Is Atlanta Full?

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  • čas přidán 5. 09. 2024

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  • @scpatl4now
    @scpatl4now Před 4 měsíci +139

    Candler Park, Old 4th Ward, Little 5 Points, Emory, West Midtown. I think that's all of them

    • @IamNiggler
      @IamNiggler Před 4 měsíci +9

      I'm gay too buddy

    • @nathandaven
      @nathandaven  Před 4 měsíci +17

      Missed Vine City and Downtown! And could technically say Atlantic Station & Home Park, also Edgewood, but you won the first attempt pin 🫡

    • @scpatl4now
      @scpatl4now Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@nathandaven I assumed the downtown was a given and Atlantic Station and Home Park could kinda be grouped as West Midtown these days with all the construction going on there. I did miss Vine City though.

    • @dereknueveuno
      @dereknueveuno Před 4 měsíci +2

      Westend/Eastpoint, Hapeville, there’s so many lil neighborhoods

    • @flyingjoed
      @flyingjoed Před 4 měsíci +3

      ​@@scpatl4nowAtlantic Station and West Midtown are vastly different. Different vibe.

  • @UppityOne
    @UppityOne Před 4 měsíci +72

    Atlanta is not full. The infrastructure is outdated and the city lacks extensive public transportation.

  • @Nozizaki
    @Nozizaki Před 4 měsíci +103

    This is really high quality for a channel of this size. It's really obvious you are passionate about Atlanta (and ubranism). Keep fighting the good fight!

  • @erickchavez8469
    @erickchavez8469 Před 4 měsíci +239

    i grew up in gwinnett county. it’s so awful, why is a county of 1 million people has no public transportation!!!

    • @Prodigious1One
      @Prodigious1One Před 4 měsíci +22

      LMAO! It's a psychology of redundance! I hope that Gwinnett votes yes to Marta trains in their county the next time that they consider the idea.

    • @bluelivesmurder5696
      @bluelivesmurder5696 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I grew up in Fulton County, but live in Gwinnett County today. I saw fir the very first time just today, a public bus in Gwinnett County, called "Ride Gwinnett".

    • @niggaflies
      @niggaflies Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@Prodigious1OneGwinnett will not vote yes to Marta for two reasons. Marta wants to add one cent county tax, two the residents of Gwinnett foolishly belief that buy allowing public transportation their will be more crime. I’ve been here since 2001 and they always vote down Marta despite the fact that it’s minority majority now.

    • @glovelace
      @glovelace Před 4 měsíci +21

      Thank the short-sighted / xenophobic past and present residents of Gwinnett (and Cobb) county.

    • @zalanahara270
      @zalanahara270 Před 4 měsíci +8

      You know why. Stop acting like you don't. WE DO NOT NEED ANY PUBLIC T.

  • @AntonWongVideo
    @AntonWongVideo Před 4 měsíci +70

    when I visited ATL this past December, I noticed that there indeed were plenty of homes going up but yeah, not enough "missing middle" homes, tho, I did see some townhomes
    Toronto made similar mistakes and we're really reeling from it with our housing problem. Not sure we can really build fast enough, but we're running out of options
    I really like Atlanta and I think you've got a lot of thing going on so I'm rooting for you guys!

    • @nathandaven
      @nathandaven  Před 4 měsíci +8

      Definently need a mix of developer investment (moderate density 5 over 1s, tods, etc) and individual infill (duplex comversions, adus, etc)! Not just in Atlanta but in the suburbs too

  • @JesusChrist-qs8sx
    @JesusChrist-qs8sx Před 3 měsíci +11

    On the other hand, Atlanta does have something that no other city has, and is perhaps one of the most viable solutions to the housing crisis: the Beltline.
    A simple walk/cycle trail has revitalized an entire low use industrial corridor and lead to the creation of thousands of homes - townhomes, apartments, dense subdivisions - along with tons of spaces for small businesses and walkable neighborhood town centers. Even in areas miles away from a MARTA stop.
    Imagine how many homes and small businesses you could create by recreating this kind of development, everywhere across the country. Imagine how much more enjoyable our cities would be if everyone had access to quiet trails that let them reach all kinds of neighborhoods and businesses

  • @train_blabber
    @train_blabber Před 4 měsíci +48

    "19,000 homes, not apartments, HOMES..." what a depressing comment

    • @nathandaven
      @nathandaven  Před 4 měsíci +2

      That clip was amusing to me, had to put it in!

  • @outdoorinwithzach
    @outdoorinwithzach Před 4 měsíci +120

    I grew up in Atlanta and moved to Portland over a decade ago. Whenever I go back to visit it is such a terrible experience. The traffic from everything being so carcentric is horrible. You can't walk anywhere as your destination is usually 10-40 miles away. And of course, the suburbs span as far as your eyes can see.

    • @nathandaven
      @nathandaven  Před 4 měsíci +12

      Beautiful… I havent been to portland but would like to one day, visited seattle and van last year and really enjoyed it

    • @zach.feldman27
      @zach.feldman27 Před 4 měsíci +14

      Totally agree with your points, but you can’t deny that Atlanta in terms of city amenities and growth is in an entirely different stratosphere today than 10/20/30 years ago. In 2000 Atlanta was a borderline top 20 city in the country in terms of influence, today its easily top 5 and (outside of traffic) living conditions here have gotten really nice and enjoyable in many parts of the metro that use to not be

    • @gargeluy3035
      @gargeluy3035 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Have u gotten rid of your car since moving to Portland?

    • @BoyTheBlack
      @BoyTheBlack Před 4 měsíci +5

      oh please...you live in Portland...that's just a huge town on/near the ocean...and you need a car there too...

