1" / 2" Spacers, Pros VS Cons and why I need them!
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TO BE CLEAR: the issues and frustration I am having with some of my mods really come down to getting the wrong offset for the rims. That is what caused many of my issues and why I am installing spacers. Thanks for watching, let's talk about it!
So did you end up keeping the rims or getting more offset rims? I’m getting nators for my xmr also and I think I’m going to run my stock rims, 2019 xmr 1000 outty. I’m hoping to clear with some trimming on rear. Any input? Thanks bud, love the videos!
@@maxcasey6262 I ended up keep this setup all last season. This season i switched to a 0mm offset rim and 8.5 wide motohavocs. If you do 0mm or stock rims with 8 inch wide tires you'll be fine. Height is another issue.
Man I’m having a similar issue...I have a 2020 renegade xmr 570. I put on 14/7 inch 5+2 offset/system 3 wheels & 29.5/8/14 Assassinators all around.
Well..now my front ended up a bit wider than the rear.
Well, I thought I measured right and ordered one inch spacers for the rear...yeah that didn’t work haha, to wide.
So I picked my brain, and used a measuring tape and measured straight from the center H frame “protected by the skids” because it’s the same width from front to rear; from the H frame through the wheel “to the outside of the wheel”, and I have exactly A measly 1/4 inch more of width in the front than I do the rear...
What the hell do I do??? Haha
Should I really worry about that??
Did you have to put longer studs on, for the 2 inch spacers, because i went to go put mine on yesterday and i can only get the bolt on about 3 or 4 turns, not very tight so i was wondering how far are your bolts on in the spacer?
Had to put 2 inch spacers on the front n 1.5. On the back for my outlander max xt. Has a 2 inch lift. Hate them lol waiting for my footwells that claim to clear 34s without a lift. So we shall see. I'm running 32-8-14 assassinators.
We put spacers on my wife's arctic cat mudpro. She loves how stable it made the 4 wheeler, but the problem is that she is now closer to the sxs wheel base.she is 54" width. The sxs ruts are deeper due to the bigger tires and lifts. So with her stock clearance of 14" isn't enough and she will get stuck when everyone doesn't. It was way better when she was at stock width of 50". So now if we go mudding we take them off, rock climbing we put them on. Real pain,but I do it for her. 😆
Happy wife, happy life haha
I went straight to the 2" spacers on my 2019 Outlander 1000 xmr with the stock incripted 30s" and they rub the can-am oem aluminum foot skids so I took them off. I can't decide weather to cut them back or get a 4" portal lift. Even if I got a set off offset wheels I think it would just rub worse. Me personally I love the look and feel with the 2"spacers and the rubbing on the floor skids is the only problem I've had so far.
I’m running 2” Bronco ATV spacers on my 2017 1000 XT-P with the factory beadlock wheels. They made the machine much more stable and it’s only 1/2” wider then my brothers exact same machine with aftermarket wheels.
Plenty of ways to skin a cat ahah. I prefer the offset rims. Less to worry about.
I put 2" spacers on my 2013 can am commander xt 800 about 4 years ago and I have yet to have any issues and I ride the trails alot.
To be fair those tires will do more wear and tear to your front end parts than those spacers ever will
I'll be getting some msa 14" wheels with the same tires you have what back spacing you think i should get when i order them. Thanks you for your videos
I usually run 1” spacers on every bike I’ve had weather I needed to or not they really don’t cause any issues. Gives er a nice stance.
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So I have a question... I have a 2018 Outlander 650 XMR fully stock, but I feel that the atv always seems to want to flip over in every little turn I make, are spacers recommended to increase the center of gravity of my atv or what can I do... any suggestions?
Thanks for the info, never seen those type of tyres, what are they used for ??
Keep the technical stuff coming though I like it
How much thread did you have with the 1 inch spacers? I bought some for my can am and seems theres not much thread to hold on the spacers on
Hi..I'm having a lot of trouble taking the tippy out of my cforce 500s 2022....I've got a 1.5 perfex lift and 1.5 spacers all round and I switched up to 26 maxiss Zillas all round 11 on the back 9 on the front.I'm running 5psi all round and finally my rear shocks are set to the lowest setting and front 1 up from the bottom....any suggestions would be appreciated
Just wondering how much more stress is it on the a arms versus 1 inch or 2 inch.
Did you sort out the axle boots rubbing on the a arms
Did they sort out the steering box bracket issue?
I used them in the past and the work great but i'd try to use them to keep new rims to the same overall with as stock unless you want wider. There are a lot of pros and con but you have to decide what you are going for.
Exactly Frank. My preference in the end will be to get rid of them in favor of another rim.
@@MainvilleATV Probably a good call
Good informative video! Only other fixes to get rid of spacers would be different offset rims or maybe Portals?
