasles Exactly. Brak's dad is a tiny Argentinian man.
Sent him home to mommy with a roooollllinn DDT
Here's part of it: czcams.com/video/jH-mwIV2pp8/video.html
Did you know your on the tv??!!
" bring the midgets tonight, the kids are wrestling"- Jim Cornette 😂
BIG Sal E. Graziano of the FBI in ECW was huge.
Old wrestling fan I knew saw Haystacks in 1970 up in Massachusetts and drank a few beers with him in the parking lot after the show. He asked Haystacks "How strong are you, really?" Haystacks set down his beer and casually deadlifted the front end of the car he'd been leaning against.
I saw Haystacks wrestle Gorgeous George in Boston Garden in the early 60's.
Eventually Jericho will literally break the walls down.
Right now the walls have stretch marks with a Front Butt.
@@JonLa89 I never thought I'd see Al Snow look more buff than Jericho. What happened to him? Even in 2010, he looked young.
The LionheartAttack
@@derekroberts5931 He looked pretty good even in 2017....probably age caught up to him....he is 50 years old....makes sense that he can't go as long as he uses to back in the hay days...
Arnav Bhagwat Jericho’s a pretty heavy drinker add the fact he’s seems to be trying to live the whole rock and roll lifestyle now a days I’m not surprised he’s let himself go as much as he has.
Giant Heystacks and big daddy in the u.k
Heystacks would go on to be Lock Ness in WCW
Its a shame Haystacks was ill with cancer when his WCW run started. He couldn't work and basically came straight home.
Haystacks could work as well, he was also tall. In the late 60s he faced Andre and was clearly taller and larger than him. Although Andre kept growing so by their second match in the 70s he was taller than Stacks.
@@Djarra He was really good for a big man considering he was working with little guys like Kendo Nagasaki and a pre steroids Davey Boy Smith. He held his own really well.
@Metropcs Metropcs Giant Haystacks was from the UK, Haystacks Calhoon was American. Giant Haystacks worked as Luke McMaster and Loch Ness in the US/Can (Primeraly for Stu Hart and then for WCW in the mid 90s)
I didn't know that was him. I vaguely remember that character in WCW.
According to Harley, Happy Humphrey wrestled at over 900 pounds once. Humphrey and Haystacks Calhoun coincidentally both died in 1989.
On wwe 24/7 legends of wrestling on episode Jim Ross talked about The McGuire Twins using the whole shower stale
I met Haystacks in 1969 at Collingswood N.J.he was driving a International truck, I was 18 yrs.old ,he was huge !
I thought Jim was going to say the dog faced pony soldier 😂💀💀💀
Shelton Benjamin running up that ladder was the most athletically thing I ever seen a muscular guy do! It was impressive! So my vote it he was fast!
Shinya Hashimoto was both fast and fatty!
Haystack Calhoun wasn't just big, he was super strong in real life, and was able to move Happy Humphrey easily around the ring, despite being outweighed by 200 lbs
My parents in WV knew Haystacks Calhoun they lived in the same rooming house as the wrestlers who came into Charleston to wrestle.
Tenta was quite the light on his feet big guy.
This video got me thinking so I looked up Fred Ottman (Tugboat/Typhoon) and I honestly thought he had died years ago so I was pleasantly surprised to find out he's still alive
Of course the first RI letter has a misspelling. Great job reppin the state Eric!
Earthquake, Typhoon, Vader, Bastion Booger, Mabel and Yokozuna are all Big Boys from the late eighties and up. :)
What about British wrestler Giant Haystacks aka loch Ness in wcw
Six foot eleven and just under seven hundred, so should've been mentioned.
@@theradgegadgie6352 He made Big Daddy Shirley look slim.
@@Hi-kq1vi I trained for just under a year, back in the last couple of years of the last century. Every old-timer I ever met told me the same thing: Shirley Crabtree, the country's top blue-eye, was the tightest old bastard ever, who wouldn't give you a cup of piss to put out your home if it was on fire; but Martin Ruane, the country's top villain, was the sweetest-natured guy who'd give you the shirt off his back.
What about Road Block lol
@@theradgegadgie6352 I saw Daddy live in 1984 & he exposed the business for me-from the high seat I had I could see his belly flop missed the opponents by a long way-he had been my hero until that point. My dad took me ringside after the match to meet him with the other kids-they were all jumping up & down to get his autograph etc, I just looked at him not wanting anything to do with him-my dad was more excited to meet him & Daddy looked back shocked/surprised like he knew I had seen what a fraud he was. He stunk of what smelled like perfume as well.