    • @BoyTheBlack
      @BoyTheBlack Před 4 měsíci

      @@gargeluy3035 exactly...

  • @Rcmike1234
    @Rcmike1234 Před 4 měsíci +35

    I knew i saw ya filming when i biked by on Jackson st in that parking lot.

  • @shaylenwayne9284
    @shaylenwayne9284 Před 3 měsíci +9

    Its definitely been feeling like Atlanta is building new homes and what not for people coming to the city but not for the people that live here. At least I know I'm not crazy.

  • @Mikeluvsbasketball15
    @Mikeluvsbasketball15 Před 4 měsíci +26

    Thanks for raising awareness about the housing issues in Atlanta! We need to shift the narrative about the benefits of more dense, multi-family housing throughout the metro at all price points.

  • @TommyJonesProductions
    @TommyJonesProductions Před 4 měsíci +419

    We're not even close to full. We need to just stop catering to automobiles.

    • @WM-ln4dz
      @WM-ln4dz Před 4 měsíci +72

      It’s not that we need to stop catering to cars, but we need to start catering to pedestrians. We have 2 subway lines and 2 half lines. The failure to invest in MARTA/light rail is everything.

    • @TommyJonesProductions
      @TommyJonesProductions Před 4 měsíci +17

      @@WM-ln4dz - we shouldn't leave out bicycles.

    • @JJacobs803
      @JJacobs803 Před 4 měsíci +1

      umm all it takes is a drought to change that...

    • @TommyJonesProductions
      @TommyJonesProductions Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@JJacobs803 ??

    • @loanqc162
      @loanqc162 Před 4 měsíci +4

      @TommyJonesProductions You must be from another state and live in Downtown or Midtown to say that. Locals have family and work in areas with inadequate bus service.

  • @nathandaven
    @nathandaven  Před 4 měsíci +38

    Challenge: first person to name all the neighborhoods I filmed at gets their comment pinned 🤣Thanks for watching yall!

  • @CrisjoseCruz
    @CrisjoseCruz Před 4 měsíci +10

    Atlanta has a problem with low income housing mixed in with more expensive housing. It’s destroys the communities

    • @ninthydra9980
      @ninthydra9980 Před 2 měsíci +1

      This is facts lol, i live in a 7k sqft home 2 mins from the beltline in virginia highland, and am right next to a set of single story homes and across the street is an apartment complex hardly larger than the house alone. Really hope they can get their urban planning under control.

    • @ArturoDominguezMusic
      @ArturoDominguezMusic Před 18 dny

      I know, right? They should put some curtains just so that you don’t see them

    • @CrisjoseCruz
      @CrisjoseCruz Před 18 dny

      @@ArturoDominguezMusic curtains or looser property defense laws so you have recourse against crimes being committed against you.

  • @bb4251
    @bb4251 Před 2 měsíci +2

    they're building a new mixed use development (Medley of Johns Creek) - made by the creators of Avalon - right next to me in south Forsyth / north Fulton. The $1 billion dollar "The Gathering at South Forsyth" also has plans to open nearby too. Houses in the area are already around 700k+ - even 3 million now 😭

  • @omarimack194
    @omarimack194 Před 4 měsíci +39

    I’m from NYC. Driving in Atlanta is like a vacation. 😂😂

    • @0shadowgrace0
      @0shadowgrace0 Před 3 měsíci

      no buddy, you're from NYC you don't live here. You don't have a clue.

    • @rigid_
      @rigid_ Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@0shadowgrace0 i’m from New York and live in Metro Atlanta and drive down 20, 75 and 85 every single day New York is definitely worse.

    • @0shadowgrace0
      @0shadowgrace0 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@rigid_ 8 million people live in new york. 500,000 people live in Atlanta. Atlanta. is. worse.

    • @omarimack194
      @omarimack194 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@0shadowgrace0 I live in the ATL area now. Very easy vs back home.

  • @BryantBaudelaire
    @BryantBaudelaire Před 4 měsíci +4

    I’m from Nashville, Tennessee and it is very large but is also low density so it literally tells the same story as Atlanta and Nashville is growing very rapidly and will never stop.

  • @tibbers3755
    @tibbers3755 Před 4 měsíci +26

    Everyone whines about atlanta traffic while atlanta has aa metro system that makes me, a guy from Maryland, jealous. Add heavy rail commuter, to surrounding counties and savannah, increase marta train frequency and maybe a line or two, and they might be cooking with a system that rivals Washington DC

    • @JoelIvoryJohnson
      @JoelIvoryJohnson Před 3 měsíci +3

      Discussions on expanding the rail system have been going on for the past 40 years to no effect. There was a discussion on the rail system using some of the tracks used for freight trains, but the freight train company objected. Present discussion is on express busses. Though, unlike rail, express buses are subject to traffic conditions.

    • @sereysothe.a
      @sereysothe.a Před 3 měsíci +1

      marta is great if you live near a station and where you're going to is near a station, which is pretty rare
      honestly I've had bad experiences with marta buses. like buses showing up 25 minutes late from the scheduled times... but it was free during covid which was great

    • @JoelIvoryJohnson
      @JoelIvoryJohnson Před 3 měsíci

      I tried Marta pre-pandemic. Hated it. Sometimes, the train would make everyone get off. I generally never knew why, though one time it was because a drunk man went incontinent in both ways possible, making the train a biohazard. A train near the airport derailed and we had several weeks of single tracking until they got that fixed. My place of work was a mile from the station. Toting two laptops and other equipment that mile was just plain cumbersome. - @sereysothe.a

  • @anonym0usplatypus
    @anonym0usplatypus Před 4 měsíci +11

    Wonderful video !! I'm really passionate about updating Atlanta's zoning laws, and I really hope that we can densify in the next few decades. It would be wonderful to add more multifamily housing, especially to neighborhoods like Homepark and the garden district. What should we do about people who already live in the suburbs?