Yes exactly! Thanks for watching!
Hey. Just a question for you. Do the 1 inch spacers think enough to cover the studs completely without having to trim the wheel studs on the hub itself ??
how much does it weight a 2inch aluminium spacer, and will that affect on speed and power of the machine..
I run spacers on my bike, and I haven't had any issues with my bearings or worries that my tire's going to come flying off. I've been using them for the past year and a half so far so good *knock on wood* I didn't even need to run spacers but I wanted a wider stance to help with getting through the deep rutted mud holes.
Let's hope these work for you till you get a larger back spaced rim cheers!
You're on 30s with fender snorkels right? Did they hit your snorkels at all?
@@MainvilleATV You are correct I have the snorkels running inside the fender well with the 30's. I wasn't rubbing before the spacers. But I also have aftermarket rims as well with enough back spacing so they don't rub anywhere.
Are your 29.5 tires the same width on all four??
Nice bike and I’m also from Ontario and I just want to say is I subscribed and love your channel 👍🏼
Thanks buddy!
Great video brother i enjoyed it very much i just put some new rims and spacers on my bike and my dad was telling about the spacers i hope everything goes smoothly the rest of the way the bike looks great and the wife's Kodiak is looking sick
Thanks buddy. I learnt the hard way but now I can help others.
@@MainvilleATV that's what it's all about buddy i have seen the spacers make the holes on the rim bigger and made them oval would that be from not retorque them after riding
@@donaldwilliams5448 Thats likely caused by an imbalanced or not centered spacer, but could be not re-torquing too.
@@MainvilleATV thank you bud i will be looking forward to seeing what you guys are up to i really enjoy watching the channel
Iv had spacers on my renegade when I had it I was like you I didn’t like the aluminum showing so I primed them with a spray B.I.N and then used a flat black high heat they held up really well I did my nuts the same after 2 yers they still were very few chips gone.
Oh right on! I should have it replaced reasonably quick so theres no point but good idea!
i had to grip the threads with a rag and tighten those bolts so be sure there screwed down all the way tightly !
So with the extra 2" a side, is your total width going to be an issue? 50" trail gates, existing trail ruts or trying to snake between trees. Bike is looking great and big!!! Cheers 🇨🇦
Oh no. Not at all. Its 52 Inches now, still well in the ball park. All gates in my county and Ontario for the most part are much wider especially due to side by sides now. Thanks buddy! Much more to come!
Awesome man I'm from ontario also.. wicked machine you got there
Right on thanks for watching bud
I have 2018 outlander 1000 max xt-p, at first i went with 2" spacer in the front and 1,5" in the rear with stock beadlock to get wider stance but didnt really like how it made the suspension feel very saggy. So I bought a set of 8,5" wide XMR rims with 10" wide 30s cryptids. Getting little rub on floorboard and that inner front plastic when turning. I thinking about getting a set of spring spacers from rubberdowncustoms to get a little lift and hopefully clear those issues. Any thoughts on springspacers if they worth a shot?
Never used the spacers buddy, sorry. They should work out I would imagine!
The spring spacer will greatly take away from the expensive fox shocks. They make a 2” bracket lift for your bike. It is a pain to install though.
Plus t you have bought the rims with another offset?
I been running spacers for years on my atv and truck and never had any problems
Do you notice the steering on rocky declines when riding the atv with wheel spacers that it is harder to turn the handlebars?
Oh also where did ya get these dirty life? I usually get mine from amazon but sometimes the wheel don’t always fit
Yes.
Hello can you tell me how tight you put the nuts back on like pounds per square inch like 50 or 60 something like that man just asking to be safe
Ordered some 4 1/37 wheel spacers for my renegade xmr from super atv and they send me 4 1/36.
Have you had any problems yet with those spacers?
i made a shockingly similar mistake last month when i bought wheels and tires for my sportsman haha
I'm running 2" spacers on my renegade . love the look but just did all 4 bearings also lol
Yeah haha. The way she goes.
Dustin S bearing? Do wheel spacers cause excessive wheel bearing wear? I am looking in to buying some wheel spacers and need help understanding the downsides to them.
Jeff Job depending on the wheel offset, yes.
Jeff Job normally you want the hub the sit in the center of the rim. That would be the perfect offset for wheel bearing life and overall ride comfort.
10:21 must be bc of those ridiculous tires 😆
You need to learn the difference between hub centric and stud centric. In this case the tapered area of the spacer and nut center the product to the hub.
If your going to space it might as go big better stance and stability!
Can you send a link to the spacers you used?
Literally can't remember, dirtylife.ca told me which to buy. Maybe ask them?