Even guys like Abdullah The Butcher he was less than 300lbs when he started
Viscera with that singlet
AldousHuxley's Ghost he was fat but not as big as the other guys
The person who put him in a singlet has a reserved spot in Hell for them. lol
McGuire Twins, Haystacks Calhoun, Yokozuna, Rikishi, Kevin Owens and Nia Jax are heavier than the entire NXT roster 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Kevin is only 260-270, nowhere near the largest even today, Nia is big but not as big as Awesome Kong
Owens used to be bigger when he was on the indies. WWE had him get his weight under control a little better. He's chubby now, but I wouldn't put him in the category with Nia. She's a big 'un 😂.
Mick Foley was fatter than Kevin Owen's
What about Viscera, he was near 7ft and weigh close to 500 lbs?
Viscera was 6'9
Viscera was 6'6",6'7 at most. Nowhere near 7ft.
Chris Jericho the Walrus god beating others with a little bit of the blubber.
Let's see your picture
Don't forget Kamala, the Ugandan Vice President
Earthquake, Yoko and Rikishi are my favourite 'big guys' all who could work, and were over.
Earthquake is one of my all time favourites. Great wrestler and totally underestimated. Yoko is considered by those in the business as a great worker and he was over to me. Rikishi has gotten out of vogue but in his 2000's push he was great! He had one of my favourite Cage matches with Val Venis.
Perhaps the most legendary big guy was Vader but he doesn't fit the 'big guy' moniker like Yoko or Mabel.
I've also got a soft spot for Giant Haystacks and Viscera.
Ones I never want to see again are the Bastion Booger or Abdullah. Abdullah is... bleurgh. It's what was wrong with wrestling.
Abby was good at making guys bleed.
Can’t forget about my boy King Kong Bundy
Earthqauqe, Bundy, and Bigelow for me
Viscera had a point in his career where he was the most immobile wrestler I have ever seen. I remember their was a backstage hardcore match from around the 24-7 era where 2 wrestlers brawled towards Viscera, Viscera body slammed one of them and then they wrestled away from Viscera.
I remember a team of huge men called Kongs. Think it was in GWF
The Colossal Kongs?
Wrestling In the 70s and early 80s was so different, now we have high productions, everyone Is doing flips and they are ripped but back then It was more.. casual or fun, these were simple dark arenas and guys that were Just big, that was the attraction, come see how big this guy Is or come see this guy wrestle a bear
I bet the arenas stunk with some of those guys sweating and moving
"JoJo the dog faced boy or Zippy the pinhead or whatever" Jim I'm fucking DEAD
don't forget mass transit lmao
Love Me some Jim Cornette. He is one of the only Managers I've never met. Still would LOVE to.
There's a version of The Mcguire Twins in Michael Jackson's "Smooth Criminal Video".
I always enjoy Jim cuttin a promo on WWE or AEW stooges but his old school wrestling stories are my favourite
No mention of Conrad Thompson??
Conrad could eat the Natural Disasters for breakfast.
One thing Bobby Heenan said that was so funny was in a match between Earthquake and Typhoon vs Money Inc, he argued how both Money Inc should be allowed to be in the ring at the same time with Earthquake or Typhoon because of their size to make it fair. lol
There was a Scottish wrestler called Loch Ness in WCW in the '90s, who was billed at 699lb. "That weasel face Jimmy 'Art promised he'd fix me a shot at Hulk Hogan!" There was also a guy in the Northeast, IWF or IWC, in the early '90s called The Bulldozer, who was billed at 555lb., he was very tall, and if not 555 probably weighed at least 450.
Loch Ness was better known as Giant Haystacks in the UK, he was English
Watch him on his Nitro Appearances.
He fails to catch his opponent in one of the few spots he had to do.
Mable in the 90s WWF..One Man Gang. Big Boss Man
First to come to mind were the McGuire, wasnt Harley race their handler back when he was coming up lol
Harley was Happy Humphrey's handler
@@XLordLeamingtonX aaah that's right.
Yeah the twins on bikes in the Simpsons when Lionel huts called surprised witness 😭
There were also mannequins of them in the big and tall store Homer goes to after he gains a ton of weight so he can work from home.
Chris Taylor. Didn't live long, but arguably the most skilled of the superheavyweights.
Cumberland Rhode Island is where that bar Tim White owned is located.
The WWE actually did attempt to bring back the country bumpkin angle in the 80's. They had a guy dressed up like haystacks called Hillbilly Jim supposedly trained by Hulk Hogan. He had a successful run for a few years, and they brought in 2 more "Family" members named Uncle Elmer and Cousin Junior. Jim and Junior could move around alright for thier size, but Elmer just lumbered around in or out of the ring. All 3 seemed to have disappeared after Wrestlemania 3.
I want to say Jim ended up becoming some type of management for Coliseum Video (which was WWE's original video arm). No idea on what happened to Junior or Elmer though I believe Elmer died a number of years ago.