    • @nathandaven
      @nathandaven  Před 4 měsíci +5

      Ideally we could upzone a bit in the burbs too. My master plan: some bus lines to subdivisions, fill in power center parking lots with mixed use, and reformat those subdivision parks/pools/court locations that are in every neighborhood to have a few little businesses like coffee shop, corner store, restaurant. Also connect culdesacs with walking paths, it would be nice! I grew up in Cobb though so I'm very aware how impossible any of that is hahahaha
      Realistically, places like Alpharetta, Duluth, etc are doing a good job of creating nice town centers. We need more of it across the metro.

  • @AbeyantHero
    @AbeyantHero Před 3 měsíci +4

    Been to and filmed in so many abandoned schools, lots or warehouses that could easily be reformed into affordable houses & offer walkable daily amenities.

  • @GaelissFelin
    @GaelissFelin Před 4 měsíci +7

    you picked perfect shots for this video. the gray rich-people boxes behind you as you were talking abt gentrification made me laugh.

    • @nathandaven
      @nathandaven  Před 4 měsíci +1

      😆 that one was a bit on the nose, forclosed old house next to an under construction construction cube home hahaha. Thanks for watching!

  • @dbclass2969
    @dbclass2969 Před 4 měsíci +9

    There’s so much land on the southside that’s just sitting there empty, especially around the MARTA line. I wonder if it’s speculation. The longer these people sit on this land, the more it’s worth.

    • @kennixox262
      @kennixox262 Před 4 měsíci +5

      People with money want to live north of I-20.

    • @dbclass2969
      @dbclass2969 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@kennixox262This isn’t true at all. Glenwood Park home values are over a million. Grant Park is also expensive. East Atlanta, Ormewood Park, Summerhill, Peoplestown, Chosewood Park, and Boulevard Heights are also booming with construction. It’s only SW Atlanta that isn’t keeping up.

    • @kennixox262
      @kennixox262 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@dbclass2969 Yes, but you are still ITP. However, saying that, I would never live south of I-20. Probably in Brookhaven, just east of the Fulton County line - east of Peachtree Dunwoody Road around the country club, oh wait, I did that then moved 2000 miles west.

    • @archivalfootage1
      @archivalfootage1 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@dbclass2969because southwest Atlanta is the old Atlanta black elite. You have to be from Atlanta to understand that southwest Atlanta is trying to maintain that. The last few mayors are from south west. Think Keisha lance bottoms and Shirley Franklin.

    • @KCH55
      @KCH55 Před 4 měsíci

      Yes, I've been wondering about certain things about South Atlanta.
      South Atlanta and its suburban areas are less populated.
      Most of the population is in the northern region, particularly the Northeast.
      I was watching a wendover production, and there is more Dollar generals in South Atlanta, but not enough groceries.

  • @frankie4467
    @frankie4467 Před 4 měsíci +11

    Have you ever looked into how Montreal handled the missing middle problem. I've visited Montreal and really liked the layout. I've always wondered if we can do too or will racism get in the way.

    • @nathandaven
      @nathandaven  Před 4 měsíci +4

      Montreal's high on my list! They're famous for specifically not having a missing middle lmao. I've only been to Vancouver in Canada, really enjoyed it!

  • @princessjellyfish98
    @princessjellyfish98 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I moved here in 2016 for school, and the difference in rent between then and now is astronomical. A decade ago, it wasn't impossible to find a studio or 1br in midtown for around $1k a month. Now it's a miracle to find a unit in that same area for $1.5k. Most people's incomes have not risen enough to cover that $500+ increase. And those are the most walkable areas of the city! With the best transit access! The only transit-accessible housing is being held for ransom, and is only available to people with 6 or 7 figure incomes who can afford to drive anyways. Not only are the zoning codes whack, racist, and weighted towards cars, the areas that escaped that whack zoning are now becoming the most desirable, and the people who need them most are being priced out. Students trying to access the schools, low and middle income workers who keep the city afloat, people who need access to the pre-existing transit network. Not to mention the recent crackdown on short term rentals in those same neighborhoods, which were making the problem even worse. I'm so glad you're covering this because there are so many parts of this city that are so wonderful to live in! And they're being gatekept and segregated just like the suburbs used to be. It's such a shame. Hopefully these zoning reforms go through so the huge private equity landlords can't keep hoarding the limited pre-existing, desirably zoned areas.

  • @firebolt113
    @firebolt113 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Thank you for making these videos! I love hearing this kind of urbanist news for my city ❤

  • @slowlydistancing
    @slowlydistancing Před 4 měsíci +8

    wow ! I live super close to Argonne, you filmed a lot in the Garden District, to think you were filming right under my nose, we gotta plan a coffee meet up soon

    • @nathandaven
      @nathandaven  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Hahaha nice thats a great spot! Yes Im down!

  • @kiwiboy2328
    @kiwiboy2328 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Fire intro beat, very fitting for a video on Atlanta 👌

  • @theeightoclock
    @theeightoclock Před 3 měsíci +3

    Grew up there. Can’t move back until at least some part is walkable. Chicago is great until then, walk everyday everywhere. 25 hours a week in a car is a prison

  • @ericew576
    @ericew576 Před 4 měsíci +8

    NYC is much denser and our prices are still high.
    We need a federal push for dense growth across the country to satiate demand, if supply solutions are the answer.