I'm buy new 4/115 with 4/110 in one and it be in alba racing brand its most toughest wheel spacers ever get and so as tusk wheel wheels
I'm curious why spacers are designed the way they are, what with all the extra holes and lugs to attach spacer to hub, then wheel to spacer. Why not just have spacers with simple straight through holes, and use a set of appropriately longer lugs, so that the lug goes all the way through wheel spacer and hub. This would simplify their manufacture, and could somewhat solve the torqueing difficulties too.
where can I buy it?
www.dirtylife.ca my friend!
I gove him credit for holding that heavy spacers for most of the video without complaining
I guess if you need them, on an ATV it's not as bad as a car or truck. In the long run, the offset weight can cause extra wear on ball joints and wheel bearings, but I'm sure something else will break before those! LOL ;) As along as you're not runnin motocross track races, you'll be just fine even with the 2" spacers! LOL Awesome vid, bud!
You got it, but I'm already looking at rims to solve it. Ahah thanks for watching
There is no difference in terms of using spacers vs aftermarket offset rims..... unless one of the options brings the wheel out further than the other option. Going outwards 2” per wheel/tire is the exact same stress wether it’s on an offset rim or by using a spacer.
Agreed in that sense. Although you run the risk of improperly balance cheap materials, poor workmanship, possible torque issues on twice the studs etc. Theres more issues with them when you could just get the rim. Thanks for watching!
Mainville ATV and Outdoors true.... all spacers are not created equal and the correct offset wheels will always be optimal however, a quality machined spacer is also good and does not add additional stress to the wheel bearings..... unless they are pushing the wheels out further than the wheels. The spacers I bought also came with metric 12.9 grade lugs.... better than an imperial grade 8 (sold with the Highlifter spacers). Still a good option for guys that don’t want to spend extra on rims or are happy with their factory wheels, as I am.
and those huge tires arent going to put stress on the bearings and tie rods
I’m so concerned about that cv boot. Lol
Yeah had a feeling you pooched yourself with the 10 wide and rim swap, And yes I would think the wife will need a offset rim as well for 10 wide's up front. Never ends eh.
Yeah, I didnt know there were different version of the beadlock rim. If got the same as yours with more offset I would have been good to go or closer to it. Cass has snorkels in her fender so we will find that out too. It's all a learning curve. Now I can help others not do what I did haha.
No need for offset rim on the Kodiak 700 . I'm running 12" wide on all 4 with stock rims.Snorkels in her fender may be another story.
@@crazyflyboy30 yeah, we just got it all on. Everything fits
Mccomb mississipp
Murphy's law!
What can go wrong will go wrong. Well said.
So hub centric Is one form of hub centering however those are just like automotive that is called lug centric everything you stated about the Lugnuts making more surface contact was actually incorrect the actual reason is because the Lugnuts actually center the hub on the lug studs
I forgot to mention I have the same can am
I'd be careful using chineese wheel studs. You dont know what kind of metal combinations they used, likely whatever was cheapest. Alot of engineering goes into the compounds and tensile breaking tests are performed for maximum saftey. Are those studs replaceable? If so I'd bang them out and buy a set for a few bucks each from canam
Some guys have way to much time. Buy a f tractor to plow. Take a break go run and have fun! Buy a tractor and problem solved. Seriously I’m glad for ya but I love ridin around it’s a lot of fun🤪‼️
I have watched these last three videos shaking my head and screaming Dear God man u need wheels with the correct offset. Its not rocket science. No spacers needed with proper wheels.
I've explained it several times I understand my mistake. I wasnt aware there are several version of the rims I bought. I completely plan on fixing it. Thanks for commenting buddy!
@@MainvilleATV I wasn't trying to be disrespectful if u thought that. I sometimes come off as an asshole. But I do appreciate your videos. I do wanna know the deal with the a arms and the axle boot rubbing. Maybe I missed the correction on that. I was gonna order them for mine but trying to see what happened with yours first. If you had to jump through hoops think I will try C fAb
@@NastyNate98 all good buddy. Part of the CZcams thing is a bit of heat. Theres another steering limiter you get for different models, just make sure it's the right kit for your bike and you wont have any of the issues I did. Everything else was my choices that caused problems
@@MainvilleATV Thanks man. Appreciate it
@@NastyNate98 hey if I went to get rims I would have to learn all the different stuff or do the same. Thankfully mine came with decent looking rims.
Zero scrub radius is where you want to be in front.../
The 2" looks weaker than the 1 ".
I can definitely see what you're saying, hard to really tell. If I have a wheel pass me on the trail I'll let you know!
Wider is better Pontiac said
Iam not a big fan of some one thats not a big fan of installing and reviewing a product they are not a big fan of mean while using it and not being a fan of!!!! 🤣🤣🤣
dude a trip he says 74 is to much but says he will do 70 smh
You complain too much. Building on a atv is supposed to be fun and you take all the fun out of it
You talk too much. Get to the point. 🤦♂️