"One can't believe impossible things!" "I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast!" - Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass "Suppose we HAVE only dreamed, or made up all those things [...] Then all I can say is that, in that case, the made-up things seem a good deal more important than the real ones." - C.S. Lewis, The Silver Chair "It's very much like your trying to reach Infinity. You know it's there, but you just don't know where - but just because you can never reach it doesn't mean it's not worth looking for." - Norton Juster, The Phantom Tollbooth. "Some things that are invisible and untouchable can nevertheless be seen and felt." - Michael Chabon, Summerland
I'm not saying God. Or gods, or anything religious. I'm talking about things like Hope, Justice, Kindness, Honor. If you don't believe in those things, why live?
@@youropa6953 You are correct. We need them to exist. We want them to exist. And they are just ideas. Which no real substance. But we will them to be real.
@@darkcylander Because those things are not real. That's nihililsm. But the proper form of nihilism where once you recognize nothing exists that means existence is yours to do with what you make it. So make it good.
@@MrJustonemorevoice he says that social concepts like "justice, mercy and duty" don't exist. he doesn't say that nothing exists. and in your last sentence you mention "make it good". if nothing exists then there is nothing to make good. in fact there is no good. and there is no me to make anything. what your saying contradicts itself.
I honestly think whoever was the actor for I think this Grim Reaper did a fine job. They sound like a caring kind being of death, not a scary evil creature to be hated and scorned. I so prefer it when they make death mythological creatures more kind, thoughtful, caring, compassionate, and loving, than just "aaaaaahhhh scary death creature it's so evil run for your livesssss!!!!", it's just so cliched. So I prefer this type of take on mythological ferriers of death. It's unique and not picking low hanging fruit. Also in most mythologies those who are in charge of death or the ferriers of death are more kind and sympathetic then those who are supposedly good powerful gods who tend to be more evil than what is supposedly supposed to be the evil ones. I also think it doesn't feed into the natural fear of an after life or the natural part of the human experience which is death. There is nothing wrong with being afraid of death, the unknown can be terrifying, except if you're a Christian, the unknown is naturally scary, i just don't think people should be terrified of it. I'm talking about peaceful death not tragic ones,hi can understand the fear there. But naturally dying. I don't think people should be so concerned or scared, unless they don't know where they are going. I for one, know where I will be going one day, I hope others do too.☺️💖
The made for tv-movie "Hogfarther", it is based on the Discworld novel by the same name, written be Terry Pratchett (only adding the last part because its some brilliant books and I only recommend them)
Can someone elaborate on the last quote? Is he saying that we need to believe in something that isnt true to make it become true? Of is he saying we need to believe in something that isnt true in order to become ourselves?
You have to see it in context of the discworld universe, it is not ruled by law of physics but narrative. The story happens because of the story. In real world terms there is a lot of things humans do that are important to humans but have no physical relevance. Terry Pratchett was always about the romantic way to see the world and have more fun that way. He got knighted so he went out, digging up an meteroit to make himself an sword and then complain that english culture is going to the shitters because, he as knight is not allowed to wear his sword in public! So what always is first with ethics they are hard to nail down, do not kill but it is ok to kill someone who kills others. So ethics are more an direction, they are not defined, you can not make the total and all including definition of ethics, but they are incredible important for humans to exist together, if we just used strict rules there would not be the sun but just a flaming ball of gas at the sky. Humans need chaos and romantic ideas or they would be biological machines, they need this "lies" to be humans and creative.
The more people believe in something the more it becomes real...you have to understand the carbon atom12 and reality itself to fully understand how it works...its a holographic 3rd dimension
actually justice, mercy and duty do exist, not in the form a individual molecules and atoms, but as a combination of many through the form of mass psychology which can be broken down into biology, and that is broken down into molecules and atoms. so yes, if you broke down the universe in that way justice, mercy and duty can be found.
The last sentence hits hard
"You must believe in things that aren't true, how else can they become?"
GNU Terry Pratchett
"One can't believe impossible things!" "I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast!" - Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass
"Suppose we HAVE only dreamed, or made up all those things [...] Then all I can say is that, in that case, the made-up things seem a good deal more important than the real ones." - C.S. Lewis, The Silver Chair
"It's very much like your trying to reach Infinity. You know it's there, but you just don't know where - but just because you can never reach it doesn't mean it's not worth looking for." - Norton Juster, The Phantom Tollbooth.
"Some things that are invisible and untouchable can nevertheless be seen and felt." - Michael Chabon, Summerland
existentialism at its finest?
I listen to this everyday. This keeps giving me hope.
This shit really got me
Probably some of the most insightful shit ever said.
I literally started to cry. What's the point in living if you don't believe?
too see the wonders of the universe.
Yes, there is a neaderthallic naivety present to those who refuse anything metaphysical
I'm not saying God. Or gods, or anything religious. I'm talking about things like Hope, Justice, Kindness, Honor. If you don't believe in those things, why live?
@@camerakitty8167 these things have no atoms, yet they still exist.
@@youropa6953 You are correct. We need them to exist. We want them to exist. And they are just ideas. Which no real substance. But we will them to be real.