    • @jasonschwartz8507
      @jasonschwartz8507 Před 4 měsíci +14

      Per capita NYC and the NYC metro area have built hardly any housing in the last 1/2 century. There is simply not enough homes built to match the job growth. Cities and metro areas that build the most to meet the job growth are the most affordable.

    • @nathandaven
      @nathandaven  Před 4 měsíci +12

      NYC is a whole different scale versus most of US cities. But as said above ^ NYC doesnt build enough housing either. Which means yes, we should just upzone long island😆

    • @ericew576
      @ericew576 Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@nathandaven agreed! NYC jurisdiction should also follow, they should be a new borough
      I don’t think along Island would like that too much

    • @NamelessProducts
      @NamelessProducts Před 4 měsíci +4

      Much of nyc is suppressing growth as well. Queens downzoned in 2008.
      Manhattan wants to grow into the surrounding Burroughs but they won’t allow it.

    • @NamelessProducts
      @NamelessProducts Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@nathandaventwo things I need you to acknowledge.
      1.) Rent control is bad. Nearly all urban economists have panned it as effective policy. It disincentivizes housing construction and incentivizes evictions.
      2.) Requiring builders to “sell it for less” by having a certain percentage of them sold below market reduces incentives to build more housing. We need to treat builders like we treat farmers. We subsidize the hell out of them

  • @jwpropertybrothers5198
    @jwpropertybrothers5198 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I love your videos. Im from Augusta, and I think about this every time I visit Atlanta.
    Keep em coming!

  • @baddriversofcolga
    @baddriversofcolga Před 4 měsíci +28

    The irony of people saying "We full" when Atlanta is one of the least dense big cities in the world...they need to add "of cars" to that statement. Anyway, the Cybertruck dig at Austin is funny because my brother used to live there (now he's living in Atlanta) and he's visiting there right now and he was telling me how many Cybertrucks he was seeing...I told him it was a good thing he moved away. :P

    • @nathandaven
      @nathandaven  Před 4 měsíci +2

      I wish I could unsee the cybertrucks

    • @chickenpasta7359
      @chickenpasta7359 Před 4 měsíci +1

      The only people saying “we full” are definitely out of towners themselves lol. Having more people in your city means more economic growth and opportunities, we just need to figure out how to get housing under control and massively overhaul our public transit

    • @ab8817
      @ab8817 Před 3 měsíci

      @@nathandaven when you build stuff like PCM and the Beltline - those are the type of people you are attracting. Cybertruck owners. Atlanta has becomed Austinized. Thinking it is going to resemble NYC with these little pet projects (that really are just tourist attractions, they aren't pushing urbanism or affordability, they are revenue generators and portfolio stuffing for VC companies, developers) is extremely naive. It has become a theme park for the rich. People that work at businesses along the Beltline cant afford to live anywhere near it.

  • @a.taylor8294
    @a.taylor8294 Před 4 měsíci +17

    When I moved down there for grad school, it was ridiculous to me as a woman from Philly how jammed the hwys were when they had less lanes than most large cities in the Northeast. One reason I didn't plan on staying there when I saw you needed a car to get most places.

    • @nathandaven
      @nathandaven  Před 4 měsíci +6

      it's brutal! I will say its totally doable car free if you live and work in the same neighborhood, on marta lines or frequent busses, or willing to bike/ebike, it just takes some planning. But having grown up in the burbs here, not having a car makes it extremely difficult to visit family, friends, or go out since not everyone shares your alternate reality 😆

    • @lisasmith5422
      @lisasmith5422 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@nathandaven
      white people can't afford housing either - maybe you should just stick to planning & lay off the division...

    • @willp.8120
      @willp.8120 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Atlanta has far more lanes than any northeastern city. Philly's number of freeway lanes is pathetic.

    • @a.taylor8294
      @a.taylor8294 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@willp.8120, exactly and # of freeway lanes in nothing to brag about. It's not a standard for measuring cities Philly's got enough lanes to get people around.

  • @reverietapes
    @reverietapes Před 4 měsíci +6

    As someone from Memphis and a film and city enthusiast, I've always admired Atlanta as a city i want to live in despite people saying "We full". I've always seen it as potential to be a walkable and transit oriented city. It's just an amazing city to me and there's nothing else I love more.

  • @mediochreeuchre8391
    @mediochreeuchre8391 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Great video. I haven't lived in Atlanta for ten years, so it was a lot of fun to see some of the old sights. (I knew that apartment building on Argonne looked familiar along with several other locations.) Thanks for fighting the good fight.

    • @nathandaven
      @nathandaven  Před 4 měsíci

      Some areas are completely unrecognizable! thanks for watching

  • @mikecooper1615
    @mikecooper1615 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Your zoning examples colors match simcity, so this video checks out.

  • @adamrmoss
    @adamrmoss Před 3 měsíci +2

    I was born in Atlanta in 1978. The current population of the metro area is four times what it was then.

  • @MrBaskins2010
    @MrBaskins2010 Před 4 měsíci +5

    yet another solid video, love the dunks

  • @WM-ln4dz
    @WM-ln4dz Před 4 měsíci +2

    I live in a Progress Residential owned home - they bought it for $340K about a year and a half ago, when it last transacted for $124k in 2000. A whopping ~1100 square foot 40 year old home - I don't understand how the economics of these work. To their credit, I will say they actually are easier to work with than any apartment landlord I've lived in.

  • @archivalfootage1
    @archivalfootage1 Před 4 měsíci +27

    I understand what your saying but the reason the we full sentiment exists is because old black Atlanta is tired of seeing their city which white Atlantans abandoned due to their own racism be changed into something unrecognizable. As a native Atlantan I remember clearly when neighborhoods such as Grant park and even down to kirkwood were majority black and now these neighborhoods are completely different filled with people who kicked the original residents out. So understand the We full sentiment is 1000 justified. When townhomes on Bankhead highway are selling for 700k we have a problem.

