Beautiful footage! This is one of the best videos, I've ever seen of 261! I think you chose the best spots to film the train from, to get the best views of it and the best Doppler effects! Great job!
Nice video! I was lucky enough to ride on some of the Friends of the 261 cars two years ago from Emeryville to Minneapolis. Spent the majority of the daylight hours on the back platform of the Lambert's Point. Amazing!
Do they let the people hang out the doors on #261 excursions on BNSF? NS has a closed window policy, no open windows or open vestibules permitted. That kind of sucks, because you can't hear the chuff and whistle very well from your coach seat next to a pane of glass. But, it's better than no steam at all on NS. I'm riding behind #611 on June 4 in Virginia for the very first time. I never rode any of the NS 1982-1994 excursions. I rode behind #765 twice in PA last year and a few years ago.
I wonder then why NS is so tight with their rules and do not allow any open windows or doors except for the train crew and in the tool cars where the crew commonly have the doors open with protective gates. The Fort Wayne tool car also has little windows that can be opened, as well as a red sliding door with a black door with three openings on the top behind it. Most tourist railroads have open window coaches and open observation/sightseeing cars. NS used to allow open windows in the old steam program through 1994 but banned the use of older heavyweight coaches after the 611 derailment in May 1986. The Dover Harbor is one exception, as it has been upgraded to Amtrak standards. It has been on some of the recent NS steam excursions behind 765 and now 611.
+Paul Hebert when 261 was restored in 2008-2013, they restored it to it's "as delivered" appearance, which, when 261 was built, did not include the MARs light, however, the Friends of the 261 still have the mars light and can easily install it when they choose (bolt on and attach wiring).
+Keon's Trains It really sucks that CP won't allow them to run down the Mississippi anymore now that Hunter Harrison is CEO, he destroyed the entire CP steam program. And I suppose BNSF won't let them run down the Mississippi because they have been having trouble with too much traffic. But the Hinckley sub is still a pretty line to run down in the fall, the only problem is that I'm too far away to see it :( Me and my dad used to chase it up and down the river every year, so its just sad that we're able to do it like we used to.
ExcessMean the folks at 261 are trying very hard to get CP to let them run again, maybe soon after Harrison's time at CP is over. CN also operates in the area, and could allow steam perhaps if convinced enough. but for now 261 is unfortunately limited
Blake Trafford - Mile Post Productions Not so much allergic is it is financially and insurance related, steam makes no money, never has, and the insurance risk is not what CN, CP or even NS now (they allow steam but don't sponsor it) want to take in
+Conscript ANRSSAWS 611 was chartered and insured by Norfolk Southern, 261 is insured by Amtrak (hence Amtrak's locomotive, also used for passenger car electricity). Also, 611's debut was extremely popular, hence more passenger cars, 261 is not as well known as 611.
@@NorthlandTrains yes, plus Norfolk and Western 611 is a more powerful Northern, having 80,000 pounds of tractive effort, while Milwaukee Road 261 has just over 62,000 pounds of tractive effort. This means 611 can pull more tonnage than 261. However, 261 is still powerful because it operated on the New River Train in the 90s, and in that time, they had steam locomotives pull trains with 25 cars or more with no diesel assistance. 261 took this challenge and conquered it. In my opinion, Milwaukee Road 261 is the most underrated Steam Locomotive in the U.S
Beautiful footage! This is one of the best videos, I've ever seen of 261! I think you chose the best spots to film the train from, to get the best views of it and the best Doppler effects! Great job!
Nice video! I was lucky enough to ride on some of the Friends of the 261 cars two years ago from Emeryville to Minneapolis. Spent the majority of the daylight hours on the back platform of the Lambert's Point. Amazing!
Great sound , great train, great video
thank you
Very nice video of 261. Thanks.
I appreciate the kind words, thank you.
Great vid Keon!, added to my steam playlist
+RailfanFuzz Thank you! glad you liked it!
Two days before my birthday, DANG IT
Isanti Minnesota whistle shot is my favourite part of this video.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 1:03
Northbound or Southbound?
I saw the title and it’s northbound LOL !!!
I was on this one! first orange car. it also goes right past my house in Sandstone :)
Well done, great coverage!!
Thank you!
did BNSF remove steam excursions from their line? I heard they might.
grettagrids no, that rumor was false
Keon's Trains
so MWR 261 will still go through sandstone then?
grettagrids not this year, although it did in June.
No word on the next BNSF run for 261, she just ran last weekend on the BNSF and TC&W
Nice video Keon!!
+Nathan Train (Moosetick Railfan Films) Thank you!
if they're gonna use a damn diesel on every steam hauled train these days they should at least use an F7 or some other vintage diesel
+TheBrantfordRailfan except Amtrak diesels produce the proper voltage of electricity for the passenger cars, plus, the trips are insured by Amtrak
Keon's Trains
makes sense, it does kinda take away from the historical appeal of it though...