Emmanuel Yarbourgh was UFC 3 . The sumo from UFC 1 was Teila Tuli Aka Taylor Wily . 😉
He was on "Oz" as well.
Weren't the twins in the Michael Jackson video for speed demon on moonwalker vhs?
Yep...I think they're part of the group chasing MJ for his autograph.
McGuire twins were referenced on The Office when Michael Scott did his Klumps impression.
You gotta love the artwork 😂😂😂
Prob my favorite of all the cartoons I've seen here.
The Mighty Biggs
Hagerstown Maryland
HoPWF in 2000 or so. He was massive even as he crumbled under his own weight from a back injury(?). Met him once. Super nice.
Back in the '40's I think there was a Man Mountain Dean but he wasn't as big as the later fat giants. I saw Haystacks Calhoun. He could work.
"various fat rolls and everything"
Nia jax
I saw Haystacks Calhoun when I was a teenager when he tagged with Abe Jacobs in Seattle. I went to the wrestler's entrance aisle to see him and remembering thinking "my height, maybe slightly taller, 400 to 450 tops". He actually had a lot of muscle underneath. He probably got fatter during his career waiting for the hot tag from Jacobs. And, maybe he kept the horseshoe on when he was weighed and it weighed 150 pounds
I didn't know the motorcycle guys were wrestlers.
Yes. I've seen the 'Twins' live in the Portageville, MO National Guard armory.
R.I.P. Mass Transit
Man for how big Yoko was he was a great athlete
I think guys built like offensive lineman in nfl would still work in today’s wrestling
You still have to have the strength and Flexilbity agility spped to be a offensive linemen in the nfl,
Well, Kevin Owens is still in the wrestling business....😉
@John Volken The ghost of Happy Humphrey. WWE does a Halloween Havoc PPV this year and one of the matches will be Kewin Owens vs The Halloween Humphrey in a Cow-Pie Eating-contest.
Owens is 260.
@@atomthorium3744 Kilos.
I miss the really big guys. Earthquake was one my favourites as a kid
Holy shit. I live in Cumberland RI so random
I think Jim's right in that people started seeing through it. The fitness craze of the 80s and 90s probably didn't really help things either. It became more about muscles than just size.
After that, big guys had to be able to move some. Granted, there were still plenty that weren't the marvels guys like Bam Bam, Vader, Blackwell, or Gang were, but they moved enough that they could believably beat people. Even Mabel, for all of his problems in the ring, could move around.
Then over time that obsession started seeing the "fat" guys getting more or less phased out all together. Every now and then someone would make it to WWE, but it's become rare. I'm not sure anyone on the roster is even approaching 400 lbs.
National television. Once you can see the best of the freak acts on television there’s no appeal in seeing a lesser act at a small show.
I know a year ago when Omos was being pushed he was around 400-410 but he was also 7’3 so he didn’t look fat
i wonder who Scott Steiner would say
HAILING FROM DUNKIN DONUTS
@@chadrh58 😂😂
Chad Hassey “FROM THE GREAT STATE OF OBESITY “
I wonder what his educated mathematical analysis of their weight would be
@@toddwilliams8128 all i know is the numbers dont lie and they spell disaster for Kurt Angle and Samoa Joe at sacrifice 👊
I read it as fastest wrestlers
I met Benny McGuire when I was real young(Maybe at a carnival) he was sitting on a couch and people would come up to him and he would talk wrestling, I might have been 5 or 6 years old so I don't remember much more than that.
Yokozuna was 6 foot 4 and 600 Pounds. Haystacks Calhoun was 6 foot 4 and 600 Pounds. King Kong Bundy was 6 foot 4 and 460 Pounds.
Mid 80's wwf had Uncle Elmer who beside being fat really couldnt do anyhting
I’m surprised he didn’t mention him, he was a mainstay of Memphis wrestling for a very long time
Giant Haystacks was way bigger than Haystacks Calhoun
the Mcguire Twins are in the Guinness Book Of World Records for being the world's fattest twins. And let's be really honest about Yokozuna.. He could move and do a few things, but if you watch his matches after he put on over 100 pounds plus.. He really couldn't do much other than the splash, belly to belly, and leg drop because once he hit the mat, he couldn't even kick out because his legs were too heavy.
billy mcguire died first in 79, benny died in 2001.
Humphries, Calhoun, McGwires ..
I mean in comparison, wrestlers like Big Daddy was almost like Mike Von Erich.
And if you're going to go there, Bigelow, Kamala and Crusher Blackwell were up there as well.
I think Haystacks could've been a strongman with the right training. He wasn't just big, but amazingly strong, too.
You didn't mention Crusher Blackwell.
I saw the McGuire Brothers wrestle when I was a kid
and Haystacks Calhoun