    • @willp.8120
      @willp.8120 Před 4 měsíci +6

      Grant Park was a white neighborhood, but even when it changed to majority black, there was still a significant white population. It is still mixed but is now majority white. So the original residents argument is moot since it was a white neighborhood before any black people moved there.

    • @jonathanmosley9867
      @jonathanmosley9867 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Native Americans lived there first

    • @maximilianotorres7130
      @maximilianotorres7130 Před 3 měsíci +4

      🤷‍♂️ a lot of the gentrified neighborhoods were is such horrible state, Idk how it could have been fixed without gentrification

    • @dvderek
      @dvderek Před 2 měsíci

      This happens to every city at some point. You can’t impose restrictions on people wanting to move somewhere, and no one mentions how many black people move here every year. Theyre telling them not to come too

  • @malikmcgowan231
    @malikmcgowan231 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Really great video as I’m reading Red Hot City! I’m only 23 and love it here but hopefully I can buy a house one day

    • @nathandaven
      @nathandaven  Před 4 měsíci +1

      hell yeah! I still need to read through Red Hot City but I have referenced parts of it several times

  • @atlanta78922
    @atlanta78922 Před 4 měsíci +7

    wake up babe new n daddyport video just dropped and he filmed on our street

  • @L3GITKIDZ
    @L3GITKIDZ Před 4 měsíci +5

    Omg my fave content creator dropped another vid

    • @nathandaven
      @nathandaven  Před 4 měsíci +1

      bro why'd you upload fortnite clips a month ago...

  • @guillerminamuller5478
    @guillerminamuller5478 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Hey Nathan, I loved the video. So informative. Just one small suggestion if I may is that memes, images or graphs are a little longer on the screen so they can be read. Hope you don’t take it bad :)

  • @timothyreal
    @timothyreal Před 4 měsíci +3

    Great video! Thanks for talking about this important issue.

  • @nic23lond23
    @nic23lond23 Před 2 měsíci

    Being born and raised on a denser city... Atlanta have huge potential to densify... those 5 over one are actually amazing, but being condos, not apartments. Being able to walk places and use transit is great... BRTs are really an amazing option to support subways. Never thought I would say this, but my developing country city is ages ahead in urban planning. Back in the 80's we started shifting from single families to 5 over ones, which created amazing neighborhoods, today are one of the most sought after in the city. I believe the urban plan for Bogota approved in 2000 (POT 2000) is easily one of the best ones in the world, it introduced the BRT and made huge changes in zoning and land use... the mastermind behind it was Enrique Penalosa kinda a big deal in urban planning world wide.

  • @blakeaschultz3235
    @blakeaschultz3235 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Commenting now.. coming back to watch shortly 😂

  • @cborch555
    @cborch555 Před 2 měsíci

    Currently living with 4 other people in Stone Mountain just so we can have a chance of some of our money staying in our pockets. Our house is owned by an offshore corporation. They ruined this nice house with shitty "modern" remodeling which resulted in the cheapest appliances on the market, rotting deckboards with a coat of paint on them, paint over the tiles and bath tubs in every bathroom, and leaky windows. I loved Atlanta. I wanted to stay here. I'm having to reassess now.

  • @ttopero
    @ttopero Před 4 měsíci +4

    I appreciate the growth of the quality & diversity of content on your channel. Keep up the great work!
    One discontinuity I’d like to see addressed is the difference between the small multi unit that would be an incremental increase in a typical SFH neighborhood, where financing is much easier to come by, typically built, owned & managed by local people, and keeps the wealth in the area longer versus the corporate development of large parcel assemblages that are way out of scale & context of the neighborhood they’re imposing upon, requires outside/foreign money, ownership & management, while extracting wealth away from the community immediately.
    Talking with residents about how they perceive & feel about the difference between the small multi unit of missing middle versus the goliaths of midrise structures, including the developers who would & could build the neighborhood scale multi unit would be a major contribution to the urbanism CZcams discussion!

    • @nathandaven
      @nathandaven  Před 4 měsíci +1

      I do want to add in interviews at some point to the videos as I broaden out into new topics, but definitely a bit scared to 🤣 IRL I'm a huge hermit these days.. soon though I'll be brave! thanks for watching!

    • @ttopero
      @ttopero Před 4 měsíci

      @@nathandaven consider enrolling other urbanists to do the interview while you record. I’m sure there are others who’d love to participate without having to do the production from start to finish!

  • @user-uo7fw5bo1o
    @user-uo7fw5bo1o Před 4 měsíci +8

    Excellent presentation! A fact I read elsewhere: in geographic area the Atlanta metro is as big as Massachusetts! 😮 Unlike Massachusetts it's all incredibly wasteful suburban sprawl. 😠

    • @maroon9273
      @maroon9273 Před 4 měsíci

      Boston night turned into Atlanta if the city keeps on restricting height of buildings.

  • @atlabama
    @atlabama Před 4 měsíci +5

    Where can I get a copy of that book?

    • @nathandaven
      @nathandaven  Před 4 měsíci +4

      I believe its only available to buy in person, at Posman Books in Ponce City Market. But you can also read it online for free at 72b006f2.flowpaper.com/ACDSecondPrintFINAL180820/#page=1

    • @milliedragon4418
      @milliedragon4418 Před 4 měsíci +3

      I know that that book is so awesome looking

  • @ianperry9598
    @ianperry9598 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Isnt GDOT also supposed to be widening 285? (i forget exactly where but i think its on the northside) I feel like state DOTs are just never going to change either and extenuating the "We full" narrative

  • @flyingdutchman2065
    @flyingdutchman2065 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Why are your memes so quick 😭

  • @codygeorge1786
    @codygeorge1786 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Edgewood station TOD is embarrassing. Two giant parking decks, one at 25% capacity, with more to come.