You see, there are two kinds of nihilism
(Full of angst) Nothing matters... >:(
(Full of wonder) Nothing matters! :D
he never said anything about how nothing matters. this is a conversation about the importance of people needing to believe in things.
@@darkcylander Because those things are not real. That's nihililsm.
But the proper form of nihilism where once you recognize nothing exists that means existence is yours to do with what you make it. So make it good.
@@MrJustonemorevoice he says that social concepts like "justice, mercy and duty" don't exist. he doesn't say that nothing exists. and in your last sentence you mention "make it good". if nothing exists then there is nothing to make good. in fact there is no good. and there is no me to make anything. what your saying contradicts itself.
@@darkcylander I know.
Aint it cool?
Enjoy the ride buddy boy, you got 100 years max.
@@MrJustonemorevoice aint what cool? the fact that what you said contradicts itself? did you not read what I said?
I have never heard something so true.. Humans are a very creative species, making many things, without that it would be boring.
Ironically humans also invented boredom!
@@tristanmagnus1964 Well, that's more of an emotion but sadly I guess.
@@N3k0Y0m1take the animal kingdom and sieve it through the finest sieve. You show me an atom of apathy, a molecule of modicum.
@@tristanmagnus1964 I don't think there's a single social mammal or bird that doesn't get bored
I can’t help but think that Christopher Lee could have delivered this line with a lot more force, shame that he couldn’t be here for that.
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Not everything needs to be delivered with force.
I honestly think whoever was the actor for I think this Grim Reaper did a fine job. They sound like a caring kind being of death, not a scary evil creature to be hated and scorned. I so prefer it when they make death mythological creatures more kind, thoughtful, caring, compassionate, and loving, than just "aaaaaahhhh scary death creature it's so evil run for your livesssss!!!!", it's just so cliched. So I prefer this type of take on mythological ferriers of death. It's unique and not picking low hanging fruit. Also in most mythologies those who are in charge of death or the ferriers of death are more kind and sympathetic then those who are supposedly good powerful gods who tend to be more evil than what is supposedly supposed to be the evil ones. I also think it doesn't feed into the natural fear of an after life or the natural part of the human experience which is death. There is nothing wrong with being afraid of death, the unknown can be terrifying, except if you're a Christian, the unknown is naturally scary, i just don't think people should be terrified of it. I'm talking about peaceful death not tragic ones,hi can understand the fear there. But naturally dying. I don't think people should be so concerned or scared, unless they don't know where they are going. I for one, know where I will be going one day, I hope others do too.☺️💖
I must have watched hog Father half asleep at some point in my life because i know this line but I've never seen the scene
Very nice voice.
Shoutout to Commy for sending me here
A lie of it's own.
Yeah just cried.
What movie / series is this from?
The made for tv-movie "Hogfarther", it is based on the Discworld novel by the same name, written be Terry Pratchett (only adding the last part because its some brilliant books and I only recommend them)
Can someone elaborate on the last quote? Is he saying that we need to believe in something that isnt true to make it become true? Of is he saying we need to believe in something that isnt true in order to become ourselves?
You have to see it in context of the discworld universe, it is not ruled by law of physics but narrative.
The story happens because of the story.
In real world terms there is a lot of things humans do that are important to humans but have no physical relevance.
Terry Pratchett was always about the romantic way to see the world and have more fun that way.
He got knighted so he went out, digging up an meteroit to make himself an sword and then complain that english culture is going to the shitters because, he as knight is not allowed to wear his sword in public!
So what always is first with ethics they are hard to nail down, do not kill but it is ok to kill someone who kills others.
So ethics are more an direction, they are not defined, you can not make the total and all including definition of ethics, but they are incredible important for humans to exist together, if we just used strict rules there would not be the sun but just a flaming ball of gas at the sky.
Humans need chaos and romantic ideas or they would be biological machines, they need this "lies" to be humans and creative.
if the world is only what you make of it, then make it good.
can someone explain this to me? :)
What exists today was once unimaginable...
+Absoloootly Thanks :)
we manifest our own realities to each other...what sometimes become real...
The more people believe in something the more it becomes real...you have to understand the carbon atom12 and reality itself to fully understand how it works...its a holographic 3rd dimension
Quantum Mechanics is a good place to start...
What's the name of this movie??
Hogfather. It's a two-part miniseries that originally aired on BBC TV.
Existence is pain
There's just no pleasing you people...
That's why it's wonderful and hilarious.
@@federerlkonig330 That's why we *call* it wonderful and hilarious.
emo
Existence is also pleasure, joy, happiness as well as despair, melancholy, and dullness, it can and is many things, often all at once.
actually justice, mercy and duty do exist, not in the form a individual molecules and atoms, but as a combination of many through the form of mass psychology which can be broken down into biology, and that is broken down into molecules and atoms. so yes, if you broke down the universe in that way justice, mercy and duty can be found.
The point being made is they are human invention. There is none of that with out a mind like humans animals do not use this system
@@cloudsstar psychology isn't a human invention, it's a product of evolution.
@@darkcylander why should you slave for you biology?
As Death said, how else can they become?
What is the name of this movie ?
The Hogfather
what's the name of this movie?