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[HD] British Rail Class 70 Locomotives for Export on the NS PITL
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- čas přidán 12. 12. 2013
- Fresh from the General Electric Locomotive Plant in Erie, PA these British Rail Class 70s are going to their owners, Colas Rail Freight, in the UK.
Seen at Duncannon Station on 13-DEC-2013 on the Norfolk Southern Pittsburgh Line in Pennsylvania.
Awesome Video, glad to see Colas Rail expanding, can't wait to see this in the UK
I always wondered how 'big' US/Canadian locos were compared to UK ones. Guess this video goes some way to answering that.
taffboyslim why are those 70s on trucks, british locos are the same guage as american ones
I think It's because the couplers are slightly different!
@@jamesbradford4550 Probably to avoid the problem they had with the 66 deliveries. They had to give the 66s temporary knuckles. Or insert a buffer car. Rather than go though that agian they probably said. "just put those two 70s on flat cars.
Beautiful locos those colas/freightliner class 70’s
Wow puts the loading gauge into perspective
thanks for posting this video, really looks good in Colas livery, more shots of our new Class 70s if you spot them again please. Feel like jumping on a plane ASAP.
Ooooo. That was a surprise. Well captured sir.
Thank you very much, I appreciate the kind words. It certainly was a surprise for me that day since we were actually supposed to see export locomotives for Liberia. However as it turned out they were re-routed down a different line; had no complaints about getting to see these, though!
--David
Great Video, Great Catch too. Its not unusual to see a couple of these Class 70s resting at Ipswich in Freightliner colours
Interesing comparison with the height of the 70s on wagons and still appearing to be the same height as the US loco..
HOLY COW EPIC STUFF
Thanks for sharing, nice to see what we are getting, just hope these do not catch fire like the first batch of 70's
It's my pleasure, I love "catching" trains for export; not stuff I see too often.
One can certainly hope! Forgive my ignorance about Class 70's, but do they know what caused the fires? GE locomotives here sometimes catch fire due to a turbo charger failure, so I'm curious if that's the same issue the first ones had.
--David
Apparently the fires are related to sub-standard fuel injector seals which don't meet the required pressure specification. Basically someone within engine design screwed up!
And the cube shaped things on the side of the body are revised air intakes; cooling system probably wasn’t up to scratch and that won’t have helped!
It's cool to see a British locomotive next to an american locomotive to see the size comparison
they landed at Liverpool last week. I saw them when I caught the ferry back from Dublin Monday night
Should have petrol bombed them
Wow. US locos make the UK locos look like models
These locos would be UK bound, just about every other country's railways use automatic coupling unlike British railways that are back in the 1950s. Do they still use vacuum brakes?
Great Vid. Cheers for sharing.
Thank you very much! I appreciate the support.
--David
Freightliner in the UK has now been purchased by the Genesee & Wyoming railroad here in the US. So the locomotives and the railroad itself are mostly all American controlled and built.
Keil Gilby GE built these for export to the UK. GE also has built some other European locomotives as well though. Not sure if these two locomotives in particular went to the UK for sure though. They were built here in the US is all that I know for sure. The locomotives are rather small, so I just assumed the UK. Although European trains in general are a smaller loading guage. :\
Keil Gilby Ah! Ok. Thought so. I knew Europe's loading gauge was larger than the UK's, but still smaller than the loading gauge here in the US. So that's why I wasn't sure.
@@waycoolscootaloo freight liner is UK so these locos did come here to UK
@@benconway9010 Cool!
EWS was a company originally owned by Wisconsin Central, bought by CN, then sold to DB (now known unsurprisingly as DB Cargo)
Nice Capture hope too see these in liverpool when they dock.
Cheers Neil.
Thank you!
I'll have to keep an eye out on youtube and other venues on the web. I'd love to see videos of these in action sometime after they're delivered
--David
That is the coolest thing!
Great video.
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Why these British locos are putting on the standard gauge flatcars ?
Nice catch
Thank you very much!
--David
Epic vid
Nice
The UK loading gauge is so small! :-)
So's the United Kingdom in comparison to the US !
Richard Holladay It has nothing to do with the country size to be honest. Switzerland IS small, Hungary IS small, Belgium IS small, yet these countries have one of the most "generous" loading gauges. There is a reason behind the UK loading gauge is small, but it is not simply because it is a small country, It is not even actually that small.
Zsolt Monostori The 'Loading Gauge' is the maximum size for rolling stock to allow clearance under bridges and between tracks, especially on corners. It was established quite early on that the maximum width allowable for high speed running was in the region of 2.5 times the distance between the rails, on narrow gauge lines this is often exceeded but speeds tend to be slower. The British loading gauge reflects the basic motivation of the original railway builders, namely to shift coal and ores in bulk from place to place. In the UK the standard clearance was therefore defined with relatively small wagons in mind. To refer to 'the' loading gauge is however misleading as it is only since the advent of British Railways that a national standard has been defined, and this cannot easily be applied to older lines built with smaller clearances.