    • @nathandaven
      @nathandaven  Před 4 měsíci

      Spoke is decent and only two floors underground, but yeah theres a ton on the other side, plus theyve just finished a whole another deck for the pie factory site 🤷‍♂️ is what it is..

  • @hunnerrichau6799
    @hunnerrichau6799 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Ohhh brother. How can you over-simplify it to ‘supply n demand’ when corporations are buyin all existing adequate, surplus housing?

  • @lapotencia25
    @lapotencia25 Před 2 měsíci

    Not the FIGO food truck in Little Five Points, that's my go to for pasta😂

  • @FlyiDCG
    @FlyiDCG Před 4 měsíci +3

    Love watching your content. Nathan you gotta do a video of the top 5 TOD Marta stations. Now that 4 more stations are coming near beltline. Which of the current stations are the best to go to??

    • @nathandaven
      @nathandaven  Před 4 měsíci +4

      Well honestly, the best "TOD" MARTA stations are the ones at historically walkable locations! So Fivepoints/Peachtree center, Midtown/Arts Center, and Decatur are all great places you can just get out and explore. Edgewood/Candler TOD is decent but honestly the TOD isn't really a destination unless you like expensive sandwiches, better to walk over to L5P or the Candler Park strip. Linbergh is historically the first TOD, and is great if you need a big box store as every single one is there. I think the Indian Creek TOD coming up is going to be a much more anditious TOD project though. thanks for watching!

  • @snekposts
    @snekposts Před 4 měsíci +3

    great, educational video, thanks for sharing :D

  • @Annihilated481
    @Annihilated481 Před měsícem

    Georgia needs another major metropolitan area really badly. We're a BIG state, so we can't have home values determined by how close to Atlanta they are.

  • @JJacobs803
    @JJacobs803 Před 4 měsíci +1

    wanna know a interesting fact, Atlanta suburbs have pushed so far back, its only 1hr and 40mins from the south Carolina border... shocking..

  • @HarrySJohnson
    @HarrySJohnson Před 3 měsíci

    There ought to be a limit on the percentage of single family homes that can be held for investment and rented out.

  • @ShortSnoph
    @ShortSnoph Před 3 měsíci

    Houses are simply too large and faux-luxury. As a developer, there is a flat cost on setting foundation, plumbing, etc. when maximizing profits, this means larger, luxurious, and more expensive homes/apartments. Causing housing segregation, rent increase, congestion, and more ecological scalping. Not to mention this mass development "heats up" the city, as a large amount of shade/water retention is lost when mass developing - There is still no good standard to ecology in new development, there is much waste in the clean-slate approach. I wish developers could slow down, and would consider long-term consequences on community and livability.

  • @GankTown
    @GankTown Před 4 měsíci +1

    I live here too bro, would love to link and help film or whatever you need with the content

  • @iphner43
    @iphner43 Před 4 měsíci

    fantastic video, nathan! a refreshingly non-cynical take on atlanta's housing and urban design / zoning problems!