TheBrantfordRailfan that's true, at least they had a heritage unit that was somewhat historically accurate
When did they get that New Whistle again I forget
How about The Hiawatha f7 Class Hudson.
So are the diesels ever used as helpers, is there someone in the cab at all times? If so how do they synchronize throttles?
They do help on big hills going up and for dynamics coming down, there are people in the cab, though I believe that 261 has MU compatibility.
Do they let the people hang out the doors on #261 excursions on BNSF? NS has a closed window policy, no open windows or open vestibules permitted. That kind of sucks, because you can't hear the chuff and whistle very well from your coach seat next to a pane of glass. But, it's better than no steam at all on NS. I'm riding behind #611 on June 4 in Virginia for the very first time. I never rode any of the NS 1982-1994 excursions. I rode behind #765 twice in PA last year and a few years ago.
+Rob Krasinski open vestibules are allowed, as well as open observation cars
I wonder then why NS is so tight with their rules and do not allow any open windows or doors except for the train crew and in the tool cars where the crew commonly have the doors open with protective gates. The Fort Wayne tool car also has little windows that can be opened, as well as a red sliding door with a black door with three openings on the top behind it. Most tourist railroads have open window coaches and open observation/sightseeing cars. NS used to allow open windows in the old steam program through 1994 but banned the use of older heavyweight coaches after the 611 derailment in May 1986.
The Dover Harbor is one exception, as it has been upgraded to Amtrak standards. It has been on some of the recent NS steam excursions behind 765 and now 611.
Better camera angle would be big noise build up from behind (off camera) then train rushes away from camera.
This is disgraceful getting push from amtrak
I saw your report on it on HeritageUnits.com
+train gamer yep! I tried to keep it as updated as possible
Keon's Trains
And I'm Jealous! Steam Locos barely come through WI!
+train gamer You've got Soo Line 1003 in Hartford, WI and of course 261 on northbound trips to Duluth/Superior
Keon's Trains
I'm in the southeast corner of WI, right next door to a line that gets at least 1 heritage unit per year. ON AVERAGE! INSANE!
train gamer do you get a lot of older power, say standard cab EMD?
Did you ever see DIB productions?
Yes, they buzzed me with the drone in Isanti
@@NorthlandTrains 😂
That’s awesome
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What happened to the red mars light?
+Paul Hebert when 261 was restored in 2008-2013, they restored it to it's "as delivered" appearance, which, when 261 was built, did not include the MARs light, however, the Friends of the 261 still have the mars light and can easily install it when they choose (bolt on and attach wiring).
Thanks for the info. She looks great either way. :)
Paul Hebert can't disagree with that!
Is that running on bnsf tracks ?
+NSNW11 Yes, BNSF is the only Class 1 that allows steam excursions in the area.
+Keon's Trains It really sucks that CP won't allow them to run down the Mississippi anymore now that Hunter Harrison is CEO, he destroyed the entire CP steam program. And I suppose BNSF won't let them run down the Mississippi because they have been having trouble with too much traffic. But the Hinckley sub is still a pretty line to run down in the fall, the only problem is that I'm too far away to see it :( Me and my dad used to chase it up and down the river every year, so its just sad that we're able to do it like we used to.
ExcessMean the folks at 261 are trying very hard to get CP to let them run again, maybe soon after Harrison's time at CP is over. CN also operates in the area, and could allow steam perhaps if convinced enough. but for now 261 is unfortunately limited
+Keon's Trains CN and CP are allergic to steam engines.
Blake Trafford - Mile Post Productions Not so much allergic is it is financially and insurance related, steam makes no money, never has, and the insurance risk is not what CN, CP or even NS now (they allow steam but don't sponsor it) want to take in
611 steam locomotive pulled cars more than 261 steam locomotive and 611 without diesel helper but 261 took diesel locomotive, Why?
+Conscript ANRSSAWS 611 was chartered and insured by Norfolk Southern, 261 is insured by Amtrak (hence Amtrak's locomotive, also used for passenger car electricity). Also, 611's debut was extremely popular, hence more passenger cars, 261 is not as well known as 611.
@@NorthlandTrains yes, plus Norfolk and Western 611 is a more powerful Northern, having 80,000 pounds of tractive effort, while Milwaukee Road 261 has just over 62,000 pounds of tractive effort. This means 611 can pull more tonnage than 261. However, 261 is still powerful because it operated on the New River Train in the 90s, and in that time, they had steam locomotives pull trains with 25 cars or more with no diesel assistance. 261 took this challenge and conquered it. In my opinion, Milwaukee Road 261 is the most underrated Steam Locomotive in the U.S