Zsolt Monostori not small, they are pretty big, those class 70s can pull a few of those american trains on wagon platforms
I blame tunnels for that one
Got to tell you chaps, any fires on the present 70's arnt caused by the turbo's.
Wat they caused by then?
Nice one. It will be interesting too see what the boxes on the side of the loco are for. My be cooling the engine?
Yes, they are additional coolers.
A train pulling a train
Excuse me
PRODUCTIONS
Wait colas in america?
Strange to see new locomotives with those manual couplings and buffers how old and dangerous so British
yeah so 'dangerous' the Brits run the safest railway in Europe and way safer than the USA or Canada .... In Britain they care for people's lives.
It looks like I’m a little late to the party but nice catch! Who makes those? We should just export a few sd70 units there
I think maybe EMD but idk
They are GE mate. Brilliant trains.
Oh sorry. I’m not good with British trains so I was just guessing
@@steelcityrailfan4808 we got plenty of EMDs here tho. Class 66s are all over the place.
That’s cool. EMD is my favorite. How about yours?
Great stuff, but for the life of me why didn't they just pull the 70's on the track?
Thanks! I was wondering the same thing, and I can only speculate but I wonder if it's because of the couplings. I guess for the company it's easier to set them on flats instead of using the special idler cars with knuckle couplers on one end and buffers on the other. That way they don't need to pay for them [the special cars] to be sent back? Not certain, but it's my best guess.
--David
Richard. Thanks for sending me this link
They probably also fail to meet US safety rules because they've been designed to meet British ones.
Not only the couplers are not compatible, but European railways use also a diferent profile for the wheel treads to be turned on, and the brake hose connectors may also differ.
I know of the wheel tread because when the Ontario Northern Northlander DE-4 was shipped back to the Netherlands, where it originaly came from, the wheel treads had to be returned to NS (Nederlandse Spoorwegen, yes, also NS) profile on a wheel lathe prior to shipment, for the last miles into the harbour in Canada a special permission had to be granted and a top speed of 10mph was permitted, this is because rail geometry, especialy points are different from Europe, and with the wrong profile the chance of derailing the loco's is real.
For all these reasons it's easier, faster and safer to put them on flats, the far more generous loading gauge in the US easily fascilitates this.
+dieselmupke How come when the Class 66's were leaving Canada for Britain and Europe they just put them on the track if a different wheel profile was required? Also when British steam locomotives such as the Flying Scotsman and Duchess of Hamilton they didn't have to have their wheel profiles changed?
30 years ago we had thousands of British built loco running on our railways today we import none built since the late 80s.
Train on a train.
Excellent video! cant wait for these to arrive in the UK, i love class 70s. Check out my channel for more footage of them working trains for Freightliner
Thank you! I'm happy to share; glad to see others out there enjoying getting a, "sneak peak" at what to expect.
And will do!
--David
you must be the only one who loves them
Why does America have SO MUCH freight?
Because it's a large country.
That would make sense
+TomCrippsTrains Also due to the size of the place it makes more sense for people to fly rather than use Amtrak as it's faster, thus rail is mainly used for freight rather than passenger purposes.
Canadian locos
Not sure what you mean by that, but from an article about the Class 70:
"In November 2013, Colas Rail announced it had agreed a deal to procure 10 Class 70 locomotives, with new builds to be assembled at in Erie, Pennsylvania for entry into service in 2014; the order included the Turkish built demonstrator 70099, renumbered as 70801, and the remainder of Freightliner's original order option of 30 locos. Colas's locomotives have been allotted numbers in the 708xx range. 70802-70805 had already been constructed at the time of the order and are due to be shipped to the UK in January 2014, with the rest to be assembled and delivered later the same year."
@@David441330ijn did you ever see the damaged 70 with its back broken after the ship crane dropped it that returned back to your country?
The worst colour scheme to ever grace our uk rails until Freightliner got bought out by an American company who didn't care about the history of the company and decided an awful burnt orange and crap logo was the way to replace the iconic green and yellow 😢😢
Try Wessex Trains pink. That was an eyesore 😂
@@al66class59 I was trying to forget that 😂
Proves a point though 🤪😂
*runs away*
British steam locos wr weard looking there diesels are just as bad
Michelle Roberts british steam locos are hamson and smart, better looking than american ones, the dont have bulky pipes sticking out everywhere, pls those class 70 diesels are american, and designed by america.
shut up troll, Britain invented the steam locomotive and developed railways that everyone including America uses, and learn how to spell weird.
Are steam locos are way better looking than your shit fucking any day
Interesing comparison with the height of the 70s on wagons and still appearing to be the same height as the US loco..
simonp1970 they are a little bit higher
Nice