  • @alexlowe2054
    @alexlowe2054 Před 2 měsíci

    Remember how speculative housing prices ended up being one of the largest contributors to the 2008 crash? Back then it was called "home flipping", and a 2009 Now York Times article showed that more than half the "bad mortgages" banks handed out weren't bought as homes, they were bought as investments. It turns out, when you live in a house, you generally don't like being evicted, so you do whatever it takes to keep paying your home payment. Things like spending half your income on housing, destroying your ability to contribute to the broader economy, leading to the 2008 recession. But the investors don't act like regular consumers. When they realize they're going to be losing money during a crash, or they're already losing money on their investments, they all panic and try to sell everything as fast as they can, contributing to the bubble finally popping.
    The recession is here. Average consumers are already feeling the squeeze. The pandemic stimulus is a distant memory. Housing unaffordability is at 2007 levels, while consumer debt is at record levels again. Repo rates are on the rise, and the price of food has doubled in the last 10 years. People look at the stock market and see it at record highs, and claim there can't be a recession, but they forget that the stock market made all-time highs in late 2007, right before The S&P dropped 50% in a single year. The start date for a recession is measured by things like stock markets suddenly going down for an extended period of time. So it's silly to say that a recession can't happen when literally the only part of the market that's doing well is the stock market. Both people and businesses are running out of money to throw at the stock market. Once desperate people start reaching into their retirement funds, huge investment funds will suddenly change from buying to selling, leading to the stock market going down. The stock market is the last flimsy leg the economy still has, so once it gives out, that's when an "official" recession will start.
    Atlanta home prices can't possibly stay this high for much longer. Yes, there are broader problems with housing affordability, but when I know multiple people moving farther away from the city center, I have to ask, who's buying these overpriced homes? There's almost no one left who can afford Atlanta's housing except investors, and they buy using credit just like we do. Soon, they'll run out of cash since banks are already tighten lending, meaning they'll have to start selling their homes or renting them out in order to keep their lights on. Either way, that's a massive injection of supply into the market.
    Yes, the broader decade long trends of supply and demand are still there, which will eventually drive up prices. That's why the investors are all tripping over themselves to buy homes in Atlanta. They know that in 30 years, they'll be far more valuable.
    However, that ignores the shorter term supply and demand trends. Investors have pushed out regular home buyers, and investors are far more fragile and weak in bad economies. They don't have to live in the homes they buy, so they can sell hundreds or thousands of homes, declare bankruptcy, and walk away. Regular home owners don't typically sell their home because the economy got bad, and if they do, they have to buy another one. That means regular home owners don't change supply and demand based on how well the economy is doing. Investors are the opposite. When the economy is good, they have money to invest, creating massive demand spikes. But then when the economy slows down, they sell, creating a temporary glut of supply, while removing their demand from the market. It's a double effect change when investors enter or leave the market, which creates a huge swing in prices either direction.
    Home investors are foolish if they think there's not a massive drop in home prices coming soon. Over a year ago, Redfin and Zillow both closed their program to buy "undervalued" homes, because they ran the numbers, and realized home owners simply weren't buying homes at the prices other investors were. Yes, those programs were plagued by bad practices like buying homes without pricing in necessary repairs, but that only meant they failed sooner than the other investment companies. None of that changes the economic fundamentals, that regular home owners have been priced out of the market. Practically every person I talk to is frustrated because housing is completely out of their reach. Once investors realize they can't sell their inflated homes to other investors, and one of those firms is forced to finally sell homes at a price regular people can afford, prices will drop like a rock.
    Within a year, we'll see the official start of the recession. That will be the start of a multi-year decline in housing prices. Soon, a single one of those investors will declare bankruptcy and have a fire sale on their inventory. Once a single one of those investment firms suddenly has to start panic selling, that will drive housing prices down suddenly and rapidly. However, homes are low liquidity, so it'll take years for housing prices to finally bottom. It was around 2011 before home prices bottomed from the 2006 peaks, so expect a ~5 year decline.
    I'm paying attention to all of this stuff, because I live in Atlanta, and it would be really nice to own a home. I'm tired of having to constantly move apartments. I want somewhere to settle down, so I'm carefully watching housing prices and paying attention to the cycles that drive prices. Once homes finally decline and hit their lowest prices around 2026-2028, I'll be in the market, buying a house. Because in the long term, housing prices can only go up from here. Your thesis around long term trends will eventually drive prices up. But the shorter term economic trends will dominate the next few years, so it's going to be a good time to enter the market. That is, if the recession hasn't already destroyed your ability to buy in a few years. One bad layoff and suddenly that planning goes out the window. Which is why it's important to be Scrooge Mc. Duck levels of frugal right now, so you're prepared to weather the incoming storm, and still have money left over afterwards to jump into the housing market when prices are at their lowest. By the time the average person recovers economically from this recession, housing prices will be high again.
    The alternative economic theory is that we aren't going to have a recession, but instead we'll have some combination of stagflation, massive inflation, or a serious depression, and all this planning goes out the window because the economy is so unimaginably broken that everyone suffers regardless of how prepared you are.

  • @TimothyBrown2010
    @TimothyBrown2010 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I definitely would love to see serious moves of rezoning parts of the city for more multifamily housing and missing middle and mid rise housing but ultimately at the same time transit investment needs to be also a priority for Atlanta's growth as well and that means more expansion of MARTAs current rail system into the outer counties and the building of more lines to best service the metro area.
    Also where can i get a copy of that book??? 10:50

  • @lisasmith5422
    @lisasmith5422 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Nathan,
    I like this type of channel - city planning & geography etc & how these do/don't create safe, happy places to live ...
    suggestion - could you speak a bit more slowly - great info, very detailed - which I appreciate - but, I had to keep listening over & over to understand it all - because the pace was just too fast for me - thanks...

  • @sereysothe.a
    @sereysothe.a Před 3 měsíci +1

    love your videos man. you put serious work into these and give some great insight without it being sensationalized
    I grew up in atl metro and just graduated from emory a few weeks ago so now I'm leaving the city, but every video of yours I'm learning more about this place!

  • @neilboulton9813
    @neilboulton9813 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Urban sprawl, is definately the USAs main contribution to urban planning. I only wish we had ignored your other one obsession awful retail parks with free parking, as along with online shopping (thanks Amazon) it has completely hollowed out the shopping experience in many UK towns and cities.

  • @alphonse_2245
    @alphonse_2245 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Wonderful video.

  • @zengseng1234
    @zengseng1234 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Please leave your little comics/memes on the screen a little longer so I have time to pause and look at them 😩

  • @edc1266
    @edc1266 Před 4 měsíci

    My family wanted/needed to own a home (affordable in suburbs) while job opportunities happen to be more city centric. I feel like this is the reason why most people live this way and I rarely hear it being discussed. A new apartment building in downtown won’t look like a valid option for most people. It would cost more and all that money just go towards the landlords pocket.

  • @NDUWUISI
    @NDUWUISI Před 3 měsíci

    The suburbs need comprehensive planning and density too big time. I grew up in a working class suburb and that lack of infrastructure limits economic opportunity and basic quality of life

  • @canadianbird1185
    @canadianbird1185 Před 3 měsíci

    It's crazy to think for people just entering workforce....expecting to buy a house. Paying over 400k for decades are just insane.

  • @doclorianrin7543
    @doclorianrin7543 Před 3 měsíci

    Awesome video. I talk about the impact of the 96 olympics to atlanta all the time and how it changed everything. They pushed all the homeless people out and literally put up big walls so tourists wouldn't see the rest while visiting for the events.

  • @MrGrimlocke
    @MrGrimlocke Před 3 měsíci +1

    This channel is really good. I just subscribed even though I don't plan on moving to Atlanta lol

  • @maitaniyama
    @maitaniyama Před 3 měsíci

    Surprised you didn’t talk about The Stitch project. Basically, it would cover up the downtown section of I75/85 and reattach Midtown and Downtown. More land to use for affordable housing, park space, and MARTA access. With the added bonus of not having to deal with NIMBYs in Ansley and Morningside

  • @miloarty3712
    @miloarty3712 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Yes Atlanta's full... of potential if we add more heavy, light, regional, and intercity rail. And bike lanes. And sidewalks. And...

  • @declineofthewest.
    @declineofthewest. Před 3 měsíci

    We need a moratorium on apartment buildings, condos and multi family dwellings.

  • @teresadavenport8094
    @teresadavenport8094 Před 3 měsíci

    Probably your best video. Awesome job

  • @TheGilzam
    @TheGilzam Před 3 měsíci

    Right near my house, theyre building 2 different, dense apartment complexes, one of which will be designated to affordable housing. Maybe this overlaps with the fact that it is a block away from a Marta station? Itd be fun to be walking distance from shops and bars, but I really need my own yard. I have rural preferences, but I enjoy and need the city for work lol. Im sure this makes me part of the problem

  • @HyperBart
    @HyperBart Před 3 měsíci

    Nathan must be familiar with the Strong Towns channel and perhaps even Not Just Bikes. I'm from the Netherlands, living in ATL for 18 months... The suburban sprawl, zoning laws, car centric city design, etc has continued to fascinate me.

  • @kymistry2
    @kymistry2 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Not enough lanes on the highway and local roads..

  • @KCH55
    @KCH55 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Yippee a video!

  • @reecewentworth5636
    @reecewentworth5636 Před 4 měsíci +2

    IF you could make 1 big change to ATL what would it be ?

    • @scpatl4now
      @scpatl4now Před 4 měsíci +5

      More rail transit that goes to Cobb and Gwinnett as well as Emory

    • @nathandaven
      @nathandaven  Před 4 měsíci +5

      Remove ITP interstates/connector & reconnect streets for new housing 😆 or regional rail..

    • @blast4me754
      @blast4me754 Před 2 měsíci

      Ghetto culture.

  • @netdragon256
    @netdragon256 Před měsícem

    The idea of transit radiating out from Atlanta is flawed. It's for city boosters but most of the metro population is in the North metro and needs transit between the Northern suburbs. Top-end 285 HOT lanes will start to offer this.

  • @edwardtwiggs4226
    @edwardtwiggs4226 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Where did you find the info about the city owned vacant lots? I looked in zoning 2.0 and Atl City Design and didnt see anything. I would like to purchase land to build affordable housing. Thanks for the video, well done!

  • @JohnSmith-dk4qe
    @JohnSmith-dk4qe Před 4 měsíci +5

    Brilliant! You are an astounding and organized communicator. YOU should be teaching in a university

    • @nathandaven
      @nathandaven  Před 4 měsíci

      Ahh very nice of you! Thanks for watching

  • @SeaBassTian
    @SeaBassTian Před 4 měsíci +1

    Amazingly researched vid! I visited Midtown in February and saw quite a bit of new construction in progress all over town. Some of the buildings seemed massive. What's the data for incoming residents? How many people are migrating to Atlanta every year?

    • @nathandaven
      @nathandaven  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Thanks for watching! Atlanta Regional Commission is a good resource for this they track population trends and manage predictions. atlantaregional.org/what-we-do/research-and-data/atlanta-region-population-estimates/

  • @Msimmo35786
    @Msimmo35786 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Great and informative video!!

  • @andrewstallings6548
    @andrewstallings6548 Před 3 měsíci

    100% disabled combat veteran and I can’t afford a home here. It’s so demoralizing.

  • @edwinpaul1541
    @edwinpaul1541 Před 3 měsíci

    What do you mean "never used parking lot"? I use that one every time I go to little 5. It's super close to the vortex, and theirs is usually packed on the weekends.

  • @zedlyfe
    @zedlyfe Před 4 měsíci +1

    Amazing content, as always. I don't live in ATL (have family there though). Is the upcoming zoning reforms something that will be a referendum or is it just being discussed by elected officials?

    • @nathandaven
      @nathandaven  Před 4 měsíci +3

      Thank you! It is upcoming legislation, that will begin drafting after the CDP for Plan A is done this summer. It was put on hold until the design plan is complete. Obviously there's a lot of parties involved so I'm sure that'll get pushed back further cuz Atlanta lol. This video took a lot longer than I thought, I was hoping to get ahead of the workshopping a little but took way longer than I planned, I'm just one guy 🤣

  • @MrTaterlater
    @MrTaterlater Před 3 měsíci

    Someone get this man a shirt without holes

  • @alirohani2687
    @alirohani2687 Před 2 měsíci

    I subscribed after the cyber truck comment 🤣

  • @leifashley
    @leifashley Před měsícem

    How about finding for some police to actually enforce the law? We moved out.

  • @Slaythehippies
    @Slaythehippies Před 4 měsíci

    These corporations and institutional investors need to be stopped in their tracks and stripped of their power. The monopoly they have over the housing market is screwing everyone who isn't an investor, and it's evil at it's core.

  • @adamcheklat7387
    @adamcheklat7387 Před 2 měsíci

    Sounds like Atlanta needs a king-sized overhaul.

  • @redcomic619
    @redcomic619 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Atlanta is the most overrated city I’ve ever been to. I would move back to New York tomorrow if I could.

  • @Noah-jx8qw
    @Noah-jx8qw Před 4 měsíci +2

    Great Video!

  • @ZhariyaAleice
    @ZhariyaAleice Před 4 měsíci +3

    it blows my mind that you dont have more subscribers! but yes as a person who moved to atl last year for grad school despite being told its full, there are too many people 🥲